TL;DR, you lost a miner to a gank catalyst, so you want to lock tens of thousands of players out of highsec for no apparent reason. You also want CONCORD to pod them, confiscate rather than just explode ships, put measures on every single gate in highsec to stop them from DARING to play the game in a way that you don't, and a whole host of other draconian measures.

How DARE people like something you don't? or try to play in a sandbox?

HTFU.

EVE is a single shard environment and CCP has constantly and regularly said that their intention is for PvP to be possible everywhere at any moment. CONCORD is there to punish, but not prevent ganking.

Please search the forums next time -- you will find many, many instances of people asking for various ways to make hi sec safer. Virtually none of the suggestions have been implemented and basically come down to specific ships being too easy to pop rather than blanket changes to security.

Appreciate your feedback but you are misunderstanding the idea and feature. The tens of thousands you refer to have tens of thousands that think opposite as well. Please refrain from posting if you only want to criticise.

I am a nullsec player. Explain to me exactly why I should be locked out of highsec. Explain why multiple playstyles need to be removed from the game. Explain why everyone who does not play the way you want them to needs to be punished.

Please refrain from posting ideas if you cannot defend them.

Ok, then lets move all Concord activities with the exception of the Customs Police to Lo-Sec.

Put a EULA mandated ban on all accounts including associated accounts (alts) for players who commit any aggressive acts in Hi-Sec including players involved in bumping incidents, bumper and bumpee, taking place outside of station perimeters (be careful driving now).

Leave null as it is.

PA

We all know that there are three different types of space for players;

• You have Null Sec where almost all and most PVP take place. This is a enter at your own risk space.

• You have Low Sec which is something between PVE and PVP, basically don't fly with one eye closed.

• You hace High Sec for all players that rather not PVP and focus on content that is out of scope for conflict.

There is a belief amongst some players, and has been since shortly after Eve began that people should get to decide both what they do *AND* what is done to them.

These are the people who say things like "I want to play Eve... but without the ganking"

I believe that there is a misunderstanding of the game. Eve *is* the ganking, Eve *is* scamming.. Sure there's the mining and missions but any space game could give you that. I played text based BBS games (Tradewars, Yankee Trader, etc) that gave a similar game play to that.

The primary purpose of Eve is that yes, you do get to decide what you do, but you never ever get to decide what someone else can do, even if that someone means you harm.

To say you want any part of Eve without ganking is to say you don't actually like Eve.

Any ship you undock in Eve is lost to the winds, otherwise what's the point?

Unfortunately I think you misunderstand the security ratings and what they actually mean.

high security space != safe space
It means if you perform a criminal act you will be caught and punished for it.

>Concord to install surveillance equipment at each Stargate that connects from Null/Low Sec to High Sec and all High Sec Stargates. The purpose of the surveillance is to alert Concord when a pilot enters who is not wanted in High Sec Space. Concord will initiate a boarding procedure and escort the pilot out of High Sec space which includes confiscating the Ship. If the Pilot flees, Concord will initiate a Chase with the authority to destroy the ship and kill the pilot.

>The technology available allows blocking certain ship types from accessing acceleration gates. This technology could be used to secure High Sec from allowing ships belonging to Pilots with a history of High Sec violance, thus, the pilot cannot use a High Sec stargate.

When a pilot violates High Sec law, not only should the pilot's ship be destroyed but the pilot should be killed or arrested and fined. If arrested the pilot's ship should be confiscated.

The higher security status the victim has the more focus is given towards the penalty received for attacikng this pilot in High Sec space.

Concord reaction time is to slow, the loss for an unarmed miner for instance will always be greater than the loss for an attacker. Concord to hire more pilots and be more active in High Sec Space.

This entire thread is based on a few misconceptions.

Just for the record:
Highsec is a PVP area. The entirety of EVE is. If you don't like to PVP, find another game.
Concord is there to punish players who engage in crime. They are not there to protect Hi-sec residents from PVP.

Faction police already attack criminals and low-security status residents of New Eden. This may be more flavorful but is no different than what we already have. Players DO need some chance of getting through the police in order to preserve the sandbox. If anything, concord is already too powerful.

This isn't a terrible idea, but it's unbalanced by itself. There would need to be a special type of highsec jump bridge to bypass this, to preserve the sandbox.

Criminals can be podded in highsec. Concord does not kill anyone. If you wish to kill your attackers, you are permitted to. I do like the idea of ships being "confiscated" instead of destroyed, but how do you determine which happens? And how do they get it back? Also, gankers ships being destroyed stimulates the economy.

This is a good idea. It's also been suggested that Hi-security players should get a faster response from concord when attacked. Though this offers an unfair advantage to players like me who have a pre-rebalance >5.0 security status.

Concord spawns continually. The more miners ganked in an area, the more concord will spawn in that area (until they despawn). This makes rapid-ganking of numerous ships in the same area very difficult. It's already in place.

Ok, I can buy that but what is the point of having High Sec, Low Sec and Null Sec, then it should just be space, no concord and fly at your own risk?

all rule in hi sec are ment to be broken, so no you wont be safe in hi sec get use to it

OP... the point of high-sec is to make unwanted combat have consequences (either you pay for a war dec or you pay with your ship and security rating)... not prevent it outright. Beyond punishing offenders, CONCORD will do nothing to help you or gain retribution. Those aspects of the game lies in player hands.

Also... everything you do in the game affects everyone else. That ore you mine could be going to my enemies or undercutting my friends' profits on the market.

All of Eve is "Fly at your own risk" the various Security spaces just mean different risks for different activities.

I can understand your thoughts and I do agree with you but what is happening today is that Corporations who have no room in Null Sec are being forced into High Sec. Sooner or later and please quote me in the future, bigger Corporations will start ganking High Sec Asteroids Fields and Ice Belts demanding "mining fees" to be paid for safe mining. This in return will build a corrupt system where pilots that are non-aggressive are being forced to pay a Corporation to mine in a High Sec Solar which eliminates the reason of having players non-corporated. This will force players to join bigger corporations that can provide two things.

1. Safe Mining

1. Ship Reimbursement

Rapid ganking has occured today, even with Concord in place multiple mining ships were destroyed in gallante space.

Security Status is something that takes time to build and there should be a benefitial chart that gives you valued perks for investing time in impoving your security status.

I do experience that sometimes it would be wise to join a bigger corporation that can provide you with the calm that perhaps is deserved from the pilots that do not wish to PVP. PVP is an option and agreeable to be less in High Sec space, however, the less experienced today is not good enough. There needs to be a stability that benefits all interests.

Security Status is something that takes time to build and there should be a benefitial chart that gives you valued perks for investing time in impoving your security status.

The trick is to just give nothing to gankers and they'll run out of money to gank.

The problem with this is PLEX. Personally I get no joy from ganking miners but the things I enjoy doing, I'm willing to buy PLEX to do them.

Some people *really* enjoy killing for the sake of killing and PLEX buys a lot of killing.

This entire thread is based on a few misconceptions.

Just for the record:
Highsec is a PVP area. The entirety of EVE is. If you don't like to PVP, find another game.
Concord is there to punish players who engage in crime. They are not there to protect Hi-sec residents from PVP.