Therein lies the difference between us. I come from a tradition of bluntness in public matters. I'm used to being told (bluntly) that I'm wrong and don't know wtf I'm talking about :) .

I think there is honesty in bluntness. I despise pussyfooting around.

obviously, because a few scorpions aren't going to **** the game up like giving 400 supercapitals to goons potentially would.

again, obviously the issue is because it has already happened and we simply don't want it to happen again. left unchecked it clearly has the potential to head that way again.
that's why we're posting.

the slippery slope argument is perfectly valid. we've gone from nobody being singled out as a favourite and showered with gifts to a situation where ccp secretly handed out a few billion isk worth of "inferior ships that refine to 1 unit of trit" to some people and therefore it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the situation could get worse and to simply accept that CCP should be handing out gifts to anyone they please without a mention is absurd.

I dunno, wouldn't the equivalent of Somer getting 450bil be the same as Goons getting 400 capitals?

I'm talking in logic terms. Slippery slope arguments lose, period.

"The Slippery Slope is a fallacy in which a person asserts that some event must inevitably follow from another without any argument for the inevitability of the event in question. In most cases, there are a series of steps or gradations between one event and the one in question and no reason is given as to why the intervening steps or gradations will simply be bypassed. This "argument" has the following form:

1. Event X has occurred (or will or might occur).
2. Therefore event Y will inevitably happen.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because there is no reason to believe that one event must inevitably follow from another without an argument for such a claim. This is especially clear in cases in which there is a significant number of steps or gradations between one event and another."

Without real evidence that CCP will "slip" further in this direction, you are simply making a losing argument. You end up trying to convince people of what CCP will do, when all you have to do is point out what they have already done without any sign of regret.

No, it's not me projecting. It's me giving you the benefit of the doubt. If you're not actually trying to persuade people, you're just being abusive and dismissive for the hell of it. That's even worse. You're still not participating in the discussion GÇö you're just trolling.

Dear Jenn aSide,

You are obviously ranting and raving just for the sake of trolling.

Your bluntness and "realist" ways are nothing more than you trolling in here when you have nothing of value other than you guys are crying. And you don't care unless it is to make fun of those supposedly crying.. That equals as to being a troll not a realist or being blunt.. you are just an *******..

I do, my wife's company does a lot of things (like pro bono work) and doesn't advertise the fact at all.



Don't even get me started on that. That's why I tell my boss I don't want his job after he retires because he has to deal with a lot of "perception" issues and I'm not suited to face those. If there is misconduct you act, if their is not, screw it, but people go on about how it all "looks" on my job. Major major pet peeve of mine, but something I have to deal with working for who I do.

CCP isn't a town government or even a publicly held firm. it's a private business and they should be free to do as they choose as much as consumers are free to not give them money. But most of the people on here will still give them money even if the come up and say "we gave them ships, deal with it".

People just can't withhold judgement till facts are established (not talking about this in game incident, but the one you talk about with your neighborhood).

it's irrelevant if it will actually happen.

the point is there shouldn't even be a chance for it to happen. that's why we're posting.
anyway, me pointing out that posting the same **** over and over is irrelevant is what got the last thread locked, and i need sleep. therefore, i'm done with you missing the point and posting the same thing over and over.

*shrug* i don't deal in capital ships.

CCP shouldn't just be handing large amounts of assets to either, though.

These forums need a "Hide posts and posts containing quotes" option...
I would hide Jenn ASides posts, but that would not even hide a quarter of the relevant posts as way to many people are jumping in to quote and reply feverishly :S
(And no, I don't really want to ignore Tippia...)

My relevant post got stealth deleted =(

Damned thing took forever to type.

I noticed. I blame the illuminati.

All these threads which at start are created to fight for a better EVE are turning into a pathetic bickering because you all keep answering to Jenn aSide's trolling page after page. You are as idle as him or what ?
YOU ALL are giving him a huge power, the power to dirty all what we are fighting for.
It's your fault, people. Now let's all stop to answer to his provocations and you will see that the threads will start to looks intelligent beyond the first 3 pages.
I'm really upset, i can't imagine how people who spend their time to play the cunning ones because "EVE is all about being cunning" can permanently fall into Jenn aSide's traps. You cunning ? You all deserve to be scammed with Ishukone ships.
I have nothing against the fact that everyone write their opinions here, Jenn aSide included. I'm all for democraty, but democraty is not giving to one person so much space. And YOU give him so much space. By doing that, our common credibility is stained.
Or maybe through him, it's you, by answering endlessly, who want more space than the one post which should be enough to express your opinion ? Maybe Jenn aSide is only the reflection in your mirror.

But no, you arne't entitled to fair treatment, you are entitled to that you and the other party agree to.

You can voice your opinon as a customer, but so can others. As a customer, I'd like to tell CCP that I think what they did is perfectly acceptable and none of my business (also, thanks for making the game and death to high sec).

Damned conspiracies!

Sorry about that. Your post probably got deleted as it was a reply to a post that was deleted for breaking the forum rules. And no, CCL is not part off the illustrious Illuminati, so it is not a conspiracy either.

That said, I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

But trolling is a art.

Sorry about that. Your post probably got deleted as it was a reply to a post that was deleted for breaking the forum rules. And no, CCL is not part off the illustrious Illuminati, so it is not a conspiracy either.

My relevant post got stealth deleted =(

Damned thing took forever to type.