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Foomanshoe	Posted - 2006.01.05 19:30:00 - [91] Grim, i dont know if your X ASCN or a ASCN alt. However, if half of ASCN are going to pod me on sight, how come they havent yet? I see ASCN in local all the time, when i flew through feyth fighting G ascn didnt seem to mind. I dont doubt that alot of CLS members hate me as much as i hate them, but so far the most they have mustered is threats that they will shoot me. I don't doubt it is the same for Olyyy. Take your flamebait somewhere else "Grim". _______________________________________________ Deadspace For Dead space! Originally by: Oveur To the nerfmobile!
Eleese	Posted - 2006.01.05 19:38:00 - [92] Originally by: Foomanshoe Grim, i dont know if your X ASCN or a ASCN alt. However, if half of ASCN are going to pod me on sight, how come they havent yet? I see ASCN in local all the time, when i flew through feyth fighting G ascn didnt seem to mind. I dont doubt that alot of CLS members hate me as much as i hate them, but so far the most they have mustered is threats that they will shoot me. I don't doubt it is the same for Olyyy. Take your flamebait somewhere else "Grim". our dislike for olyyy and dislike for you are totally different. Olyyy's enemy status comes from ingame actions yours comes from total over the top/ out of game personal attacks at cyvok.
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2006.01.05 19:54:00 - [93] Originally by: Eleese Originally by: Foomanshoe Grim, i dont know if your X ASCN or a ASCN alt. However, if half of ASCN are going to pod me on sight, how come they havent yet? I see ASCN in local all the time, when i flew through feyth fighting G ascn didnt seem to mind. I dont doubt that alot of CLS members hate me as much as i hate them, but so far the most they have mustered is threats that they will shoot me. I don't doubt it is the same for Olyyy. Take your flamebait somewhere else "Grim". our dislike for olyyy and dislike for you are totally different. Olyyy's enemy status comes from ingame actions yours comes from total over the top/ out of game personal attacks at cyvok. you mean... you hate me less than you hate Cartiff ? I hate you ! Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
Liet Traep	Posted - 2006.01.05 20:12:00 - [94] Edited by: Liet Traep on 05/01/2006 20:13:36 Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Originally by: Eleese Originally by: Foomanshoe Grim, i dont know if your X ASCN or a ASCN alt. However, if half of ASCN are going to pod me on sight, how come they havent yet? I see ASCN in local all the time, when i flew through feyth fighting G ascn didnt seem to mind. I dont doubt that alot of CLS members hate me as much as i hate them, but so far the most they have mustered is threats that they will shoot me. I don't doubt it is the same for Olyyy. Take your flamebait somewhere else "Grim". our dislike for olyyy and dislike for you are totally different. Olyyy's enemy status comes from ingame actions yours comes from total over the top/ out of game personal attacks at cyvok. you mean... you hate me less than you hate Cartiff ? I hate you ! Considering how much work you put into protecting their asses back in the Xetic days the fact that they hate you at all reflects poorly on them. Soldiers and commanders who gave their all for their alliance should be respected. I'll resist the temptation to say more.
Eleese	Posted - 2006.01.05 20:25:00 - [95] I dont have any issues with olyy infact consiuder him a friend but from a game position he is an enemy im not saying hate.. hate is a strong word to be used in a game.
Sylic	Posted - 2006.01.05 20:46:00 - [96] Well KOS knows what i told them about ASCN. Prophecy come true.. And CYVOK i want to know all the "SOUTHERN POWERS" that were in on this decision? OH did you think we dont know that ASCN had G napped? Your covert ops pilots in system watching us move around while in SE?? Spies are so fun.. Now the next person that believes in what CYVOK tells them i am coming to pod you!! We are a sourthern corp and will remain so but atleast G/IRON are hororable in what they say they will do.. http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/FATE-X/sylic.bmp
Tatzlwurm	Posted - 2006.01.05 20:52:00 - [97] dont stick your foot in your mouth now ;) some things you say could come back to bite you later. ________________________________________ "Hey if your gonna do it, do it naked" "would you rather sandpaper an alligators A**hole in a phonebooth?"
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.01.05 20:59:00 - [98] Originally by: Sylic Now the next person that believes in what CYVOK tells them i am coming to pod you!! Well I asked earlier if plazma was able to prove he was asked to not fight back or put up POSes and then it went all quiet so... Also I am curious what u were promised (?) Originally by: Sylic We are a sourthern corp and will remain so but atleast G/IRON are hororable in what they say they will do.. cough pre-emptive cough - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
Plazmalord Soban	Posted - 2006.01.05 22:01:00 - [99] Edited by: Plazmalord Soban on 05/01/2006 22:04:09 now now after a small break i come back and its starting to look like ww3 in here. keep in mind the post "statement" was made to inform the eve community. Trash talking was not my motive. the motive was for KOS to express its voice. Since we are a southern alliance as well and we were not considered a Power that be. If we understood why ASCN decided to go this route the post might never have been made. We do not wish to be making threats toward ASCN because we would still like to work this out in some way, but the options given to us... lol if u can call them options sounded more like an altimatum. but upon delivery of this message ASCN members begin thrashing the board. how can KOS take ASCN seriously about anything. and with all due respect grim. i have not acknowledged alot of your posts because half the stuff u have posted is biased and distorted chunks of half truths. im not blaming you because i feel that information u recieve may have been flawed about the entire issue. but i also have attempted today to clear up any misguided accuzations about certain points such as The G alliance Nap .. and our involvement with BE... and the presence of a pilot within our alliance that had nuthing to do with the said circumstances that lead to this discussion. now again IF.... and this is a big if ASCN would have come to our TS and spoke with us directly... namely CYVOK we feel that all of the matters of above could have been worked out. Now lets get back to the table and work this out. U all know where we stand KOS is not leaving Omist and will not under any circumstances be alligned with an alliance who chose to impose its might within our home region. No one in any alliance would have stood for it... and neither shall we. if that puts us at -5 so be it. but as i stated before the blood is on ASCN's hands for killing friendlys not ours. ASCN will be set to neutral corp to corp depending on whether or not they decide to attack us or not. pilots of ASCn that chose not to fire upon us and still work with KOS and help defend the omist territory will be given +5 or higher standings. this is fair ... more fair than the "options" that have been present to us. Omist will not fall into the hands of an alliance that seeks to "keel Tahgits " - shifu hell they said a number of times they dont even want omist lol. when approached after 4 weeks of combat to try and offer SE the use of the space along with full docking rights under KOS rule... they said no u will leave... we have been more fair than we should just to try and end these conflicts down here. ASCN needs to do the right thing for once and show the rest of the community the honor that you preech. in doin so u will gain alot more supoport in the southern region and guarentee the future of ASCN. Once KOS has re collected itself and been able to take a bath in a nice warm station in Omist and begun to rebuild as before the Se conflict if needed to protect the south KOS will offer to do so.
Assassin 2	Posted - 2006.01.05 23:38:00 - [100] lets all be truthful here. ASCN are the one alliance in Eve that are ran by propaganda, they use their politics to make promises and wait....that is until the alliance their promises have been made to gets into trouble THEN out of the blue ASCN back stab their so called friends and turn into a bunch of NOOB COWARDS, all there is to say about ASCN and the sooner they get sh*t on by the north THE BETTER!. Btw Cyvok chats crap m8, so dont trust that loser he really aint worth the trouble -=silent... but... deadly=-
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.01.06 00:59:00 - [101] Originally by: Assassin 2 lets all be truthful here. ASCN are the one alliance in Eve that are ran by propaganda, they use their politics to make promises and wait....that is until the alliance their promises have been made to gets into trouble THEN out of the blue ASCN back stab their so called friends and turn into a bunch of NOOB COWARDS, all there is to say about ASCN and the sooner they get sh*t on by the north THE BETTER!. Btw Cyvok chats crap m8, so dont trust that loser he really aint worth the trouble Remember kids anyone can hate ASCN but did you actually ask yourself "what have I done to take ASCN down" ? "No Excuses." - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
Sable Terrick	Posted - 2006.01.06 01:21:00 - [102] Remember kids anyone can hate ASCN but did you actually ask yourself "what have I done to take ASCN down" ? "No Excuses." Just because a particular person hasnt given ASCN a kick in the teeth doesnt mean they cant recognize hypocritical,honorless dealing when they see it. I know its just a game but i really wonder how many of these mouthy F*cks would have the stones to say tha
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.01.06 03:58:00 - [103] uggg I use to like ASCN, but this makes me rethink that... The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Nache1	Posted - 2006.01.06 04:25:00 - [104] I want no more replys from any KOS alliance members on this post except for Plazmalord , this is his post. I do have alot of respect for EDF and those I was in gang with while fighting SE in omist , And yes ASCN fighters were in omist a few weeks fighting SE with KOS . Another point is that we have been in a pos war for well over 2 months now , now how is it a weak alliance can be able to do that ? because we are here to stay is why , omist is our home , and has been our home for a very long time now . I will not say anything bad about Cyvok , he did the best he could to help us in omist even though he did not want to put his alliance members in omist in the first place , the only reason we got any help at all is because Cyvok is a friend and was looking out for us as best he could TO KEEP HIS WORD . And yes Cyvok sent ASCN forces to omist and between ASCN/Smash/KOS we had omist locked down 95% of the time . That alone was a large help and I thank Cyvok & the ASCN fighters for that help . Now the only thing I have to say in Cyvok desiding to back SE to have a stable south is this .... Please do not change the good standings you have for KOS alliance , we are still your friends and will keep our standings at + to ASCN because we have way to many friends in ASCN .If you want KOS alliance to pull out of your space that is fine , but some of us do have a few bil worth of gear in your space so it will take time . Thank you and have a nice day . Nache1 DM of KOS Alliance
Creamster	Posted - 2006.01.06 04:28:00 - [105] Originally by: Plazmalord Soban when approached after 4 weeks of combat to try and offer SE the use of the space along with full docking rights under KOS rule... they said no u will leave... we have been more fair than we should just to try and end these conflicts down here. So we captured the stations and you offered us docking rights under KOS rule. Brilliant. Almost as brilliant as leading a bunch of miners to war against a group of pvp junkies over what? 5% refine tax! Should've kept on mining my friend ___________ If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again. We'll do all we can to help.
fwrfwgtqdq	Posted - 2006.01.06 04:33:00 - [106] Rabble!
Shai Faetal	Posted - 2006.01.06 05:10:00 - [107] lol ASCN backstabbing as usual, ****s. --- ^_^ my sig is better then urs, damn right! ^_^
Valerio Garati	Posted - 2006.01.06 05:12:00 - [108] it seems to me that cyvok got everyone to seize fire and be budds once again, and kos didnt want to be part of it. unified south was the goal, i guess some didnt want to take part in it.
TheAtreyu	Posted - 2006.01.06 06:26:00 - [109] Seems to me the major problem here is people in ASCN, SE, some in KOS and all other major alliances is that they think to much about the past....what someone did back when or who was part of what alliance when we were fighting them....thats all total crap...here it is...KOS was on friendly terms with G/IRON as to not have them come attack us...we never went with them or assisted them at all on attackign ascn...and come on...telling us u are going to help then changing ur mind and helping invaders makes ASCN look like total ****s...CYVOK and others u have no integrity and no honor AT ALL...if u say you are going to do something then do...quite being 2 faced and backstabbing ppl....i've seen post after post of MANY different corps saying ASCN has stabbed them in the back...yet people still defend ASCN and cyvok...how many times do they have to say 1 thing and do another before every1 in EVE can learn not to trust a single word that comes out of ASCNs mouth...they r in it for themselves and to help themselves bottom line and the sooner we all realize that the better....ok im done...lol later
Plazmalord Soban	Posted - 2006.01.06 06:40:00 - [110] TheAtreyu..... not to come down on you too hard here man but a mail asking all KOS members not to post on this thread has been sent to alliance. plus Nache1 also stated the same thing here in the post. Please comply with that order. We understand that alot of us in KOS are not only surprised and feel betrayed by the recent events. However perhaps ASCN has a more clear reasoning for doing what they did that we cannot see at present. KOS has stated the facts as we know them. The ball is in ASCNs Court now. And before we further distance ourselves from our neighbor we need to take a step back and work this out like i said in my last post. Flaming one another over what happend isnt gonna get either alliance anywhere and just create future problems. whats been stated is being dealt with.
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2006.01.06 07:20:00 - [111] WTS: Punctuation for Dummies, 500 isk
Grim Savage	Posted - 2006.01.06 08:18:00 - [112] Cyvok not honorable? Well, I have been around in the eastern parts of the south since way before the first SA / XF war. I have seen the glory and fall of many Sansha drones, and I have been on the wrong and right side of Cyvok and the guns of his Navy. To say that CYVOK is a man of no honor, makes me want to pod entire corporations. He is a man of honor, and he keeps his part of any agreement he makes, unless the circumstances change. KOS are not a victim of CYVOK. They are a victim of things happening around them. I have spoken to a few of the 'old timers' in ASCN (the once that been liveing in the area for years), and they are not happy with the mess in omist. Long where they waiting for the people in Omist to solve theire little fight. No solution came. SE was getting the eviction order. Theire POS's where all scouted. SE then comes to the table and through negotiations decide to adapt southern standings, and allow ASCN to oversee the station close to Feythabolis. That is a BIG change in the overall picture of the situation. Eve is about adaption and overcomeing. If it is true that KOS and SE started fighting because KOS didn't want to pay 5% refine tax to SE (who will probably end up looseing isk overall with the POS's needed to hold stations), then KOS realy needs to think about theire path. KOS and SE should get together and TALK! about WHAT they want. They should do that before this situation gets nasty.
Roxanna Kell	Posted - 2006.01.06 08:45:00 - [113] first of all you houldn't post. the issue could ve been sorted in may ways. you are posting private messages. how can anybody deal with you if you can t keep it shtum.
DeWieKat	Posted - 2006.01.06 09:21:00 - [114] well guys, after reading all this a have to add something... first, we are pvp corp/pvp based alliance with certain targets to achieve. thats "why" we been around in omist for last couple of weeks. since the emotions of some roleplayers getting higher on the whole issue, i have to remind you guys its what pragmatic politics are all about. under certain circumstances arrangements become meaningless. so 1.) dont blame cyvok only because you are angry, he is doing what he thinks is best for his alliance. 2.) issue with us (SE), KOS, not all of you, but several individuals , who had posted here on the formus, guys ive read your statements, i have to say, stop crying like bunch of children who¦ve lost theyr toys... i mean, what is this: "enjoy your meal se..., watch out se, at the moment u dont watch, we come back and kick u out, we will be back bla bla bla..." its like phrases from a bad bad hollywood picture. with all due respect to kos, guys get together, regroup somewhere to train for pvp, recollect ressourses and then engage again, you will see , if youve achieved certain level of pvp skills and established your backup then youll might have your region back. but, please, stop being personal here and go on flaming at people who¦s just trying to enjoy this game. with respect, dewiekat.
Fitz Chivalry	Posted - 2006.01.06 10:23:00 - [115] I posted this earlier but it seemed to have got lost when GalNet was taken down for cleaning. Anyway, here it is again, and I suggest that everyone close to this situation read it: Post on GalNet in Haste, Repent at your Leisure. People from ASCN should not post on GalNet. There is no sense in trying to sway people's opinion, it will get you nowhere. Everyone is convinced that they are right and everyone else is wrong. I think that the main reason why [G] is probably the least generally disrespected/disliked alliance is that they are the alliance that seems to post the least on GalNet. People who want to think the worst of ASCN will seize on any thread and stir things up and seize on anything you say to the contrary. Those that know what we are all about are aware of what is going on.
Mortuus	Posted - 2006.01.06 10:56:00 - [116] I've shot ASCN, I've shot KoS, I've shot TRIBAL...you get the idea. Honestly though, I may have to make a trip just to shoot ASCN again, I so miss them. Its been a while, maybe R97 is populated again... Occassus Republica, NBSI
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.01.06 11:24:00 - [117] I have come to the conclusion KoS is spreading lies, since after 1 day I still wasnt given any evidence either here or ingame that they wer actually told not to put up POSes or fight back. Right now it just seems to me you wer sitting tight waiting for ascn to fight your wars - you say you fought the POS war with SE how many POSs did you kill? - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
eXeCt	Posted - 2006.01.06 12:26:00 - [118] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig I have come to the conclusion KoS is spreading lies. I have come to the conclusion ASCN is spreading lies. Propaganda 4tw!
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.01.06 12:41:00 - [119] Originally by: eXeCt Originally by: Goberth Ludwig I have come to the conclusion KoS is spreading lies. I have come to the conclusion ASCN is spreading lies. Propaganda 4tw! Lied about what exactly? I dont see any official posts from ascn here - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
eXeCt	Posted - 2006.01.06 12:50:00 - [120] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Originally by: eXeCt Originally by: Goberth Ludwig I have come to the conclusion KoS is spreading lies. I have come to the conclusion ASCN is spreading lies. Propaganda 4tw! Lied about what exactly? I dont see any official posts from ascn here My conclusion is what it is, and there is nothing you can do about that, nomather how good a (forum) warrior you are

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