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Plazmalord Soban
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Posted - 2006.01.05 02:49:00 -
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IÆm writing this post on behalf of the Knights of the SouthernCross in an effort to draw attention to recent events in the southern region of Omist. I would like to make note that Knights of the SouthernCross are the rightful residents of the region we are fighting over.
Stain Empire had invaded over 7 weeks ago trying to secure the region for them selves and to make the KOS alliance its mining slaves.
We agreed to their Stain EmpireÆs occupation when they first arrived due to the fact that we had just formed and were not ready to deal with the threat. Having dealt with Xenobytes in the SA wars we knew that removing them wouldnÆt come cheap.
We began to find out immediately who our friends were by making formal contacts with ASCN, G alliance, Stain Alliance, MinerÆs with Attitude and Burn Eden. Since none of the factions I just named off had any issues with the corporations of our Alliance we were lead to believe support would be given when it was made available. ASCN being involved in a conflict with G-Alliance made it difficult for ASCN to disperse a fleet to the region to help remove SE.
KOS was told by ASCN to hold off until we can get to you. So we fought SE in a relentless POS war for 7 weeks. We were told by ASCN to stop anchoring more large POSÆs. A tactic supposedly designed to keep SE from anchoring more large POS. Therefore making it easier for ASCN to take down the SE POS structures. KOS complied. We needed help and were told to get it where we could to hold off SE. SO we did so wherever we could. Contacts were made by the efforts of Orgs and most notably Tatzlwurm of Tachyon Combined who brought in Burn Eden to train the majority of the miners and carebear players to fight using their methods.
Smash Alliance was already present and had docking rights under SE and were fighting KOS at the time in small skirmishes. After Tachyon Combined left the scene so did Burn Eden. Any and all alts that have been said to have been in our KOS corporations were removed (over a month ago). And while they were in KOS they were told strictly not to fight ASCN or targets outside our region.
Smash Alliance agreed to stop aggressing on pilots in KOS based upon Burn Edens request. Later talks SMASH was acting as a envoy on KOSÆs behalf to get SE to stop the war and leave the region, a meeting resulting from this lead to further war with SE in which they stated they would destroy us because we resisted their presence.
Now keep in mind that during all these events ASCN was telling KOS delegates ôwe will be coming as soon as we can.ö They were doing so because Stain Alliance has made a deal to help ASCN with the G alliance on the condition ASCN turns and helps KOS fight off SE. No one but Maelstrom alliance, FSA and Smash were willing to help. Billions of isk are still being spent fighting the POS warà KOS being mislead the entire time that help from the ASCN alliance will soon be on the way to help us retake Omist and restore balance to the region.
Here is where it begins to get interestingà
Pilots belonging to ASCN begin to trickle down and plans were being made to come down and remove SE. ASCN killed off SE for about a week KOS is thinking ôgreat! were finally gonna get this war over withö Then after about a week of building up and gathering Strontium and other fuels for the Superpower to have us supply their Dreads which we gladly purchased and brought down logistically to assist our friends in ASCN. Not a problem to us because we have been doing this for 7 weeks.
ASCN then holds a secret meeting with SE without a delegate from KOS to determine our future. What the heck is this about?
KOS is wondering at this point why this is happening because any communication and delegating of KOS position should have had a member of KOS in it. There was none! The deal was made that SE control the regionà. An invading alliance! Which has recently aggressed on ASCN. This is a clear violation of the Southern Treaty that ASCN loves to throw around
ASCNÆs Deal :
Had we forseen this coming, KOS would have not asked for ASCN intervention. We have the resources and the will to keep fighting for our right to exist in the Omist region.
SE must not be allowed to remain in Omist. The Stain empire intend to use Omist as a stepping stone for other Aggressive factions and alliances who can use Omist as a stepping stone into ASCNÆs back door as well construct their Titan. If Omist falls next will come Tennerifis and then Feythabolis. KOS was your chance and is your chance at stability in the region and for all of the south. KOS will not leave Omist.
This is an Official Statement of The Knights of the SouthernCross Plazmalord Soban Head of the KOS Senate.
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Plazmalord Soban
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Posted - 2006.01.05 03:02:00 -
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Here are the mails we got from ASCN's leader in order they were recieved 2006.01.04 05:05
2006.01.04 05:02 2005.12.28 06:22 We are goiing to be taking Z7 over the next couple of days. FYI. POS's & Fuel are being moved as we speak.
-CYVOK-
2006.01.04 05:06
2006.01.04 05:03 2006.01.01 21:16 we need to chat about the future of KOS and Omist.
-CYVOK-
2006.01.04 05:05
2006.01.04 05:03
2006.01.02 23:10 Sorry,
The southern powers have reached a deal with reguard to Omist. Your not going to like it, but thier is still an option for you.
We have made a Deal with SE to control Omist. Nothng will go into effect for another 24 hours but:
1) ASCN will keep the bottom station Z7. 2) SE will end wars against southern allies and adopt out standings 3) Southern allies will set KOS & SMASH to -5 (this has to be verified with all allies yet and we will notify them before we make the change to -5) 4) No NAPS with Northern Alliances.
With reguard to #3, IF KOS agrees to live in the region under SE's leadership your standings will remain positive.
It is the feeling of the south that SE is best suited to holding the region.
see part 2
2006.01.04 05:07
2006.01.04 05:03
2006.01.02 23:12 The reason we made this deal with SE instead of KOS was simple.
KOS is not strong enough to hold the region on its own KOS has several Burn Eden members in it KOS has NAP'd G
I and ASCN have nothng against KOS but we needed to end this squabbling over a region we consider critical to our long term security.
-CYVOK-
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Mavvin
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Posted - 2006.01.05 03:26:00 -
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Wow if what plaz says is right, and i think it is, thats total crap on a crap craker, i been in eve for a short while, i really hope this is not busniess as usuall |
Kamui Shiro
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Posted - 2006.01.05 03:26:00 -
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Heh quite a big problem you guys have there.
Maybe if you ally with G/IRON and the other northern folks, and take on ASCN, etc., you might have a chance. Seeing as how the north kind of likes having a southern vacation territory, it will be good for both of you. KOS gets to keep its territory, while the north gets their nice southern base(who knows they might transfer from the north to the south). Or you can get SA, tribal souls, prime orbital systems, and FIX to help you boot out ASCN.
Aside from the option of allying yourselves with a stronger alliance, you have little chance of going against ASCN and SE combined.
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ManSechs
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Posted - 2006.01.05 03:50:00 -
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cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it. and while your at it "logistically" supply me with popcorn
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2006.01.05 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: ManSechs cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it. and while your at it "logistically" supply me with popcorn
Freighter of popcorn for your long mining nights
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Drakma
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Posted - 2006.01.05 03:57:00 -
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I like pizza.
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FraXy
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Posted - 2006.01.05 03:59:00 -
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I love Drakma. ---------------------------------------- Honor and Serve, 'till u Betray and Die! I betrayed, I died and i joined RKK. I got blessed and re-joined CLS.
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Powdder
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Posted - 2006.01.05 03:59:00 -
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ill probably get bbqed for this. but this is really messed up. and definatly not right
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Niomi Kunst
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:03:00 -
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I love puppies.
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Zeeno
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:11:00 -
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I love <insert something silly here>.
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Philyus
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy I love Drakma.
Drakma eats babies. --------------------
I am easily confused. Leave me alone! |
FraXy
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Philyus
Originally by: FraXy I love Drakma.
Drakma eats babies.
Babies pawn teenagers. ---------------------------------------- Honor and Serve, 'till u Betray and Die! I betrayed, I died and i joined RKK. I got blessed and re-joined CLS.
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Carebearis Starious
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy
Originally by: Philyus
Originally by: FraXy I love Drakma.
Drakma eats babies.
Babies pawn teenagers.
Ninja pawn Pirate.
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Drakma
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Carebearis Starious
Originally by: FraXy
Originally by: Philyus
Originally by: FraXy I love Drakma.
Drakma eats babies.
Babies pawn teenagers.
Ninja pawn Pirate.
Pirates go "YARR!" and stuff.
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Therem Harth
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mavvin Wow if what plaz says is right, and i think it is, thats total crap on a crap craker, i been in eve for a short while, i really hope this is not busniess as usuall
If you are dealing with ASCN, it is.
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Tutty Fruity
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Drakma
Originally by: Carebearis Starious
Originally by: FraXy
Originally by: Philyus
Originally by: FraXy I love Drakma.
Drakma eats babies.
Babies pawn teenagers.
Ninja pawn Pirate.
Pirates go "YARR!" and stuff.
Wanna touch my stuff and junk?
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c0rn1
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: c0rn1 on 05/01/2006 04:22:29 I'd ask the flamers please to leave it be. This post is meant as a serious report, not a flamestarter.
Thank you in advance
P.S.: Could some moderator please clean this thread of flames? thank you x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
Life's a waste of time ...
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FraXy
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tutty Fruity
Originally by: Drakma
Originally by: Carebearis Starious
Originally by: FraXy
Originally by: Philyus
Originally by: FraXy I love Drakma.
Drakma eats babies.
Babies pawn teenagers.
Ninja pawn Pirate.
Pirates go "YARR!" and stuff.
Wanna touch my stuff and junk?
Junk is what Minmatarr ships is made of. ---------------------------------------- Honor and Serve, 'till u Betray and Die! I betrayed, I died and i joined RKK. I got blessed and re-joined CLS.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:21:00 -
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Thats what you get for being dimits and allying yourselves with BE. Stupidity invokes stupidity, you shouldn't ask for favors after being friendly with ASCN's enemies.
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Drakma
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tutty Fruity
Originally by: Drakma
Originally by: Carebearis Starious
Originally by: FraXy
Originally by: Philyus
Originally by: FraXy I love Drakma.
Drakma eats babies.
Babies pawn teenagers.
Ninja pawn Pirate.
Pirates go "YARR!" and stuff.
Wanna touch my stuff and junk?
Whaddya gonna do with all that junk? All that junk up in your trunk?
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Plazmalord Soban
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:23:00 -
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This thread was not meant to be a flame toward ASCN but to be used as an informative tool for the rest of the game and to the ASCN pilots who have been mislead to the truth of events.
id like the forum mods to please delete all post which have nuthing to do with topics such as i like puppies dogs geisha or whatever else will come up.
No one flamed Cyvok We are not NAP'd with G Alliance Burn Eden is no longer affiliated with KOS And as for us not being strong enuff to hold down Omist. we would have had we not taken the advice of ASCN.
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Plazmalord Soban
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:27:00 -
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Quote: Thats what you get for being dimits and allying yourselves with BE. Stupidity invokes stupidity, you shouldn't ask for favors after being friendly with ASCN's enemies.
We were told to do what we had to do to survive by ASCN and it was agreed yea do whatever. Since BE and Smash were the only two alliances in the area who were willing. we did what we had to do. i'd like to thank both of those said organizations for upholding and doing what they said they would do.
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Philyus
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Drakma
Originally by: Tutty Fruity
Originally by: Drakma
Originally by: Carebearis Starious
Originally by: FraXy
Originally by: Philyus
Originally by: FraXy I love Drakma.
Drakma eats babies.
Babies pawn teenagers.
Ninja pawn Pirate.
Pirates go "YARR!" and stuff.
Wanna touch my stuff and junk?
Whaddya gonna do with all that junk? All that junk up in your trunk?
No, no, drama! You don't want no drama. --------------------
I am easily confused. Leave me alone! |
danneh
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Posted - 2006.01.05 04:45:00 -
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Edited by: danneh on 05/01/2006 04:45:17 Ally with FIX, and those guys.
Also ASCN behavior in relations with you guys and in this thread is retarded.
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Plazmalord Soban
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Posted - 2006.01.05 05:19:00 -
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Quote: Also ASCN behavior in relations with you guys and in this thread is retarded.
Amazing huh
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2006.01.05 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Plazmalord Soban
Quote: Also ASCN behavior in relations with you guys and in this thread is retarded.
Amazing huh
I'll get flamed to hell and back for saying this,but the backroom deal (notice that ASCN keeps a station as stated on the mails) and the forum brigade showing up to hush this up doesn't surprise me the least. I'll let the rest of you figure out why, since i'm trying to be nice and everything on the forums lately.
Apart from that,there's only one word fitting to describe a situation where BE have been better than ASCN at honoring their end of the bargain: Classic
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.05 05:51:00 -
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Quote: The southern powers have reached a deal with reguard to Omist.
de ja vu anyone? _____
"When mothers warned their children that the monster would get them, that monster was me. I was the nightmare that kept |
Illuvator Brightstar
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Posted - 2006.01.05 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Plazmalord Soban This thread was not meant to be a flame toward ASCN but to be used as an informative tool for the rest of the game and to the ASCN pilots who have been mislead to the truth of events.
id like the forum mods to please delete all post which have nuthing to do with topics such as i like puppies dogs geisha or whatever else will come up.
No one flamed Cyvok We are not NAP'd with G Alliance Burn Eden is no longer affiliated with KOS And as for us not being strong enuff to hold down Omist. we would have had we not taken the advice of ASCN.
Higher level politics isn't my forte, thus I will leave the OP to the diplomats/people with an ounce of power (aka not me). However, a few of these points here I can clarify (again from a peon's perspective).
First off, the part about informing ASCN pilots who have been mislead, I don't see anything in the original post that wasn't known by all who wanted to. None of us really wanted anything to do with Omist to begin with, it was our bad luck to be situated next to it. I had originally believed we would be supporting KoS in any conflict, but as more information was garnered (such as the G/IRON NAP), I began wondering what incentive we had to assist.
I can't speak as to BE still being affiliated with KoS, but their past staging out of Omist with KoS support is certainly applicable. And whether or not they're officially affiliated, there are certainly ties if they were training your military.
As to the G NAP... well there's this (SE member,taken from the thread " SE's Open letter to ASCN")
Originally by: c0rn1
Don't get me wrong, I know G-Alliance doesn't shoot us and I hope it stays like this
If that's not indicative of a NAP (Non-Agression Pact), I don't know what is.
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2006.01.05 06:35:00 -
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Is anyone really suprise with cyvok?
KOS, remember you still have friends in the south. Do not betray the south to by allying with the North like SE did. _______________________________________________ Deadspace For Dead space!
Originally by: Oveur
To the nerfmobile!
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