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A Research Alt
Perkone
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.10.04 00:30:00 -
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I just tried doing a relic site for the first time. I found the system core, cracked it open, and...wait why is all of my loot flying away and disappearing? What? What is this crap? How am I supposed to open these little cans while they fly away from me? Why aren't they appearing on my overview? Why are they flying away from me in the first place?
Seriously, CCP, loot spew is an unfun and stupid mechanic. What does it add? An irritating and difficult grab for all of the already-earned loot before it disappears in a few short seconds. That's it.
Hacking minigame: fun. Loot spew bullshit: not fun.
Get rid of loot spew. It's an unfun pain in the ass for no gain. The best you can do is not lose. The worst is lose everything. Hooray unnecessary penalty mechanics. |
Rengerel en Distel
1972
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Posted - 2013.10.04 00:36:00 -
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Nod, pretty much the feeling of most players. CCP disagrees. Guess who wins?
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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A Research Alt
Perkone
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.10.04 00:39:00 -
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"Hey let's play a game at the end of this fun minigame where we take away some of what you just got depending on how well you do. Oh, and it's deliberately obtuse and annoying."
Gee thanks CCP. |
bloodknight2
Talledega Knights
PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
285
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Posted - 2013.10.04 00:39:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Nod, pretty much the feeling of most players. CCP disagrees. Guess who wins?
The players can simply unsubs. If you continue sending money to CCP, they will continue doing this kind of...things. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16751
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Posted - 2013.10.04 00:42:00 -
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A Research Alt wrote:Seriously, CCP, loot spew is an unfun and stupid mechanic. What does it add? A second tier of competition for the best cans, even if that competition is simply against your own knowledge about what is good and what isn't. Alternatively, a reason to do sites in teams of more than one.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
A Research Alt
Perkone
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.10.04 00:47:00 -
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About the only thing I'm being penalized on is my inability to read all of the can names before they disappear because the mouseover is slow for the names to appear and the can names won't show up on my overview.
Loot spew is terrible and should be taken out. And don't give me the "run it in teams" crap. You know what nobody wants to do in this game? Sit there and watch somebody else hack something for a couple minutes so they can grab a can or two for half its value.
I made a mistake thinking CCP had done a good job changing hacking and relic sites. They suck so bad I'm not bothering with them anymore. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle
Tactical Narcotics Team
1284
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Posted - 2013.10.04 01:06:00 -
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Loot spew...
EVE Online is the ONLY...anything anywhere that does that?
I don't understand what in hell CCP was thinking to be honest...
Name one sci-fi anything that after anyone hacks a database everything goes flying into space randomly...
Support my (possibly dumb) Ideas!!
Worm Rebalance!!! |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
398
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Posted - 2013.10.04 01:08:00 -
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Your mistake was not researching first really. Once you know the system you can get 90% of the value from a site solo quite easily. And the mouse over certainly isn't that slow, it isn't FPS twitch response needed. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
1779
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Posted - 2013.10.04 01:14:00 -
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Maybe if you had read and found that you weren't supposed to try and do them alone and taken a friend like was intended then you wouldn't be making whine threads on the forums.
The mechanic allows you to play solo if you choose, but it rewards you if you play in a group like intended.
Deal with your choices and move on whiner. |
A Research Alt
Perkone
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.10.04 01:24:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Maybe if you had read and found that you weren't supposed to try and do them alone and taken a friend like was intended then you wouldn't be making whine threads on the forums.
The mechanic allows you to play solo if you choose, but it rewards you if you play in a group like intended.
Deal with your choices and move on whiner.
Grath lecturing people about having friends, heh |
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Lipbite
Express Hauler
875
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Posted - 2013.10.04 01:34:00 -
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You forgot to mention whole activity is barred behind scanning mini-game which alone can repel most humans. |
Sharanelle
Pixel Navigators
13
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:01:00 -
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Also, will the new loot grabber thingy and diddlyhopper help in this situation?
... |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2146
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:09:00 -
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If you cargo scan the hacking object before hacking it, you can see what's inside it and figure out which types of minicans to tractor in. That way, you can ignore the useless ones and only get what you need. Loot spew is perfectly fine.
EDIT: Use this website to determine which minicans to tractor. :)
http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1309/Neural-Boost_minicontainer-loot-distribution.pdf
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
76
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:10:00 -
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Yeah, I intensely dislike the Super Mario Galaxy loot spew mechanic. And I've been saying that, along with quite a few other folks, since it was launched. Apparently someone at CCP uses an alternate definition of "fun" that I am unaware of.
I still do sites... usually when someone else really wants to. I don't mind the scanning and the hacking, but the loot spew just irritates me. Enough that I do sites far, far less than I would otherwise. And that is despite being apparently rather good at it... it's like being really great at bleaching grout. It's still not fun.
Edit - Yes, I use the cargo scanner. That in no way improves the fun. At. All. |
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:18:00 -
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Yea about as much fun as fixing a broken septic tank. No fixing a broken septic tank is more fun than grabing the spewing loot cans. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
267
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:26:00 -
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The loot spew doesn't bug me. On average I pull 20m per site in null - and I lose more value to having T1 hacking tools than I do to spew.
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Garandras
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
11
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:27:00 -
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You know if you don't like the mechanic there are alot of other options out there for you to do |
Ryhss
Dry Atomic Fusion
Gatekeepers Universe
110
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:30:00 -
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I quit hacking when they introduced this crap. Sold most of my hacking mods.
I have been known to spam trade windows with spammers of Jita. It is quite satisfying when they convo you screaming about reporting me for it. It normally provokes me to open another trade window with them. |
Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:30:00 -
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Beat me to it. Quoted because, exactly this ^
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
A Research Alt
Perkone
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:33:00 -
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Garandras wrote:You know if you don't like the mechanic there are alot of other options out there for you to do
And I'm doing them. |
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Cheng Musana
BetaMax Beta
3
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Posted - 2013.10.04 02:42:00 -
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its simple to be honest. Relic sites= materials/parts/data
cause you only get T1/T2 salvage from materials/parts and data containers have here and there a worthwhile BPC. Oh and dont bother with data sites, they are worthless. |
Disdaine
424
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Posted - 2013.10.04 03:02:00 -
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Welcome to CCP's idea of new and compelling content iteration.
Clickfest rng minigame with a loot spew whackamole bonus round.
It's their way of giving explorers two more mid slots. |
OldWolf69
IR0N.
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
74
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Posted - 2013.10.04 03:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:A Research Alt wrote:Seriously, CCP, loot spew is an unfun and stupid mechanic. What does it add? A second tier of competition for the best cans, even if that competition is simply against your own knowledge about what is good and what isn't. Alternatively, a reason to do sites in teams of more than one.
Cool, cool, i can already see 10 man gangs plundering sites in hisec, to get like 1m loot.
...on a second tought, i must presume that's their way to have it in RL, and they do it how realistic they can, ingame? |
Dalto Bane
Knights of the Posing Meat
The Obsidian Front
10
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Posted - 2013.10.04 04:32:00 -
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Ryhss wrote:I quit hacking when they introduced this crap. Sold most of my hacking mods. Grath Telkin wrote:Maybe if you had read and found that you weren't supposed to try and do them alone and taken a friend like was intended then you wouldn't be making whine threads on the forums.
The mechanic allows you to play solo if you choose, but it rewards you if you play in a group like intended.
Deal with your choices and move on whiner. You sir, are an idiot. Not everyone has in game friends, and prefer doing things solo.
I guess you prefer not getting all the loot then. Grath only speaks the truth. It was clearly stated during introduction that more reward would come to the ones that do this with others. This mechanic was to promote teamwork. This is a MMO after all. Go make some space friends bro, and get your loots! |
Infinity Ziona
Hot Drop Buns
462
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Posted - 2013.10.04 05:12:00 -
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Its not that hard to get what you like. Simply click ones when its green. Wait for the tractor. Click once again. Click twice to chase a can. Zoom out a long way before hack makes it much easier. I can usually grab every can that's worthwhile.
Of course I don't hack anymore, I discovered combat sites and their virtually guaranteed faction BS spawns and deadspace loots are easier to run than L4's even Ninja so now I'm a deep space Ninja milking them for all they worth.... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3463
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Posted - 2013.10.04 05:15:00 -
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A Research Alt wrote:I just tried doing a relic site for the first time. I found the system core, cracked it open, and...wait why is all of my loot flying away and disappearing? What? What is this crap? How am I supposed to open these little cans while they fly away from me? Why aren't they appearing on my overview? Why are they flying away from me in the first place?
Seriously, CCP, loot spew is an unfun and stupid mechanic. What does it add? An irritating and difficult grab for all of the already-earned loot before it disappears in a few short seconds. That's it.
Hacking minigame: fun. Loot spew bullshit: not fun.
Get rid of loot spew. It's an unfun pain in the ass for no gain. The best you can do is not lose. The worst is lose everything. Hooray unnecessary penalty mechanics.
Actually, OP, no offense, but one of the major points of this game is that you CAN'T have nice things.
And if you do have nice things, it's because the other players are slacking.
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Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
3544
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Posted - 2013.10.04 05:35:00 -
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Loot spew and the hacking game finally added an interactive component to the profession sites. Sitting there and waiting for rng to happen was the ultimate of unfun, and after countless of failed rolls you were penalized with empty can, more rats or garbage.
Loot spew at least is fun, and it's not exactly hard to get all the valuable cans, especially now with the queue mechanic.
The problem with exploration is scanning and the overlay, scanning is simply too easy, just a mindless step that can be done with minimum skills in any ship. It would make more sense to just have the sites appear as beacons on the overview. People complained about tedium, and now CCP turned it into unnecessary tedium.
Notify-á-á You cannot do that while warping. |
Ryhss
Dry Atomic Fusion
Gatekeepers Universe
110
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Posted - 2013.10.04 05:50:00 -
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Why did CCP "fix" what wasn't broken? idiots
I have been known to spam trade windows with spammers of Jita. It is quite satisfying when they convo you screaming about reporting me for it. It normally provokes me to open another trade window with them. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp.
Northern Associates.
147
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Posted - 2013.10.04 08:04:00 -
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A Research Alt wrote:I just tried doing a relic site for the first time. I found the system core, cracked it open, and...wait why is all of my loot flying away and disappearing? What? What is this crap? How am I supposed to open these little cans while they fly away from me? Why aren't they appearing on my overview? Why are they flying away from me in the first place?
Seriously, CCP, loot spew is an unfun and stupid mechanic. What does it add? An irritating and difficult grab for all of the already-earned loot before it disappears in a few short seconds. That's it.
Hacking minigame: fun. Loot spew bullshit: not fun.
Get rid of loot spew. It's an unfun pain in the ass for no gain. The best you can do is not lose. The worst is lose everything. Hooray unnecessary penalty mechanics.
i scan always first to know wich cans to grab , and pref you need someone with you to help with it
The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Julius Priscus
153
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Posted - 2013.10.04 08:05:00 -
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I my self am a maxed out exploration pilot.
I did it once and hated it..
imo. the better you do hacking etc.. the less cans there should be and they should contain more items from exploration.
how every if you do really badly there will be several cans if not dozens.
-»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
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