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Zol Interbottom
Theft and Taxes
310
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Posted - 2014.05.14 02:33:00 -
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Is this how much RMT you would need to do to make EVE a viable basement dwelling income? "If you're quitting for the 3rd time you clearly ain't quitting" - Chribba |

Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.05.14 02:36:00 -
[92] - Quote
Zol Interbottom wrote:Is this how much RMT you would need to do to make EVE a viable basement dwelling income? no |

Zol Interbottom
Theft and Taxes
310
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Posted - 2014.05.14 02:38:00 -
[93] - Quote
Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Zol Interbottom wrote:Is this how much RMT you would need to do to make EVE a viable basement dwelling income? no Really?
I saw a whole lot of math, a whole lot of math "If you're quitting for the 3rd time you clearly ain't quitting" - Chribba |

Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
254
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Posted - 2014.05.14 02:47:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Erufen Rito wrote:I'm a bit troubled that you are switching back and forth between billions and millions, utilizing the "1.5m" isk format on your first post. Sorry, where in the first post? It seems the post was modified from 1.18 billion ISK to 1.18 m ISK and so forth. It is obvious that 590m x2 = 1.18b isk, not 1.18 m ISK. I wouldn't be surprised that there is an error in the calculation or that the post itself was changed. I don't have a Read-only CD version of it.
I'm not and won't be trying to offer criticism services or disagree to increase arguments levels. The point of this thread (as for most other of my threads) were not intended to argue. If that is the case, and most of those replying prefer that to be the case, despite my efforts, we should make separate ones. We could then review all the topics discussed and argue and make points to argue even if it leads to warfare. Maybe we could get agreement to invest into blatant verbal argument and comments which would be more harsh in their tone. Not that it would convey the meaning of what I intended, but if "most people" replying want it, why argue? One of the worst limitation would be to create the conditions in which this could occur, like in a sandbox. The most sad part of it is that the subjects are being changed into other meanings by arguments. Some of those arguments being dissenting and worst. There may be valid grounds for warfare, who knows. I guess we can't find out without testing or trying. Here, and on
Quote: $35 for a month (30 days+) is equal to 2 PLEX which is equal to 1.18m ISK (at 590m ISK per PLEX on the market in Jita IV). That is equal to $35 for 720 hours (at 30 days x 24 hours) . = 1.63m ISK / hr in relative equivalent costs. Or 3.26m ISK per hour = 1.63m ISK profit / hr. 4.89m ISK income - costs = 3.26m ISK profit.
If $55 for a month , it is equivalent to 3 PLEX at 1.77m ISK. = 2.45m ISK / hr cost equivalent related to profit margin.
@ $5 / 3 hours internet costs = 42.5m ISK / hr income at 590m ISK for 1 PLEx. (4 x 3 hours = 12 hours = $20 = 1 PLEX.)
This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |

Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
867
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Posted - 2014.05.14 03:23:00 -
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br-r-r-a-a-a-aaaaa-aa-a-i-i-i-iiii-i-iii-i-nnnns? Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI |

Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:02:00 -
[96] - Quote
Either way, I cannot fix the first post until I log in to that account (hopefully before 3 months).
Erufen Rito wrote:Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Erufen Rito wrote:... switching back and forth between billions and millions, utilizing the "1.5m" isk format on your first post. ... It seems the post was modified from 1.18 billion ISK to 1.18 m ISK and so forth. It is obvious that 590m x2 = 1.18b isk, not 1.18m ISK. I wouldn't be surprised that there is an error in the calculation or that the post itself was changed. I don't have a Read-only CD version of it. ... Here, and on Quote: $35 for a month (30 days+) is equal to 2 PLEX which is equal to 1.18m ISK (at 590m ISK per PLEX on the market in Jita IV). That is equal to $35 for 720 hours (at 30 days x 24 hours) . = 1.63m ISK / hr in relative equivalent costs. Or 3.26m ISK per hour = 1.63m ISK profit / hr. 4.89m ISK income - costs = 3.26m ISK profit.
If $55 for a month , it is equivalent to 3 PLEX at 1.77m ISK. = 2.45m ISK / hr cost equivalent related to profit margin.
@ $5 / 3 hours internet costs = 42.5m ISK / hr income at 590m ISK for 1 PLEx. (4 x 3 hours = 12 hours = $20 = 1 PLEX.)
In: $35 for a month (30 days+) is equal to 2 PLEX which is equal to 1.18m ISK (at 590m ISK per PLEX on the market in Jita IV). That is equal to $35 for 720 hours (at 30 days x 24 hours) . = 1.63m ISK / hr in relative equivalent costs. Or 3.26m ISK per hour = 1.63m ISK profit / hr. 4.89m ISK income - costs = 3.26m ISK profit.
If $55 for a month , it is equivalent to 3 PLEX at 1.77m ISK. = 2.45m ISK / hr cost equivalent related to profit margin.
@ $5 / 3 hours internet costs = 42.5m ISK / hr income at 590m ISK for 1 PLEx. (4 x 3 hours = 12 hours = $20 = 1 PLEX.)
Should be: $35 for a month (30 days+) is equal to 2 PLEX which is equal to 1.18b ISK (at 590m ISK per PLEX on the market in Jita IV) (not m).
If $55 for a month , it is equivalent to 3 PLEX at 1.77m ISK. Should be: If $55 for a month , it is equivalent to 3 PLEX at 1.77b ISK (not m). |

Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
46
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:04:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I too can use a **** load of math to make myself seem intelligent.
The number of ****s I give = 0
The number of people who think theyre the space rainman = 5000 (approx.)
Now, if you take the number of ****s I give times the number of space rainmen, you once again arrive at the number of ****s I give.
Math proof: 5000 x 0 = 0.
Yeah! Math *****!
Didn't work! |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4234
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:06:00 -
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How all maths and this thread makes me feel;
http://bit.ly/1qD4eNM "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
439
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:44:00 -
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It doesn't make sense.
Game time - the game is available 23x7.
A "game month" would be ~690 hours, not 720.
Taking full internet service fees is wrong. If you didn't play EVE anymore, I seriously doubt you'd dump your internet service.
30 x 24 is the availability of your internet service - only the time in EVE should be allocated as an EVE based expense.
As such, you're looking at around $0.87 an hour for each hour you play and only *THAT* should be used in your formula to calculate those costs.
PLEX and/or subscription fees are different because the game works and you can earn/spend while not online (manufacturing & marketing) but ... It's just stretched too far out there in strangeness.
Very odd. logic. |

Elmonky
Titans of The Short Bus
14
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Posted - 2014.05.14 16:53:00 -
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I would like the amount of isk it cost me to read this thread back please. Oh and the 15 minutes of my life. |
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Organic Lager
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
54
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:03:00 -
[101] - Quote
What is this and why is it back? |

Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:12:00 -
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Gotta love that 1 ISK CPSA.
I do include the posting time and posting costs in my calculations.
Right now, it costs me nothing but time to post it, but even that is something I don't have enough of.
Btw, my fiancee has no internet for 3 years already and we're trying to make arrangement for her to get an account.
Quit making false assumption to make me seem wrong while trying to divert me from caring for our family.
You make statement about conditions which you pretend exist when in fact there are other conditions in play.
And don't think you can repay me for the waste of time.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4237
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:15:00 -
[103] - Quote
Lar Tadaruwa wrote:
Quit.... trying to divert me from caring for our family.
Not about you specifically, but I would give anything for that superpower "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Noriko Mai
1350
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:22:00 -
[104] - Quote
I earn ISK in eve faster than equivalent bucks IRL      |

Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:42:00 -
[105] - Quote
Well, there you have it...
I want my calculations to be accurate to the hundredth of ISK, or to the isk double.
I could earn more ingame ISK than I make in real life. That would allow me to transfer game time for PLEX.
However , at over 10 accounts, that would get quite expensive. I don't think that would cover for 10 accounts per month even though it may.
I got my first battleship yesterday since someone told me that it wouldn't be worth it.
It was worth it to me although that the delay to get it and other income related matter diminished the value.
Ramona McCandless wrote:Not about you specifically, ... Well, yes about me specifically and her too. They're more socially oriented, granted. But it doesn't change the fact that others do have internet and so could she. I don't want to get involved in political discussion here. Not that I am afraid or evasive.
I'm old and we're also planning to have a child. The responsibility for me to care for those factors is not from a political system or even due to political factors. The reason why rather is of greater scope. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4241
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:48:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Not about you specifically, ... Well, yes about me specifically and her too. They're more socially oriented, granted. But it doesn't change the fact that others do have internet and so could she. I don't want to get involved in political discussion here. Not that I am afraid or evasive. I'm old and we're also planning to have a child. The responsibility for me to care for those factors is not from a political system or even due to political factors. The reason why rather is of greater scope.
Nice try.
Not falling for that one.
But +1 for effort "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.14 17:58:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Nice try.
Not falling for that one.
But +1 for effort I think there are other people involved already so you won't have to be responsible. At least not entirely as normally is. |

Jayem See
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
2640
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:08:00 -
[108] - Quote
This thread reminds me heavily of this one...RIGHT HERE!
I read the OP in this thread and actually assumed it was Oiras on an alt character. Then he turned up later and my brain just melted.
Really don't get it, but best of luck getting where you are going! Aaaaaaand relax. |

Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:34:00 -
[109] - Quote
What about that Recall Program? Can I recall all my inactive characters and get 7 days free and get rewards too?
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4242
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:36:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Nice try.
Not falling for that one.
But +1 for effort I think there are other people involved already so you won't have to be responsible. At least not entirely as normally is.
Close
So close that time lol "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:56:00 -
[111] - Quote
ok, around $209.94 for a Blop. Not $100. |

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
759
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Posted - 2014.05.14 18:57:00 -
[112] - Quote
Necros...
Oh damn, I already liked Ramonas first post in this thread.
*liking another random McCandless post instead* Remove insurance. |

Qmamoto Kansuke
Killing with pink power
4
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:11:00 -
[113] - Quote
a2+b2=c2 ??  |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4246
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:13:00 -
[114] - Quote
Qmamoto Kansuke wrote:a2+b2=c2 ??   Quite easily "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1121
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:31:00 -
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Eve is a game and real life is real life.
We work to pay bills, we play to have fun. if working is more fun to you than Eve why not just get a 2nd job? Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á |

Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:34:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Eve is a game and real life is real life.
We work to pay bills, we play to have fun. if working is more fun to you than Eve why not just get a 2nd job? I have a 24/7 job since 1992 + more than 2 jobs, obviously. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4247
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:36:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote: I have a 24/7 job since 1992.
http://bit.ly/1k2epGG "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1122
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Posted - 2014.05.14 19:47:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Eve is a game and real life is real life.
We work to pay bills, we play to have fun. if working is more fun to you than Eve why not just get a 2nd job? I have a 24/7 job since 1992 + more than 2 jobs, obviously.
Thats $87,464 per year at minimum wage. $1.9 million over 22 years.
You're truly my hero.
Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á |

Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.15 00:38:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Eve is a game and real life is real life.
We work to pay bills, we play to have fun. if working is more fun to you than Eve why not just get a 2nd job? I have a 24/7 job since 1992 + more than 2 jobs, obviously. Thats $87,464 per year at minimum wage. $1.9 million over 22 years. You're truly my hero. +/-20m - 40m , depending... In dollars per hours or micro-seconds... |

Kristalll
Valkyrie Professional Resources
265
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Posted - 2014.05.15 00:43:00 -
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Now, I'm pretty smart and mathematically inclined, but I could not find my way around your equations as well as I think you do.
It starts simple, and then you start combining terms in ways that don't flow or make any sense.
Interesting stuff, but damn your presentation is seriously lacking. GÇ£Die tryingGÇ¥ is the proudest human thing. |
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