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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1828
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Posted - 2013.11.21 16:32:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:And whoever was saying "If you have 2 people ratting you only make half as much." ... seriously? 
read it again, it's not about two people ratting |
MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1496
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Posted - 2013.11.21 16:34:00 -
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question about the upgraded ceptors... i know they are bubble immune but that mean they wont get pulled into a sling bubble anymore or is it they will but can insta warp because they are immune to its effects...
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
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MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1496
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Posted - 2013.11.21 16:35:00 -
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Andrea Keuvo wrote:1. Warp to anom
2. Deploy mobile depot
3. If neut arrives in local refit warp core stabs and allign to POS
4. Warp away even if interceptor manages to "tackle" you
indeed.
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
797
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:02:00 -
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Spankijs Omaristos wrote:Borsek wrote:Rat in an ishtar.
MJD and cloak.
Don't stay at 0km from the warpin.
Have an alt falcon.
Change your fit so you can take down intys (dozens of options here).
Stop being a whining scrub.
Bubble all gates in system when ratting.
All of these options are at your disposal. Why not use them? Please, do not post if you have no idea what you're talking about. Rat in an ishtar. - This thread is to discuss about ratting in Battleships/Carriers after Rubicon, not " suggest alternative ships thread" MJD and cloak. - Cloak? Really? You cant use it if targeted (In this case by rats) And I want to see you patience for targeting Frigs/crusers. Don't stay at 0km from the warpin. - Just wtf is this? :D Have an alt falcon. - Fancy buying one for everyone? Change your fit so you can take down intys (dozens of options here). - Right, thats why the post is here, to discuss it. Stop being a whining scrub. - No one here is whining, this is just a discussion/question thread. Bubble all gates in system when ratting. - Please, BIOMASS yourself.
Seriously, you picked apart like that, and didn't bother to say anything about putting an MJD on an Ishtar?
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destiny2
Perkone
Caldari State
274
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:26:00 -
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Spankijs Omaristos wrote:So with upcoming changes to warp speed/acceleration who is going to rat in a carrier? :D
Also, any sentry BS boats? Rattlers/Domis/Geddons??
How with these insta warps, one can rat in those battleships? -
I mean sentry drone boats can't really align, and now interceptors can just jump into system and be in random heaven/sanctum in 5 seconds... awesome eh!?
(Im actually excited about this, few days away to get into ceptors ^^)
I still do. faction neut and a **** ton of light drones for the win, not to mention perks of a carrier you dont always have to use sentrys , warp at 0 launch max fighters fullspeed align to a safe inty warps in hit warp fighters follow ;)
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Holgrak Blacksmith
European Research and Industry Corp
158
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:41:00 -
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I have little experience with carriers and ratting, so if someone could inform me of my misunderstanding then thanks in advance.
First, won't interceptors still have to scan ratters down and won't that take enough time for ratters to warp out?
Also, if a carrier is using fighters and is aligned, can't it instawarp to station when the neut enters local? |
Andrea Keuvo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:49:00 -
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Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:I have little experience with carriers and ratting, so if someone could inform me of my misunderstanding then thanks in advance.
First, won't interceptors still have to scan ratters down and won't that take enough time for ratters to warp out?
Also, if a carrier is using fighters and is aligned, can't it instawarp to station when the neut enters local?
Anoms are 100% warpable from your scanner as soon as you enter a system so no scanning time involved other than a dscan or two. Carriers are very slow to align and warp.
Ratting with fighters is awful because their damage application is horrible. You are better off in a dominix than ratting in a carrier with fighters so noone uses them. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
3439
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:50:00 -
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Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:I have little experience with carriers and ratting, so if someone could inform me of my misunderstanding then thanks in advance.
First, won't interceptors still have to scan ratters down and won't that take enough time for ratters to warp out?
Also, if a carrier is using fighters and is aligned, can't it instawarp to station when the neut enters local?
Anomalies don't need to be scanned, and a glance at direction looking from the solar system map gives an inty pilot a good guess at where the ratter would be. There are only so many anomalies that are worth doing in a carrier or anything else.
And fighters are terrible for ratting, because of their travel time and because it's hard for them to apply damage to anything smaller than a battleship, sentry drones are far FAR superior to fighters and mods like Omnidirectional Tracking links and drone damage amps work with them, where as no mod (other than a target painter) can help fighters. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
3439
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:52:00 -
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Andrea:s: #97 Posted: 2013.11.21 17:49
Mine: #98 Posted: 2013.11.21 17:50
Beat me by one second. Did ccp change the forum warp speeds to? Andrea must be in an Inty.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4859
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:54:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:And whoever was saying "If you have 2 people ratting you only make half as much." ... seriously? read it again, it's not about two people ratting
Quote:Needing two people to rat means you're making half as much money.
Sorry, I don't know how else to interpret that.
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The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2013.11.21 18:14:00 -
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Ratting with fighters in ring sanctums and f-hubs is 40+ ticks in a Thanatos, though you need to manually path the fighters to reach good ticks. The trick is in keeping the fighter cluster from MWDing around, because that makes them miss stuff on jousting maneuver. To do it you kill rats that clump up.
Any carriers do reach 40+ ticks with sentries though, semi afk, much easier. But worse than a Dominix is doing it wrong. |
MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1496
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Posted - 2013.11.21 18:19:00 -
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Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:I have little experience with carriers and ratting, so if someone could inform me of my misunderstanding then thanks in advance.
First, won't interceptors still have to scan ratters down and won't that take enough time for ratters to warp out?
Also, if a carrier is using fighters and is aligned, can't it instawarp to station when the neut enters local?
Fighters used to be a thing before drone damage mods and tech ii sentries.
Now the dps from a ratting carrier makes the damage bonus on the thanny useless. ..
Really wish they boosted fighters speed and reduced their radius so bombs would do less damage.
That and fighters need a damage boost.
I miss my ratting fighter thanny. Now I just use a ratting chimera with sentries and damage mods
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
6267
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Posted - 2013.11.21 18:24:00 -
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Andrea Keuvo wrote:An interceptor pilot worth a sh*t will never be in range of a large neut much less a medium one
Good. Then I can MJD.
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MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1496
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Posted - 2013.11.21 18:31:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Andrea Keuvo wrote:An interceptor pilot worth a sh*t will never be in range of a large neut much less a medium one Good. Then I can MJD.
Indeed
Curious how fast an inty can travel 100km witg proper rigs/implants and heat on.
If you mjd and are not aligned properly to a pos or ss there might be a chance for the inty to catch up.
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
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The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2013.11.21 18:51:00 -
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Intercepting the MJD is really tough if MJD is done right. The reason for this is server tick mechanic when spamming warp after MJD, even if you do everything right as inty there is a good chance the warp initiates before point lands. |
SFM Hobb3s
Vanguard Frontiers
Black Legion.
30
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:34:00 -
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Tough but certainly possible. Brought down a nice corpus-x fit hyperion just the other day doing this. He managed to mjd at least once if not twice.
And the nice thing was, our ceptors only had disruptors, and yet we still had lots of time for a couple of us to go refit to bombers and come back to break his tank. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
6267
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Posted - 2013.11.21 20:14:00 -
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Of course, if you're ratting with a mobile depot (and if you're in a bastion marauder, there's no reason not to), you can just dump all your faction mods in there. You'll still lose your ship, but you can come back later for your stuff.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1828
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Posted - 2013.11.22 04:31:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:And whoever was saying "If you have 2 people ratting you only make half as much." ... seriously? read it again, it's not about two people ratting Quote:Needing two people to rat means you're making half as much money. Sorry, I don't know how else to interpret that.
Contextually.
Jint Hikaru wrote:Fit a 'Firend' or 'FleetMate' when ratting in nulsec.
The guy says to bring a ship to protect the ratting ship. So there's two pilots, one of which is ratting. Don't tell me you think they're making all the money they could have been making. |
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