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sonofollo	Posted - 2006.01.11 09:32:00 - [91] well i agree AF and interceptors are good all round ships - require some skills and t2 weapons skills to fit em are good to. a BS and AF-interceptor combo is even better still for PVPing in small scale situations Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw.
Zazza Zaa	Posted - 2006.01.11 09:44:00 - [92] WolfGang H You gotta wake up
Law Enforcer	Posted - 2006.01.11 09:46:00 - [93] Yes I fly around with buddies killing enemies where they are their weakest. If this makes me a coward what are you going to do about it? cry?
Blind Fear	Posted - 2006.01.11 09:46:00 - [94] The only thing that really annoys me is people who fit stabs on combat setups... And then smacktalk because they managed to run away. Seriously, WTF? ------------------------------------------------ Derailing threads with logic since 1992
sonofollo	Posted - 2006.01.11 09:48:00 - [95] well the ones that smack after getting away are good candidates for a 8 warp scrambler scorp special along with other ships to kill em - that teaches em good Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw.
dantes inferno	Posted - 2006.01.11 14:23:00 - [96] first to wolfgang the idiot...i do solo pvp just as much as in groups..i also wil engage out numbered if im in the mood to..it is just my own personal preference i like to work with my corp mates you know? team work one of the main benefits of a massivly multi playeronline game..why in hell would i conecentrating on flying on my own in a mmo? disregarding lag i love been in a gang of 10-100 engaging another gang of similar/less/greater size. Just because you either have no friends to play with (from your ideas more likley the case), or you seriously have some warped ideas..eve aint a 1 player game with a chat function you know. Quote: Parading around in Empire space with your nice +4 or higher security ratings like you are such a 'good guy', maybe bad mouthing Empire pirates and perhaps even getting anti-pie corp protection while in Empire. 1) yes i have a +5 sec status..you know why? i dont like to kill people unless they meat one of the following criteria 1) they have a nice - sign (or a red star in empire) 2) they enter my claimed space without a nice + sign i do not kill indesgrimently..as i belive people have the right to play as they want..but all that does change in 0.0 as second you enter you are consenting to pvp...and you enter my space without permission..damn i am going to kill you..me and my alliance mates have lost millions if not billions of isk each making it secure..why should a person like you who has done nothing earn its rewards? Quote: Oops turn the corner and now in 0.0 space with no accountability and out comes the true ax murderers ganking the same players you just shared Empire space with moments ago those players, like me have a right to be in empire..they have no right to be in my claimed space without permission as they have not earned it..we have..which is why i dont kill people in empire..but i do in our space. Quote: without a second thought and then giving the party line 'spy' excuse. thats because 9/10 cases they are spies..just cause you want to play the "wowez me the ebil alliance people kill me for entering their soverign space..PITY ME!!!!!!" card will not change the fact that the majority of people entering alliance space is for one of three reasons\ 1) to spy for an enemy 2) to attack the inhabitents 3) to use resources they have no right to use all thre warrent death. you want to go to 0.0 attack some one who claims the space, drive them out and claim it for yourself..or contact an alliance for standings.. cont...... _____ "When mothers warned their children that the monster would get them, that monster was me. I was the nightmare that kept
dantes inferno	Posted - 2006.01.11 14:26:00 - [97] part 2.... Quote: [I can think of no lower gutless hypocrits. At least Empire pirates have the balls to take the security hits. this shows how patheticaly ignorant and closed minded you are. if you could look past your own weak willed limp wristed way of seeing things you would find that most alliance people do not want to kill you until you become a threat to their space by entering it without permission...they dont attack you in empire as it is not in their intrest they gain nothing by it....when you go to their claimed space thoug..their either gaining security by removing a potential threat..or their removing a leech who is using recources they have not earned the right to use. _____ "When mothers warned their children that the monster would get them, that monster was me. I was the nightmare that kept
Sovereign1100	Posted - 2006.01.11 15:15:00 - [98] <YAWN> As if I care what you or anyone else thinks about my style or choice of PvP combat I like to do. Fact is, Every encounter is different in this game. You never know whats around the corner. A fleet, or a lone interceptor. Sometimes I'm alone, sometimes i'm in a fleet. I like trying it all. If you can't adapt to different styles of play/PvP, go play WoW and stop judging other players and their tactics. Maybe as you gain more experience you will learn how to deal with the different types of combat. Maybe not and you will just keep complaining how everyone else is a coward. Again, as if I care what you think... <YAWN>
Kage Getsu	Posted - 2006.01.11 15:17:00 - [99] I don't understand how simply flying an interceptor is cowardly
Winterblink	Posted - 2006.01.11 15:34:00 - [100] Originally by: WolfGang H 0.0 should not equal "Must kill unless blue." The great thing about this game is that what 0.0 equates to you does not have to be the same as for someone else. winterblink warp drive active.http://winterblink.com/wda nature vraie.http://winterblink.com/env
Ghey Iislandur	Posted - 2006.01.11 15:47:00 - [101] Originally by: WolfGang H From what I've seen, except in and directly around KEY SYSTEMS, G alliance is VERY friendly and open to "neutrals" and "unknowns" yet they do not have the problems you listed. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! OMFG that's a good one! G is one of the most war-oriented alliances in the entire game other than maybe RA. I can remember being one of the peaceful carebears in ASCN territory that was at war with them when they decided to have a POS war for AZN after trashing Stain. Don't try and spin that crap here dude. All alliances to a certain extent beat their chest - some just do it more than others. ______________________________________________ Won't you give to the Minmatar Orphans of War Charities? With your generous donation of ore or isk, we can reunite a Minmatar slave with his family.
Ghey Iislandur	Posted - 2006.01.11 15:57:00 - [102] Originally by: dantes inferno card will not change the fact that the majority of people entering alliance space is for one of three reasons\ 1) to spy for an enemy 2) to attack the inhabitents 3) to use resources they have no right to use all thre warrent death. you want to go to 0.0 attack some one who claims the space, drive them out and claim it for yourself..or contact an alliance for standings.. cont...... Oh, so we should bow down and kiss CCP's butts then for sticking level 4 R&D agents in alliance controlled space? Sorry dude, everyone's got a right to use the NPC agents and it was a big mistake for CCP to put a lot of the level 4's only in specific alliance controlled territory. Just because your alliance might have "lucked out" and got the space with the agent, hardly gives you a right to be the only ones with the BPO. However, to my credit I did start a dialoge with the alliance in question, and of course was told I'd need to enter a "feeder" corp for a month or two (mind you I have 16M+ sp and been playing for over a year) prior to being able to "apply" for the 0.0 corp. No thanks dude. I don't think I'm interested. Not that it matters to me, I fly covert ops. I'll be glad to tie up 5-10 of you all day while I hear the crying and moaning about "you should show yourself and fight fair". Cloak, ss and log 4tw. ______________________________________________ Won't you give to the Minmatar Orphans of War Charities? With your generous donation of ore or isk, we can reunite a Minmatar slave with his family.
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2006.01.11 15:58:00 - [103] Originally by: WolfGang H Awww... pooor Righteous Fury just got owned. Originally by: WolfGang H You have been served. z0mg, he is breakdancing in his own face. If you aren't taking the pis5, you really are mentally challenged. King Liu is RIGHT!!
slothe	Posted - 2006.01.11 15:59:00 - [104] Originally by: aeti the clueless factor is very high here :/ totally agree. eve is designed so that one ship (ie battleships) do not dominate a game. at the start they did and battleships could wtfpwn anything. eve is designed for teamwork so teams > loners. pvp in eve is hard enough to find as it is. you often have to travel long distances to fight. if your travelling any distance you want small fast ships = interceptors. i find it hard to believe that any npcer in 0.0 can die by a group of interceptors. if you have half a brain its extremely easy to avoid being ganked, unless you are unlucky at a gate. if you dont have half a brain u deserve to die frankly. as to groups being cowardly - their not. their simpkly having fun. any target in 0.0 is fair game, including haulers npcers , anything. if you cant handle the risk stay in empire.
nahtoh	Posted - 2006.01.11 16:03:00 - [105] Originally by: WolfGang H Edited by: WolfGang H on 11/01/2006 06:27:23 Anyone flying around in interceptors or in big groups of ships looking for that fast easy kill is a coward. What do interceptors kill best? NPC set up battleships (non combatants) You can't call any combat ship a non combatant, unless its got no weapons fitted even then its kinda hard for intercepor to be able to tell before they engage.. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Kyle Caldrel	Posted - 2006.01.11 16:05:00 - [106] Hey WolfGang H, wast you claming some deadend system in empire, why dont you just go back to your hole? ******************************************************* What ya gonna do, when I come for you!?
Scalor Valentis	Posted - 2006.01.11 16:15:00 - [107] This tread is funny what self respecting true PVPer enjoys hanging out in groups? thats reely good guestion. i wonder
Turia	Posted - 2006.01.11 16:36:00 - [108] Originally by: WolfGang H Anyone flying in groups of BSes might try to argue that they are not playing in a "cowardly" fashion, but playing in a "smart" fashion. But really, to have courage is to break away from the mob mentality and be your own person. In ANY MMO, what self respecting true PVPer enjoys hanging out in groups? Think about that. Any with a clue. Lone wolves die to numbers. Thus it has been since the dawn of man, and always shall it be. Those too dense to grasp that simple fact of warfare will disappear into history. See any knights around, lately? No daimyo keeping you down? There's a reason for that. The prime duty of any organized group is to ensure the survival of that group. (All other goals are secondary, as without the group, those goals are quite meaningless.) Those who fall prey to the victims and their cries of 'coward!' are, in fact, the true cowards - putting their own ego before their duty of defending the group of which they are a part. Originally by: WolfGang H PVPers should fight PVPers and either ransom or ignore non combatants. You dont have to destroy everything you see. BTW, if you ransom correctly you will make more isk than if you just blindly randomly pk, and the people who you ransomed, if they are smart, will respect you for ransoming instead of killing. Everyone is a combatant. What, pray tell, do you think that hold full of ore is going to be used for? Creating furniture? It's going to be turned into a variety of lovely weapons. That, by its very nature, makes supposed non-combatants, combatants. If they weren't combatants, maybe they'd have a hold full of exotic dancers or homeless people, but they wouldn't be hauling around prime ore.
Daald	Posted - 2006.01.11 16:41:00 - [109] I would substitute coward for boring. And that would only apply to certain people :/ Some people find blobs fun. If the mentality is: 1- Losing a ship is a huge loss 2- If you are in a fair fight you did something wrong. Then boredom or kicking yourself for your stupidity is the result for the side that loses. How do you minimize that loss? Fly things you can afford to lose (t1 frigs) in effect removing the death penalty and swarm people with kestrels. Yay..fun again :( To the blobmobile my kessy hugging buddies!
El Yatta	Posted - 2006.01.11 16:59:00 - [110] I like how he asks in what other MMO do PVPers feel te need to gang up. Two points: -EVERY other MMO. and -No other MMO actually has PVP. Be honest, any system whereby you have the daft "ghost" system,and you dont lose anything of real value , and there's no real risk to dying, or death penalty, is not true PVP. EVE is the only major MMO that has PVP. ---:::---
Constantine Arcanum	Posted - 2006.01.11 17:18:00 - [111] Originally by: WolfGang H Edited by: WolfGang H on 11/01/2006 07:24:38 Originally by: **take Originally by:** WolfGang H Originally by: ****take I am a miner and I have been ganked many times in my Eve career. Did I start a thread WHINING about PvP as a whole? No. Just learn from your mistakes and stop whining . . boo freaking hoo F+ A plus for amusing me. Let me guess, I get an F+ because I didn't coddle you in your little loss to those ebil pirates. You sir get an F+ for starting this stupid thread and making yourself look weak and whinry. You are what's wrong in Eve. You do not take sufficient precations in your activities and get ganked and it's everybody elses fault. I hope your RL is not like this. Ah, another person who assumes that because someone wants to have a civilized discussion concerning pvp, he must be whining and must have recently been ganked and he must be a noob who does not fully know the mechanics of EVE and does not yet know how to check the map, use the scanner, use scouts, scout for himself, use bookmarks, use common sense, and utilize all the tricks and methods of both escaping from harm and bringing harm upon those who would cause harm. I change the score I gave you to an F- because you have no reading comprehension. Go sit in the cornor. Sh1ttake is RIGHT. I'm an ex alliance member, I jumped into a 6 man gankfleet in my Battleship, took one of them down, and yeah, I lost my BS. But I don't make pointless threads about it and enrage people. EVE is built for PvP. I'm a PvPer, soley because I find it FAR more enjoyable than staring at veldspar for hours. There is nothing quite like taking down a smacktalking eejit who thinks he's untouchable in his little safespot. Try it yourself. You will change your view immediately the first time you bag a BS. Stop wasting our time by making these frankly INFURIATING carebear remarks, one after another. You don't like the sense of loss in EVE? Go play WoW.
David Sinclair	Posted - 2006.01.11 17:20:00 - [112] Originally by: Scalor Valentis This tread is funny what self respecting true PVPer enjoys hanging out in groups? thats reely good guestion. i wonder I think the emphasis was more on the "hanging out" rather than the "in groups". Boil it down, and this is just another rant against gate ganking gangs. Lets face it, it's not exactly the height of courage and combat prowess to get a gang to camp a gate and blast anyone coming through... That said, it's clearly part of the game, and likely a reason why I won't last too long in this game. I enjoy PvP, but I don't think ganker ambushers belong as a part of any game. To me, the whole point of PvP is about making the game more difficult. Any AI controlled unit will always get beaten by humans, but fighting against another human is much trickier. But what's the point of ganking? The person being ganked has no chance and is no threat. Unless you get your rocks off ruining someone else's fun, I don't see the point. It's part of the game, and ranting on the forums isn't likely to change anyone's behavior, but let's be real: No one should think they're some kind of bad ass just because they get a gang together and gank people warping through a gate...
Hellspawn666	Posted - 2006.01.11 17:33:00 - [113] This is blatently flaimebait. Everyone knows playing the good guy in this game is boring and drawn out the only difference is those who will corp theif or lie to their means and those who will just kill u and tell u that u neary got him to just to make u feel better. Why is everything so aggressive some people just need to chill out and remember its a game, if somone pk's u then its likly not to be personal its just the ways of the eve world.
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2006.01.11 17:41:00 - [114] Sweeping generalisations do not a good argument make. Take mercenaries for example, they are entirely dependent upon contracts. If we didn't get contract fees and we didn't sell on the loot from destroyed ships, we'd have no income - we simply don't have the infrastructure. What we do have is an infrastructure that allows people to PvP when they want and to enjoy it. Losses result in lower profits for us, which ultimately lead to major difficulties in maintaining a PvP squad that is effective. EVE is about freedom, and this is the path we have chosen. Hence, our tactics are heavily dependent upon the risk factor. It doesn't mean we won't take risks, but we aren't going to run head-long into the fray out of foolish pride. Most of all we enjoy flying as a pack; complimenting each others setups, satisfaction in squad discipline and the joy of working as a team. How else would you expect a corporation of twenty-five pilots to come off better against a thousands-strong alliance? In a sport like rugby, if more than one man assists in tackling another is he a coward, or just helping out his fellow man? The main reason I love Battle Angels so much is that every single pilot is my friend, and it is an honour to fly by their side. I can think of countless examples where we have faced superior numbers and ship classes and come off better due to sheer tactical knowledge. These are tactics polished and handed down over months, even years of non-stop player vs. player combat. Of course we've flown in Interceptor gangs, or used a squad of Battleships to take down a heavily defended foe. It doesn't mean we're stupid, or cowards. We're simply using the tools and training we have to make a profit for ourselves in this enormous online universe, as well as have some fun on the side. Movie Trailer
Kalixa Hihro	Posted - 2006.01.11 18:13:00 - [115] Originally by: WolfGang H Edited by: WolfGang H on 11/01/2006 06:27:23 Anyone flying around in interceptors or in big groups of ships looking for that fast easy kill is a coward. What do interceptors kill best? NPC set up battleships (non combatants) haulers (non combatants) mining ships (non combatants) frigates (noobs and poor people) and other interceptors (bottom feeders). Anyone flying in groups of BSes might try to argue that they are not playing in a "cowardly" fashion, but playing in a "smart" fashion. But really, to have courage is to break away from the mob mentality and be your own person. In ANY MMO, what self respecting true PVPer enjoys hanging out in groups? Think about that. PVPers should fight PVPers and either ransom or ignore non combatants. You dont have to destroy everything you see. BTW, if you ransom correctly you will make more isk than if you just blindly randomly pk, and the people who you ransomed, if they are smart, will respect you for ransoming instead of killing. Actually with the new precision cruise missiles, it takes some ******* to fly an interceptor. They get instapopped by these and cannot get away from them. And BTW, if you are in low security space, you become a PvPer. if you don't like it, get out. In case you don't know this (and you obviously don't) people run around in squads, typically because their enemies do. If you are by yourself, you are meat. If you happen to be neutral to them, you will be shot if you are in a noob corp. Noob corps are typically enemy alts spying. My advice is start your own corp, contact the ceo's of corps that own the space you are frequenting, and get yourself set to positive. That's how you solve that problem. -Kal
Han Grit	Posted - 2006.01.11 18:14:00 - [116] I will refer to PVP as to what PVP in games more properly is - it is about fighting. Otherwise we could call a game of Monopoly or Cluedo PVP too, so let's put philosophy aside for a moment. Originally by: JeanLuc Picarde yep gankers aint pvpers, their PKers. Finally someone mentioned it. Both are ok, everyone plays as they like, but PVPing and PKing don't necessarily take the same fibre, tactics or skills. In the days of yore, if a horse mounted warlock killed a miner with a pack horse we didn't call it PVPing. I speak as someone who only has a tiny weensy bit of PVP in any mmorpg, but u don't need to be the King Of Bananas to recognize they're yellow and curved. Originally by: Dash Ripcock In a sport like rugby, if more than one man assists in tackling another is he a coward, or just helping out his fellow man? He's a teammate and doing his job. In sports tho the match is usually between teams with the same numbers, and they've all come out of the lockers room with violence in mind (said that, I'd love to be in a large fleet battle someday, if it's still allowed by Lag Inc. ). Originally by: Some hilarious guy I've seen on british TV while on a trip Why ? WHY ? Why can't we all LOVE each other!!??!? Keep the love up. ---------------------------------------------------------- Do not bother about this post if you have no humour.
MaiLina KaTar	Posted - 2006.01.11 18:28:00 - [117] Originally by: WolfGang H ...if you CAN kill someone (they are flsagged, they are in 0.0, a bug allows you to, whatever) then most people DO KILL them. 0.0 should not equal "Must kill unless blue." And on which reasoning do you base that opinion? Mai's Idealog
Gort	Posted - 2006.01.11 19:23:00 - [118] Originally by: MaiLina KaTar Originally by: WolfGang H ...if you CAN kill someone (they are flsagged, they are in 0.0, a bug allows you to, whatever) then most people DO KILL them. 0.0 should not equal "Must kill unless blue." And on which reasoning do you base that opinion? I'm guessing he's basing it more on experience rather than reasoning. Regards, Gort Makeup artist for the dead
aeti	Posted - 2006.01.11 19:33:00 - [119] Originally by: Ginger Magician Mercenary Coalition are one the worst examples of cowardly gank squad lovers that i have seen in my in eve career.Not one of them could hold a candle to me in solo combat What happened here then?
Carth Jared	Posted - 2006.01.11 20:13:00 - [120] Prolly wasnt ready so it doesnt count >_< ATUK

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