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radon8	Posted - 2006.02.12 15:11:00 - [31] Edited by: radon8 on 12/02/2006 15:11:15 Originally by: Sevarus James again, the OP was pointing us linux 'wine' users to the wine forums to vote for additional support for eve. Unlike some of the folks who cant read for some reason, this is to add 'voice' to the WINE developers to take a look at some of the issues we're still experiencing with wine and eve. Ha, glad to see that there are other folks who don't want to be shackled to windoze. Yes, Sevarus is quite right here. I'd like to see Eve run under Wine, but for that to happen, the Wine devs would need to know that their work would be wanted and appreciated; thats why they have the voting scheme so that folks can register what apps they most want to work. It has been fun watching the additional votes push Eve up the rankings... It is now at 5th place as the most wanted app; just passing WoW! Woot! :-D http://appdb.winehq.org/votestats.php
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.12 15:45:00 - [32] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/02/2006 15:44:56 I just voted, we're nearly 3rd -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is
DukDodgerz	Posted - 2006.02.12 15:55:00 - [33] Originally by: Guardian Alpha Those who still view Linux as something difficult and inferior have yet to learn the operating system. As a programmer and heavy patcher of the Linux kernel, I've learned that it's mostly fear of something unfamiliar that keeps people in the dark about the OS. I've said my peice, and voted for EVE support in the Linux WINE emulation project. same thing can be said of linux users that have yet to understand how to setup and use a MS OS. Lets toss out all the fixes, ignore content, shelve any future ideas of improvements....alll so the CCP coders can take the time to recode all of the EVE system to cater to a few whiners that are riders of the "IHATEMS" bandwagon... Learn how to use/setup/secure the MS OS, instead of hiding behind the linux skirt of incompatability. How many of you wannabe linux users actualy have a clue on how to write an OS, secure a PC, or write any code at all? how many earn a living (not just sc*****by working a second job like washing cars) MY VOTE - let EVE stay on the MS OS platform, and force the whiners to either use the EVE code on the platform it was written for, or they go rot in a corner while whining about the "to hard to learn MS OS" . . . 悪い人々は吸う
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.12 15:56:00 - [34] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/02/2006 15:56:35 Originally by: DukDodgerz Originally by: Guardian Alpha Those who still view Linux as something difficult and inferior have yet to learn the operating system. As a programmer and heavy patcher of the Linux kernel, I've learned that it's mostly fear of something unfamiliar that keeps people in the dark about the OS. I've said my peice, and voted for EVE support in the Linux WINE emulation project. same thing can be said of linux users that have yet to understand how to setup and use a MS OS. Lets toss out all the fixes, ignore content, shelve any future ideas of improvements....alll so the CCP coders can take the time to recode all of the EVE system to cater to a few whiners that are riders of the "IHATEMS" bandwagon... Learn how to use/setup/secure the MS OS, instead of hiding behind the linux skirt of incompatability. How many of you wannabe linux users actualy have a clue on how to write an OS, secure a PC, or write any code at all? how many earn a living (not just sc*****by working a second job like washing cars) MY VOTE - let EVE stay on the MS OS platform, and force the whiners to either use the EVE code on the platform it was written for, or they go rot in a corner while whining about the "to hard to learn MS OS" READ THE THREAD. This has NOTHING to do with CCP. The games with the highest numbers of votes get WINE developers to help fix WINE to make them run under Linux. Stop trolling. P.S. I don't know a single full-time linux user who can't understand and work on the code of an OS. And I know quite a number of full-time linux users. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is
DukDodgerz	Posted - 2006.02.12 15:57:00 - [35] Originally by: Sevarus James again, the OP was pointing us linux 'wine' users to the wine forums to vote for additional support for eve. Unlike some of the folks who cant read for some reason, this is to add 'voice' to the WINE developers to take a look at some of the issues we're still experiencing with wine and eve. To be clear, under Cedega (wineX port for games), EVE DOES run. Just not completely stable yet. There are some additional dx9 issues that are being addressed. Under wine (which is free, as in beer), there are more issues as wine itself is a more 'generic' platform for running windows programs under linux. Does it work? Yes it does. Is it perfect? Nope. But until the devs supporting it know that there's an issue with an application, they won't take a look. CCP does not, nor have thye ever produced DX9...that is a MS chunch of code, seems the Wine (whiner) group should go talk to MS about their problems... . . . 悪い人々は吸う
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:00:00 - [36] Originally by: DukDodgerz Edited by: DukDodgerz on 12/02/2006 15:58:07 Originally by: Sevarus James again, the OP was pointing us linux 'wine' users to the wine forums to vote for additional support for eve. Unlike some of the folks who cant read for some reason, this is to add 'voice' to the WINE developers to take a look at some of the issues we're still experiencing with wine and eve. To be clear, under Cedega (wineX port for games), EVE DOES run. Just not completely stable yet. There are some additional dx9 issues that are being addressed. Under wine (which is free, as in beer), there are more issues as wine itself is a more 'generic' platform for running windows programs under linux. Does it work? Yes it does. Is it perfect? Nope. But until the devs supporting it know that there's an issue with an application, they won't take a look. CCP does not, nor have thye ever produced DX9...that is a MS chunk of code, seems the Wine (whiner) group should go talk to MS about their problems... As I said before, this thread has NOTHING to do with CCP whatsoever. We are not asking CCP to do anything at all. At least read the thread before you troll. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is
DukDodgerz	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:04:00 - [37] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: DukDodgerz Edited by: DukDodgerz on 12/02/2006 15:58:07 Originally by: Sevarus James again, the OP was pointing us linux 'wine' users to the wine forums to vote for additional support for eve. Unlike some of the folks who cant read for some reason, this is to add 'voice' to the WINE developers to take a look at some of the issues we're still experiencing with wine and eve. To be clear, under Cedega (wineX port for games), EVE DOES run. Just not completely stable yet. There are some additional dx9 issues that are being addressed. Under wine (which is free, as in beer), there are more issues as wine itself is a more 'generic' platform for running windows programs under linux. Does it work? Yes it does. Is it perfect? Nope. But until the devs supporting it know that there's an issue with an application, they won't take a look. CCP does not, nor have thye ever produced DX9...that is a MS chunk of code, seems the Wine (whiner) group should go talk to MS about their problems... As I said before, this thread has NOTHING to do with CCP whatsoever. We are not asking CCP to do anything at all. At least read the thread before you troll. read the whole thread, and you sir, are trolling and insulting anyone that basicly tells you to go whine to someone else about linux issues. Eve is not ported, will not be ported, and this whole topic should be moved to "OUT OF POD" since it has NOTHING to do with CCP, EVE, or the platform EVE runs on. . . . 悪い人々は吸う
lofty29	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:06:00 - [38] Originally by: JamesTalon Bloody penguin, I hope Ethan guts the thing... I wonder if anyone even knows what I'm talking about Linux isn't that great in my opinion, but meh, I use my comp for gaming, not much else, so windows is easier Ctrl-Alt-Del ftw ---------------------------
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:06:00 - [39] Originally by: DukDodgerz Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: DukDodgerz Edited by: DukDodgerz on 12/02/2006 15:58:07 Originally by: Sevarus James again, the OP was pointing us linux 'wine' users to the wine forums to vote for additional support for eve. Unlike some of the folks who cant read for some reason, this is to add 'voice' to the WINE developers to take a look at some of the issues we're still experiencing with wine and eve. To be clear, under Cedega (wineX port for games), EVE DOES run. Just not completely stable yet. There are some additional dx9 issues that are being addressed. Under wine (which is free, as in beer), there are more issues as wine itself is a more 'generic' platform for running windows programs under linux. Does it work? Yes it does. Is it perfect? Nope. But until the devs supporting it know that there's an issue with an application, they won't take a look. CCP does not, nor have thye ever produced DX9...that is a MS chunk of code, seems the Wine (whiner) group should go talk to MS about their problems... As I said before, this thread has NOTHING to do with CCP whatsoever. We are not asking CCP to do anything at all. At least read the thread before you troll. read the whole thread, and you sir, are trolling and insulting anyone that basicly tells you to go whine to someone else about linux issues. Eve is not ported, will not be ported, and this whole topic should be moved to "OUT OF POD" since it has NOTHING to do with CCP, EVE, or the platform EVE runs on. Can you read? This thread is not asking for EVE to be ported! This, however, is about EVE. This forum is... EVE general discussion. Take your MS-fanboy Linux flaming elsewhere. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is
DukDodgerz	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:14:00 - [40] snip Flaming removed. -Capsicum . . . 悪い人々は吸う
Capsicum	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:20:00 - [41] How about you leave the decision to move a thread to the Moderators , eh ? This thread is about EVE, it's asking the community to petition the developers of WINE to make WINE support EVE. It's not asking CCP to do anything at all. Please stop going on about this point. Tulpen zijn gaaf he? Our Website \| forum rules \| [email protected] Bestrafe mich! RAWR!1 - Jacques'
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:24:00 - [42] Originally by: Capsicum How about you leave the decision to move a thread to the Moderators , eh ? This thread is about EVE, it's asking the community to petition the developers of WINE to make WINE support EVE. It's not asking CCP to do anything at all. Please stop going on about this point. Thanks Capsicum -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is
DukDodgerz	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:31:00 - [43] I vote NO now whine and cry to a mod to have that removed too . . . 悪い人々は吸う
lofty29	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:32:00 - [44] I dont see why. Everyone who has linux already should have a copy of windows. Therefore why dont you just revert back to that and stop wasting prescious man-hours at CCP HQ which could be put into finding a solution to lag or designing new content. ---------------------------
Karl Staf	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:42:00 - [45] Originally by: lofty29 I dont see why. Everyone who has linux already should have a copy of windows. Therefore why dont you just revert back to that and stop wasting prescious man-hours at CCP HQ which could be put into finding a solution to lag or designing new content. cant ppl read? noone is asking ccp to do anything. What is being asked for is that you participate in a vote that may bring eve to the atention of developers on a windows emulator in linux, so that eve may be playable in linux. nothing that will involve ccp in anny way. and no, everyone that has linux dont autoaticly has a copy of windows.. _________ http://blades.stylii.com (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:45:00 - [46] Originally by: Karl Staf Originally by: lofty29 I dont see why. Everyone who has linux already should have a copy of windows. Therefore why dont you just revert back to that and stop wasting prescious man-hours at CCP HQ which could be put into finding a solution to lag or designing new content. cant ppl read? noone is asking ccp to do anything. What is being asked for is that you participate in a vote that may bring eve to the atention of developers on a windows emulator in linux, so that eve may be playable in linux. nothing that will involve ccp in anny way. and no, everyone that has linux dont autoaticly has a copy of windows.. P.S. Wine Is Not An Emulator -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is
DukDodgerz	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:49:00 - [47] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Karl Staf Originally by: lofty29 I dont see why. Everyone who has linux already should have a copy of windows. Therefore why dont you just revert back to that and stop wasting prescious man-hours at CCP HQ which could be put into finding a solution to lag or designing new content. cant ppl read? noone is asking ccp to do anything. What is being asked for is that you participate in a vote that may bring eve to the atention of developers on a windows emulator in linux, so that eve may be playable in linux. nothing that will involve ccp in anny way. and no, everyone that has linux dont autoaticly has a copy of windows.. P.S. Wine Is Not An Emulator emulator by any other name.... it emulates the environment needed to run a program, thus, EMULATOR. . . . 悪い人々は吸う
Capsicum	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:52:00 - [48] Originally by: DukDodgerz emulator by any other name.... it emulates the environment needed to run a program, thus, EMULATOR. That's a common misunderstanding, have a look here ... Tulpen zijn gaaf he? Our Website \| forum rules \| [email protected] Bestrafe mich! RAWR!1 - Jacques'
Ander	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:58:00 - [49] Make eve run natively under Linux. Signed. Oh, and when the 64bit support petitions start Im also signing that in advance.
Scorpyn	Posted - 2006.02.12 17:25:00 - [50] Originally by: lofty29 I dont see why. Everyone who has linux already should have a copy of windows. Therefore why dont you just revert back to that and stop wasting prescious man-hours at CCP HQ which could be put into finding a solution to lag or designing new content. The second point has already been answered, but as to your first point : If you have something you like and something you don't like, why would you want to use the thing you don't like? btw only 4 more votes to beat that poker game that's currently on the 1st place _____________________________________ <insert something witty of your choice here>
Sevarus James	Posted - 2006.02.13 02:02:00 - [51] Just 2 more votes to be the top requested game for the wine devs. "No power in the 'verse can stop us now!"
Guardian Alpha	Posted - 2006.02.13 02:29:00 - [52] While the official WINE is a good start we need to also look into a petition vote for Cedega, as that has far more DX9/10 support than the origonal WINE. ------------------- "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." - Charles Darwin
Tachy	Posted - 2006.02.13 09:24:00 - [53] ccp knows what causes the problems under cedega for years and obviously they don't care to fix them. Minmatar structures and some sounds + the way the [ESC] menu is rendered(!!!) causes problems. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Tar om	Posted - 2006.02.13 09:56:00 - [54] OK, we're at the top... but with a rating of "Garbage" - what does that mean? -- We are the Octavian Vanguard www.octavianvanguard.net "The belief in the possibility of a short decisive war appears to be one of the most ancient and dangerous of human illusions."
Sybylle	Posted - 2006.02.13 11:10:00 - [55] You get my vote ^^ Site ICEÖ since 553768 AD
LNX Flocki	Posted - 2006.02.13 11:28:00 - [56] Originally by: Tar om OK, we're at the top... but with a rating of "Garbage" - what does that mean? http://appdb.winehq.org/help/?topic=maintainer_ratings It means it doesn't work and needs some work to be done before it'll run. Oh and vote submitted
Maestro Ulv	Posted - 2006.02.13 11:46:00 - [57] o/ Voted. Eve is one of the few things keeping me from moving for good to suse instead of cygwin to the server. http://phaze9.moonmanstudio.com/
rig0r	Posted - 2006.02.13 12:31:00 - [58] Voted
Pesadel0	Posted - 2006.02.13 13:14:00 - [59] Voted :)
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.02.13 13:18:00 - [60] Originally by: JamesTalon Bloody penguin, I hope Ethan guts the thing... I wonder if anyone even knows what I'm talking about Linux isn't that great in my opinion, but meh, I use my comp for gaming, not much else, so windows is easier ctrlaltdel ftw. As we all know, Linux is a better OS than Windows. However, Windows has the support, and programs and drivers made for it. Linux doesn't have this totally. And hence, Windows will always be superior for most people, and definitely for the gaming market, until developers are willing to spend a lot of money porting their stuff to a second platform. And if you think that's going to happen anytime in our lifetimes, you're mistaken. The Eve Guild Wars Project!

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