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Jade Marbles
Marble Ventures
14
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Posted - 2013.10.22 10:27:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Tron 3K wrote:Everyone join CFC its the cool thing to do... Not quite sure I see the fun in having everyone on my side in a PVP game but each his own..  I can confirm being on the winning side is quite fun. Underdogs best dogs. |

Amber Felstone
Marble Ventures
0
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Posted - 2013.10.22 10:29:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Q: What's the one thing you can't buy even if you have respect?
A: 35,556 friends. Keep thinking they're all your friends.
Boy are you gonna be in for a surprise. |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
821
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Posted - 2013.10.22 10:44:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Tron 3K wrote:Everyone join CFC its the cool thing to do... Not quite sure I see the fun in having everyone on my side in a PVP game but each his own..  I can confirm being on the winning side is quite fun. i like safe games too |

Iso47
EveCoPilot. Northern Army.
15
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Posted - 2013.10.22 11:02:00 -
[64] - Quote
So Null, So Goon, So Friends |

Athena Maldoran
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2446
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Posted - 2013.10.22 11:06:00 -
[65] - Quote
So the nap train just got bigger?  |

Charles Wu-Wong
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
15
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Posted - 2013.10.22 11:06:00 -
[66] - Quote
grr, goons |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1650
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Posted - 2013.10.22 11:07:00 -
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not counting all the alts outside of goons See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Tron 3K
Ship Spinning Industries
144
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Posted - 2013.10.22 11:38:00 -
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Bad AtEVE wrote:Rekon X wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: grr goons
Do day learn you dat in da goon skool? It used to be "U mad?" They try to switch it up every several years - gotta keep it fresh. U mad was the dumbest thing to come from the interwebs.. Well I guess not the only thing but it sure ranks up there. inb4 u mad bro! |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3127
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Posted - 2013.10.22 12:57:00 -
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It's one letter short of being awesome, that's what it is. If that 1st C was a K it would have more than 35k members.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
814
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:11:00 -
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I can confirm that I have fun playing this computer game. |

Samoth Egnoled
Infinitech Catastrophic Uprising
24630
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:13:00 -
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Can we get to the point where someone compares them to BoB, so we can get on with our day? |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1472
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:17:00 -
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As long as game mechanics favor gathering as many people to your side as possible for one massive structure timer per week, then anyone who isn't actively putting as many friends on their side of the balance of power is effectively "losing".
Change sovereignty and nerf power projection (in that order), and you will have drastically altered the incentive system that makes massive organized blocs the most efficient organizational form. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1733
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:20:00 -
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it makes me happy to know that after getting his hulk ganked, the OP has been furiously f5ing the coalition tracker just to see how large the big bad goons are npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |

TharOkha
0asis Group
622
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:22:00 -
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Somehow i don't care. TEST had also great numbers but then war started and their numbers fell like house of cards. When someone/something threatens CFC their numbers are solid (and more p*ssed off.).
No i think that their member numbers are just a reflection of their success. They are well organized, well funded and their loyalty to CFC is solid.
(but that doesn't means that i agree with most of their their "grr hisec" threads and some of their "elitist" forum warriors.) GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

stoicfaux
3280
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:23:00 -
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I hate goons because all the terri-bad "grr goons!" threads overshadow my terri-bad posts. |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1366
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:34:00 -
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Goons have won Eve. Period. Game over man.
So CCP, acknowledge they played well, given the game constructs that you have the provided.
Then blow the whole thing up, and overhaul the game mechanisms that play to their strength, namely the blob and out of game in-house tools.
CCP, you want to really build the sub base?
Make it incredibly unpleasant to operate organizations of more than 1000 chars (and I am talking non-game alliances, like CFC). Spread wealth out equally across null sec. Move moon goo to asteroids, then randomize the location when it is depleted. Make virtually instant power projection very very expensive, and risky (the further you jump, the more ships you jump, the higher a percent some end up in the wrong system, don't jump at all, or worse, blow up).
That is a few things right there that would cripple the null sec cartels, and encourage smaller groups to populate all of the game's systems.
But none of this will happen. CCP's ties to the cartels are way too close for them to try breaking them up.
Eve has become something like the Southpark WoW episode, but in Eve's case, that slob player is in the conference room, or has multiple reps on the CSM. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |

Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
438
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:39:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: CCP, you want to really build the sub base?
They nerfed moon income so that you have to rent out nullsec now. So now all the pubbies are getting access to nullsec. Mission accomplished. Not today spaghetti. |

BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
337
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:51:00 -
[78] - Quote
Tron 3K wrote:Everyone join CFC its the cool thing to do... Not quite sure I see the fun in having everyone on my side in a PVP game but each his own.. 
If by "cool" you mean a good choice because we are organized, effective and social. Then yeah. All good organizations attract participants, don't be so bitter. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:24:00 -
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Prince Sanguine wrote:I love all the npc alts hating on the cfc. At least post with your mains. Being in the cfc doesn't make anything easy FYI, we are constantly fighting (which I love) reds, dealing with spies, doing ops, etc. Moral of the story: It's a game and who gives a **** as long as you're having fun. 
Hmm, where do you find these reds?
More like your going around, "please don't attack me, we can just be friends. Join our coalition." |

Tron 3K
Ship Spinning Industries
146
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:32:00 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:Tron 3K wrote:Everyone join CFC its the cool thing to do... Not quite sure I see the fun in having everyone on my side in a PVP game but each his own..  If by "cool" you mean a good choice because we are organized, effective and social. Then yeah. All good organizations attract participants, don't be so bitter. Far from bitter. I just don't understand the gameplay that they are creating with recruiting more and more people into the alliance. As for organized, eh this probably could be debated, getting enough people on at a certain time because of how SOV is doesn't really make you organized. Just says you either have so many people that you are guaranteed to have a blob no matter the time of day or you found all the people that randomly don't have **** to do on a given day other to log into the game. Not hating just stating that it isn't all organization when it comes to fighting in a blob.. |

Tron 3K
Ship Spinning Industries
146
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:34:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:[quote=Prince Sanguine]I love all the npc alts hating on the cfc. At least post with your mains. Being in the cfc doesn't make anything easy FYI, we are constantly fighting (which I love) reds, dealing with spies, doing ops, etc. Moral of the story: It's a game and who gives a **** as long as you're having fun. 
Always post with my main unless its banned then Clue takes over. Grr Goons!
Agreed it is all about fun but when it comes down to it when you guys have everyone that will join in your alliance and own everything will it be fun after that? |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1659
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:43:00 -
[82] - Quote
Tron 3K wrote:Rekon X wrote:[quote=Prince Sanguine]I love all the npc alts hating on the cfc. At least post with your mains. Being in the cfc doesn't make anything easy FYI, we are constantly fighting (which I love) reds, dealing with spies, doing ops, etc. Moral of the story: It's a game and who gives a **** as long as you're having fun.  Always post with my main unless its banned then Clue takes over. Grr Goons! Agreed it is all about fun but when it comes down to it when you guys have everyone that will join in your alliance and own everything will it be fun after that?
There's always Star Citizen to take over... See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
817
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:44:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Goons have won Eve. Period. Game over man.
So CCP, acknowledge they played well, given the game constructs that you have the provided.
Then blow the whole thing up, and overhaul the game mechanisms that play to their strength, namely the blob and out of game in-house tools.
CCP, you want to really build the sub base?
Make it incredibly unpleasant to operate organizations of more than 1000 chars (and I am talking non-game alliances, like CFC). Spread wealth out equally across null sec. Move moon goo to asteroids, then randomize the location when it is depleted. Make virtually instant power projection very very expensive, and risky (the further you jump, the more ships you jump, the higher a percent some end up in the wrong system, don't jump at all, or worse, blow up).
That is a few things right there that would cripple the null sec cartels, and encourage smaller groups to populate all of the game's systems.
But none of this will happen. CCP's ties to the cartels are way too close for them to try breaking them up.
Eve has become something like the Southpark WoW episode, but in Eve's case, that slob player is in the conference room, or has multiple reps on the CSM.
Summary: Nerf friends and make everything I don't like less fun for others.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3131
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:44:00 -
[84] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Goons have won Eve. Period. Game over man.
So CCP, acknowledge they played well, given the game constructs that you have the provided.
Then blow the whole thing up, and overhaul the game mechanisms that play to their strength, namely the blob and out of game in-house tools.
CCP, you want to really build the sub base?
Make it incredibly unpleasant to operate organizations of more than 1000 chars (and I am talking non-game alliances, like CFC). Spread wealth out equally across null sec. Move moon goo to asteroids, then randomize the location when it is depleted. Make virtually instant power projection very very expensive, and risky (the further you jump, the more ships you jump, the higher a percent some end up in the wrong system, don't jump at all, or worse, blow up).
That is a few things right there that would cripple the null sec cartels, and encourage smaller groups to populate all of the game's systems.
But none of this will happen. CCP's ties to the cartels are way too close for them to try breaking them up.
Eve has become something like the Southpark WoW episode, but in Eve's case, that slob player is in the conference room, or has multiple reps on the CSM.
This is where conspiracy thinking goes from funny to sad.
See the part I bolded, if you know it's not going to change, why do you muck up allthese different forums and blogs with this insane muck?
Stepping aside from the video game stuff and speaking simply as a dude, i want to ask you a question: How do you respond to people who talk to you the way you talk to others.
I'm serious, have you ever been doing something, then some one ran up to you and said, "Dinsdale, you should be doing this that way....of course, I know you aren't going to do that"? Did you then just suddenly change course, ignoring your own best interests and all the successes of you past to prove that naysayer wrong, to show him that "of course i'm going to do it that way!!!"?
No one listens to you (or joins with you to test things on sisi.....) not because it's some massive conspiracy against you, but because you don't know how to talk to people honestly.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3131
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:46:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Goons have won Eve. Period. Game over man.
So CCP, acknowledge they played well, given the game constructs that you have the provided.
Then blow the whole thing up, and overhaul the game mechanisms that play to their strength, namely the blob and out of game in-house tools.
CCP, you want to really build the sub base?
Make it incredibly unpleasant to operate organizations of more than 1000 chars (and I am talking non-game alliances, like CFC). Spread wealth out equally across null sec. Move moon goo to asteroids, then randomize the location when it is depleted. Make virtually instant power projection very very expensive, and risky (the further you jump, the more ships you jump, the higher a percent some end up in the wrong system, don't jump at all, or worse, blow up).
That is a few things right there that would cripple the null sec cartels, and encourage smaller groups to populate all of the game's systems.
But none of this will happen. CCP's ties to the cartels are way too close for them to try breaking them up.
Eve has become something like the Southpark WoW episode, but in Eve's case, that slob player is in the conference room, or has multiple reps on the CSM. Summary: Nerf friends and make everything I don't like less fun for others.
And he expects to here such things from a member of the Goon illuminati cabal (Goonluminati?)! You prove his point by pointing out the insanity of what he says!

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1368
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:48:00 -
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Tron 3K wrote:Rekon X wrote:[quote=Prince Sanguine]I love all the npc alts hating on the cfc. At least post with your mains. Being in the cfc doesn't make anything easy FYI, we are constantly fighting (which I love) reds, dealing with spies, doing ops, etc. Moral of the story: It's a game and who gives a **** as long as you're having fun.  Always post with my main unless its banned then Clue takes over. Grr Goons! Agreed it is all about fun but when it comes down to it when you guys have everyone that will join in your alliance and own everything will it be fun after that?
So are we currently looking at a situation where goons now directly control or exert control on 10% of all accounts in the game? By that I mean the CFC proper, all the renter's, plus god knows how many alts of CFC and renters?
Yeah, I have said it before. Goon's saw the business model of Serenity, and are bringing it to TQ.
Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |

Good Posting
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:56:00 -
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I've been in the CFC and i think that Goons and friends are a group of cool guys that only want to have fun in the game they love, so there is no need to hate them. Some alliances are terrible like spacemonkeys and some others are decent like razor, but that makes the things balanced.
That being said, 200 PL guys can beat 2000 CFC guys, so don't be scared because the sky won't fall. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
819
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:00:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tron 3K wrote:Rekon X wrote:[quote=Prince Sanguine]I love all the npc alts hating on the cfc. At least post with your mains. Being in the cfc doesn't make anything easy FYI, we are constantly fighting (which I love) reds, dealing with spies, doing ops, etc. Moral of the story: It's a game and who gives a **** as long as you're having fun.  Always post with my main unless its banned then Clue takes over. Grr Goons! Agreed it is all about fun but when it comes down to it when you guys have everyone that will join in your alliance and own everything will it be fun after that? So are we currently looking at a situation where goons now directly control or exert control on 10% of all accounts in the game? By that I mean the CFC proper, all the renter's, plus god knows how many alts of CFC and renters? Yeah, I have said it before. Goon's saw the business model of Serenity, and are bringing it to TQ.
How do we control or exert control over people who can just tell us to **** off whenever they want to? I realize alliances can become entrenched but renters can always decide to rent from our enemies instead. And I could be wrong but I think most of the CFC actually like one another. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1473
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:01:00 -
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Yeah, I think people are forgetting how quickly and easily empires crumble in Eve.
Hell, the whole of the CFC has one good FC and only a handful of competent ones.
Call me when they control 75%+ of the map, then I'll start considering that they are at an unassailable position from which they can actually conquer all of nullsec.
How's Morsus Mihi doing these days?
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4915
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:01:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tron 3K wrote:Rekon X wrote:[quote=Prince Sanguine]I love all the npc alts hating on the cfc. At least post with your mains. Being in the cfc doesn't make anything easy FYI, we are constantly fighting (which I love) reds, dealing with spies, doing ops, etc. Moral of the story: It's a game and who gives a **** as long as you're having fun.  Always post with my main unless its banned then Clue takes over. Grr Goons! Agreed it is all about fun but when it comes down to it when you guys have everyone that will join in your alliance and own everything will it be fun after that? So are we currently looking at a situation where goons now directly control or exert control on 10% of all accounts in the game? By that I mean the CFC proper, all the renter's, plus god knows how many alts of CFC and renters? Yeah, I have said it before. Goon's saw the business model of Serenity, and are bringing it to TQ. Stop right there, the renters would just rent from someone else if it came to that. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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