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Rells	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:32:00 - [1] Now there is an announcement that I would love to see. I have been plazing with my new XBox360 and it is a great piece of hardware. After attenting Game Developer's Conference in Europw this year, I had the pleasure of talking to one of the senior people in charge of the 360 and he enlightened me that it is a DirectX based platform. I could only think that it could not be that tough to cross compile the game to the 360 from the PC. Naturally the game would require the 360 with the hard drive for client patches. Perhaps even 360 subcribers could order a new DVD, or perhaps download a burnable image, with the full build of the game at periodic intervals. Personally I think the ability to order that CD would be good for the PC platform people as well. In addition, the game UI would have to be converted for the 360. This wouldnt affect the PC interface but would be specifically for the 360 version of the game. There are certainly enough buttons on the 360 to manage this. In addition, for chatting the user can connect a keyboard to 360 or use a built in voice over IP solution with a headset that connects to voice servers. Integration of VOIP into Eve would be a great thing anyway. I know there will be some flamers and malcontents that will make silly statements about maturity of XBox360 owners. All of that is rubbish of course. In every community there are idiots; the PC Unreal and Counterstrike communities are beyond description for immaturity whereas some of the communities on the Xbox360 are great fun. People make such statements simply out of bias, desire to flame and malcontent tendenceies. Those that plaz Eve on the 360 will have to deal with the math and the other intellectual facets of Eve which will keep the vast majority of the immature players playing something else. The potential for CCP would also be huge. It would be only the second MMOG on a console and the console audience is just plain HUGE. There are hundreds of thousands of potential customers out there. In addition, the advertising for the PC version of Eve would be great. Its just a win-win situation for Eve. For the cost of hiuring a couple XBox programmers and porting the game they get a new market! Finally, since XBox programmers would have to be found anew, this would have minimal, if any, impact on the features of the game for the PC players. I know that there will still be some selfish players that will demand all dev resources on their pet peves but the rational people in the forum would have to agree that this would be an excellent move for CCP with FAR FAR more potential revenue than porting Eve to Mac or Linux. -- Rells ◄ Replacing Local with a practical alternative.
Rells	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:32:00 - [2] Now there is an announcement that I would love to see. I have been plazing with my new XBox360 and it is a great piece of hardware. After attenting Game Developer's Conference in Europw this year, I had the pleasure of talking to one of the senior people in charge of the 360 and he enlightened me that it is a DirectX based platform. I could only think that it could not be that tough to cross compile the game to the 360 from the PC. Naturally the game would require the 360 with the hard drive for client patches. Perhaps even 360 subcribers could order a new DVD, or perhaps download a burnable image, with the full build of the game at periodic intervals. Personally I think the ability to order that CD would be good for the PC platform people as well. In addition, the game UI would have to be converted for the 360. This wouldnt affect the PC interface but would be specifically for the 360 version of the game. There are certainly enough buttons on the 360 to manage this. In addition, for chatting the user can connect a keyboard to 360 or use a built in voice over IP solution with a headset that connects to voice servers. Integration of VOIP into Eve would be a great thing anyway. I know there will be some flamers and malcontents that will make silly statements about maturity of XBox360 owners. All of that is rubbish of course. In every community there are idiots; the PC Unreal and Counterstrike communities are beyond description for immaturity whereas some of the communities on the Xbox360 are great fun. People make such statements simply out of bias, desire to flame and malcontent tendenceies. Those that plaz Eve on the 360 will have to deal with the math and the other intellectual facets of Eve which will keep the vast majority of the immature players playing something else. The potential for CCP would also be huge. It would be only the second MMOG on a console and the console audience is just plain HUGE. There are hundreds of thousands of potential customers out there. In addition, the advertising for the PC version of Eve would be great. Its just a win-win situation for Eve. For the cost of hiuring a couple XBox programmers and porting the game they get a new market! Finally, since XBox programmers would have to be found anew, this would have minimal, if any, impact on the features of the game for the PC players. I know that there will still be some selfish players that will demand all dev resources on their pet peves but the rational people in the forum would have to agree that this would be an excellent move for CCP with FAR FAR more potential revenue than porting Eve to Mac or Linux. -- Rells ◄ Replacing Local with a practical alternative.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:34:00 - [3] Edited by: Maya Rkell on 25/01/2006 17:34:29 You are not allowed to require the HDD. So unworkable. PS, there's been quite a few console MMO's. Look up EQOA and PSO. --------------------------------------------------------------- Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:34:00 - [4] Edited by: Maya Rkell on 25/01/2006 17:34:29 You are not allowed to require the HDD. So unworkable. PS, there's been quite a few console MMO's. Look up EQOA and PSO. --------------------------------------------------------------- Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
Kerushi	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:35:00 - [5] no mac version no linux version sure no stupid xbox version ________________
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Necrologic	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:40:00 - [7] The game would never work on a console without a keyboard, and i doubt it would work well without a mouse. Official Nos Troll
Vegati Daxx	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:44:00 - [8] God.. whats wrong with a PC?
Rells	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:50:00 - [9] Originally by: Maya Rkell Edited by: Maya Rkell on 25/01/2006 17:34:29 You are not allowed to require the HDD. So unworkable. PS, there's been quite a few console MMO's. Look up EQOA and PSO. YOu read all that, considered it, hit reply, typed and hit submit in 2 minutes? Perhaps you might try reading past the topic line for once. At any rate you are wrong according to the development manager of the XBox platform. I know you often seem to believe you know more than everyone else about every thing but if you had actually read what I wrote, you would see that I talked to the manager of the XBox platform in person. We discussed something like this. The fact is that the XBox people couldnt care less if you require the hard drive. Several XBox apps actually do. This little piece of misinformation that you have is a widely held urban legend. If it was true then there would be no reason at all to even have the hard drive because you couldnt use it. -- Rells ◄ Replacing Local with a practical alternative.
Rells	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:51:00 - [10] Originally by: Necrologic The game would never work on a console without a keyboard, and i doubt it would work well without a mouse. You can attach a keyboard to a 360 and the UI for the console version would be different. -- Rells ◄ Replacing Local with a practical alternative.
Ace Combat	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:52:00 - [11] Originally by: Maya Rkell Edited by: Maya Rkell on 25/01/2006 17:34:29 You are not allowed to require the HDD. So unworkable. Wrong, Final Fantasy XI requires the HDD, a whole 6 gig of space to boot. Quote: The game would never work on a console without a keyboard, and i doubt it would work well without a mouse. Who says you can't use a keyboard and mouse? 360 has USB ports after all, infact I use a USB keyboard in conjunction with the controller to play FF XI. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I remember the old description for Caldari.. light and nimble ships my ass. :(
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:53:00 - [12] Edited by: Maya Rkell on 25/01/2006 17:53:47 Better, I've seen the TRC's. (Unless they changed it since about a week ago) The hard disk is very useful for a number of reasons, but you cannot REQUIRE it. As usual, this can of course be set aside for enough cash, but CCP are hardly rolling in it. Rells, EVERY idea of yours is bad/unviable. Join Derisor in that. Wow, 2 of em :/ --------------------------------------------------------------- Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
Ace Combat	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:59:00 - [13] Originally by: Maya Rkell Edited by: Maya Rkell on 25/01/2006 17:53:47 Better, I've seen the TRC's. (Unless they changed it since about a week ago) The hard disk is very useful for a number of reasons, but you cannot REQUIRE it. As usual, this can of course be set aside for enough cash, but CCP are hardly rolling in it. Rells, EVERY idea of yours is bad/unviable. Join Derisor in that. Wow, 2 of em :/ Its not a bad idea at all, after seeing how well FF XI plays on the 360 (a OMG 3 year old game too), who's saying Microsoft themselves wouldn't back such a venture with a wad of cash. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I remember the old description for Caldari.. light and nimble ships my ass. :(
Takitoo	Posted - 2006.01.25 17:59:00 - [14] I remember first opening FFXI when it came out for the PC in North America. I installed and was instantly surrounded by smart people of a like mind who enjoy cooperative teamwork and who do not mind waiting patiently for rewards. Most were literate and had a genuine love for the game. Integration into the exisiting japanese playerbase went surprisingly smooth. The first question when looking for a group usually was: Do you know how to use the universal translator function ? We'll be a mixed party. Then FFXI was released for the PS2 in North Amercia. Then I was surrounded by a bunch of teenage american kids whose teamwork consisted of everyone bashing on only two targets with absolutely impractical class combinations that held everyone who was unlucky enough to be in their group back. They were impatient, illiterate and could not be bothered to learn the game. In short, they were a liability as worst and a crutch at best. Around that time the first question I got was this: Are you an NA player ? We don't want those in our groups anymore. I don't want to see that in EVE. Let's keep EVE for the people that don't look at Co-Op modes in Halo 2 think they're ready for an MMO with the complexity of EVE. ******************************************* Sei du selbst. Steh zu Dir. Die Wahrheit wird gelebt und nicht doziert.
BlackHole Bob	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:00:00 - [15] Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 25/01/2006 18:00:07 We have an 360 here since the day it launched....no way would eve port to it well at all...the UI is way to deep... Blackhole Bob www.evegathering.com Las Vegas EvE Gathering 2006 March 15th and 16th
ScoRpS	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:02:00 - [16] It would be a bold move and the server thing would need a huge overall and upgrade, and as we all know the lag issues that current numbers can generate would increase alot. Other then that I wouldnt mind seeing hordes of new players just as long as it didnt impede on my gaming experience.
Shiva79	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:09:00 - [17] Man PSO was sweet. i miss it so much
Jakk Graiseach	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:10:00 - [18] Consoles are bad, mmkay? Consoles are for games that don't require a set amount of braincells to play... Sheesh! -- There are some men that things should not come to know
Asestorian	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:17:00 - [19] This has probably been said already but I can't be bothered to read. CCP have already said they won't even make EVE for other PC platforms, because it would take too long for them to make a new client, and patch it every time, let alone making the server work with accepting different clients all the time.. therefore, what the hell makes you think they would do this for the XBOX!! Not only that, the XBOX 360 would suck badly for playing EVE, unless EVE was made into the other horrible idea that keeps being thrown around, of it being played with a joystick.. If it became popular on the XBOX, CCP would need even bigger servers anyway, because the lag would start getting bad. Sorry if this seems overly flame-like, but I'm tired of all these silly ideas about EVE on insert platform here when CCP have already said they never will. --- ---
Sebastien LeReparteur	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:25:00 - [20] I would rather see imprvement on the game is it is now then having to wait for Microsft to ajust there coding to Eve. My god I can only dread the LAG and bug it would create... On a shard server I see no troubles but that is pretty selfish (as long as it does not hurt my sand box) but then again the server are close to being lagged to death already, maybe the Asian shard will help a bit but who can tell until it happens I would pray for no Xbox version. Besides unlike FFX which is back by a huge legacy (and is mostly the only reason why it is played IMO cause it is one crappy MMO) Eve is more for a very specific type of hardcore players. You say don't think about the age/maturity of the ppl but you should keep in mind this is a rough game where you can loose much ISK in a few seconds, maybe a restricted label or parrental advisory so ppl who not whine coudl be used. But I fear the influx of ppl and the $$ of microsoft would ruin CCP stile of we by Islandish code warriors.... My 0.022 ISk
Lazerius	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:30:00 - [21] Quality above quantity. Let's keep requiring people to actually be able to operate a PC to play this game. And VOIP? Are you stupid or something? The last thing I want to hear is some immature dimwit yelling poorly articulated insults at me while playing, which will happen, several times. At least with texts we can ignore it easily. ------------ Life is like a sewer - what you get out of it depends on what you put into it. Tom Lehrer, Ancient Earth Philosopher.
Rells	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Maya Rkell Edited by: Maya Rkell on 25/01/2006 17:53:47 Better, I've seen the TRC's. (Unless they changed it since about a week ago) The hard disk is very useful for a number of reasons, but you cannot REQUIRE it. As usual, this can of course be set aside for enough cash, but CCP are hardly rolling in it. Rells, EVERY idea of yours is bad/unviable. Join Derisor in that. Wow, 2 of em :/ OK maya. Its clear that you know more than the MANAGER of the XBox platform, the lead architect, all of the F\inal Fantasy developers and everyone else involved in the XBox platform including those that actually own the system and use it. Ya ... well I think this qualifies her for the BLOCK list. Have a nice life and have fun knownign everything. Us mere mortals will do things like ask the people that make the bloody system. -- Rells ◄ Replacing Local with a practical alternative.
Sebastien LeReparteur	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:35:00 - [23] Edited by: Sebastien LeReparteur on 25/01/2006 18:37:33 Originally by: Rells Its clear that you know more than the MANAGER of the XBox platform, the lead architect, all of the F\inal Fantasy developers and everyone else involved in the XBox platform including those that actually own the system and use it. Oh my ______ (enter your divine favorite) Rells knows it all too!! Maybe we shoud lsay oh my Rell! But when you say involved in Xbox I think Mircocrap and then Bug and nooooooooooooooooo
Raem Civrie	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:35:00 - [24] But... why? Seriously, there is no good reason. EVE is too methodical, too overarching, too slow-burning for a console. --- God-King of Genitalia
Rells	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:37:00 - [25] Originally by: Lazerius Quality above quantity. Let's keep requiring people to actually be able to operate a PC to play this game. And VOIP? Are you stupid or something? The last thing I want to hear is some immature dimwit yelling poorly articulated insults at me while playing, which will happen, several times. At least with texts we can ignore it easily. Every single corp worth anything uses a VOIP solution. As for the rest of your comments and those of several others, they are merely biased, emotionalism with little basis in fact. Many XBox games take a great deal of brain cells to use, and there are jerks in all game platforms and all communities, including this one. You need only look up in this thread to see immature comments made with zero basis in fact and 100% basis in emotionalism and flaming. -- Rells ◄ Replacing Local with a practical alternative.
Sebastien LeReparteur	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:40:00 - [26] Originally by: Rells Originally by: Lazerius Quality above quantity. Let's keep requiring people to actually be able to operate a PC to play this game. And VOIP? Are you stupid or something? The last thing I want to hear is some immature dimwit yelling poorly articulated insults at me while playing, which will happen, several times. At least with texts we can ignore it easily. Every single corp worth anything uses a VOIP solution. As for the rest of your comments and those of several others, they are merely biased, emotionalism with little basis in fact. Many XBox games take a great deal of brain cells to use, and there are jerks in all game platforms and all communities, including this one. You need only look up in this thread to see immature comments made with zero basis in fact and 100% basis in emotionalism and flaming. Actualy neither have you dude and don't say we don't read your post you haven't given one construtive argument besides there are jerk every where.
Rells	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur Edited by: Sebastien LeReparteur on 25/01/2006 18:37:33 Originally by: Rells Its clear that you know more than the MANAGER of the XBox platform, the lead architect, all of the F\inal Fantasy developers and everyone else involved in the XBox platform including those that actually own the system and use it. Oh my ______ (enter your divine favorite) Rells knows it all too!! Maybe we shoud lsay oh my Rell! But when you say involved in Xbox I think Mircocrap and then Bug and nooooooooooooooooo Yes. I do know what i was told in depth by the makers of the platform. I suppose you have a more reliable source of information than the people that actually built the platform and market it? If so, lets hear it by all means. Lets have your source. -- Rells ◄ Replacing Local with a practical alternative.
Sebastien LeReparteur	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:49:00 - [28] The only experience I have is the current Eve game play which is pretty laggy and the usual we will fix this and that from microsoft, we already wait for some implementation from CCP why put a 3rd party coder in the mixt? What the other one probably reffered to was the chip mode you could install on the very first release of Xbox to modify the console for game copy and hacks... Mind you I figured out she was wrong because most app will either save data on the HD or put downloaded upgrades or mods you can actualy use with some Xbox games. But your post was a bit imperialistic you could have just pointed out her mistake and not just block her. For my opinions they where clearly written in my above post. My objection are more for practical reasons but you seam to have a optimistic point of view of the offer required to addapt a game on the UI point of view. I do have lots of experience there and take your longest estimate and do x3 this is closer to the real thing, trust me. Well you don't have to but I do have so experience there.
Winterblink	Posted - 2006.01.25 18:57:00 - [29] Originally by: Rells OK maya. Its clear that you know more than the MANAGER of the XBox platform, the lead architect, all of the F\inal Fantasy developers and everyone else involved in the XBox platform including those that actually own the system and use it. Ya ... well I think this qualifies her for the BLOCK list. Have a nice life and have fun knownign everything. Us mere mortals will do things like ask the people that make the bloody system. If you can't take the heat, don't bother posting in the first place. Warp Drive Active \| Nature Vraie
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.25 19:31:00 - [30] Sharding?? XBOX360?! Cancel your account. - CCP - New Documentation Please??

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