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Zolofine
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:33:00 -
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ROFLMAO 
OMG CCP OWNS YOU!
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Big BillyBob
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:40:00 -
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Oho, this is too funny.
I feel for all you people that invested a few measly isk on these BPOs to try and profit in real easy, really I do.
...naaah who am I kiddin', I couldn't care less. Shame on you for trying to exploit a screwed up market! Shame shame shame!
/laughs his ass off
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Semkhet
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:44:00 -
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Gamblers gambled, and lost. Now, instead of swallowing your bad fortune with honor, some are moaning like spoiled kids.
Stupidity is a privilege you shall not abuse.
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Serilla
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:52:00 -
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WTB: 1x tractor beam bpo for 5k isk.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:57:00 -
[125]
 Originally by: Nelson Muntz
"HA HA"
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Erfnam
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Serilla
WTB: 1x tractor beam bpo for 5k isk.
Hey, don't challenge my buy orders! :P I posted them up in Lonetrek and Forge a few hours ago. Anyone wanting to instantly recoupe some of their money, feel free to offload them to me. :)
Since RMR was released, I've bought a few of these little gems. From the few that i was copying & building, I made a lot from selling copies and built modules. The patch notes completely killed copies as a source of revenue and the module market wasn't very good. I knew the market was dead so I bought a few more after the patch notes in the hopes of turning a profit over the next year, but that seems to be dead. Oh wait, I did turn a profit off the ones I bought after the patch notes. nvm! :P
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0Virtu0
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Rho
Originally by: Nelson Muntz
"HA HA"
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: Vishnej on 10/01/2006 20:41:18
Originally by: Clytamnestra
This is like when people used the lottery number from the TV-show Lost, to play the real lottery.
Thereby dooming their ship to be the only thing surviving any fleetop they join.
Managed to actually turn a profit on these, after putting them up late last night for 12k more than I paid. Greed + market tips 4tw.
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Shugo Kazuma
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:20:00 -
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I don't see why people are complainning, I mean really, CCP is more than likely going to eventually raise the prices anyhow to be more in line with the other BPOs. But with the shear quantity in the market, prices will remain low for quite a while.
Personally I would never buy more than 25 of any item who's price "may" change sometime, announced or otherwise. People buying hundreds of these can probably affoard to take a small loss anyhow.
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Ky Vatta
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Posted - 2006.01.10 22:29:00 -
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 Who needs Tractor Beams?? Only the lazy...
The Graviton Physics mass buy-up was bad enough: That is why people don`t buy tractor beams...
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Skva
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Posted - 2006.01.10 22:36:00 -
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Anybody fancy buying twenty tractor beam BPOS? :P
Oh well, only got burned for a little over a mil lol.
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Regel
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Posted - 2006.01.10 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
The is answer is no im afraid.BPOS are not bought back by npcs.This has all been a cruel joke on the player base and the bpos that have been purchased since this was anounced in patch notes r now basically worthless.
I have about 500 i will sell for 20k each if any one wants them mail me ingame
Sure Ginger just escrow some and I'll come pick them up in Hagilur. :)
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Galifardeua
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Posted - 2006.01.10 23:09:00 -
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I just wanted to buy 10 as an investment that wouldn't cost me much. I got greedy and bought 100 with almost all my money. I got burned, I've grown wiser (or so I hope). And luckily I have already reached enough standing for some level 4, and I might recoup it quite easily (but with time, as courier missions is what I do).
Now, if only the only damned physics skill that I lack wasn't so expensive I might have use for one of these. The one I bought long ago when I saw it was much cheaper the BPO than the equipment.
Lesson: Don't be greedy!
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implanted
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Posted - 2006.01.10 23:11:00 -
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Absolute classic.....extemely funny stuff.
sSo the greedy finaly got there comeupance.
Nice.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.11 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Spy4Hire
For me, I will petition their lame little joke.
Go for it, but you're not getting anything back. It's simply you're fault for doing some selective reading regarding patch notes. To whine/petition for a reimbursement is just pathetic.
I bought 10 BPOs, and I'll probably find something fun/random to do with the 9 I won't use. I'm not going to cry about being down 1mil isk when I can make that back 5-fold doing a lvl 3 GE.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.01.11 00:13:00 -
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I bought 10... but I knew they would reverse this... it's not like the control tower episode.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.01.11 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Rho
Originally by: Nelson Muntz
"HA HA"
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Originally by: Abdalion
Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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DeGrand
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Posted - 2006.01.11 00:21:00 -
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ROFLMAO!!
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.11 00:34:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Kemuel
Originally by: Marcus Sovereign
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Um, on a totally unrelated topic.... both of "your" quotes in your sig are in fact attributed to either an old chinese saying or simply have no author.. and of course are very old.
Just making sure you knew that :)
It reminds me of the sig where someone's quoting Abraham Lincoln saying a famous quote of Socrates(?) or some other philosopher.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2006.01.11 01:47:00 -
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Edited by: Spartan III on 11/01/2006 01:50:08
Edited by: Spartan III on 11/01/2006 01:49:09
At least i only bought 8 mill worth
[Edit] And my corpmate bought 5 mill worth (he told me about the price change POST-PATCH this morning...)
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Bongo Smith
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Posted - 2006.01.11 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
The issue is the mockery this makes of patch notes. I formally withdraw my statement about liking Valar's patch notes.
I'm getting to the point where I feel I need to personally verify everything in the game I do still works after a patch (as well as anything in the patch notes which might possibly affect me). Sigh.
Huh? Go read the patch notes AFTER THE PATCH. I did. No mention of a price hike for Tractor Beam BPO. I believe this to be true. I suspect the patch notes are 100% accurate. Now, that is. Before the patch, they're SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
So instead of verifying everything in the game after the patch, why not just read the patch notes after the patch? The patch notes tell you what was changed in the patch. Note the past tense.
sigh.
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Syrec
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Posted - 2006.01.11 01:51:00 -
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lmao!
I bought 5 because the BPO icon looks great in my hangar. I get more than 500k for crappy named modules that drop off frig rats. It was worth the investment to be able to look in my hangar and say 'hey, I remember when everyone in EVE bought a bunch of useless BPOs thinking they could make lots of ISK.'
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Jaleean Atheria
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Posted - 2006.01.11 02:33:00 -
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This makes a mockery of the patch notes? Something that it is stated very clearly is tentative?
Hardly
This was the right thing to do. Anyone who bought multitudes of these with the intent to exploit the change (its not like they didnt know what they were doing.) Deserved this. Hell I think they deserved to be able to sell their BPOs then have the isk removed by a GM. It was an exploit that they closed before it happened.
BTW: Had they not announced the change then made it you all know you would have come in here whining about them not announceing the change. Don't pretend to say that you would not because you would.
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Qutsemnie
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Posted - 2006.01.11 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: Qutsemnie on 11/01/2006 02:43:32
There is nothing in this for CCP and if they thought there was then they didnt think logically. Though i give them credit and think those that are regarding it as a way to remove isk from the system are either wrong or reading way to much into it.
The only way this could be a clever ploy by CCP to remove isk from the system is if they stated the original price increase with the intent to cause a run. The not changing the price after the fact doesnt change anything.
Either way players are going to cut the NPC price now for X amount of quantity. They were going to cut it at a higher price before and they are going to cut it at the lower price now. Either way it will be X amount of quantity before the NPCs start removing isk from the game again. The amount of isk that has been removed from the game at this point in time exist without respect to whether or not CCP decided to increase in the price. Same amount have been purchased and the same amount have to be sold before NPCs are going to get in at their default rate.
So ignoring the idea that CCP planted this to create a run. Then the only two reasons a perfectly reasoned CCP would do this is because
a) they liked the old price better
b) they wanted to burn speculators.
c) they didnt get to it yet
On b) i doubt seriously they would go out of their way to burn speculators at the expense of what they believe is the best overall game decision. Now they will be even cheaper while the flood clears out and if they hadnt reversed their decision that would just be silly to steer into out of spite. So I reject that.
On c) they hadnt got to it in this patch. Who knows.
In the end im reasonably sure about 3 things.
1) If the price change had went through then because this was so over hyped the speculators would have learned a hard lesson about the concept of "present value of money". When your dealing with 50 other yahoos each with a stack of 100 and they all want to recoup their cost it would have took months to show what looked like a worthwhile profit. All of you had the same bottom line. EAch of you knows what the others bottom line is and only the most patient people would have shown the NPC value of BPO. The rest of you would have got something from slightly below your intial cost to below the BPO value with far to much jockying for position for anyones taste im sure.
2) No amount of isk was being created as it all would have come from other players. Though the "potential" for making isk seems large to anyone individual; in comparison to the economies interupted sink potential, the interupted BPO was a minor item in a very large economy.
3) In regards to quotes like this: "The only ppl to blame are those who thought they could rip other players off...." Ehhh rip them off by saving them money? In the end all this speculation could have done was keep people from paying an increased BPO price from NPC. And while other players might have made money for having the patiences or boredom to ignore their present value of isk long enough to have it tied up in this speculation in the end they were doing other players a SERVICE and not a disservice.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.11 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bongo Smith
Originally by: Maya Rkell
The issue is the mockery this makes of patch notes. I formally withdraw my statement about liking Valar's patch notes.
I'm getting to the point where I feel I need to personally verify everything in the game I do still works after a patch (as well as anything in the patch notes which might possibly affect me). Sigh.
Huh? Go read the patch notes AFTER THE PATCH. I did. No mention of a price hike for Tractor Beam BPO. I believe this to be true. I suspect the patch notes are 100% accurate. Now, that is. Before the patch, they're SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
Subject to change | lying.
Dev comment quite likely required. I don't think it was deliverate, but I'd like that confirmed.
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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Robinete Broadhead
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Posted - 2006.01.11 02:53:00 -
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This is funny; I did buy 10 Tractor Beam BPOs based on the patch notes. So much for getting that new BS I was going to get with my profits.
But with all the problems CCP has had since they moved into the new offices, I truly believe the forgot to have gotten the elves approval first. It was their office and I don't think they liked CCP moving in. The elves were the ones that snuck the BPO prices in the notes, which CCP had to correct, and the elves are the ones that missed up the font in RMR.
Please CCP, make peace with the elves
And Please, Please feed the Hamsters.
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2006.01.11 03:31:00 -
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Looks like the gold diggers just got the shaft!
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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2006.01.11 03:45:00 -
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Let me explain this:
Step 1: Tractor Beam BPOs have a bugged price
Step 2: Fix added to patchnotes
Step 3: 50k BPOs are sold in 48 houts
Step 4: There is now no reason to increase the price
Step 5: HAHAHA OWNED
No conspiricy. No prior planning. Just an obvious response to a situation that occured not because there was an abusable price change, but because it was so cheap that every random moron could get in on it (and did).
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Syrec
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Posted - 2006.01.11 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Robinete Broadhead
This is funny; I did buy 10 Tractor Beam BPOs based on the patch notes. So much for getting that new BS I was going to get with my profits.
You wouldn't have been able to buy a new BS with the profits. In many main regions over 15,000 of these sold within the past few days. I'd guess somewhere between 100,000 and 150,000 of these sold in total.
The huge supply would lead to major undercutting. People would be selling them at bare minimum prices. You would probably have to wait over a year if you wanted to make the kind of profit you are talking about.
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Aiden Carlyle
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Posted - 2006.01.11 04:28:00 -
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Tractor beams would be a helluva lot more popular if the stupid skill required to use them weren't NPC/agent obtainable ONLY, and the eve-verse as a whole wasn't being extorted by people who mark them up to 50+ mil.
Bring the skillbook availability in line and I think people would find it much easier to sell these very cool and very useful modules.
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