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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.01.17 02:07:00 -
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Recently in a certain system my corp, destroyed an obelisk freighter in a low sec system, and to our outrage we found that the frieghter was hauling 8bs plus other misc ships 3 full pos's fuel etc in other words lots of money.... But yet for our hard work and our hard earned ammo we dont get anything out of it, cause frighters do not drop loot :P common ccp I wanna see those bs's spew out from that explosion give us our hard earned items!
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.17 02:19:00 -
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You will need to learn not to pop freighters. Didnt you read Ransom 101?   ----------------
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Uggster
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Posted - 2006.01.17 02:22:00 -
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Doh !
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Leno
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Posted - 2006.01.17 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Superbus Maximus Recently in a certain system my corp, destroyed an obelisk freighter in a low sec system, and to our outrage we found that the frieghter was hauling 8bs plus other misc ships 3 full pos's fuel etc in other words lots of money.... But yet for our hard work and our hard earned ammo we dont get anything out of it, cause frighters do not drop loot :P common ccp I wanna see those bs's spew out from that explosion give us our hard earned items!
the advantage is that considering the cost of the ship as well as the value of the cargo it is often possible to ransom freighters for lots and lots of isk --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Darkdashing
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Posted - 2006.01.17 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Superbus Maximus Recently in a certain system my corp, destroyed an obelisk freighter in a low sec system, and to our outrage we found that the frieghter was hauling 8bs plus other misc ships 3 full pos's fuel etc in other words lots of money.... But yet for our hard work and our hard earned ammo we dont get anything out of it, cause frighters do not drop loot :P common ccp I wanna see those bs's spew out from that explosion give us our hard earned items!
heads up man if it's PC you're killing in frieghters, ransom them.
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.01.17 02:34:00 -
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Thats stupid I dont care about the ser node crash that suka as long as I get my ships and loot! besides this guy logged no way to randsom :P
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Sylpha Dragoon
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:00:00 -
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Ahhh yes, ransom! That would allow you to buy good loot and nice mods. :)
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:26:00 -
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After blowing up a couple freighters, I quickly learned that ransoming was the way to go. But you still have to be willing to pop them and get nothing if they won't meet your demands.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2006.01.17 06:54:00 -
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I wish all my ship would be like this 
Thank you CCP for giving us ship that makes sure no piwate scumbag gets our hard earned cash and loot! 
Azuriel Talloth: If it ain't broke, change it so it mildly annoys the playerbase  |

Malken
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Posted - 2006.01.17 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon I wish all my ship would be like this 
Thank you CCP for giving us ship that makes sure no piwate scumbag gets our hard earned cash and loot! 
kinda like your head then?, ***** it open and find nothing!
it needs to drop loot. seing as ransoming of freighters is most of the time not possible as when they see a camp they log out instantly and then logs in a alt on the same account to make sure they freighter dissapears as fast as possible.
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.01.17 09:21:00 -
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ROFLCOPTERS
You post in the Piracy section of the forums of your pirating yet totally fail to...uhm...pirate?
Someone give this man a free lesson! 
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.01.17 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 17/01/2006 09:53:55
Originally by: Kinsy ROFLCOPTERS
You post in the Piracy section of the forums of your pirating yet totally fail to...uhm...pirate?
Someone give this man a free lesson! 
this is not the pirate section, its the pvp section, thank you.
/edit: and if you read again you can see the guy logged.
quite hard to ransom someone when they are logged. maybe ccp should give the pirates the logger his phonenumber, so you can call em and ask how much they want for their freighter.  _________________________________________________
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.17 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap this is not the pirate section, its the pvp section, thank you.
/edit: and if you read again you can see the guy logged.
quite hard to ransom someone when they are logged. maybe ccp should give the pirates the logger his phonenumber, so you can call em and ask how much they want for their freighter. 
I always figured this would be where people post things like who got booted from what corp and why, or who ****ed off who.
Then again, by the time my Trial account was working, I realized its nothing of the sort.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Darky24
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Posted - 2006.01.17 10:46:00 -
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I was recently there to watch a few corp makes take down a freighter. I was only in a harpy =/
Anyway, we ransomed, and he logged. So we blew him up, got nothing. YARRR  -----------------------------------------------
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.01.17 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Darky24 I was recently there to watch a few corp makes take down a freighter. I was only in a harpy =/
Anyway, we ransomed, and he logged. So we blew him up, got nothing. YARRR 
Sux dont it. CCP please change this give us pirates somthing you keep taking away from us hard working pirates, give us somthing this is not much to ask I dont think.
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Malken
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Posted - 2006.01.17 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Superbus Maximus
Originally by: Darky24 I was recently there to watch a few corp makes take down a freighter. I was only in a harpy =/
Anyway, we ransomed, and he logged. So we blew him up, got nothing. YARRR 
Sux dont it. CCP please change this give us pirates somthing you keep taking away from us hard working pirates, give us somthing this is not much to ask I dont think.
exactly, every patch they take away options we have to do the work of a pirate. every patch and tweak they nerf pirates.
is eve becoming a solo player mission whoring game that they can play with total safety?
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Izzabellaz
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:17:00 -
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first you whine over the lagg now you whine over a frieghter dont drop any loot 
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Suhadi
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: Suhadi on 25/01/2006 13:37:40
Originally by: Izzabellaz first you whine over the lagg now you whine over a frieghter dont drop any loot 
Ah, so you have a good explanation for why they shouldn't drop loot?
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Jin Entres
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 17/01/2006 09:53:55
Originally by: Kinsy ROFLCOPTERS
You post in the Piracy section of the forums of your pirating yet totally fail to...uhm...pirate?
Someone give this man a free lesson! 
this is not the pirate section, its the pvp section, thank you.
No, this is the 'Crime & Punishment' section - You make a thread (crime), you get the flames (punishment).
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Revenge 1
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Darky24 I was recently there to watch a few corp makes take down a freighter. I was only in a harpy =/
Anyway, we ransomed, and he logged. So we blew him up, got nothing. YARRR 
Is logging not an exploit? If not they should fix it so your toon stays in space while in combat
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Kery Nysell
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Posted - 2006.01.25 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Superbus Maximus *snip*give us our hard earned items!*snip*
Yeah, really hard to launch some ammo his way.
And you were a gang killing a lone freighter, if I read was you said correctly ... soooooo hard ...
Well, in all honesty, there could be some work involved in killing a freighter, something like maybe 1/100th of the work (and hours) needed to fill it ...
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Severa Crest
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Posted - 2006.01.25 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kery Nysell
Originally by: Superbus Maximus *snip*give us our hard earned items!*snip*
Yeah, really hard to launch some ammo his way.
And you were a gang killing a lone freighter, if I read was you said correctly ... soooooo hard ...
Well, in all honesty, there could be some work involved in killing a freighter, something like maybe 1/100th of the work (and hours) needed to fill it ...
If it was so hard to fill, then maybe you should try defending it.
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Kery Nysell
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Posted - 2006.01.25 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Kery Nysell on 25/01/2006 14:23:59
Originally by: Severa Crest If it was so hard to fill, then maybe you should try defending it.
Never said the freighter pilot (and his corp) was right ... those ships should be defended, even more so when they go in lowsec.
What got me cranky was the notion that blowing a ship up was "hard work" ... in fact, after a bit more than a year in this game, I've found that exploding a ship was one of the easiest things there is ...
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Hughy
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Posted - 2006.01.25 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Revenge 1
Originally by: Darky24 I was recently there to watch a few corp makes take down a freighter. I was only in a harpy =/
Anyway, we ransomed, and he logged. So we blew him up, got nothing. YARRR 
Is logging not an exploit? If not they should fix it so your toon stays in space while in combat
this sounds grand.
but what then happens to the guy who Genuinly Crashes to desktop and can`t defend himself/call for backup?
Sentinel Roqeze > I'm so drunk I'll probably try ransoming the sentries
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USA4
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Posted - 2006.01.25 15:48:00 -
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nysell, you are narrow minded and hardly worth this reply.
pirating/privateering is extremely time consuming if its done correctly. Requires two cloaked scouts on each of the pipelines conecting with the system your trying to kill in. Constant non stop watching those two acounts to make sure you are rdy for your next target, and to help with avoiding the anti pirates(random group of mofos that ya ****ed off)fleets when they atempt to jump us.
Then in my line of work you must have a dedicated tackler that can also tank the sentries in low sec space(battleship normally) and a dedicated damage dealer or two.
Now lets take into acount the countless hours that go by and you get nothing, not a single target. In this age of eve you have battleships warping fast as frigs due to them stacking on nanofibers, same with indies, and if its not nanos is a bazilion warp core stabalizers. And omg slit my wrist @ the tier 1 transport ships.
There is alot of fake pirates/privateers that are actually no more than just a player in eve that does pvp in my opinion. My sole source of income in eve comes from just pirating/privateering, therefore it is not financially wise for me to be sending are fleet into head on fleet warfare while tanking sentries, unless the odds are in are favor. Which in turn = more boredom due to less enjoyable fights, but its all about the money, not about the honor(although my word is good in case any reading ever finds themselves getting ransomed by me).
In closing Piracy/piravteering is alot like going fishing in the real world, you may go all day and not catch a single fish or you may just catch a whale(freighter)
ps not spell checked, not perfect and not a full list of all the hardwork and dedication that goes into being a pirate/privateer that actually makes isk.
Yep you heard it straight from the horses mouth, I work ten times as hard as any miner, without the option to divert my attention to my tv while i do my work. Farming a complex or mining would be alot less streneous than pirating/privateering.
soooooo why do i pirate/privateer instead of farm a complex or mine? cause sometimes its better than sex and ill leave it at that. dont really want to inspire anymore competition.
how to spell yahahahaaarrr?
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Saerid
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Posted - 2006.01.25 15:50:00 -
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Sounds a bit fishy to be sure. It should drop cans like everything else. Of course you'd be wasting colossal amount of cash by popping a freighter (unless you're seriously saying you in fact can move 900000 m3 of loot before the cans start popping) even if it did drop stuff.
Pretty clear ransom boat if for no other reason than lot of that cargo is bound to be more valuable to them than you (think intermediate POS reactions, raw materials, maybe some capital comps. high volume low value stuff like trit,isotopes) just by the virtue of being the middle pieces of some production chain. Ie, the people actually needing/using the stuff are few and running large scale operations as it is.
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Aeron Ralth
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Posted - 2006.01.25 16:02:00 -
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Quote: but what then happens to the guy who Genuinly Crashes to desktop and can`t defend himself/call for backup?
Happened to me once; power surge while (quite successfully) getting away from someone.
Given the stigma about logging out of PvP, I prefer to have the ship hang around and get blown up. I'd rather be podded than the irritation of the antagonist haranguing me about it for God knows how long.
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2006.01.25 17:12:00 -
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i killed a frieghter once, he was afk in aunenen, i couldent exactly ransom him, made me mad that he didnt drop anything
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.01.25 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kery Nysell
Originally by: Superbus Maximus *snip*give us our hard earned items!*snip*
Yeah, really hard to launch some ammo his way.
And you were a gang killing a lone freighter, if I read was you said correctly ... soooooo hard ...
Well, in all honesty, there could be some work involved in killing a freighter, something like maybe 1/100th of the work (and hours) needed to fill it ...
Try being a pirate nuff said...
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Salsa
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Posted - 2006.01.25 18:13:00 -
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The one thing that comes to mind as to why it doesnt drop loot is there are no cans big enough to fit all the equipment that survived the explosion. They would have to change the can system which is why I think they set it to not drop anything.
If they change the jetcan size things would get ugly (at least I think so). So they would have to create a special can just for the big ships to allow that much loot to fit.
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