This question will mean people will unsubscribe. We've also noticed a big trend in the MMO world going away from subs, that trend isn't fully done yet.

"if you aren't having fun in a sandbox, it's not the sands fault".

The OP is obviously and EA alt.

I really hate feeding trolls but:

1. http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/29/command-conquer-and-the-curse-of-the-free-to-play-rts

2. http://www.dorkadia.com/2012/11/29/the-failings-of-the-swtor-free-to-play-conversion/

Also, If you're going to post troll threads and terrible ideas, POST WITH YOUR MAIN! don't hide behind an alt. I need to rebuild my watch list the next time I log on

The sandbox could be full of cat poop.

This is actually my main and please get involved in the debate - I don't really like personal insults.

I genuinely think the game'll be more dynamic with a new business model.

Yea but if you're the cat, why complain, just stop pooping lol.

This is actually my main and please get involved in the debate - I don't really like personal insults.

I genuinely think the game'll be more dynamic with a new business model.

I never said I think EVE is done. I reckon the population will do fine in the coming months/years, but it's stale. Let's be honest, we need big change to spice things up - reenergise the game if you know what I mean.

You can rebalance null sec, which will only cause short-term wars and power shifts, or you can introduce new forces into the game. Completely change the playing field with thousands of new player. It might be costly, but if CCP do it right - the rewards will be big.

0/10.
Lots of effort, very little result except people who exclaim in horror.

Could have used a different theme and made it less obvious than P2W.

Yea but if you're the cat, why complain, just stop pooping lol.

Free to play is a move made by developers of failing pay to play titles to avoid losing what they invested in development. Free to play doesn't really work unless you actually gain a substantial advantage from paying.

There is a practical limit to how much you can manage as well. You can't be updating thousands of skill queues each day.

How do you stop people just making new accounts to bypass character limits? They could do some techno IP/hardware bans or whatever, but that might not be practical.

There is a practical limit to how much you can manage as well. You can't be updating thousands of skill queues each day.

Yes, I am sure Riot agree with your assessment that is if they can hear you over their estimated $200 million earnings in 2013.

My skill queue generally lasts me about 30+ days at a time, and that's for just a single skill. I get excited when I have to change a skill in fewer than two weeks.

It may be a decent amount of clicking in the very beginning, but as you get towards the higher end of the skills you need, you're looking at multi-week training for a single skill.



The LoL community are some of the most horrific wretches of humanity that exist. I quit playing LoL because of said community, despite enjoying the game. That is one of the things I'd rather see NOT happen to EvE.

I think CCPs $66 million in 2012 are far better considering how EvE has only a tiny fraction of the LoL player base.

scammed by goons.

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Dude... I haven't paid real money to play this game in like... years. Even before PLEX, when GTCs were the preferred form of payment with ISK.

Hey look.

Another shitpost thread.

The LoL community are some of the most horrific wretches of humanity that exist. I quit playing LoL because of said community, despite enjoying the game. That is one of the things I'd rather see NOT happen to EvE.

Alright guys I've got this one.

At the moment, EVE cannot survive in the long-run, which is what CCP want the game to be a - a game lasting decades, not years. With biggies like Star Citizen coming round with one-time fees and no-subs, there's gonna be some serious questions asked by the players. Questions like this:

"Why am I still paying for this bad bad game when star citizen is a lot cheaper?"

This question will mean people will unsubscribe. We've also noticed a big trend in the MMO world going away from subs, that trend isn't fully done yet. But when it is, who knows what'll happen to the CCP.

The big business model transFORMATION

Okay guys, so here's how I think CCP should do it.

1) EVE becomes free. Anybody can make account, download and start getting scammed by goons.

2) CCP sells character slots, ship paints, golden pods and more clothes and stuff. Basically, CCP sells as much as it can that doesn't have an impact on gameplay.

3) Population of EVE rises. There are huge huge wars because there are so many people fighting and having fun.

4) EVE is a lot better, more dynamic. Look at all of the politics with 400k people fighting for a finite amount of space. Imagine 5 million people fighting for the same amount of space? It would be crazy. Absolutely crazy.

This would probably INCREASE CCPs profits as well. I'd recommend that they do this IPO on the stockmarket they were talking about, as that will get the big businesses interested and posting articles about this awesome sci-fi sim. All of the hardcore eve fans, like the mitani, will probably buy shares - so they'll have even more money to improve the game.

As they improve the game more people play and buy cosmetic items and CCP get richer.

Thoughts please.


Thread update:

Thanks for feedback guys, I think there are a few more points worth adding here.

1) CCP should also consider the option of buy to play. Perhaps a -ú39.99 to get access to the game client, but fees after that - this would ensure there is a paywall to supplement CCP profits and keep out the hacking community. With the increased profits, CCP would have greater confidence in following a strictly cosmetic cash4items scheme.

Buy to play has been an extremely successful model and I think it is particularly relevant to EVE ONLINE. Why? The model in GW2 has triggered slow but steady growth, this is the type of growth CCP has always been experiencing with EVE. http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/08/23/lead-designer-says-guild-wars-2-is-growing-its-playerbase/

2) Secondly, a steam launch as free to play would be a great bolster to current numbers. 0.9 of the world's population has a steam account. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/30/0-9-of-the-global-population-have-steam-accounts/

lots of stuff...
Thoughts please.