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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.01.25 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: Kerushi on 25/01/2006 19:35:54
 Originally by: Seleene
Sharding?? XBOX360?!
if that ever happens, i`ll play wow and not post for a month 
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Sebastien LeReparteur
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Posted - 2006.01.25 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kerushi
Edited by: Kerushi on 25/01/2006 19:35:35
Originally by: Seleene
Sharding?? XBOX360?!
if that ever happens, i`ll play wow and not post 0for a month
Well hope you like WOW they are creating a shard for the Asian market... 
Where will all of those poor BPO go?
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.01.25 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur
Originally by: Kerushi
Edited by: Kerushi on 25/01/2006 19:35:35
Originally by: Seleene
Sharding?? XBOX360?!
if that ever happens, i`ll play wow and not post 0for a month
Well hope you like WOW they are creating a shard for the Asian market...
Where will all of those poor BPO go?
it isn`t an xbox version yet, u`ll be stuck with me for some more time
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Sebastien LeReparteur
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Posted - 2006.01.25 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Sebastien LeReparteur on 25/01/2006 19:40:50
Originally by: Kerushi
Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur
Originally by: Kerushi
Edited by: Kerushi on 25/01/2006 19:35:35
Originally by: Seleene
Sharding?? XBOX360?!
if that ever happens, i`ll play wow and not post 0for a month
Well hope you like WOW they are creating a shard for the Asian market...
Where will all of those poor BPO go?
it isn`t an xbox version yet, u`ll be stuck with me for some more time
Lol I like ppl ;) I just want a shard for Xbox not us! 
Shard vs Cluster okay okay....
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Ti anna
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Posted - 2006.01.25 19:41:00 -
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AK, Imagine all the little Kiddies wanting to play then 
*Shudder*
Please, no, noooo, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Make it stop!!
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.01.25 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur
Edited by: Sebastien LeReparteur on 25/01/2006 19:40:50
Originally by: Kerushi
Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur
Originally by: Kerushi
Edited by: Kerushi on 25/01/2006 19:35:35
Originally by: Seleene
Sharding?? XBOX360?!
if that ever happens, i`ll play wow and not post 0for a month
Well hope you like WOW they are creating a shard for the Asian market...
Where will all of those poor BPO go?
it isn`t an xbox version yet, u`ll be stuck with me for some more time
Lol I like ppl ;) I just want a shard for Xbox not us!
Shard vs Cluster okay okay....
ohhh and if they try to connect to our server they get an insta perm ban 
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Insanicus
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Posted - 2006.01.25 19:45:00 -
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people who use ts in eve use it to boost coherence of gangs and fleets, NOT so that they can be screamed at by idiots, in a language they aren't going to be able to understand anyways. i'm from NA, and i love talking to and meeting all of these people from around the world, but i DON'T want to be yelled at or play with the quality of people i KNOW plays console games on this continent. the pc is a great seperator, it seperates out the people who have no patience or intelligence, and makes them go to consoles so that they can play their games without bothering the rest of us. |
Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.01.25 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Insanicus
people who use ts in eve use it to boost coherence of gangs and fleets, NOT so that they can be screamed at by idiots, in a language they aren't going to be able to understand anyways. i'm from NA, and i love talking to and meeting all of these people from around the world, but i DON'T want to be yelled at or play with the quality of people i KNOW plays console games on this continent. the pc is a great seperator, it seperates out the people who have no patience or intelligence, and makes them go to consoles so that they can play their games without bothering the rest of us.
so true 
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.25 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Edited by: Maya Rkell on 25/01/2006 17:53:47
Better, I've seen the TRC's.
(Unless they changed it since about a week ago)
The hard disk is very useful for a number of reasons, but you cannot REQUIRE it. As usual, this can of course be set aside for enough cash, but CCP are hardly rolling in it.
Rells, EVERY idea of yours is bad/unviable. Join Derisor in that. Wow, 2 of em :/
OK maya. Its clear that you know more than the MANAGER of the XBox platform, the lead architect, all of the F\inal Fantasy developers and everyone else involved in the XBox platform including those that actually own the system and use it.
Ya ... well I think this qualifies her for the BLOCK list. Have a nice life and have fun knownign everything. Us mere mortals will do things like ask the people that make the bloody system.
No, Rells, I can read their own DOCUMENTATION stating that.
There is, on re-reading, a clause about negociation for MMO's on that point.
Maybe you should get past the glittering press releases, eh? And stop claiming you had lunch with so and so and actually, y'know, read the docs?
I still think it's a bad idea.
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Pika Eadesso
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Posted - 2006.01.25 20:16:00 -
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Whee for pointless flames.
An XBOX360 version could _VERY EASILY_ work. FF11 on the 360 is not a new version of the game. It is not a port, it is THE PC version running on an emulated softwear pack. How do I know? I work daily with it.
Technically it wouldnt be very hard at all to make the 360 run an emulation program then load up Eve into that. The only catch is the UI. Basically, the WHOLE UI would have to be re-done from scratch and GOD would moving the camera AND courser be a pain. (It worked on FF11 becuase you can play the enter game without ever touching the mouse on the PC version) In theory its very easily do-able, but making it playable is another problem.
When you say voice chat would be a problem. No it wouldnt. You COULD do it the way FF11 does it and NOT have voice chat. Though the 360 Dashboard can connect to someone else on your friends list and you can cha while playing, watching a movie, etc.
So yeah, like i'v said, its very easy to do, it (in theory) could be done in minutes, but then we have the issue of controling your ship and UI, scince 360 TRC specifically states "NO MOUSE SUPPORT ON ANY TITLE" Exactly like that.
(By the way, there is NO TRC saying you can or cant require the HDD. If you don't have it, tough, no FF11 for you)
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Sykosys
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Posted - 2006.01.25 20:58:00 -
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No this is not a good idea
Lag is bad enough as it is. And with the Xbox Live the lag is so much worse. I personally don't know how you consolers can do it.
Also Eve on the XBox would prolly lose money since this game is trended more towards a mature audience. Its not fast paced or blind sided action. It won't appeal to many of the console genres.
Eve is fine on a comp.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.01.25 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Sharding?? XBOX360?!
*presses the big red button of irony*
I guess that it would be GREAT to have such things in EVE! It would promote the game to new horizons! Like the idea of putting the PvP in "PvP only" arenas and balancing the game so that everyone would use the same ship with the same setup!
OR EVEN BETTER, to sell EVE to SOE so that they can provide the game with new high-quality content and even better customer support.
*releases the big red button of irony*
Seleene, I just had a shiver on my spine when I thought of EVE in a 360. Nevermind it being sharded.
Sorry Rells, not a good idea.
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Originally by: Abdalion
Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Aknot Wat
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Posted - 2006.01.25 21:27:00 -
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+1000 for a Mac version of EVE...should be much easier now too with Mactel.
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Prydeless
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Posted - 2006.01.25 21:57:00 -
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EVE on xbox...omg that would be sooooooooooo awe....oh wait no it wouldnt. 
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2006.01.25 21:58:00 -
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its a bit difficult to smacktalk in local using only an xbox controller
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.26 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Seleene, I just had a shiver on my spine when I thought of EVE in a 360. Nevermind it being sharded.
Given the Chinese shard, that response's just FUNNY.
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Camulos
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Posted - 2006.01.26 01:25:00 -
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I play eve because I hate most console games. There are a few worth getting and I do own most of the systems.(no 360) I would cry the day eve came to 360, or any other console. Cry like a child who is forced to watch a baby seal being bludgeoned to death. So yea, no eve on any console please.
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Tekka
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Posted - 2006.01.26 02:03:00 -
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NO. Why do you people keep trying to get EVE on a console? no. no. NO!
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2006.01.26 02:44:00 -
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No, Just, no.
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Manet
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Posted - 2006.01.26 03:27:00 -
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Eve Online on Gameboy!!!!!!!
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.01.26 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Grimpak
Seleene, I just had a shiver on my spine when I thought of EVE in a 360. Nevermind it being sharded.
Given the Chinese shard, that response's just FUNNY.
yes I try forget about the chinese shard...
...dunno but it just seems wrong. Like I know that it must be done and all that but...
...blhe.. .dunno.. call it one of thos feelings that stirs you from inside.
...well it's either that or the chicken I had for dinner
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Originally by: Abdalion
Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Copine Callmeknau
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Posted - 2006.01.26 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Takitoo
I remember first opening FFXI when it came out for the PC in North America.
I installed and was instantly surrounded by smart people of a like mind who enjoy cooperative teamwork and who do not mind waiting patiently for rewards. Most were literate and had a genuine love for the game. Integration into the exisiting japanese playerbase went surprisingly smooth. The first question when looking for a group usually was: Do you know how to use the universal translator function ? We'll be a mixed party.
Then FFXI was released for the PS2 in North Amercia. Then I was surrounded by a bunch of teenage american kids whose teamwork consisted of everyone bashing on only two targets with absolutely impractical class combinations that held everyone who was unlucky enough to be in their group back. They were impatient, illiterate and could not be bothered to learn the game. In short, they were a liability as worst and a crutch at best. Around that time the first question I got was this: Are you an NA player ? We don't want those in our groups anymore.
I don't want to see that in EVE. Let's keep EVE for the people that don't look at Co-Op modes in Halo 2 think they're ready for an MMO with the complexity of EVE.
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Antzor
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Posted - 2006.01.26 04:30:00 -
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No. No, No and NO.
The last thing I want is a sudden swarm of stupid 8 year olds prancing about with their Xboxs playing a damn good game like EVE. (This is what Halo 2 is for)
I don't understand why everyone wants to see PC games for the Xbox360. Soon enough it'll be outdated and won't be able to run PC quality games. Again.
Also, EVE + Consolized (Note, SWG) = suck.
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Riffix
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Posted - 2006.01.26 04:35:00 -
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If you are going to post about this topic at all or even just reading because you have an opinion, some things to consider:
-EVE is a niche game, it is not for the broad audience. That means that CCP will never be able to market the game to the masses(the masses wouldn't play it) and there are many reasons why this is good. However, it also means that CCP, just like the creator of any niche game, has the responsibility of finding as many people who it does appeal to as possible if the game is to grow and prosper. One way of doing this is making it available in more formats.
-As has already been said, getting EVE to run on a 360 would take less coding effort than probably any other platform. The 360 uses DirectX which means that the same things that EVE relies on to run on your PC (and indeed what makes it hard to run on platforms like mac or linux) exist there. I'm not an expert on the EVE code but there are plenty of reasons to assume that once properly set up, updates to the game that function on both PC and the 360 could be produced with little (extra) effort.
-They are already making a fricking PDA version of EVE. Granted it is just to check skills, maybe chat, and do station stuff, but it is being done.
-For $400USD you can get an XBOX 360 which has the computing and graphics power to play EVE better than current PCs that would cost 3 times as much.
-As has been stated, there is no reason why you can't require players to need the 360 HD. There is also technically no reason why you couldn't require them to use a keyboard and mouse. As has been stated above as well, you can plug in such USB devices to the 360 just fine.
(In my personal opinion I think the current EVE UI and its modal windows are a horrible kludge that represents the best way the devs could deal with the complexity of their game given the technology they chose to use for it(python) and I would honestly welcome a streamline of the interface such that it COULD be used with a 360 controller. I think it would be a welcome change for both the PC and 360 crowd.)
-There is NO reason why, if they did want to use a voice system, it would have to function in ANY WAY similar to how it does in games like Halo. As has already been said voice chat in organized corps is a must and if they did include something like that, it would only makes things better and easier for the players.
-NO extra lag would result from people playing from a 360 any more than it would if they were playing on a PC. The devs have time and time again identified to us where the sources of lag are and they have also outlined what they are doing (and how much they are spending) to fix it. If you still want to whine about lag STFU and read Oveur's Blog.
-All 360 games run in at LEAST 720p High-Definition resolution and could run up to 1080i. That means that with an HD-capable TV you would be playing the game at either 1024x720 or 1920x1080 which most likely meets or exceeds what most EVE players are looking at now and it would be BIGGER overall. (this point is for anyone who thinks it would be hard to read on a TV)
-The platform does not make the gamer, the game does. People associate console gamers with immature people who like simple games because simple games are what consoles have had for a long time for various reasons. The simple fact is that if you don't have a console, that is probably because they don't have "your" kind of games, like EVE, on there. But if they did, you might come play. The other fact is that there are noobish 15-year-old *****-children on every platform, including the PC. It is the game that determines where they concentrate. On a 360, EVE would have the same affect there as it does on the PC, people looking for Halo get bored quick and quit. Not a problem.
-WOW and FFXI need competition in the 360 market and 360MMO gamers need a sci-fi alternative. Why not give them the best?
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.01.26 05:10:00 -
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Well, so far all I have read, with few exceptions, is a list of flaming and emotionalistic responses in opposition to the idea. There has been people statiting idiotic things such as that people that p[lay a 500 dollar computing system are all kids. Others seem to have rated the maturity of all XBox players on ... well ... no grounds whatsoever. Others have simplz refused to see the idea from anzy rational viewpoint whatsoever.
Cool! If the opposition is this weak then it must be a great idea.
The idea makes technical sense; it makes business sense; it makes commercial sense. All the problems to overcome are trivial in nature and in fact overcomming them by redesigning the ui will even be good for the game. In fact, there is no RATIONAL reason to not do it.
Oh and Maya, I have his card and we had lunch for 3 hours and I couldnt care less if you believe me or not but you are WRONG.
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Sevarus James
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Posted - 2006.01.26 05:24:00 -
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Ahhh, you pro-Xbox'ers............welcome to our world. (Linux and Mac users). Of course a big difference is that at least on the linux side we have the ability via Transgaming to get things working to an extent.
These topics, for some reason get very religious, very fast. Its unfortunate. Of course, being an old fart, I remember the reverse of this entire argument:
"Games on a PC???? Why the HELL would anyone want to play a GAME on a PC FOR????" - back in the beginning.
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Acheron Cyc
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Posted - 2006.01.26 05:33:00 -
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Great, another console-graphic *****.
Precisely why I'm getting a Revolution, to avoid 1337 swearing kids./partially unrelated rant.
And EvE -has- to stay in the PC. The only way it would support such idea is if the X-box kiddies get their own cluster. Tranq is bad as it is, so lets not mention having prepubecent potato-couch kids 1337ing all over the place.
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.01.26 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Acheron Cyc
Great, another console-graphic *****.
Precisely why I'm getting a Revolution, to avoid 1337 swearing kids./partially unrelated rant.
And EvE -has- to stay in the PC. The only way it would support such idea is if the X-box kiddies get their own cluster. Tranq is bad as it is, so lets not mention having prepubecent potato-couch kids 1337ing all over the place.
THe platform has nothign to do with attracting that sort. It is the GAME that attracts that sort. Counterstrike console and PC communiuties are just as bad; this is because those games attract those people. Such people would be immensely bored in eve.
But then you are welcome to live in your little biased, emotional, irrational world if you choose. I have seen plenty of "kiddies" on PC as well, more than a few quite ... uhh ... recently; while reading the replies to this thread as a matter of fact.
Lets face it, the sniping, emotionalism and bias in this forum is not exactly the paragon of maturity.
-- Rells
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FowlPlayChiken
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Posted - 2006.01.26 06:14:00 -
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that deserves a big WTF
next they will be suggesting eve on cell phones!
...oh wait:-d
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.26 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Edited by: Maya Rkell on 25/01/2006 17:34:29
You are not allowed to require the HDD.
So unworkable.
PS, there's been quite a few console MMO's.
Look up EQOA and PSO.
There is nothing 'massive' about Phantasy Star Online ther than the amount of boredom it generates after a day or two.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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