seems to work fine, thank you

If you click my affiliate link which sends you to shattered crystal then buy a 60-Day GTC or multiple 60-Day GTC's. I will pay you 500mil bonus isk with every 60-Day GTC you buy. For large orders 20+ 60-Day GTC's contact me first and i will sort a better rate.

You are selling yourself short. Basically your giving away 500M ISK to put $1.75 into your pocket.

That is way under market value. You'd be better off reducing that to about 225M ISK ... something a tad higher than Somer, but still preferable. 200M Blink Credit vs. 225 M ISK ... the choice is obvious.

You are selling yourself short. Basically your giving away 500M ISK to put $1.75 into your pocket.

That is way under market value. You'd be better off reducing that to about 225M ISK ... something a tad higher than Somer, but still preferable. 200M Blink Credit vs. 225 M ISK ... the choice is obvious.

Shattered Crystal is Out of Stock :S

Shattered Crystal is Out of Stock :S

and i just got my order from them- does that mean i'm not getting a bonus? :P

On the site markeedragon i cant say how but my affilates orders went to a different account and he's trying to sort it. Because markeedragon thinks my offer could be against to TOS he does not want me to use his affilate system at this time. He has a email in with CCP to see if its ok to do business with me. Both things are going to take time to sort.

But the Somer Blink affiliate code is still working?

Considering CCP is doing their best to protect Somer's business, I imagine they'll declare this against the TOS.

If they didn't, it would certainly hurt Somer's business, and therefore hurt CCP.

But im trying to sell 21k worth of gtc's ive done 1.6k so far. Think that might be good for CCP.

Considering CCP is doing their best to protect Somer's business, I imagine they'll declare this against the TOS.

If they didn't, it would certainly hurt Somer's business, and therefore hurt CCP.

On the site markeedragon i cant say how but my affilates orders went to a different account and he's trying to sort it. Because markeedragon thinks my offer could be against to TOS he does not want me to use his affilate system at this time. He has a email in with CCP to see if its ok to do business with me. Both things are going to take time to sort.

Is markeedragon the owner of Shattered Crystal? Or a second, separate site?

yes

Guessing it would be somewhere along the lines of, "we just sell the GTC then send reference numbers and commission to SOMER, what ever they do with it is their business"

As far as I can see he is doing nothing different than one of our previous affiliates, http://cogdev.net/blink/ . If there is anything he is doing wrong, please let me know.

Ok i was sleeping back to business. I tried to convince markeedragon that me and somer where the same.

Olive branch is all that I ask for; Yet you sit by and watch Pandora's box get slowly opened. If this is the future of eveonline then so be it.

same 1bil thanx very much for this service :) may have some more coming your way soon :P

would be nice to keep us uptodate with how your funds are going :) so people dont go buying a **** ton of them to find out u have ran out :)

seems like CCP told shattered crystal to stop selling GTCs, because they just now suddenly went out of stock :)

I must say that you and DNSBlack are heroes.

I was about to quit this game, but I'm basically staying around just to watch you guys do your thing

CCP, take note, we are watching very closely here. while others haven't put their horses into the race yet, there is always room for competition in a healthy economy

I do agree with the other guy saying you're cashing out too low, although that is your call to make.

perhaps the interested parties that are looking into doing this would like to establish a dialogue and 'price-fix' the affiliate GTC market and thus insure all get a piece of the pie without driving the price of isk down too quickly?

Because markeedragon thinks my offer could be against to TOS he does not want me to use his affilate system at this time. He has a email in with CCP to see if its ok to do business with me. Both things are going to take time to sort.

Taking this to the long term is there anything stopping someone setting up a GTC site selling at say $50 to provide say 20% to affiliate links? The competition for those links could get very serious. I agree though, with the rate at which people are buying those it seems even the relatively wealthy OP will run out of ISK soon enough, of course he has stated thats what he wanted to cash up quickly.

For a 50$ GTC sale with 20% commission you might see:

GTC retailer gets + $7 per transaction

GTC affiliate gets $10 per link

Customer might get GTC + 2bn (3/4 plex) for an extra $15 spend

o/ Katarina Reid

Just curious, do you know if markeedragon got a reply from CCP regarding the TOS about this yet? I prefer to use Markeedragon if I can so would be nice to know if he heard back from them (since he's a major GTC seller so I would imagine they would reply him pretty quickly, but I might very well be wrong).

It's a great offer you have, so very very tempted.


o7

Sean DT

Ps. Does your offer expire when that 46bil (at current status) in your wallet is depleted, or will you sell assets and replenish the wallet?

Quoting the EVE Online Terms of Service:
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10. You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of items in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.

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Also note the following explanation:

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2. Any form of ETC trading outside of the CCP created system is not permitted or supported by CCP.
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This means, if you try to sell in-game items, for example a 30 day PLEX, for real money, you violate the TOS.

If you want to become an authorized ETC reseller, please contact the CCP Customer Support via [email protected].

If you want to sponsor a tournament with real life money or prizes, please contact the CCP Customer Support via [email protected] first, otherwise please refrain from such sponsorship.


Please note that RMT attempts can swiftly lead to permanent forum and permanent in-game bans.

from https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=290279

I guess everyone will get negwalleted wololol

Why did they shut you down and not me? My thread has been up for longer. Isk is not a item is the only thing i can think of.

I wasn't going to actually do the Nyx lottery you know. No one would 3rd party it anyway.
I made the thread to get closer to how people cashed out thus far (Blink lottery), to add value to the ongoing discussion about RMT and to get a reaction from CCP.
Well, it got shut down, so what implications does this have for yours or Blinks schemes?

I also don't see my non-existant customers getting hurt, whereas yours might get their ISK removed, accounts marked and possibly (temp)banned.

Play it safe people~ CCP can (and will as history shows) ban you for any reason at all if they want to.

Also wololo I was going to leave your thread alone, not cool posting in competitor threads, but you first posted into mine flaming, you know.

Edit: Did you even read their lockthreads? Man. They were trying to be an unofficial ETC reseller which is clearly forbidden ("I'll sell you a GTC for 2000$"). The other one was character lottery, which is also clearly forbidden. Our threads have none of that.

Hi Poe! Can you tell me how to RMT all my plex, as I too am done with this game. Thanks!

I was not going to post in your thread till i read "It's safer than getting straight ISK from my competitors". Thats not playing nice. I thought your idea was good at first. Stats 237 ETC sales $8000 spent 118b given out i dont see CCP taking that away for customers after they have not stoped me while they have had time. They will probley say dont do it in the future.

@Katarina Reid - How did you make so much ISK in the first place?

the cap spread sheet dont work when you download it does not download all parts strange

Supporting the cause! Bought 10 ETCs!

4x60-Day ETC bought.

Is there an option I'm not seeing? Is there a result that doesn't hurt EvE fan sites?

Disallow sites giving any incentive for purchasing GTCs through their affiliate links. You want to support a site you like? Fine, buy GTCs through them. But you can't say "if you buy GTCs through my link you will get X as a reward". (where X is ISK, "credits", paperclips, etc.)

Since you already seem to have a reputation and customer base going, and are eventually going to run out of isk. Have you been able to think of a way to let other kind-hearted individuals wanting to help incentivize GTC sales do so through your service, legally? I for one would love to be as "philanthropic [sic]" as SOMER Blink, were it not for the associated real-world overhead costs. But if you find a way to partially compensate donors to your service, I've got a stack of 25bil gathering dust in Jita that I'm just aching to get rid of. Hell, if I can, I might even funnel the rest of my profits into your charity until the day it becomes unavailable.

Since you already seem to have a reputation and customer base going, and are eventually going to run out of isk. Have you been able to think of a way to let other kind-hearted individuals wanting to help incentivize GTC sales do so through your service, legally? I for one would love to be as "philanthropic [sic]" as SOMER Blink, were it not for the associated real-world overhead costs. But if you find a way to partially compensate donors to your service, I've got a stack of 25bil gathering dust in Jita that I'm just aching to get rid of. Hell, if I can, I might even funnel the rest of my profits into your charity until the day it becomes unavailable.

Is there an option I'm not seeing? Is there a result that doesn't hurt EvE fan sites?

You are selling yourself short. Basically your giving away 500M ISK to put $1.75 into your pocket.

That is way under market value. You'd be better off reducing that to about 225M ISK ... something a tad higher than Somer, but still preferable. 200M Blink Credit vs. 225 M ISK ... the choice is obvious.

As for peeps waiting you know i said within 24hours. The reason i say that is cuz i need to sleep sometimes

Have you got your ishukone watch scorpions off CCP yet?

Stopped

Gave you a shot instead of somer, looking forward to 1b! :D

any news on the markeedragon situation?

We were waiting for ccp to make a desicion seem they have cant do any bonuses with ETC's. Now they have done that i will work with markeedragon to get you guys something back. I ask him to give you store credit but he cant so maybe i can just pay you the referral fee once he pays me.


Not sure if im allowed to link the letter given to resellers but it says to stop players trading ingame items for cash. ETC + bonus items may not be direclty or indirectly traded by the buyer for isk. EULA says cant sell ingame stuff for cash. 10 days for reseller to stop it or else.

i don't see why you wouldn't be able to link it? it would also help clear the air regarding this mess, so please post it, thanks!

10 days for reseller to stop it or else..

Firstly, congratulations a good sum of cash I hope people continue to use your link.



Secondly, you have 10 days why not finish the job, after all Somer's service is currently still running.

Firstly, congratulations a good sum of cash I hope people continue to use your link.



Secondly, you have 10 days why not finish the job, after all Somer's service is currently still running.

Dont want to annoy GM's anymore and after 10 days its a breach of reseller agreement. So i will shut it down now i made my point.

Dont want to annoy GM's anymore and after 10 days its a breach of reseller agreement. So i will shut it down now i made my point.

You didn't make your point. You punched it in with a sledgehammer. And I loved every second of it. =D

Not sure if im allowed to link the letter given to resellers but it says to let Katrina give bonus isk with referrals until she cleans her wallet within 10 days, this way we can keep profiting from this fast GTC sales buck and then continue with Somer Blink only.

Letter translated to english

AWESOME JOB! Gratz! Way to Knock the RMTing Scum bags down a few Notches!

They don't seem to think so:

[ 2013.10.30 06:59:51 ] Andre Ox > Blake - CCP hasn't in any way asked us to stop. They're talking with the affilaites, the guys who actual do the sales, and trying to find a solution. But forum trolls to the contrary, they've not backed away from saying the credit was kosher at all :)

They don't seem to think so:

[ 2013.10.30 06:59:51 ] Andre Ox > Blake - CCP hasn't in any way asked us to stop. They're talking with the affiliates, the guys who actual do the sales, and trying to find a solution. But forum trolls to the contrary, they've not backed away from saying the credit was kosher at all :)

They don't seem to think so:

[ 2013.10.30 06:59:51 ] Andre Ox > Blake - CCP hasn't in any way asked us to stop. They're talking with the affilaites, the guys who actual do the sales, and trying to find a solution. But forum trolls to the contrary, they've not backed away from saying the credit was kosher at all :)

Ah, so somer are allowed to RMT in this fashion, but no one else is.

This game is in bloody tatters at this point

CCP sent a letter to the resellers(shattered crystal, markeedragon) .The letter said to stop the bonuses and if they are still doing it after 10 days they are in breech of the reseller agreement.

ETC + bonus items may not be direclty or indirectly traded by the buyer for isk.

Would seem to very much include Somer.

This will interesting to see what happens, if Somer does not shut off the bonus isk the player rage will make the last 3 weeks look like a warm up exercise.

its up to markeedragon to stop somer using his affilate program

What irritates me is if it is Deemed RMT Why is CCP going after the GTC Dealers and NOT The RMT'rs Like Somer accounts etc. Maybe then they should Destroy GTC Resellers and Eliminate Any possible means for RMTing. Instead of having to deal with Infractions here or There. Eliminate any cause possible. If Nox/mahm or any other RMT like Miners are getting off Free and the GTC dealers are being blamed itself, Why punish RMT players and just elliminate all the GTC Resellers.

Because if they do that they end up publicly eating ****. To officially endorse them, make grand claims about how trustworthy they are, to give them unique items to use as part of their business, to personally and directly reward the people who run it... and then to have to turn around and admit "oh actually they were RMTers and blatantly breaking the EULA"

hahaha could you imagine a company admitting that openly?

Nah, they'll try and pressure the sellers and quietly settle this, so as not to draw attention to their own incredible incompetence

Dont want to annoy GM's anymore and after 10 days its a breach of reseller agreement. So i will shut it down now i made my point.

Thank god Sommer also did the good thing and stopped theirs rather than increasing the payout by 5X.

Why the all somer hate?

Somer have an offer on to try and squeeze some extra cash out of the 10 day grace period.

I'm slightly confused by all the Somer Blink hate here.
I think the only people who have done anything wrong is CCP when they favoured Somer by giving them very valuable free stuff. - and that issue has been dealt with.

Why the all somer hate? Somer appear to be preparing to abide by the new rules just like everyone else. Somer have an offer on to try and squeeze some extra cash out of the 10 day grace period. I've actually taken the offer, but thats a personal choice thing.
Somer look like they are going to abide by the new rules and hopefully won't get any more special treatment by CCP.
That's all good.
Why the hate?

for me that a non sequitur - I don't understand why that's bad
mind you I wasn't as pissed off as everyone else about the D3 AHes, maybe it's just me

For me CCP showing favouritism would be very bad if it happened, but it looks like everyone is getting treated the same.
When you think about somer only has 10 days to come up with and implement a new business model to pay server costs. That's not long at all. I think what they are doing right now is using the 10 days grace to build a cash buffer to take the time squeeze off. I don't think they can pay server expenses with ISK, but they are arse deep in ISK so trying to convert some to real cash - at a very poor rate for them.

I know if I make any positive comment on the current offer I'll be accused of shilling/fanboyism etc.... But the offer atm is so good I I actually got more value in incentives than the value of the items I purchased. Right now the effective price of PLEXmonthly sub to me is half what it usually is and I have stocked up a little to pay my subs for a decent period to come - at the expense of you know who.

I'm profiting from their misfortune. Is that good or bad?

I'm slightly confused by all the Somer Blink hate here.
I think the only people who have done anything wrong is CCP when they favoured Somer by giving them very valuable free stuff. - and that issue has been dealt with.

Why the all somer hate? Somer appear to be preparing to abide by the new rules just like everyone else. Somer have an offer on to try and squeeze some extra cash out of the 10 day grace period. I've actually taken the offer, but thats a personal choice thing.
Somer look like they are going to abide by the new rules and hopefully won't get any more special treatment by CCP.
That's all good.
Why the hate?

I agree there's cash in tham thar hills for Somer
But why should we all be down on someone trying to run a business connected to Eve? I've played a lot of MMO ( started with Asheron's Call ) over a long time and one of the things I love about Eve so much is the meta outside the mechanics of the game client. I love that scamming is allowed, spying is allowed, I love reading about the famous poniz schemes and fake banks. It's all part of Eve's history and what makes it so amazing.
Surely someone running a business off Eve is no different? Despite my Somer account being loaded right now I'd love it if one day they just stuck on their website "F**k you. We've run off with all the money" That would be soo funny :) It would also make CCP look a little silly - but they don't need help with that they manage fine all by themselves.
For me it's all part of the meta, and it's the variety and scale of the meta that makes Eve soo good.

So what if someone did some hard work and earned some cash from it? Who knows what the next bunch might come up with?
Isn't capitaism and greed is good as Gordon Gecko said?

The only get upset when people get treated differently - everyone should be treated equally. Also the rules should be clear.
I do admire the thread starter for tackling an unclear rule, and forcing CCP to pull their head out of the sand on this.

Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVE. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited.

Well I have certainly been enjoying the site all year and more-so now. I've deposited under 400mill throughout the whole year, but got a return of over 5billion isk and PLEX that paid my subs some months. And without ever using the affiliate thing honestly, rather just pay normal sub, it's cheaper. But with the increased incentive, I may actually get a 60d GTC for once and further increase my own rate of returns.