It's not. Pretty much all BS benefit from MWD-cycle warping since that pegs it at a fixed 10 seconds. So a 9 second spool up is shorter than that.

But more to the point, the MJD lets you quickly and trivially reposition yourself so the incoming ship is not guaranteed to land right on top of you, and while he's chasing you down, you're already half-way through a spool-up that will create enough distance to ensure that you get away.

Rat in an ishtar.

MJD and cloak.

Don't stay at 0km from the warpin.

Have an alt falcon.

Change your fit so you can take down intys (dozens of options here).

Stop being a whining scrub.

Bubble all gates in system when ratting.


All of these options are at your disposal. Why not use them?

Those drone boats are big enough to carry a set of ECM drones. So do it. Should be able to use them since you should have the Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing trained anyway for the extra control range.

I think inties are being slated to be immune to the bub.




meanwhile..... tears



But why? Are there no tools already at the hands of every nullseccer that already protects them? Intel channels? Hot drops?

I was under the impression that the moment any ships crosses into nullsec, 50 carriers show up and destroy it, and the killmail gets pasted in every billboard in the victims hometown and the ladies won't want to talk to him any more, and his dog will run away, and the earth will open up and swallow his house, and all that.

Who is worried and why?

How's this

[Stiletto, cyno stiletto]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

1MN Microwarpdrive II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Cynosural Field Generator I
125mm Gatling AutoCannon I, EMP S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon I, EMP S

Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I

Should have enough cargo even after the rebalance at Cyno IV. I have no experience - can the titan bridge some dudes in before the interceptor's killed? Mobile cyno jammer better be good, since inty gets a zillion warp speed and nullification

Null mining's at anoms, now, too, eh

Dunno what drone boats your guys fly but 2-3x OTL + 2x target painters + sentry domi + interceptor @ 30 = Dead interceptor everytime.

Needing two people to rat means you're making half as much money.

By the time you've locked the interceptor, the cyno has gone up and the gank squad has arrived. Sure, maybe you get lucky and the interceptor arrives as the drones were looking for a new target anyway. But don't count on that :)

Risk 'v' Reward my friend. It's what Eve's all about.

An interceptor pilot worth a sh*t will never be in range of a large neut much less a medium one. Also, warriors cannot fly as fast as an interceptor moving at max speed under mwd and therefore wont do anything to them.

The ceptor having to guess where you are might be a problem for them in a -1.0 system but in a -.4 or lower where there are only 2 f-hubs and a haven one dscan probably gives them better than a 50% chance of finding you.

There are countermeasures and yes carrier ratting is still possible, but I haven't seen anything effective listed here yet. This change is just classic fozzie at work.

Also, good job on adding new implants that boost the warp speeds of ships even more. Maybe it would have been a good idea to let the new warp mechanics hit TQ and see how/if they break the game before allowng people another method of warping EVEN FASTER?

Typical of CCP though, they will make something OP as hell and then just about the time everyone has trained into it the nerf hammer will fall.

Needing two people to rat means you're making half as much money.

Typical of CCP though, they will make something OP as hell and then just about the time everyone has trained into it the nerf hammer will fall.

So with upcoming changes to warp speed/acceleration who is going to rat in a carrier? :D

Also, any sentry BS boats? Rattlers/Domis/Geddons??

How with these insta warps, one can rat in those battleships? -

I mean sentry drone boats can't really align, and now interceptors can just jump into system and be in random heaven/sanctum in 5 seconds... awesome eh!?


(Im actually excited about this, few days away to get into ceptors ^^)

Losing your carrier means you are making no money.

So with upcoming changes to warp speed/acceleration who is going to rat in a carrier? :D

Also, any sentry BS boats? Rattlers/Domis/Geddons??

How with these insta warps, one can rat in those battleships? -

I mean sentry drone boats can't really align, and now interceptors can just jump into system and be in random heaven/sanctum in 5 seconds... awesome eh!?


(Im actually excited about this, few days away to get into ceptors ^^)

Escape, nope.

The primary carrier escape mechanic is *right click* *Jump to* *alt/cyno array*. It takes two seconds, faster than you can warp out with a ratting BS.

The carrier is also 50-100km from grid warp in as well.


Efficiency, prehaps.

Warping between sites takes longer which is bad.

It's not. Pretty much all BS benefit from MWD-cycle warping since that pegs it at a fixed 10 seconds. So a 9 second spool up is shorter than that.

But more to the point, the MJD lets you quickly and trivially reposition yourself so the incoming ship is not guaranteed to land right on top of you, and while he's chasing you down, you're already half-way through a spool-up that will create enough distance to ensure that you get away.

So long as you are paying attention you can get your frig into scram range of where ever that BS is going to land after its mjd cycle. For the most part, if you've been tackled by cepters you can only count on that mjd to give you a little more time, nothing more.

1. Warp to anom
2. Deploy mobile depot
3. If neut arrives in local refit warp core stabs and allign to POS
4. Warp away even if interceptor manages to "tackle" you

CCP said it won't. I haven't checked Singularity tho.