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Calladen Nimitz	Posted - 2003.09.01 00:17:00 - [91] Homo, Then email it to me [email protected] Lets see it? I think you know (deep down inside of that tough exterior) I'm an ethical person who believes in honesty (all my posts have shown that). If your log is credible I'll state that. Credibility is EVERYTHING to me and goes far beyond any loyalty I have to anyone else. Calladen
Calladen Nimitz	Posted - 2003.09.01 00:18:00 - [92] Stavros, TTI headquarters is in Amsen. Our CEO is Ragnar. So I'll ask again, the corporation you refer to as "Stain". What system are they headquartered in and who is the CEO? Calladen
Indigo Seqi	Posted - 2003.09.01 00:18:00 - [93] Edited by: Indigo Seqi on 01/09/2003 00:18:15 You go get a good drink for few nights and you feel like you just stepped into a parallel universe when you return to eve... Thank god I'm not based in y4-cfk anymore
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.09.01 00:20:00 - [94] Edited by: j0sephine on 01/09/2003 00:23:34 "So the VA is apparently breaking up, our CEO has put a bounty on Jade Constantine (who probably was in cahoots with Evolution but I cant prove anything and thus won't portray it as proof)." ... omfg 'tis just too funny... ... am sorry, i realize it was supposed to be all serious thread and whatnot, but simply can't. restrain. myself. ... :s (still laughing)
Stavros	Posted - 2003.09.01 00:21:00 - [95] ok then for example mass as a corp is bigger than tti. lets all be pedantic shall we ? oh yes? Stavros 'They call him mr lover lover' -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
Kuole Zhilarsk	Posted - 2003.09.01 00:40:00 - [96] I am confused as to why TTI has decided to go with a route that loses them the Venal Region. It seems to have only made them more enemies, when they already have quite enough to contend with. I would like to ask, out of interest, how this fits into TTI's political policy and how it benefits TTI?
Sedsiss	Posted - 2003.09.01 01:05:00 - [97] Edited by: Sedsiss on 01/09/2003 01:06:18 My god, how did Ragnar ever find out that Jade was my alt? Sorry Jade, couldn't resist:) This is...shocking to say the least. Wretch, Cyberdyne and the venal gang that finnaly recognized TTi for the people they are, lubs to you:) Calladen, Carebears are people too, good luck on what ever your doing:) Edit: Yey Stavr0s! Member of the Stavr0s fanclub
Indigo Seqi	Posted - 2003.09.01 01:06:00 - [98] I just returned from the game and I can tell you theres a superheated discussion going on now, that clearly shows there are multiple forces inside the ex-venal alliance at work which are all trying to give their own spin to things. It all boils down to VERY bad intra-alliance communication imo. I don't think anybody can claim to be the good guys in this conflict.
QBall	Posted - 2003.09.01 01:15:00 - [99] Actually it all turns down to this: Threat Number 1... ------------------------------------------------------------ Channelname: Ragnar conversation Listener: QBall Session started: 2003.08.31 19:06:32 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2003.08.31 19:07:17 ] Ragnar > Howdy [ 2003.08.31 19:07:23 ] QBall > hello [ 2003.08.31 19:07:23 ] Ragnar > I am trying to get Roark in here [ 2003.08.31 19:07:36 ] QBall > i invited him [ 2003.08.31 19:07:45 ] Roark > Okay hey he is here good [ 2003.08.31 19:07:53 ] Roark > I will let Ragnar talk [ 2003.08.31 19:08:22 ] Ragnar > Okay where are you guys coming down on this vote today? [ 2003.08.31 19:09:00 ] QBall > Cyberdyne? [ 2003.08.31 19:09:44 ] Ragnar > Right [ 2003.08.31 19:09:52 ] QBall > wretch is handling the vote [ 2003.08.31 19:10:10 ] QBall > as he is CEO, and I'm pretty sure he's voting to split [ 2003.08.31 19:10:26 ] QBall > I went bar hopping last night didnt get to talk to him much [ 2003.08.31 19:10:30 ] Ragnar > He is voting to kick out TTI and SI right? [ 2003.08.31 19:10:49 ] QBall > I think so [ 2003.08.31 19:10:53 ] QBall > have to ask him though [ 2003.08.31 19:11:03 ] Ragnar > Okay just wanted to be sure. There is a rift coming and there is one side that is safe and one that is not. [ 2003.08.31 19:11:08 ] Roark > Yes that is right. [ 2003.08.31 19:11:34 ] QBall > hm... [ 2003.08.31 19:11:45 ] QBall > TTI gonna go loco on the VA if they get kicked? [ 2003.08.31 19:12:50 ] Ragnar > I just wanted to see where you stood on the matter... thanks. And Number 2 .... [ 2003.08.31 21:55:18 ] jimmychopps > Ragnar > "Taggart does not recognize the authority of this council, nor the voting power of a corp 1/100th of our size having the same power to limit our sovereignty. It is clear that the anti TTI effort has been led by Jade Constantine, who has been bought off by Evolution. [ 2003.08.31 21:55:36 ] Tankuk > wtf [ 2003.08.31 21:55:42 ] Athule Snanm > hmmmm [ 2003.08.31 21:55:44 ] jimmychopps > . We will start with a 100 million bounty on Jade Constantine with 100 million in bounties, paid for 5 mil ISK each for 20 corpses. TTI and SI and our friends will remain in Venal and we will openly attack all of the pro-Evolution people that have just voted against their one-time friends in TTI. If you wish to open relations, contact Jimmychopps now. Otherwise, you will be targetted. This is fair warning. Thank you." -------- "OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!" -QBall And QQ is QQ
Snoop	Posted - 2003.09.01 02:03:00 - [100] Quote: We will start with a 100 million bounty on Jade Constantine with 100 million in bounties, paid for 5 mil ISK each for 20 corpses. lol your the so called biggest corperation in eve yet you have to place a bounty on someone because you cant do it your self? the biggest and also the weakest me thinks...... btw do you actually have proof she was paid off or that it was even her who played the bigest role in getting you kicked from venal? you judge people for attacking and claiming things about you with no proof yet you seem to have done exactly that.
Indigo Seqi	Posted - 2003.09.01 02:08:00 - [101] The funny things is that it doesn't matter what kind of things/evidence TTI or the former VA gives, TTI is scapegoat No.1 so anybody on the forums will agree with TTI's "enemies" anyway.
frstkor13	Posted - 2003.09.01 02:24:00 - [102] But TTI are the bad guys, and for good reason. As I write this, their only remaining allies are pirates.
Sally	Posted - 2003.09.01 02:38:00 - [103] "As I write this, their only remaining allies are pirates." This might be true. Unlike others Space Invaders are keeping their words. We are honourable people and do not bash our alliance partners in shady votes benefiting our common war enemies only. As for the majority of the VA being FA's new friends and vice versa and SI sticking with TTI, there is an old russian saying: "Better one old friend than two new ones." -- Stories: #1 --
Snoop	Posted - 2003.09.01 02:41:00 - [104] Edited by: Snoop on 01/09/2003 02:45:32 Quote: The funny things is that it doesn't matter what kind of things/evidence TTI or the former VA gives, TTI is scapegoat No.1 so anybody on the forums will agree with TTI's "enemies" anyway if they had actual proof people would belive it they dont it just sounds like they dont like beeing forced out of a region by smaller corp's who they obviously see as beeing much weaker than they are it just shows exactly how arrogant TTI are. they dont recognise the authority of anyone smaller than them self's, they see them as lower beeings.
High Priestess	Posted - 2003.09.01 03:00:00 - [105] Thats not entirely fair Snoop. I've been asking for Evolution to show their evidence since the war started and they have failed. Now I will also ask TTI to show us the evidence that Jade has betrayed you or is this just a "suspicion" you have? If its a suspicion you should not present it as a fact. I will commend Mr. Nimitz on his apology to Xanadu, he kept his word, that I value very much and trust him as an honest man if not a bit misguided by his choice of comrades in arms. My new corporation Amistad Trading Company will conduct HONEST capitalism with no payoffs or hitman contracts. Honest businessman will win out in the end.
Gafton	Posted - 2003.09.01 03:49:00 - [106] Jade hasnt been paid off by anyone. The corporations that voted against tti leaving the alliance did so in it's best interest. This wasnt some half assed rush decision. We've been talking about it for the past 2 days. The reason Jade comes off as the focal point in this is because she has the best communication skills. (least I think so, sry qball :( ) She was also the one chosen this afternoon to be the chair of the meeting. Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead.
QBall	Posted - 2003.09.01 06:52:00 - [107] I just lead Jade does the talking, besides I'm usually pretty hungover on weekends. Only 2 days I don't work gotta have some fun eh? Pretty much the over all breaking point could be put down as TTI didn't give a $hit about alliance, and really only cared about their isk. By TTI I mean there upper managment, it's a damn shame some good people are in TTI though. And personally I would rather be friends with a Rock than have TTI by my side. For example here is the combine fleet of the Venal Alliance: we have an attack and good intel where evo is when TTi Under the command of GunnyP pick up their stuff and leave. This was the within the first couple days of the attack. [ 2003.08.23 03:42:29 ] QBall > WE ARE GOING TO 6NJ8 WHEN i YELL JUMP BE READY [ 2003.08.23 03:42:30 ] eriq > listen if we were coming to them, we'd equip for travel then dock and get ready for war [ 2003.08.23 03:42:32 ] Roark > Yes if we stay together and wait for them, our odds skyrocket. They didn't come 40 jumps to turn around and go home [ 2003.08.23 03:42:32 ] Grankor > 6 jumps, I see nobody. [ 2003.08.23 03:43:06 ] Violation > where are people warping to [ 2003.08.23 03:43:07 ] QBall > Why are people leavign stargate [ 2003.08.23 03:43:08 ] Wolf Leader > wow i got the best screenshot of bs sex ever [ 2003.08.23 03:43:13 ] Wolf Leader > and apoc and a mega [ 2003.08.23 03:43:15 ] Jarra > where are u guys off too? [ 2003.08.23 03:43:15 ] Violation > wtf [ 2003.08.23 03:43:15 ] Revenant > wtf [ 2003.08.23 03:43:20 ] Contrail > lol people just warped off [ 2003.08.23 03:43:26 ] Wolf Leader > um uys [ 2003.08.23 03:43:26 ] Ziro > HELLO WHAY ARE YOU LEAVING [ 2003.08.23 03:43:26 ] GunnyP > qball they have to attack us.. [ 2003.08.23 03:43:36 ] Grankor > ambush? [ 2003.08.23 03:43:43 ] QBall > GunnyP they you have already lost they wont attack these numbers [ 2003.08.23 03:43:43 ] Wolf Leader > .... [ 2003.08.23 03:43:43 ] dezmOn > if they come here, this is the only way out, we should just camp the gate [ 2003.08.23 03:43:47 ] Roark > Victory will be ours. [ 2003.08.23 03:43:47 ] Kronus Kroegler > listen to qball NOW!!!!!!! [ 2003.08.23 03:43:49 ] QBall > perio evo arn't f*ing idiots [ 2003.08.23 03:43:51 ] GunnyP > THEY HAVE TO ATTACK US.. THEY DID NOT COME 40 JUMPS TO JUST LEAVE [ 2003.08.23 03:43:53 ] Violation > actually yeah [ 2003.08.23 03:43:59 ] Ctaesis > TTi is heading back to the station to catch them if they jump in. [ 2003.08.23 03:44:02 ] Violation > we should camp the gate [ 2003.08.23 03:44:06 ] QBall > You obbviously do not know evo [ 2003.08.23 03:44:09 ] Violation > only way out if they come into the system [ 2003.08.23 03:44:13 ] Wolf Leader > gunny they wont attack us like this unless they got stupid [ 2003.08.23 03:44:20 ] The Wretch > they came before like this - * slapped a couple around - left and declaired a victory last time [ 2003.08.23 03:44:25 ] Kronus Kroegler > LISTEN TO QBAL!!! [ 2003.08.23 03:44:32 ] Wolf Leader > kronus shh [ 2003.08.23 03:44:45 ] GunnyP > how can they call this a victory? [ 2003.08.23 03:44:49 ] Violation > well weither way [ 2003.08.23 03:44:53 ] Violation > either [ 2003.08.23 03:44:54 ] QBall > BECAUSE THEY OWN FKING VENAL RIGHT NOW Only edited information is I bleeped most of the Curse words, maybe now you will understand exactly why the VA fell apart, TTI wanted everything done thier way, which wasn't any good because TTI doesn't know how to fight. -------- "OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!" -QBall And QQ is QQ
Homo Erectus	Posted - 2003.09.01 07:55:00 - [108] jesus, from that log, I declare the military ppl @ tti the most pathetic commanders in eve history.
Karash Amerius	Posted - 2003.09.01 08:04:00 - [109] Quote: Assumption, the cause of all mistakes. -Necro That sir, is so very true.
Karash Amerius	Posted - 2003.09.01 08:06:00 - [110] And Q, that log is a bad case of "Too many chiefs without enough indians".
QBall	Posted - 2003.09.01 16:20:00 - [111] Well before that everyone was following just fine, we had around 15-20 ships evolution had around 5 bships in the area. After that it was a fight to get the TTI fleet anywhere. -------- "OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!" -QBall And QQ is QQ
sutty	Posted - 2003.09.01 16:33:00 - [112] LOL OMG, what kinda logic was they using, just because I come 40 jumps does not mean im gonna risk lossing everything for nothing, I would stay there 10hrs to only get the one kill.

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