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Imawuss
United Atheist League
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:19:00 -
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Just curious if any devs are reading that dev blog thread and if they actually plan on participating like was stated they would. Becuase as it stands about 99% do not like what was proposed. |
baltec1
172
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:23:00 -
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I would wait till we can test them before kicking off. |
Shalia Ripper
The Elevens
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:30:00 -
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Why wait to complain when you can do it now?
While it is a step in the right direction, don't let it the last step to take. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
259
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:32:00 -
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I'm curious on where this 99% figure is coming from? Oh right you just threw out a random percentage.
Also mind stating what fiasco or what is the issue is with the current untested proposed changes? |
Imawuss
United Atheist League
8
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:32:00 -
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We as players do not have to test to have an open discussion or have dev feedback to the proposed changes. Becuase if we wait till it goes into sisi for testing theres a good chance they will still rush in the changes through then state they will get back to it after its proven to not resolve any of the main issues with hybrids. Then we wait another 3 years for our unused gallente/hybrid skills to be of use again. |
Imawuss
United Atheist League
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:38:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:I'm curious on where this 99% figure is coming from? Oh right you just threw out a random percentage.
Where is the that number coming from? Well from reading the thread. Try it sometime. In 32 pages (currenlty) maybe 10 poeple have said they like the changes.
Brooks Puuntai wrote: Also mind stating what fiasco or what is the issue is with the current untested proposed changes?
Again read the thread there are 32 pages explaining it. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:45:00 -
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Imawuss wrote:Where is the that number coming from? Well from reading the thread. Try it sometime. In 32 pages (currenlty) maybe 10 poeple have said they like the changes.
Again read the thread there are 32 pages explaining it.
It's still a bullshit number. Don't use percentages if you haven't actually done any real calculations to get there. It just makes you look like another idiot and ruins your credibility.
Say something more like, "Becuase as it stands about there are a lot of people posting in that 32 page thread who do not like what was proposed. "
players who use the forums are a minority, and those who post are only a vocal minority. I for one like the hybrid changes, and a lot of people I know do too.
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
259
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:58:00 -
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Imawuss wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:I'm curious on where this 99% figure is coming from? Oh right you just threw out a random percentage.
Where is the that number coming from? Well from reading the thread. Try it sometime. In 32 pages (currenlty) maybe 10 poeple have said they like the changes. Brooks Puuntai wrote: Also mind stating what fiasco or what is the issue is with the current untested proposed changes?
Again read the thread there are 32 pages explaining it.
For one I'm not going to read all 32 pages, however just reading the first 4-5 pages shows that most(see what I did there) are OK with the changes and feel its a good start. There is no fiasco, the sky isn't falling its incremental changes that all around are for the best. Your 99% figure is still ******** and shows you have very little argument, which is why you throw out a random high percentage number to try and prove a non existing point. |
Montevius Williams
Trigger works
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:00:00 -
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Imawuss wrote:Just curious if any devs are reading that dev blog thread and if they actually plan on participating like was stated they would. Becuase as it stands about 99% do not like what was proposed.
So you've read every response?
Troll harder.
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Montevius Williams
Trigger works
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:07:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Imawuss wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:I'm curious on where this 99% figure is coming from? Oh right you just threw out a random percentage.
Where is the that number coming from? Well from reading the thread. Try it sometime. In 32 pages (currenlty) maybe 10 poeple have said they like the changes. Brooks Puuntai wrote: Also mind stating what fiasco or what is the issue is with the current untested proposed changes?
Again read the thread there are 32 pages explaining it. For one I'm not going to read all 32 pages, however just reading the first 4-5 pages shows that most(see what I did there) are OK with the changes and feel its a good start. There is no fiasco, the sky isn't falling its incremental changes that all around are for the best. Your 99% figure is still ******** and shows you have very little argument, which is why you throw out a random high percentage number to try and prove a non existing point. edit: since when is retar ded censored. Thats some bullshit.
To Brooks: He's a troll man, dont bother.
To Imawuss: Do a thorough analysis before you spew bullshit.
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Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:09:00 -
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unused hybrid skills? i fly around like an idiot in Astarte's everyday. This'll just make it more fun. |
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:14:00 -
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You certainly have a low threshold for a "fiasco".
Or were you trying to be sensationalist and make a mountain of a mole hill? I wonder which it was |
Cunane Jeran
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:18:00 -
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The majority of people I've spoken to are really happy with the changes. Maybe you were expecting some massive power creep but thats the last thing we need. The changes bring Hybrids firmly back in line, open a whole ton of new fits that previously were just not feasible in PvP and PvE, and now fair game.
There is more to it that just damage and tracking.
Also, 99% I too like pulling numbers out my ass.
Get a grip lad. |
Kalot Sakaar
CragCO
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:25:00 -
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Ok, perhaps he was a bit over the top in coming out on this post but he is right to an extent. 30+ pages and not a single CCP response. Only one CSM response, and that's just a simple +1 comment right at the beginning. There are a huge number of issues that need addressing and comparing it to the other posts such as cap ship rebalance, Faction warfare, and the custom's office threads its disturbing to see a complete absence of CCP/CSM response, input and guidance to the discussion.
A lot of players have been anxious for a fix to hybrids and Gallente ships and is certainly to some players the number one most important awaited fix. So when CCP goes silent, you have to expect some angst, especially after all the "open communication" stuff they have talked about. Especially when there is another post that shows the Talos potentially losing its webifier bonus. It just fuels the fire that CCP is in a complete quandry about Gallente rebalance.
In the end, the Tech II ammo change has only made Minmatar even more dominant and is the real story in the Hybrid fix thread, oddly enough. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:29:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:I'm curious on where this 99% figure is coming from? Oh right you just threw out a random percentage.
Also mind stating what fiasco or what is the issue is with the current untested proposed changes?
would overwhelming majority suffice for you?
and how about you read the thread if you are curious about its contents...
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Imawuss
United Atheist League
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:29:00 -
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Usually when you say a number is wrong you point to the correct number. So Yes 99% of the people in that thread say the changes dont go far enough. Dont believe me read it yourself or stfu. And funny the guy saying the rebalance is fine is mimatar go figure... Guess your happy with your Hail buff, effectivly doubling your kite range with your highest damage ammo. Meanwhile void stays the same. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
125
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:36:00 -
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I personally love the new hybrid changes. I fly hybrid ships and I accept the range challenge, someone has to get the short straw.
What exactly is your vaginal leakage about? Note I don't think you're really leaking, but since you took liberty with the facts (e.g. 99%, I've decided to be just as fluid).
Imagine playing Donkey Kong where every barrel looks like it hits you. Would you rather I fix that or the shadow Kong projects?
Welcome to Eve Online where lasers are dumber than barrels! |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
125
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:37:00 -
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double post! Imagine playing Donkey Kong where every barrel looks like it hits you. Would you rather I fix that or the shadow Kong projects?
Welcome to Eve Online where lasers are dumber than barrels! |
mkint
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:38:00 -
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Imawuss wrote:Usually when you say a number is wrong you point to the correct number. So Yes 99% of the people in that thread say the changes dont go far enough. Dont believe me read it yourself or stfu. And funny the guy saying the rebalance is fine is mimatar go figure... Guess your happy with your Hail buff, effectivly doubling your kite range with your highest damage ammo. Meanwhile void stays the same. OKay, 99% is wrong. 3% is the correct number. See I can make up **** too. |
Bryant21
Interest Recovery Service
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:48:00 -
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I am the 1%! |
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Cailais
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:58:00 -
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Imawuss wrote:Just curious if any devs are reading that dev blog thread and if they actually plan on participating like was stated they would. Becuase as it stands about 99% do not like what was proposed.
Probably safe to say that the 99% you speak of are gallente ship pilots so theyre hardly likely to settle for anything less than "OMGBBQ!!1!!1!" ? Let's see how they play out on SISI before leaping to judgements.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.11.02 00:02:00 -
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Cailais wrote:Imawuss wrote:Just curious if any devs are reading that dev blog thread and if they actually plan on participating like was stated they would. Becuase as it stands about 99% do not like what was proposed. Probably safe to say that the 99% you speak of are gallente ship pilots so theyre hardly likely to settle for anything less than "OMGBBQ!!1!!1!" ? Let's see how they play out on SISI before leaping to judgements. C.
As a gal pilot I have to say no. Its most likely the people who never use blasters. |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.02 00:04:00 -
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Imawuss wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:I'm curious on where this 99% figure is coming from? Oh right you just threw out a random percentage.
Where is the that number coming from? Well from reading the thread. Try it sometime. In 32 pages (currenlty) maybe 10 poeple have said they like the changes. Brooks Puuntai wrote: Also mind stating what fiasco or what is the issue is with the current untested proposed changes?
Again read the thread there are 32 pages explaining it.
Its a lot closer to 50%, at least the thread I was reading is.
Untested numbers are worthless. Until the changes are on sisi, any discussion is equally worthless. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
125
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Posted - 2011.11.02 00:08:00 -
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I know a lot of players have been asking for better tracking for years, now that they give better tracking ... you complain? Imagine playing Donkey Kong where every barrel looks like it hits you. Would you rather I fix that or the shadow Kong projects?
Welcome to Eve Online where lasers are dumber than barrels! |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
138
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Posted - 2011.11.02 00:15:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:I'm curious on where this 99% figure is coming from? Oh right you just threw out a random percentage.
no, no! He's part of the Occupy EVE group.
Hey we should start one. Itd be great for subs O.O
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
My stance on WiS |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.02 00:21:00 -
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Cunane Jeran wrote:The majority of people I've spoken to are really happy with the changes. Maybe you were expecting some massive power creep but thats the last thing we need. The changes bring Hybrids firmly back in line, open a whole ton of new fits that previously were just not feasible in PvP and PvE, and now fair game.
There is more to it that just damage and tracking.
Also, 99% I too like pulling numbers out my ass.
Get a grip lad.
But we got the massive power creep... for the minmatar. I mean, 100% damage and 50% range buff sounds like massive to me.
And hybrids are inherently broken. a little bit tweaking is pointless. Taking hybrids out of the game is the solution (the only other option -rework all turret weapon systems completely- is apparently a no go for ccp). "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.11.02 00:22:00 -
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Apollo Gabriel wrote:I know a lot of players have been asking for better tracking for years, now that they give better tracking ... you complain?
No, he's probably part of the group that stayed silent all those years. One vocal minority versus another vocal minority. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
125
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Posted - 2011.11.02 00:27:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Apollo Gabriel wrote:I know a lot of players have been asking for better tracking for years, now that they give better tracking ... you complain? No, he's probably part of the group that stayed silent all those years. One vocal minority versus another vocal minority.
I suspect he's taken by enthusiasm, there is no way he's thought about anything, especially for years. Imagine playing Donkey Kong where every barrel looks like it hits you.
Would you rather I fix the barrels or Kong's shadow?
Welcome to Eve Online where lasers are dumber than barrels! |
Metis Laxon
Zero Point Group
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Posted - 2011.11.02 00:29:00 -
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<3 hybrid changes.
Clearly I am part of the 1% D: I am the problem. Come out of hiding 99% and make me pay you money for my appreciation of the fantastic hybrid changes. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
263
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Posted - 2011.11.02 00:31:00 -
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Its a shame my account will be inactive by the time these changes are added. |
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