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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4915
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:03:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:Yeah, I think people are forgetting how quickly and easily empires crumble in Eve.
Hell, the whole of the CFC has one good FC and only a handful of competent ones.
Call me when they control 75%+ of the map, then I'll start considering that they are at an unassailable position from which they can actually conquer all of nullsec.
How's Morsus Mihi doing these days? Call me when progodlegend remembers his coalition exists to destroy gsf and they get back to doing that instead of saving their renters over fighting us There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1660
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:03:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tron 3K wrote:Rekon X wrote:[quote=Prince Sanguine]I love all the npc alts hating on the cfc. At least post with your mains. Being in the cfc doesn't make anything easy FYI, we are constantly fighting (which I love) reds, dealing with spies, doing ops, etc. Moral of the story: It's a game and who gives a **** as long as you're having fun.  Always post with my main unless its banned then Clue takes over. Grr Goons! Agreed it is all about fun but when it comes down to it when you guys have everyone that will join in your alliance and own everything will it be fun after that? So are we currently looking at a situation where goons now directly control or exert control on 10% of all accounts in the game? By that I mean the CFC proper, all the renter's, plus god knows how many alts of CFC and renters? Yeah, I have said it before. Goon's saw the business model of Serenity, and are bringing it to TQ. How do we control or exert control over people who can just tell us to **** off whenever they want to? I realize alliances can become entrenched but renters can always decide to rent from our enemies instead. And I could be wrong but I think most of the CFC actually like one another.
The game will be won when everyone is either in CFC or renting from them. When that happens, fun content will consist of culling much like the Wraith did... See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4915
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:05:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tron 3K wrote:[quote=Rekon X] Agreed it is all about fun but when it comes down to it when you guys have everyone that will join in your alliance and own everything will it be fun after that? So are we currently looking at a situation where goons now directly control or exert control on 10% of all accounts in the game? By that I mean the CFC proper, all the renter's, plus god knows how many alts of CFC and renters? Yeah, I have said it before. Goon's saw the business model of Serenity, and are bringing it to TQ. How do we control or exert control over people who can just tell us to **** off whenever they want to? I realize alliances can become entrenched but renters can always decide to rent from our enemies instead. And I could be wrong but I think most of the CFC actually like one another. The game will be won when everyone is either in CFC or renting from them. When that happens, fun content will consist of culling renters much like the Wraith did... Some people did recommend test rent from us, but they decided FW was better. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
819
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:10:00 -
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We are winning Eve with our winning personalities. We are charming New Eden into submission with our delightful companionship and our unbeatable rental deals. A disarming smile? Yes, literally.
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Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
573
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:14:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Q: What's the one thing you can't buy even if you have respect?
A: 35,556 friends.
How many of those came from the SA forums (of which you have to pay a sub)? This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |

Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
573
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:18:00 -
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Tron 3K wrote:Bad AtEVE wrote:Rekon X wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: grr goons
Do day learn you dat in da goon skool? It used to be "U mad?" They try to switch it up every several years - gotta keep it fresh. U mad was the dumbest thing to come from the interwebs.. Well I guess not the only thing but it sure ranks up there. inb4 u mad bro!
It didn't come from the "interwebs".
You should watch some really good movies. This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1473
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:18:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:We are winning Eve with our winning personalities. We are charming New Eden into submission with our delightful companionship and our unbeatable rental deals. A disarming smile? Yes, literally.
I fought for the CFC from its earliest days until a little before the tribute war. I wouldn't fight for them now simply because I prefer the underdog side, but I remain an avowed "Goonist" and strongly believe in their vision for how Eve should be played, nullsec gameplay in particular. Furthermore, if it ever again came down to eleetpeeveepee trying to wipe out groups who leverage large numbers of more casual players, I would X up again.
Goons are winning Eve because they provide the best content for the most people. Pretty simple. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
821
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:19:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Q: What's the one thing you can't buy even if you have respect?
A: 35,556 friends. How many of those came from the SA forums (of which you have to pay a sub)?
Why are people so hung up on this? |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1368
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:21:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Goons have won Eve. Period. Game over man.
So CCP, acknowledge they played well, given the game constructs that you have the provided.
Then blow the whole thing up, and overhaul the game mechanisms that play to their strength, namely the blob and out of game in-house tools.
CCP, you want to really build the sub base?
Make it incredibly unpleasant to operate organizations of more than 1000 chars (and I am talking non-game alliances, like CFC). Spread wealth out equally across null sec. Move moon goo to asteroids, then randomize the location when it is depleted. Make virtually instant power projection very very expensive, and risky (the further you jump, the more ships you jump, the higher a percent some end up in the wrong system, don't jump at all, or worse, blow up).
That is a few things right there that would cripple the null sec cartels, and encourage smaller groups to populate all of the game's systems.
But none of this will happen. CCP's ties to the cartels are way too close for them to try breaking them up.
Eve has become something like the Southpark WoW episode, but in Eve's case, that slob player is in the conference room, or has multiple reps on the CSM. This is where conspiracy thinking goes from funny to sad. See the part I bolded, if you know it's not going to change, why do you muck up allthese different forums and blogs with this insane muck? Stepping aside from the video game stuff and speaking simply as a dude, i want to ask you a question: How do you respond to people who talk to you the way you talk to others. I'm serious, have you ever been doing something, then some one ran up to you and said, "Dinsdale, you should be doing this that way.... of course, I know you aren't going to do that"? Did you then just suddenly change course, ignoring your own best interests and all the successes of your past to prove that naysayer wrong, to show him that "of course i'm going to do it that way!!!"? No one listens to you (or joins with you to test things on sisi.....) not because it's some massive conspiracy against you, but because you don't know how to talk to people honestly.
Ha ha...Honesty. On the Eve forums....
Given how much disinformation is pumped out here, the methods I employ are as effective as any for a one-man crusade. Don't get me wrong. I recognize that what I do on these forums is quixotic. No way CCP listens to what I say, in the vast majority of cases, and the cartels ignore me. One man's voice is not going to alter much when so many are used to drown him out.
Further, any "reasonable" discourse, very quickly degenerates on these forums. So taking an extreme position is the the eventual result anyway, so might as well start there.
CCP is a 140 million dollar company. Through Somergate, it has been proven that there are also people with some serious financial interests surrounding the game and they don't want those interests messed with, and use every method they can to protect those interests. So any attempt to point this out, or heavens, suggest changes, is quickly hammered at by many many folks with fiduciary interests.
And lastly, do I talk like this to people in "real life"? Well, since I seldom every meet people as openly crazy or nefarious in real life as I do here on the forums, then no, I can't really equate with what you are asking me. I have no context in real life to create the analogy. Eve attracts sociopaths. They are far more scattered in real life, though I see the carnage created by them every day.
In Eve I see the carnage done by its own set of sociopaths every day, but at least I can speak out here, with fewer repercussions. It may not help much, and probably not at all, but my conscience demands it of me. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1660
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:22:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Q: What's the one thing you can't buy even if you have respect?
A: 35,556 friends. How many of those came from the SA forums (of which you have to pay a sub)?
Only the elite few of the first world goons who can afford tenbux. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4917
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:27:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Q: What's the one thing you can't buy even if you have respect?
A: 35,556 friends. How many of those came from the SA forums (of which you have to pay a sub)? Only the elite few of the first world goons who can afford tenbux. Well you can actually figure out how many different players are in goonwaffe... wait a sec.
Well the numbers should be there in our war participation thread that would allow you to figure it out. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
573
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:28:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tron 3K wrote:Rekon X wrote:[quote=Prince Sanguine]I love all the npc alts hating on the cfc. At least post with your mains. Being in the cfc doesn't make anything easy FYI, we are constantly fighting (which I love) reds, dealing with spies, doing ops, etc. Moral of the story: It's a game and who gives a **** as long as you're having fun.  Always post with my main unless its banned then Clue takes over. Grr Goons! Agreed it is all about fun but when it comes down to it when you guys have everyone that will join in your alliance and own everything will it be fun after that? So are we currently looking at a situation where goons now directly control or exert control on 10% of all accounts in the game? By that I mean the CFC proper, all the renter's, plus god knows how many alts of CFC and renters? Yeah, I have said it before. Goon's saw the business model of Serenity, and are bringing it to TQ.
A long time ago when angry mustache wrote an article about china's eve server we were in a discussion on these forums about that and I did mention how it was a better model.
Funnily enough, a lot of Goons argued with me about it. And that how renting would never be what they do.
Funny thing that. This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4917
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:29:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Q: What's the one thing you can't buy even if you have respect?
A: 35,556 friends. How many of those came from the SA forums (of which you have to pay a sub)? Why are people so hung up on this? I don't really know. I suppose they rather it was like reddit so they could join a community with no gate and tons of trolls There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
573
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:31:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Q: What's the one thing you can't buy even if you have respect?
A: 35,556 friends. How many of those came from the SA forums (of which you have to pay a sub)? Why are people so hung up on this?
What people are "hung up"?
It was a valid point to argue, nothing more (I actually like a lot of goon members).
If you take the time to reread the dialogue before processing a reaction, it might make more sense, even though I can understand your kneejerk response. This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4917
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:32:00 -
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How many test friends (please ignore) came from reddit
Wait, you don't pay "a sub" to the SA forums. It's just a one-time thing. More like a membership fee and less of a pay monthly to read LPs There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
824
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:20:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Q: What's the one thing you can't buy even if you have respect?
A: 35,556 friends. How many of those came from the SA forums (of which you have to pay a sub)? Why are people so hung up on this? What people are "hung up"? It was a valid point to argue, nothing more (I actually like a lot of goon members). If you take the time to reread the dialogue before processing a reaction, it might make more sense, even though I can understand your kneejerk response.
It's not a knee jerk response. You went out of your way to mention it, as if it were somehow relevant. Now that you have indicated that you're a crazy person who just strings together unrelated clauses, I will regard your posts accordingly.
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Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
574
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:33:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:How many test friends (please ignore) came from reddit
Wait, you don't pay "a sub" to the SA forums. It's just a one-time thing. More like a membership fee and less of a pay monthly to read LPs
True, but I guess I should have made it more clear that you need to buy into that friendship regardless of frequency of payments =P This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |

Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
574
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:38:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Q: What's the one thing you can't buy even if you have respect?
A: 35,556 friends. How many of those came from the SA forums (of which you have to pay a sub)? Why are people so hung up on this? What people are "hung up"? It was a valid point to argue, nothing more (I actually like a lot of goon members). If you take the time to reread the dialogue before processing a reaction, it might make more sense, even though I can understand your kneejerk response. It's not a knee jerk response. You went out of your way to mention it, as if it were somehow relevant. Now that you have indicated that you're a crazy person who just strings together unrelated clauses, I will regard your posts accordingly.
Really? You want to argue my level of intent or effort? In a post about having friends and no money, it was relevant.
Lol crazy person... like I'm the one who kneejerked any sort of "hung up" comment eh?
I think you are mixing up my emotional content with your own. It doesn't take much to point out a flaw. No real effort at all. And like I said, it's not like I'm mad about it. I prefer groups that require a membership fee/dues.
Doesn't mean I need to ignore it's existence though. You should however answer the question unless you are just wanting to go out of your way to try to send an attack, or are you just trolling?
/shrug
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baltec1
Bat Country
8332
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:38:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Tron 3K wrote:Rekon X wrote:[quote=Prince Sanguine]I love all the npc alts hating on the cfc. At least post with your mains. Being in the cfc doesn't make anything easy FYI, we are constantly fighting (which I love) reds, dealing with spies, doing ops, etc. Moral of the story: It's a game and who gives a **** as long as you're having fun.  Always post with my main unless its banned then Clue takes over. Grr Goons! Agreed it is all about fun but when it comes down to it when you guys have everyone that will join in your alliance and own everything will it be fun after that? So are we currently looking at a situation where goons now directly control or exert control on 10% of all accounts in the game? By that I mean the CFC proper, all the renter's, plus god knows how many alts of CFC and renters? Yeah, I have said it before. Goon's saw the business model of Serenity, and are bringing it to TQ. A long time ago when angry mustache wrote an article about china's eve server we were in a discussion on these forums about that and I did mention how it was a better model. Funnily enough, a lot of Goons argued with me about it. And that how renting would never be what they do. Funny thing that.
We still don't like it. |

Kate stark
718
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:42:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:We still don't like it.
but every man has their price, right? Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
735
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:48:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Q: What's the one thing you can't buy even if you have respect?
A: 35,556 friends. How many of those came from the SA forums (of which you have to pay a sub)? Why are people so hung up on this?
Maybe he paid :tenbux: and made his first post in the EVE thread... |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1476
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:48:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:baltec1 wrote:We still don't like it. but every man has their price, right?
Better to rule in hell. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
761
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:53:00 -
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Alt's r us?
I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:( Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Ryhss
Dry Atomic Fusion Gatekeepers Universe
121
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:57:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Ryhss wrote:All these replies and no one can tell me who the hell CFC is?! Its probably because the link on the original post goes to a page that has all the alliance names and coalitions on it.  Well, I didn't see that, so thank you. I just turned into an egg, did I level up? |

baltec1
Bat Country
8332
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:58:00 -
[115] - Quote
Varius Xeral wrote:Kate stark wrote:baltec1 wrote:We still don't like it. but every man has their price, right? Better to rule in hell.
We like our socialism so we get the peasants to till the fields. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
825
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:58:00 -
[116] - Quote
hey guys some goons said a thing once and it's different from what they're doing now |

Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
575
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:58:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
We still don't like it.
That I understand, but as I recall, I was told I was stupid for imaging such a thing. And how much I was wrong etc.
Hasn't been the first time, but it's amusing just the same when it happens.
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4138
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Posted - 2013.10.22 18:00:00 -
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I'm in the CFC too WOOOHOOO \o/ |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
825
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Posted - 2013.10.22 18:06:00 -
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it used to be ... but now it's ...
hey look i'm a space chuck asay cartoon
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1735
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Posted - 2013.10.22 18:21:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:How many of those came from the SA forums (of which you have to pay a sub)?
It's a one-time payment of $10, not a "sub" unless you post there like you do here, in which case you'll find yourself paying $10 pretty often npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
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