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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:50:00 -
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Hey everyone! The EVE Community Team is launching a new initiative designed to help new players get into EVE and learn how the world works faster and more efficiently. We're calling this initiative the Avengers Initiative. Wait, no. I mean it's the New Player Training Sessions!
Read all about it in this dev blog. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Ransu Asanari
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:02:00 -
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Thank you. Thank you. THANK YOU.
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
620
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:11:00 -
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Interesting ! G££ <= Me |

Bubanni
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
780
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:11:00 -
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I wouldn't mind providing a little information for the rookies about how to fly tackle, interceptors and such
like. 1: How to tackle without dieing really really fast 2: how to hold tackle long enough for your friends to arrive, and not die really really fast 3: and maybe even how to not die really really fast when your in a small ship :D Supercap nerf - change ewar immunity https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194759
Module activation delay! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1180934 |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1228
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:11:00 -
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For this to work you have to inform those "new players" such thing will take place, don't think many of them read devblogs. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2855

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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:13:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:I wouldn't mind providing a little information for the rookies about how to fly tackle, interceptors and such
like. 1: How to tackle without dieing really really fast 2: how to hold tackle long enough for your friends to arrive, and not die really really fast 3: and maybe even how to not die really really fast when your in a small ship :D
Expanding this to include player instructors is something we're looking to do eventually. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
436
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:14:00 -
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My firs few days in EVE a joined such a session of an Alliance named Rookie Empire. It was hell of a blast, learned lot of things. Being 3 days old i ventured with them into 0.0. The thrill i had, omg was fantastic. I succeeded to get back n highsec by myself following some basic tips they gave me about warping to planets near gates first, scanning etc. It was the longest hour of my life and the longest 20 jumps ever :DDD BALEX is recruiting -----> tinyurl.com/oscmmlv |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2856

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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:16:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:For this to work you have to inform those "new players" such thing will take place, don't think many of them read devblogs.
We will be doing this by advertising them in-game via rookie corporations and the Rookie Help Chat. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:16:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:For this to work you have to inform those "new players" such thing will take place, don't think many of them read devblogs.
If you find a way to notify them about this event, good job! Even better if they attend! Keep up the good work! |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2856

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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:16:00 -
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Zloco Crendraven wrote:My firs few days in EVE a joined such a session of an Alliance named Rookie Empire. It was hell of a blast, learned lot of things. Being 3 days old i ventured with them into 0.0. The thrill i had, omg was fantastic. I succeeded to get back n highsec by myself without dieing, following some basic tips they gave me about warping to planets near gates first, scanning etc. Was so proud of myself. It was the longest hour of my life and the longest 20 jumps ever :DDD
That sort of experience is exactly the type we are aiming for with these sessions, particularly the organized fleets! EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Bubanni
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
780
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:22:00 -
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im sure most people would be okay with a pop up window an hour before you guys do your training session :) just to make sure your audiance is as big as it can get btw Supercap nerf - change ewar immunity https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194759
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2201
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:25:00 -
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How will chat trolling and disruptive behavior that is not specifically against the EULA be treated during the sessions? Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |

Menaiya Zamayid
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:27:00 -
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As much as I love these kinds of things. 17:00 UTC is horribly early for the US folks. I am still at work at that time . While I don't expect CCP To be up that late.
A good US TZ Session would be great. Could someone set something like this up too?
(Also, is there a way to search for corps with Timezones that fit Eastern US... I have to search twice: once only till 8pm my time and second 00:00 -> till I fall asleep time)
While I am an "Experienced" (as in I've been blown up more times than I care to recall) tackler. There's still things that I learn every day, especially after returning from a break.
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
4239

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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:28:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:How will chat trolling and disruptive behavior that is not technically against the EULA or ToS be treated during the sessions?
Probably depends on if you're just cracking jokes or trying to ruin the event :). And a bunch of other factors. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2858

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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:28:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:How will chat trolling and disruptive behavior that is not technically against the EULA or ToS be treated during the sessions?
If people are being disruptive in the chat channels, we will kick them from the channel. Other disruptive behavior will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis and it's really hard to give a blanket response that will cover all possibilities. In almost all cases we will warn players in-game that they are being disruptive and give them a chance to stop before we move on to having the GMs get involved. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2858

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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:30:00 -
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Menaiya Zamayid wrote:As much as I love these kinds of things. 17:00 UTC is horribly early for the US folks. I am still at work at that time .  While I don't expect CCP To be up that late. A good US TZ Session would be great. Could someone set something like this up too? (Also, is there a way to search for corps with Timezones that fit Eastern US... I have to search twice: once only till 8pm my time and second 00:00 -> till I fall asleep time) While I am an "Experienced" (as in I've been blown up more times than I care to recall) tackler. There's still things that I learn every day, especially after returning from a break.
We definitely want to do this. Right now we don't have the resources to do so, but if they prove to be popular we'll find a way to do things at a time that's better for our very large US following. This is part of the reason we are recording all the sessions and will be holding all our organized activities on weekends. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
2695
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:34:00 -
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Interesting...
This sounds like our PvP-Basic class....
You can use our public wiki for some material if you like.
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2859

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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:36:00 -
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It was definitely inspired by stuff people like you guys do! In fact, there's a heavy possibility we'll be in touch in the near future. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
640
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:37:00 -
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Awesome news for newer players is this initiative.
Im sure I'll be on tap to help welcome them to eve with open gun ports. Mangala Undocked |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2201
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:43:00 -
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Sounds good to me! Will these events eventually graduate into real lowsec roams or life fire exercises?
May I suggest the use of spawning rookie-pirate NPCs as demonstration targets for new players to test their mettle?
CCP and GMs have a lot more power to manipulate the game world to demonstrate various aspects and situations than player instructors do. :) Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2859

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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:47:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Sounds good to me! Will these events eventually graduate into real lowsec roams or life fire exercises?
May I suggest the use of spawning rookie-pirate NPCs as demonstration targets for new players to test their mettle?
CCP and GMs have a lot more power to manipulate the game world to demonstrate various aspects and situations than player instructors do. :)
Certainly! Our PVP Fleet on the 16th will be a live fire exercise with roaming. Can't reveal where we're going, but traveling into low sec or 0.0 is certainly a possibility.
And yes, part of the reason we're running these is because our devhax mean we can do things like spawn NPCs when needed. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2067
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:58:00 -
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now thats seriously cool eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |

Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers Dirt Nap Squad.
218
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Posted - 2013.10.09 18:06:00 -
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First, let me start by completely seriously saying this is a very nice idea and I support it.
However let me point out the irony here:
Out of game, high stakes, high profile raffles for out of game prizes like trips to Iceland - we'll contract this out to an in game entity with questionable player trust even though they don't even run out of game raffles/lotteries.
In game, otherwise low risk PR wise PvP training exercises, held completely in game - we'll ignore the multitude of well trusted entities that already do this sort of thing.
Just a little backward no? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9795
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Posted - 2013.10.09 18:13:00 -
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That's pretty cool and interesting.
/c
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Daravel
12
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Posted - 2013.10.09 18:47:00 -
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If you're seriously worried about people griefing the training sessions why not jump all the participants over to Jove space? Then jump back for the roams.
Also, +1 to a message an hour beforehand. If I were you, I'd send out mails to everyone (possibly e-mails as well), at least one message and spamming the help channels. The more exposure you get, the better. |

He dares
Mock Squad The Mockers AO
7
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Posted - 2013.10.09 18:48:00 -
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Why not help groups like eve uni and agony do this they have been doing a long time anyway and probably know the mechanics better than most devs they are also practiced at dealing with large classes? |

Konrad Kane
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2013.10.09 18:49:00 -
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This is a great idea, well done. |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
1940

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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:01:00 -
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He dares wrote:Why not help groups like eve uni and agony do this they have been doing a long time anyway and probably know the mechanics better than most devs they are also practiced at dealing with large classes?
Part of what we are looking to do is to invite guests from the likes of EVE Uni, Agony, RvB and others to come along and be guest lecturers and instructors. Down the line we would like to see this seminar program incorporated into a completely player driven venture. That is the ideal goal.
CCP Navigator -Community Manager |
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Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
443
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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:11:00 -
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It should be pointed out that Goonwaffe holds these for itself like every other week or, and has been doing this for years as well.
I used to run the Logistics class, like how fly a scimitar. |

Kivena
EVE University Ivy League
20
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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:21:00 -
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Dey took arr jerbs!  |
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Troy Tyrion Lanister
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:33:00 -
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Geat concept.
....and yes, yes the tutorials SUCK... and i don't mean just suck in a normal "they are bad" way, they suck in a way that causes time-space distortions in the area around them. |

Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
172
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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:37:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:
It was definitely inspired by stuff people like you guys do! In fact, there's a heavy possibility we'll be in touch in the near future.
Time to put an alt into Agony to get a scorpion, I guess
On a more serious note, this is a really cool initiative, I hope you guys will keep it going for the long term. I know when I started eve I felt completely lost, would have been awesome for something like this to exist. I hope you guys record this in some way and integrate it into say, the end of the tutorial where many people are left with the feeling of "ok, what now??"
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1348
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:14:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:For this to work you have to inform those "new players" such thing will take place, don't think many of them read devblogs. We will be doing this by advertising them in-game via rookie corporations and the Rookie Help Chat.
not sure if rookies use the captains quarters or not... but you could advertise the training sessions on the tv... you know show a schedule and stuff. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

glepp
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
103
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:58:00 -
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Very nice initiative, CCP! Made of win.
Just don't put us out of business :) |

Kelduum Revaan
Malkuth Technologies Inc.
2066
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:17:00 -
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Nine years, guys. Nine years. Guest classes, open to all. Recordings for classes if you missed them, video walkthroughs, and a well-documented wiki.
E-UNI has been doing this for nine years, and staying out of any political BS so that everyone can benefit from its teaching.
Nice to see CCP finally recognising all the work everyone has put into all that, like the 6 years I spent running it as a second full-time job... oh, wait.
CCP, I am dissapoint.
glepp - IMHO, there's little chance of them putting Agony out of business. At least though attempts to teach... Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4713
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:29:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Nine years, guys. Nine years. Guest classes, open to all. Recordings for classes if you missed them, video walkthroughs, and a well-documented wiki.
E-UNI has been doing this for nine years, and staying out of any political BS so that everyone can benefit from its teaching.
Nice to see CCP finally recognising all the work everyone has put into all that, like the 6 years I spent running it as a second full-time job... oh, wait.
CCP, I am dissapoint.
glepp - IMHO, there's little chance of them putting Agony out of business. At least though attempts to teach... Well, since they made of point of saying that organizations like yours directly inspired the effort, they hope to contact and include you soon, and want to be able to support efforts like this with their Dev tools in ways a player driven only organization can not... I'd say you owe them an apology for your crap attitude. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4713
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:33:00 -
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This is actually somewhat brilliant.
It's not recreating what players are already doing... it's using CCP's abilities to enhance and make the concept much more accessible to new players... and leverage your Dev tools to make the training much more effective (including time efficient) than it could be otherwise.
The sooner you can coordinate your efforts with worthy player organizations the better, and really, they should view this opportunity as a god send. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Cameron Freerunner
Long Jump.
44
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:36:00 -
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I'm happy to see this. It's a great idea...
...that Agony had several years ago.
I poke, I prod, I kid, I love
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Jinrai Tremaine
Dronetech Prime
35
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:00:00 -
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This is a fantastic idea, EVE has needed this for a long long time (no offense intended to players like Kelduum who've been filling in for EVE's terrible NPE for many years). I look forwards to seeing how this develops and hopefully incorporates veteran players.
On a somewhat related note, on those occasions where I've just created a new account I enjoy hanging out in Rookie Help and providing advice and answering questions from the newbies there, but of course after 30 days I can no longer get access to the channel. Whilst I like helping rookies, I'm not willing to continuously roll trial accounts just for the privilege of doing so (plus I assume that doing so creates unnecessary clutter on the database) but I'm also not willing to jump through the hoops or take on the full responsibilities of becoming an ISD. Is there any way to create a middle ground where veteran players can gain access to Rookie Help to provide help to rookies, without the powers or teal text of the ISD volunteers? I know there are at least a few other players who would like to be able to help out when they have free time but don't want the more formal commitment of becoming an ISD to do so. |

Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:01:00 -
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Well done, finally some cool initiative. Please ensure that you make these sessions as professional as possible. Do not allow trolling at all and record the sessions for sharing on youtube and eve main site. This is going to be fantastic. You should include views of group activities, from mining, explorations, pvp, FW, PI, etc...
Ideally once you have these done, you could also get the learning agents to point the player at the videos and live sessions.
Best would be if you record the sessions internally getting some CCP Devs to play the noobs, this way it's going to go smooth.
And btw I think that if you can package the lessons to look like a product that users can download or access through the account management as 'special' knowledge, bonus item, then it could even get more appreciated.
I wish you good luck! |
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Maximus Andendare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
623
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:18:00 -
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CCP Navigator wrote:Down the line we would like to see this seminar program incorporated into a completely player driven venture. That is the ideal goal.
Don't you ALREADY have a completely player driven venture from E-Uni, RvB, Brave Newbies, Agony, etc.? I think the "fix" here is just to educate new players about the importance of leaving the NPC corps and moving into an actual training corp already in game. Honestly, I don't see how these seminars are any different than classes that E-Uni offers, for example, especially considering now that they are free to everyone to attend.
Step onto the battlefield, and you're already dead, born again at the end of the battle to live on and fight another day.
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Jinrai Tremaine
Dronetech Prime
35
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:26:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Nine years, guys. Nine years. Guest classes, open to all. Recordings for classes if you missed them, video walkthroughs, and a well-documented wiki.
E-UNI has been doing this for nine years, and staying out of any political BS so that everyone can benefit from its teaching.
Nice to see CCP finally recognising all the work everyone has put into all that, like the 6 years I spent running it as a second full-time job... oh, wait.
CCP, I am dissapoint.
glepp - IMHO, there's little chance of them putting Agony out of business. At least though attempts to teach...
Kelduum, don't let the bittervetness overwhelm you. Yeah, this is long overdue, but at least it's happening now and props to CCP for recognising the benefits of it. Whether or not CCP acknowledge you/E-Uni by name (and I very much hope they do; if anyone deserves faction scorpions...) the fact that they're doing this at all is a testament to the success that EVE Uni, Agony Unleashed and the various other open training corps have had over the years.
If you really feel the need to show that player organisations can do this better than CCP then (IMHO at least) the best way to do so is to get involved and prove your point; that way the rookies still benefit from expert tuition. |

Maximus Andendare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
623
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:35:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:We will be doing this by advertising them in-game via rookie corporations and the Rookie Help Chat. See, this again is confusing. There are a lot of corps in game that already function as training centers, but it doesn't appear that you'll be advertising their services (or even a link to a website that lists them all), presumably because you don't want to show favoritism to one corp over another, yet you'll spawn hundreds of billions of isk for SOMER Blink. Confusing, CCP, that you won't help legitimate institutions that enrich the game itself, instead opting to support Eve's online casino. If new players don't last long enough from being new--normally by getting into one of the recognized training corps--then they'll never get around to playing blink and funneling GTC sales to you. :-/ Step onto the battlefield, and you're already dead, born again at the end of the battle to live on and fight another day.
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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
431
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:45:00 -
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Cat Herding 101 |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
13046
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:47:00 -
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Quote:Track: Player vs Player Combat October 15, 17:00 UTC GÇô Modules October 17, 17:00 UTC GÇô Fitting Your Ship October 22, 17:00 UTC GÇô Earning ISK October 24, 17:00 UTC GÇô The Overview and UI October 29, 17:00 UTC GÇô Piloting Your Ship October 31, 17:00 UTC GÇô Skills November 5, 17:00 UTC GÇô Crimewatch (Featuring live demonstrations) November 7, 17:00 UTC GÇô Combat Basics November 12, 17:00 UTC GÇô Teamwork November 16, 17:00 UTC GÇô PVP Fleet November 18, 17:00 UTC GÇô Progression: WhatGÇÖs Next? Now this is all fine and great and I sincerely hope you have much success as well as wish you the very best.
However, I'd like to point out that not all new players want to do PvP content, some like doing PvE content. It seems that the first half of your list (October) could also benefit those who want to do PvE content but the title of the seminars (Player vs Player Combat) will probably discourage them from participating.
Now I realize new players are hard pressed to do competent ship fits due to lack of knowledge about various modules / ship fitting and It's great that you're addressing those issues in the seminars. In my opinion those issues go hand in hand with the lack of training Core Fitting Skills which I believe should be reviewed right from the start.
Now I don't know what you'll be covering in the Skills seminar but it might be wise to split that up into 2 parts (Part 1 Basic / Part 2 Advanced) and have the Basic (Core Fitting Skills) seminar first before getting into Modules and Ship Fitting.
A couple of other things I noticed too is no seminars listed for Clones (Jump & Medical), Implants or Standings / Security Status. I guess Standings / Security Status would be covered in the Crimewatch seminar. Anyway, I definitely think Clones should be addressed early, especially about keeping their Medical Clone updated.
Well, that's my 2 ISK worth of opinion. Hope you have good luck with the program.
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
282
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Posted - 2013.10.09 23:02:00 -
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Mangala Solaris wrote:Awesome news for newer players is this initiative.
Im sure I'll be on tap to help welcome them to eve with open gun ports.
Just don't mistake a show of respect as a hostile act. That went badly for the EAS Prometheus. |

Tex Bloodhunter
DEFCON. The Initiative.
8
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Posted - 2013.10.09 23:06:00 -
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I'm thinking this would become pretty fun if experienced players were given a team of rookies. The teams would then compete alliance tournament style but obviously more focussed on having a good time than on winning. The leg work (team allocation, API keys, teamspeak/mumble setup) however would need to be done before - so null sec folks can just jump clone in, give out a few fittings, have everbody buy stuff in jita and then get right to FCing / PVP. |

Stay Thirsty
The Chosen Children
9
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Posted - 2013.10.09 23:06:00 -
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I totally support this initiative.
And to those that have sand in their underwear over the fact CCP is doing this internally versus using one of the "Rookie" corps, there are very solid reasons.
1. This allows new players to learn from someone they inherently trust. When you get into Eve some of the first things you will hear is don't trust anyone and beware of someone trying to scam you into a corp. You have no idea if Eve Uni is a good corp or just another con job. Therefore a bunch of new players just try to go it alone. By CCP being the instructor, it is likely more players will get involved.
2. There is no political drama. And don't say the organizations are drama free.....because that is just naivety. If there wasn't you wouldn't have to put in your .api, have all your alts known, etc. Anytime you have a corp you have drama, politics, financial considerations, etc. This will allow a player to stay somewhat outside of this while trying to learn.
3. CCP has more tools at their disposal than a player corp does, like their dev-hacs which allow random spawns, fleet jumps, etc.
4. CCP has already stated they will involve some of the other player corps when the timing is right. So just sit back, have a drink, and do your thing until you are called to help.
In the meantime, I look forward to seeing how these go. If nothing else maybe I will start a new toon just to play along.....you never know everything and I am sure these will be very fun and informative. |

Freelancer117
so you want to be a Hero
82
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Posted - 2013.10.09 23:22:00 -
[49] - Quote
May I suggest putting a new player in a IWS and if it survives against all the raging people in eve, we call it new eden natural selection and welcome them to them fold  Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg
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Robby Altair
31
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Posted - 2013.10.09 23:27:00 -
[50] - Quote
New Player Training Sessions are a great idea. With hard work the sessions should be very helpful to new players.
"In my day, we had to use the EVE University Class Library, and take those excellent courses from Agony Unleashed."
I sure the E-UNI basic, RvB, and Agony basic fleets will be no problem at all. Good hunting. 
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Sabriz Adoudel
Compulsory Euthanasia
960
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Posted - 2013.10.10 00:09:00 -
[51] - Quote
Excellent idea.
Can I suggest a session on 'What to do when you lose a ship" (covering saving your pod in high/low and also the significant differences in null); and also a session on fighting smaller and larger ship classes than yourself.
As an example of the latter - something on how a solo cruiser pilot can react to catching a battleship, and also how that cruiser pilot might try to handle a frigate.
A final suggestion - Saving your ship. ECM drones, gate cloaks, deaggression - all the different ways to escape a battle you cannot win. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. Say NO to GM-player collusion - Boycott SOMER Blink |

ps3ud0nym
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
112
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Posted - 2013.10.10 00:09:00 -
[52] - Quote
This is a fantastic idea as long as it isn't a one off. If this series of classes were run on a regular basis it would be tremendously beneficial. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Compulsory Euthanasia
960
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Posted - 2013.10.10 00:16:00 -
[53] - Quote
Kelduum Revaan wrote:Nine years, guys. Nine years. Guest classes, open to all. Recordings for classes if you missed them, video walkthroughs, and a well-documented wiki.
E-UNI has been doing this for nine years, and staying out of any political BS so that everyone can benefit from its teaching.
Nice to see CCP finally recognising all the work everyone has put into all that, like the 6 years I spent running it as a second full-time job... oh, wait.
CCP, I am dissapoint.
glepp - IMHO, there's little chance of them putting Agony out of business. At least though attempts to teach...
Correct me if I am wrong, but EVE Uni places requirements on behaviour of its members, right?
As in you can't use deception in market PVP (scamming etc), and can't fly recklessly during wartime, and can't have a history of being an AWOXer? (The last one is a pretty sensible opsec requirement).
This event can be for people that fit the EVE Uni mould, for people that fit the Brave Newbies mould, and for people that have not made up their mind yet. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. Say NO to GM-player collusion - Boycott SOMER Blink |

Kelduum Revaan
Malkuth Technologies Inc.
2067
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Posted - 2013.10.10 00:20:00 -
[54] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Well, since they made of point of saying that organizations like yours directly inspired the effort... They have been saying the same thing since befew E-UNI existed, making vague promises and suggestions they will do things in the future.
There comes a time when you just get tired of waiting for that bus, and decide to walk... Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University |

John Caffeine
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
13
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Posted - 2013.10.10 00:30:00 -
[55] - Quote
CCP Navigator wrote:He dares wrote:Why not help groups like eve uni and agony do this they have been doing a long time anyway and probably know the mechanics better than most devs they are also practiced at dealing with large classes? Part of what we are looking to do is to invite guests from the likes of EVE Uni, Agony, RvB and others to come along and be guest lecturers and instructors. Down the line we would like to see this seminar program incorporated into a completely player driven venture. That is the ideal goal.
Will you be inviting guest lecturers only from ingame educational institutions like Eve-Uni, or will it be possible for other alliances and corporations to volunteer as well?
If you aim to make it a player driven program: do you think it will be a team of ISD volunteers or a program run by ingame entities? |

Kelduum Revaan
Malkuth Technologies Inc.
2067
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Posted - 2013.10.10 00:30:00 -
[56] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, but EVE Uni places requirements on behaviour of its members, right?
You can scam, gank and be a **** in local as much as you want, as long as its not traceable back to E-UNI, as EVE players have a long memory and it could negatively affect the other members.
This is why everyone has multiple character slots, after all...
And none of this prevents anyone joining any of the public classes, posting on the forum, chatting on mumble, listening to the recordings of going through the resources on the wiki. Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University |

Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers Dirt Nap Squad.
219
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Posted - 2013.10.10 00:51:00 -
[57] - Quote
CCP Navigator wrote:He dares wrote:Why not help groups like eve uni and agony do this they have been doing a long time anyway and probably know the mechanics better than most devs they are also practiced at dealing with large classes? Part of what we are looking to do is to invite guests from the likes of EVE Uni, Agony, RvB and others to come along and be guest lecturers and instructors. Down the line we would like to see this seminar program incorporated into a completely player driven venture. That is the ideal goal.
CCP doing this ensures that it is done correctly and fairly.
I mean, to hand this over to a purely player driven, in game entity would show favoritism toward that entity. And while all of those entities might be honest and forthright, to show any of them favoritism over another would be a conflict of interest. CCP of course, would like to avoid any perceived conflict of interest.
Additionally, tying an event or promotion to an in game player run organization might also make some players feel uncomfortable participating, since it de facto forces an involvement with that player entity in order to get involved and players should not have to join a player run corporation or website to be eligible, or even support CCP's endorsement of them to be eligible.
Wow. You guys are so smart. Glad you are in charge. LOL. |

Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
282
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Posted - 2013.10.10 01:09:00 -
[58] - Quote
Stay Thirsty wrote: 2. There is no political drama. And don't say the organizations are drama free.....because that is just naivety. If there wasn't you wouldn't have to put in your .api, have all your alts known, etc. Anytime you have a corp you have drama, politics, financial considerations, etc. This will allow a player to stay somewhat outside of this while trying to learn. .
Inserting relevant comic about E-UNI recruitment practices here:
http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120625 |

Stay Thirsty
The Chosen Children
9
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Posted - 2013.10.10 01:39:00 -
[59] - Quote
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Stay Thirsty wrote: 2. There is no political drama. And don't say the organizations are drama free.....because that is just naivety. If there wasn't you wouldn't have to put in your .api, have all your alts known, etc. Anytime you have a corp you have drama, politics, financial considerations, etc. This will allow a player to stay somewhat outside of this while trying to learn. .
Inserting relevant comic about E-UNI recruitment practices here: http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120625
Exactly my point......by that time many of them have either concluded it is a scam (their perception) or not worth the hassle.
The cartoon is funny, and very appropriate for any of the organized corps. |

Chigurh Friendo
Stay Frosty.
7
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Posted - 2013.10.10 02:46:00 -
[60] - Quote
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:For this to work you have to inform those "new players" such thing will take place, don't think many of them read devblogs.
Great point. Broadcasts in Rookie Help and/or mails to younger players could help to disseminate the information schedule.
Ubat Batuk wrote:Please ensure that you make these sessions as professional as possible. Do not allow trolling at all and record the sessions for sharing on youtube and eve main site.
Ideally once you have these done, you could also get the learning agents to point the player at the videos and live sessions.
Agreed.
Wouldn't it be great if these sessions were recorded and broken down into searchable topic-by-topic video segments hosted by CCP? Further, wouldn't it make sense if the help tooltip (and/or Aura) actually linked to these resources? Perhaps, these video segments could be included within Evelopedia as embedded resources...
If CCP is going down this route, then the man-hours involved in making a reference that can be consulted more broadly at a later date would probably warrant the time investment involved on CCP's part. Moreover, it would canvas a broader audience than what could effectively be reached by discrete appointment-style training sessions. |
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Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
111
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Posted - 2013.10.10 03:03:00 -
[61] - Quote
nice i read the full article, sounds like a good idea, i could have used such hands on do this dont do that training when i was starting out. Also the fitting, thinking back to my ship with overdrive injector + expanded cargohold or my rail/blaster exequror... even the fact i didnt know about orbiting in combat.
When i started eve i only knew 1 thing for a fact, which was to not touch something that was yellow - not much for a rookie to start with lol |

Cameron Freerunner
Long Jump.
45
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Posted - 2013.10.10 03:17:00 -
[62] - Quote
Kelduum Revaan wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Well, since they made of point of saying that organizations like yours directly inspired the effort... They have been saying the same thing since before E-UNI existed, making vague promises and suggestions they will do things in the future. There comes a time when you just get tired of waiting for that bus, and decide to walk... Edit: I wish CCP luck in this - they will need it. It was literally a full time job when I ran E-UNI, and I suspect they will have a significant problem finding enough volunteers to keep this running it for no reward. Unless they are paying them all in Gold Scorpions. Quite possibly the most interesting addition to the conversation.
You'll want to update your sig, btw. |

Greygal
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
167
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Posted - 2013.10.10 05:27:00 -
[63] - Quote
Love the idea. Let me know how I can help! :)
Greygal PVP-University Lead Agony Unleashed What you do for yourself dies with you, what you do for others is immortal. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4386
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Posted - 2013.10.10 06:38:00 -
[64] - Quote
A very nice initiative!
I wish this existed when I started myself. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2088
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Posted - 2013.10.10 06:43:00 -
[65] - Quote
My inbuilt sense-maker machine wants to ask:
How will noobs know that they should be reading devblogs in general, and specifically this devblog, in order to learn that there will be live training sessions?
And failing that, will the events be advertised at the new players channel?
(Anyway, from now on I'm going to brag about how i do play a game that requires that the devs themselves teach to players how to play it... EVE is that hardcore, harr harr! ) The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Dojen Kobunra
Council for Universal Law and Creative Trade
0
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Posted - 2013.10.10 06:46:00 -
[66] - Quote
Hope that will help rookies, not to give up EVE, after been raped on their search for a corporation. Like Aura told me, in the last lesson "pilot, now go and look for a corporation".
That training parties should not only help rookies, to learn how to enjoy the games in the sandbox, but also give CCP some ideas how to improve or at least repair Auras intelligence.
I will watch it, to see if there are also training lessons for pilots who prefer building ships instead of shooting all they can. Creating artificial intelligence and drafting spacetime maps is not a game, its a job for the whole humanity. |

voetius
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
94
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Posted - 2013.10.10 08:24:00 -
[67] - Quote
Sounds good, all I would like to say to CCP is please have a think about "after the class" and some directions you can point people in such as the Agony classes (if people want more training in that area e.g.) or E-Uni, Brave Newbies, RvB etc. |

Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
643
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Posted - 2013.10.10 08:25:00 -
[68] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:My inbuilt sense-maker machine wants to ask: How will noobs know that they should be reading devblogs in general, and specifically this devblog, in order to learn that there will be live training sessions? And failing that, will the events be advertised at the new players channel? (Anyway, from now on I'm going to brag about how i do play a game that requires that the devs themselves teach to players how to play it... EVE is that much hardcore, harr harr!  )
Event will be advertised in rookie chat, help chat, npc corp chats, as well as potentially ingame news announcement and other means. So even newbies not seeing this devblog "should" get some form of notice. Mangala Undocked |

Zappity
Kurved Space
500
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Posted - 2013.10.10 09:05:00 -
[69] - Quote
Alright, who are you and what have you done with OUR CCP?
Excellent idea. I'd love to see a lowsec edition to get noobs out of highsec. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
893
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Posted - 2013.10.10 10:03:00 -
[70] - Quote
How about creating training PvP arenas where people could use free pre-made ships and fittings? ( I'm getting tired of the following phrase: ) Just like it's planned for Star Citizen. |
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columbo miner
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
2
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Posted - 2013.10.10 10:22:00 -
[71] - Quote
This is a great idea, When I initially started playing Eve I only lasted a month or so i didn't get hooked until the second try. New player training would help a great deal imo.
It took me well over a year before i started reading dev blogs and forums, playing guides were only introduced to me by corp mates. introduce them to dotlan and eft etc. The new game launcher has made some of this information a click away, great work.
Identifying roles for the low skilled PvP pilot is also a good one. Fast tackle, EWAR, Scout, etc. Sooner you identify a ship line path you want to follow the better... i have a a lot of early misplaced SP which could have been avoided with the correct guidance.
My advice is when in doubt train some drone skills ;) |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
12063
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Posted - 2013.10.10 10:47:00 -
[72] - Quote
voetius wrote: Sounds good, all I would like to say to CCP is please have a think about "after the class" and some directions you can point people in such as the Agony classes (if people want more training in that area e.g.) or E-Uni, Brave Newbies, RvB etc.
I believe that directing new players to these organisations is part of the program as planned.
1 Kings 12:11
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Sabriz Adoudel
Compulsory Euthanasia
961
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Posted - 2013.10.10 10:49:00 -
[73] - Quote
columbo miner wrote:This is a great idea, When I initially started playing Eve I only lasted a month or so i didn't get hooked until the second try. New player training would help a great deal imo.
It took me well over a year before i started reading dev blogs and forums, playing guides were only introduced to me by corp mates. introduce them to dotlan and eft etc. The new game launcher has made some of this information a click away, great work.
Identifying roles for the low skilled PvP pilot is also a good one. Fast tackle, EWAR, Scout, etc. Sooner you identify a ship line path you want to follow the better... i have a a lot of early misplaced SP which could have been avoided with the correct guidance.
My advice is when in doubt train some drone skills ;)
If in doubt, train basic tanking skills and core skills is my advice to newbies.
Can't go wrong with having the skills to fit either a t2 armor or t2 shield tank (as the ship you are using may require).
Then pick one race's ships and experiment with different classes. Took me a while to find out that I prefer cruisers. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. Say NO to GM-player collusion - Boycott SOMER Blink |

Zappity
Kurved Space
502
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Posted - 2013.10.10 10:54:00 -
[74] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:However, I'd like to point out that not all new players want to do PvP content, some like doing PvE content. It seems that the first half of your list (October) could also benefit those who want to do PvE content but the title of the seminars (Player vs Player Combat) will probably discourage them from participating.
PvE is easy to get into. Everybody starts with missions.
PvP is where the tutorial love is needed. I did PvE for the first 18 months and it took a lot of effort to get onto the PvP track. PvP is MUCH more rewarding and should be supported from the start. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
647
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Posted - 2013.10.10 11:00:00 -
[75] - Quote
Dev access to a new type of chat channel which can show up in your battle info scroll but would persist for longer amount of time would help both these type of classes, live events and Sisi testing. How hard would it be to implement? |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2879

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Posted - 2013.10.10 11:09:00 -
[76] - Quote
Directing players toward EVE Uni, Agony Empire, Brave Newbies, RvB and other corporations is what will be covered in our "Progression" sessions at the end of each track. We are going to go with very very basic instruction, stuff that I believe would be considered entry level even for people like EVE Uni. Additionally, we want players to get exposed to social activity when many of them would not be without this initiative. We love the rookie-friendly organizations and we certainly will be supporting them with this and other things in the future.
As for the PvE vs PvP, we will be covering PvE-related activities in more depth with future tracks. I believe our next one will likely cover Exploration and how to do it. We also have plans to cover topics such as Resource Gathering, Manufacturing, and Trading. We know a lot of people don't want to PvP, never will PvP, and nothing we do will get them to willingly PvP. But they might be drawn into the idea of building their own manufacturing empire, so we want to encourage and teach that as well.
As for training rookies being a full time job, well. Yes. I am an employee of CCP and this will be pretty much a full time job for myself and the others involved in the initiative. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4387
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:11:00 -
[77] - Quote
Mangala Solaris wrote:
Event will be advertised in rookie chat, help chat, npc corp chats, as well as potentially ingame news announcement and other means. So even newbies not seeing this devblog "should" get some form of notice.
A suggestion: put a nice splashy clickable title about this on the launcher, so everyone can see it! Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
431
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:16:00 -
[78] - Quote
Can I bring my drake? It has a cloak and warp stabs already so what else do I need and where do I go? |

Vince Mctavern
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:21:00 -
[79] - Quote
This is a great idea. Just one question, does the training for 'new players' just include people who are genuinely new to the game, or does it also include amnesiac illiterates like me who have been playing for 4 years but still know nothing?  |

MainTrain
7th Deepari Defence Armada SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.10.10 14:02:00 -
[80] - Quote
My big questions, and likely already asked (at work so ability to scroll through pages of forums is limited)
1. What is to stop people from coming in and interrupting, suiciding folk etc etc 2. Is there potential for this to be held in polaris to prevent/reduce such issues (would be cool) 3. Are non trial/first month players invited? I for one would enjoy covering things officially to make sure ive not missed anything out! 4. Will fitted ships/modules/etc be provided for players? I would imagine some new players will struggle to purchase things?
If these have |
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Zappity
Kurved Space
506
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Posted - 2013.10.10 14:13:00 -
[81] - Quote
You should definitely do one about being podded. Yes, I am aware that many people would volunteer to 'assist' as teachers but I am being serious.
Your first podding can be traumatic and it would be good to explain about medical clone updates, jump clone services, lowsec gate camps etc. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
222
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Posted - 2013.10.10 14:50:00 -
[82] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Menaiya Zamayid wrote:As much as I love these kinds of things. 17:00 UTC is horribly early for the US folks. I am still at work at that time .  While I don't expect CCP To be up that late. A good US TZ Session would be great. Could someone set something like this up too? We definitely want to do this. Right now we don't have the resources to do so, but if they prove to be popular we'll find a way to do things at a time that's better for our very large US following. This is part of the reason we are recording all the sessions and will be holding all our organized activities on weekends.
CCP Eterne wrote:Certainly! Our PVP Fleet on the 16th will be a live fire exercise with roaming.
The 16th is a Wednesday. Perhaps in Iceland that qualifies as "weekend", but in the USA it isn't.
MDD  |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4716
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Posted - 2013.10.10 14:53:00 -
[83] - Quote
MainTrain wrote:My big questions, and likely already asked (at work so ability to scroll through pages of forums is limited)
1. What is to stop people from coming in and interrupting, suiciding folk etc etc 2. Is there potential for this to be held in polaris to prevent/reduce such issues (would be cool) 3. Are non trial/first month players invited? I for one would enjoy covering things officially to make sure ive not missed anything out! 4. Will fitted ships/modules/etc be provided for players? I would imagine some new players will struggle to purchase things?
If these have 1: They have already said no disruption of that nature will be tolerated. Warning first, followed by appropriate GM intervention as the situation warrants. One assumes that goes from banning people from the chat channel up to "possibly" including bans and/or penalties if they refuse to back off.
2: No idea, but it sounds like this will be held on tranquility for ease of access.
3: I think anyone is invited to attend.
4: Good question. They could do it either way, although it would only be necessary for those sections where actual combat is going to happen. Most likely these first classes will only require a frigate (even a noob frigate) to go over the mechanics. More advanced classes involving combat might find a need, although they'll have to be careful that people aren't simply there to milk a free ship. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Menaiya Zamayid
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.10.10 15:49:00 -
[84] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:MainTrain wrote:My big questions, and likely already asked (at work so ability to scroll through pages of forums is limited)
1. What is to stop people from coming in and interrupting, suiciding folk etc etc 2. Is there potential for this to be held in polaris to prevent/reduce such issues (would be cool) 3. Are non trial/first month players invited? I for one would enjoy covering things officially to make sure ive not missed anything out! 4. Will fitted ships/modules/etc be provided for players? I would imagine some new players will struggle to purchase things?
If these have 1: They have already said no disruption of that nature will be tolerated. Warning first, followed by appropriate GM intervention as the situation warrants. One assumes that goes from banning people from the chat channel up to "possibly" including bans and/or penalties if they refuse to back off. 2: No idea, but it sounds like this will be held on tranquility for ease of access. 3: I think anyone is invited to attend. 4: Good question. They could do it either way, although it would only be necessary for those sections where actual combat is going to happen. Most likely these first classes will only require a frigate (even a noob frigate) to go over the mechanics. More advanced classes involving combat might find a need, although they'll have to be careful that people aren't simply there to milk a free ship.
It is an unwise player who deliberately defies CCP on the field. They have more ways of capture than you have escape. |

Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
408
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Posted - 2013.10.10 15:50:00 -
[85] - Quote
Bubanni wrote:im sure most people would be okay with a pop up window an hour before you guys do your training session :) just to make sure your audiance is as big as it can get btw
This! |

Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
643
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Posted - 2013.10.10 15:58:00 -
[86] - Quote
MailDeadDrop wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Menaiya Zamayid wrote:As much as I love these kinds of things. 17:00 UTC is horribly early for the US folks. I am still at work at that time .  While I don't expect CCP To be up that late. A good US TZ Session would be great. Could someone set something like this up too? We definitely want to do this. Right now we don't have the resources to do so, but if they prove to be popular we'll find a way to do things at a time that's better for our very large US following. This is part of the reason we are recording all the sessions and will be holding all our organized activities on weekends. CCP Eterne wrote:Certainly! Our PVP Fleet on the 16th will be a live fire exercise with roaming. The 16th is a Wednesday. Perhaps in Iceland that qualifies as "weekend", but in the USA it isn't. MDD 
16th November. Mangala Undocked |

Seismic Stan
417
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:33:00 -
[87] - Quote
Will in-channel voice comms be used?
It's not clear from the devblog, there is mention of the sessions being "recorded", so I'm guessing at least the ability to listen in will be required. Will new players require a mic? EVE Online: The Text Adventure --áGameSkinny Columnist - Freebooted --áTech 4 News |

Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
2702
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:21:00 -
[88] - Quote
MainTrain wrote:My big questions, and likely already asked (at work so ability to scroll through pages of forums is limited)
1. What is to stop people from coming in and interrupting, suiciding folk etc etc 2. Is there potential for this to be held in polaris to prevent/reduce such issues (would be cool) 3. Are non trial/first month players invited? I for one would enjoy covering things officially to make sure ive not missed anything out! 4. Will fitted ships/modules/etc be provided for players? I would imagine some new players will struggle to purchase things?
If these have
1.) If someone disrupts the fleet... kick them from TS, Kick from Fleet, and primary the fool. Then tackle his POD and hold it there until you are done lecturing, at which point you sacrifice his pod while giving thanks for the target of opportunity!
2.) Such issues are part of the game, and learning how to deal with it is too.
3.) Probably... but that's up to CCP.
4.) I hope not! A big part of learning to PvP is learning to accept the inevitable loss of your ship. A frigate is very cheap, and you can fit a very combat capable frigate for less than 1.5m isk. I see no reason for CCP to supply you with frigs.
True story, we once had a 50-man Frigate gang smartbombed to death in highsec while running one of our classes.. These make good stories, and provide excellent discussion points.
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LoftyLazerus Thesiant
Lofty Aspirations
0
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:39:00 -
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     I'm almost a year old, but you can guarantee I'll be watching the Videos. THNX |

deAdder en Thielles
Running with Knives Nexus Fleet
0
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Posted - 2013.10.14 17:19:00 -
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Is this session happening? I could not find a way to 'accept' the session... |
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scatter gun
OldballsAnd Friends Industries
14
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Posted - 2013.10.14 17:43:00 -
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so ive got a question that i havent seen be fielded before
why is this channel not listed under 'Help' section of the channel list? if its a hit it can stay if it flops, cant it be removed?
i have friends who made accounts months ago, and due to operational commitments in Afghanistan, has an extremely limited knowledge of the game, is no longer in any of the starter channels(NPC Corp or Rookie Help) and short of reading concord billboards or his news feed on login page, it seems extremely unlikely he would have found this if he hadnt gotten a hold of me on the FaceBook... and if he was looking for help channels, he would not have found any information about these training sessions. unless its broadcast through all CCP owned channels.
on the subject of billboards... why is there no news feed in the station services window... another point that information could be relayed without requiring one to be in space(specially if under war dec)... and dont tell me that CQ is the only place you want players to find the news feed inside a station. |

Zappity
Kurved Space
532
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:02:00 -
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^^ I would love to see billboards revamped entirely. The one near gates could be very useful both for official news and player-sponsored adverts. Of course they would have to be much larger and higher res. Cost would depend on how busy the system is.
Or make them player-built and destructible with only a suspect flag! Great for recruitment. And put one behind the spinning ship (should probably make this optional or the vets would have an absolute conniption).
Um, I got a bit carried away there. You can probably tell I would like to see them changed. So much wasted immersion possibility... Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

Sahriah BloodStone
Takmahl Dynamics
16
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:29:00 -
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This is a fantastic idea!
I have been playing since 2007 and have recently been thinking about creating videos for new players including indepth looks at weapons, tanking, careers and other various thinks.
Lo and behold 2 days after writing up some documentation for this you guys announced new player training sessions.
I would love to get involved in any way i can and help CCP help new players out. I am not a well known community figure. Im not part of any awesome alliance like EvE-uni, but i would still love to get involved.
How does one go about this and are there any requirements?
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oOReikaOo Michiko
Brains of Britain
69
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Posted - 2013.10.15 08:45:00 -
[94] - Quote
Just invited a new player to the game...
My first piece of advice "Rule #1 , Dont trust anyone" |

arria Auscent
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:10:00 -
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Did you guys at CCP steal this idea off us? we do noobie training at least once a month, taking them to null to hunt people down and teach them how to fight/fly.
maybe we could offer our training to players outside of CAS if our big guys like it.
oh yes we do missions and mining ops to train them too |

Cali Cesaille
Lisa's Legion
0
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:54:00 -
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I think new player training is a great idea, but having it at 1700 UTC on a Friday is an odd choice. Why not make it a weekend day so that folks who work can join? That's 10AM Friday where I live (US Pacific time). I know these things take time to plan, so all the more puzzling why a more appropriate time wasn't chosen. |

Meddler Loutte
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.16 17:42:00 -
[97] - Quote
I live in Hawaii and this puts the training at 7a.m. I am getting ready to work then.
Is there a link to where these sessions will be available to those who cannot attend the seminars? |

David Kir
Statement of Intent
292
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:37:00 -
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Will older players be able to join the PVP fleet?
I am completely serious, no durka typhoon b*****it. |

Disco Soliloquy
Major Kong Freight
12
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Posted - 2013.10.17 02:36:00 -
[99] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Hey everyone! The EVE Community Team is launching a new initiative designed to help new players get into EVE and learn how the world works faster and more efficiently. We're calling this initiative the Avengers Initiative. Wait, no. I mean it's the New Player Training Sessions! Read all about it in this dev blog.
Where are these pages on EVElopedia? It is the 16th, so I assume the first session is in the bag. |

Leta Lilitu
EVE University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:03:00 -
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Oh my Jesus you guys should contact VICE magazine right away.
They could do an article like this:
There are some games, way back when, that you needed a manual for. a whole book. Nowadays, games are so stupidly simple, that you can learn the basics in the furst tutorial mission, or just on the fly.
In EVE, we are so hardcore.. We are the grittiest of gamers, powering through the hardcoreiest of games that ever there was, EVE ONLINE! WE.... aree....... EVE!!!! DOOFDOOFDOOFDOOFDOOF
em. wat i meant was, this is the first game where the game designers need to take potential recruits and train them in a boot camp, in order to be able to play the game.
I love it.
Come pLayY. srs, VICE Magazin |
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Starrza
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.10.31 18:43:00 -
[101] - Quote
I am few days new and would love to watch the sessions that I missed. Is there a link to those available yet?  |

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
648
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Posted - 2013.10.31 20:46:00 -
[102] - Quote
Starrza wrote:I am few days new and would love to watch the sessions that I missed. Is there a link to those available yet?  Search NPTS in the evelopedia or just click https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Special:Search?search=npts&go.x=0&go.y=0
These are the hard copy info sets presented in the class not sure where the recordings will show up. |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
3649

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Posted - 2013.10.31 20:55:00 -
[103] - Quote
Starrza wrote:I am few days new and would love to watch the sessions that I missed. Is there a link to those available yet?  There is!
You can check the EVElopedia category "New Player Training Sessions" for a list of all training sessions so far.
You can also check the New Player Training Sessions in the New Citizens forum section for further information and links. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager |
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
648
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Posted - 2013.10.31 21:02:00 -
[104] - Quote
Are you going to clean up the category page for that link or do you want me to. |
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