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radon8
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Posted - 2006.02.12 04:41:00 -
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I doubt CCP would ever have a linux version out soon, but you can register your support for EVE to work under WINE, the Linux Windows emulator which has a lot of DirectX 9 support, but not quite enough to get EVE running past the splash screen.
As you can see in the list below, EVE is already listed in the top 25 applications most wanted to fully work under Linux, but is behind many other games, including WoW.
http://appdb.winehq.org/votestats.php
If you would be interesting in being able to play EVE on a Linux OS, register with the WINE app db website and register your vote (or all 3 votes!) for the game.
http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=2249
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Luigi Thirty
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Posted - 2006.02.12 04:44:00 -
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Windows 98 SE.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.02.12 04:44:00 -
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No!
Stop being an arrogant elitist and buy Windows XP already.
-------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
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you wanted colours
now you have them :) -eris..again
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.02.12 04:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Luigi Thirty
Windows 98 SE.
Dude.....hard core....
Caldari Navy Surplus
Me < all mods ~JamesTalon Please don't lie in your sig in the future - Wrangler
Is sitting down ok? PS I changed it to worstest :) - Cortes |
Sevarus James
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Posted - 2006.02.12 05:00:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 12/02/2006 05:00:59
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
No!
Stop being an arrogant elitist and buy Windows XP already.
That response........from you........surprised me. The OP isn't asking for for a port specifically........rather giving people information.
Elitest? Arrogant? You spread the smack there with a broad brush methinks. I use Linux....for EVERYTHING....except EVE. I'm testing the EVE client under Cedega and giving feedback in our forums (tech) and also in the transgaming cedega forums, so I won't have to dual boot at some point.
Arrogant? I just got tired of mal/ad/spy/you-name-it/ ware, paying for Antivirus support, etc., etc. I still have an XP partition I irritatingly call my WIN-EVE-tendo side, so I can play the game. I'd love nothing more than at some point in THE NEAR FUTURE be able to delete that partition and have the room available for my primary operating system.
If that makes me arrogant........so be it. I thought it made me practical, and ABLE to spend more money on a longer EVE sub. (Money saved from AV software alone helped there.)
p.s. the OP should really look down in the Tech forum. We have a nice home and thread down there that has been working for quite awhile on information exchange about linux/wine/ports etc. We do feel neglected from any dev response, but hey, us ARROGANT types can deal with that. 
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.02.12 05:03:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 12/02/2006 05:03:33
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Stop being an arrogant elitist and buy Windows XP already.
Once again, your logic is staggering.
Staggeringly stupid, that is. Why should someone pay 100$ just to play EVE? Do you clean Microsoft's toilets for a living or something?
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Luigi Thirty
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Posted - 2006.02.12 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Airpizza II
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
No!
Stop being an arrogant elitist and buy Windows XP already.
I'm sorry if some of us dont enjoy paying 100+ extra usd for an o.s. when we buy a computer.
Not to mention in vista theres gona be DRM. I can hardly wait!!
What does XP have anything to do with Vista?
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Airpizza II
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Posted - 2006.02.12 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
No!
Stop being an arrogant elitist and buy Windows XP already.
I'm sorry if some of us dont enjoy paying 100+ extra usd for an o.s. when we buy a computer.
Not to mention in vista theres gona be DRM. I can hardly wait!!
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.02.12 05:05:00 -
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Bloody penguin, I hope Ethan guts the thing... I wonder if anyone even knows what I'm talking about 
Linux isn't that great in my opinion, but meh, I use my comp for gaming, not much else, so windows is easier
Caldari Navy Surplus
Me < all mods ~JamesTalon Please don't lie in your sig in the future - Wrangler
Is sitting down ok? PS I changed it to worstest :) - Cortes |
JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.02.12 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Luigi Thirty
Originally by: Airpizza II
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
No!
Stop being an arrogant elitist and buy Windows XP already.
I'm sorry if some of us dont enjoy paying 100+ extra usd for an o.s. when we buy a computer.
Not to mention in vista theres gona be DRM. I can hardly wait!!
What does XP have anything to do with Vista?
And what is DRM?
Caldari Navy Surplus
Me < all mods ~JamesTalon Please don't lie in your sig in the future - Wrangler
Is sitting down ok? PS I changed it to worstest :) - Cortes |
Sevarus James
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Posted - 2006.02.12 05:11:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 12/02/2006 05:12:25
From the responses here from trolls..........I felt as if I'd dropped away from EVE's more "mature" base into a WOW style forum or something. SHEESH people. The OP wasn't screaming for a port. He's giving out GOOD information. Please, if you don't have anything constructive to add, why in the hell are you posting smack?
Of course if the idea is start an OS flame war, you picked a silly thread to do it in. The argument isn't over WHAT IS BETTER, rather a post for us to get the WINE dev's to give additional attention to getting WINE working with EVE.
If you would have READ the OP you'd have realized this. Of course tis' easier to smack and flame, huh?
VISTA= NEXT VERSION OF XP.
DRM= Digital Rights Management (iirc). An evil way to lock down information, and a seriously bad invasion of privacy. (imho).
"No power in the 'verse can stop us now!" |
JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.02.12 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sevarus James
DRM= Digital Rights Management (iirc). An evil way to lock down information, and a seriously bad invasion of privacy. (imho).
Well, guess I won't be going out of my way to try it out in any form. I'll stick to my XP, even if they basically force you to upgrade by dropping support.
Caldari Navy Surplus
Me < all mods ~JamesTalon Please don't lie in your sig in the future - Wrangler
Is sitting down ok? PS I changed it to worstest :) - Cortes |
Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2006.02.12 05:32:00 -
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Those who still view Linux as something difficult and inferior have yet to learn the operating system. As a programmer and heavy patcher of the Linux kernel, I've learned that it's mostly fear of something unfamiliar that keeps people in the dark about the OS. I've said my peice, and voted for EVE support in the Linux WINE emulation project.
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2006.02.12 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
No!
Stop being an arrogant elitist and buy Windows XP already.
If I didn't play computer games I would have stopped using windows around 5 years ago. If you have a bit of technical knowledge and a little patience just about everything else can be done on Linux for less money and less hassle.
Eliteism? Nope just common sense.
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bumcheekcity
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Posted - 2006.02.12 08:10:00 -
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I asm specifically moving that EVE NOT be released under Linux now. I dont want them to port it over, I want them to fix the bugs that are in it yet.
This isnt a winge about bugs already in it, it's a huge game, I appreciate there will be bugs, but still, they need to be ironed out. Just use Windows already, for christ's sake... If you dont meet the minimum requirements to play the game, CCP shouldn't be expected to modify the game and release a whole new version for the minority of gamers.
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Gyrn Fzirth
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Posted - 2006.02.12 08:10:00 -
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yeah, how bout no?
Which of the 1500 flavors of linux will be supported? What about the varying qualities of the different drivers, the cobbled-together graphics support? What if I use Gnome instead of KDE? What if I run Solaris and am running a preview of Looking Glass?
Linux User: "Hi, I'd like some tech support please"
Eve Tech Support: "sure what can we do for you?"
LU: "Well, I'm having problems running Eve under linux"
ETS: "Okay, what version of linux?"
LU: "I'm running Gentoo with KDE. I haven't worked out the stupid bugs in the opengl drivers, but it should work anyway, right?"
ETS: "Sir, we only support RedHat 9 with Gnome."
LU: "Uh, what about Knoppix?"
ETS: "Nope"
LU: "Uh, Mandrake? I can run Gnome under mandrake I have it right here on my 15th partition!"
ETS: "Nope"
LU: "How about Solaris? I'll install it on my company's SunFires!"
ETS: "Solaris isn't linux, n00b"
LU: "Can you please help me make it work??!"
ETS: "You're screwed, not to mention a gimp (pun intended) for trying to run a game on a cobbled together 'unix-like' OS. BSD forever! Long live real Unix OS'!"
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0x52696368
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Posted - 2006.02.12 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
No!
Stop being an arrogant elitist and buy Windows XP already.
I don't particularly care about Eve on Linux, but that comment does nothing for your image whatsoever.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.02.12 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: 0x52696368
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
No!
Stop being an arrogant elitist and buy Windows XP already.
I don't particularly care about Eve on Linux, but that comment does nothing for your image whatsoever.
I don't give three flying ****s what you think of me or my image.
As for the rest of you, I stand by my statement. Linux is an underdeveloped and unsupported OS. If you want to use your computer for industrial purposes, get a real Unix OS. If you want to run consumer products, you need to get Windows. The world of consumer software is built for Windows, and that's the bottom line. In the end, I find that many people using Linux don't use it because Linux is a good OS, but rather because they just hate Microsoft and want to avoid any MS product like the plague. I don't like running my car's air-conditioner with CFC-free freon, but I accept that it's a reality and resisting it is moronic.
-------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
\o/ ~kieron
[\"] -Capsicum
<3 -eris
you wanted colours
now you have them :) -eris..again
Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' |
Sevarus James
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Posted - 2006.02.12 10:13:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 12/02/2006 10:13:45
and yet Nik, you missed the ENTIRE POINT of the OP..which had NOTHING to do with your OS of choice, rather a vote in the WINE forums for additional support FROM WINE for EVE. Good f'in gawds pull the blinders off. It has NOTHING to do with a port. So get the frick over yerself. sheesh.
"No power in the 'verse can stop us now!" |
Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.02.12 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sevarus James
and yet Nik, you missed the ENTIRE POINT of the OP..which had NOTHING to do with your OS of choice, rather a vote in the WINE forums for additional support FROM WINE for EVE. Good f'in gawds pull the blinders off. It has NOTHING to do with a port. So get the frick over yerself. sheesh.
I never said anything about a port. MY point was that people need to stop searching for a way to run Windows programs without Windows. I defy you to find the word "port" anywhere in my response.
-------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
\o/ ~kieron
[\"] -Capsicum
<3 -eris
you wanted colours
now you have them :) -eris..again
Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' |
Sevarus James
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Posted - 2006.02.12 10:24:00 -
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Then, you actually don't have anything constructive to say in this thread which is of importance to those of us who actually DO give a fig. So you are just tryin' to jack the thread with self important known nothing dreck. I see. And I'm so not surprised how by this?
"No power in the 'verse can stop us now!" |
Aldanor
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Posted - 2006.02.12 10:34:00 -
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Wouldnt it be an issue to bring up with the WINE devs rather than ccp if its an issue with the dx9 support. Eve definately works 100% in directx9 on windoze so its not ccp making it not work.
Originally by: Guardian Alpha
As a programmer and heavy patcher of the Linux kernel
Love how ppl that program try and tell ppl its easy :P
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Morke
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Posted - 2006.02.12 10:35:00 -
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Guys, I already read reports of guys playing EVE successfully on linux using Cedega.
I have not tried it myself but what I heared it works well enough to play, even though there are some minor restrictions.
Morke
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Sevarus James
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Posted - 2006.02.12 10:41:00 -
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again, the OP was pointing us linux 'wine' users to the wine forums to vote for additional support for eve. Unlike some of the folks who cant read for some reason, this is to add 'voice' to the WINE developers to take a look at some of the issues we're still experiencing with wine and eve.
To be clear, under Cedega (wineX port for games), EVE DOES run. Just not completely stable yet. There are some additional dx9 issues that are being addressed. Under wine (which is free, as in beer), there are more issues as wine itself is a more 'generic' platform for running windows programs under linux. Does it work? Yes it does. Is it perfect? Nope. But until the devs supporting it know that there's an issue with an application, they won't take a look.
That's all this was originally about...till the hijacking began.........which is for some reason, usual in this forum. shrugs.
"No power in the 'verse can stop us now!" |
MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.02.12 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 12/02/2006 05:03:33
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Stop being an arrogant elitist and buy Windows XP already.
Once again, your logic is staggering.
Staggeringly stupid, that is. Why should someone pay 100$ just to play EVE? Do you clean Microsoft's toilets for a living or something?
You pay more than that to play eve every year. Also, second hand Windows 98 SE copy will cost you $15 or less.
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Sim Frost
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Posted - 2006.02.12 11:09:00 -
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NO
Games: Linux 0 Windows 1
Driver support: Linux 0 Windows 1
Updates: Linux 0 Windows 1
Security: Linux 1 Windows 0
User friendly: Linux 0 Windows 1
Application range: Linux 0 Windows 1
Results: Linux 0 Windows 1
Guess I will continue to pay $100, since I actually want to install things and run them rather soon. /shrug for Gatesbashing
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marikis
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Posted - 2006.02.12 11:59:00 -
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As someone has already mentioned you can run eve on linux if you use cedega, that is the setup i have and the game runs perfectly well, the only issue i have is that the escape key does not work in game it locks the game up, so i don't use the escape key!
I have been playing eve for about 2 months now and with no issues, i was even able to update eve to rmr from within cedega which i thought was pretty cool
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2006.02.12 12:03:00 -
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Thread cleaned, please keep your comments on topic.
Oh and yeah, I read CTRL+ALT+DEL
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.02.12 14:01:00 -
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I was actually gonna make this post aswell, but you beat me to it
Already voted btw
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.12 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/02/2006 14:06:29
People seem to misunderstand this.
They're not petitioning CCP to release a linux client.
They're petitioning with WINE to get EVE working fully on WINE.
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You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes
Immy > You All - Imaran
Tachikomas > All ~kieron
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radon8
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Posted - 2006.02.12 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: radon8 on 12/02/2006 15:11:15
Originally by: Sevarus James
again, the OP was pointing us linux 'wine' users to the wine forums to vote for additional support for eve. Unlike some of the folks who cant read for some reason, this is to add 'voice' to the WINE developers to take a look at some of the issues we're still experiencing with wine and eve.
Ha, glad to see that there are other folks who don't want to be shackled to windoze. Yes, Sevarus is quite right here. I'd like to see Eve run under Wine, but for that to happen, the Wine devs would need to know that their work would be wanted and appreciated; thats why they have the voting scheme so that folks can register what apps they most want to work.
It has been fun watching the additional votes push Eve up the rankings... It is now at 5th place as the most wanted app; just passing WoW! Woot! :-D
http://appdb.winehq.org/votestats.php
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.12 15:45:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/02/2006 15:44:56
I just voted, we're nearly 3rd
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The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
<3 Tachikomas -Eldo
But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler
I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde
You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes
Immy > You All - Imaran
Tachikomas > All ~kieron
POKEMON -eris
Jacques was 'ere
Capsicum still is |
DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.02.12 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha
Those who still view Linux as something difficult and inferior have yet to learn the operating system. As a programmer and heavy patcher of the Linux kernel, I've learned that it's mostly fear of something unfamiliar that keeps people in the dark about the OS. I've said my peice, and voted for EVE support in the Linux WINE emulation project.
same thing can be said of linux users that have yet to understand how to setup and use a MS OS.
Lets toss out all the fixes, ignore content, shelve any future ideas of improvements....alll so the CCP coders can take the time to recode all of the EVE system to cater to a few whiners that are riders of the "IHATEMS" bandwagon...
Learn how to use/setup/secure the MS OS, instead of hiding behind the linux skirt of incompatability.
How many of you wannabe linux users actualy have a clue on how to write an OS, secure a PC, or write any code at all? how many earn a living (not just sc*****by working a second job like washing cars)
MY VOTE - let EVE stay on the MS OS platform, and force the whiners to either use the EVE code on the platform it was written for, or they go rot in a corner while whining about the "to hard to learn MS OS"
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.12 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/02/2006 15:56:35
Originally by: DukDodgerz
Originally by: Guardian Alpha
Those who still view Linux as something difficult and inferior have yet to learn the operating system. As a programmer and heavy patcher of the Linux kernel, I've learned that it's mostly fear of something unfamiliar that keeps people in the dark about the OS. I've said my peice, and voted for EVE support in the Linux WINE emulation project.
same thing can be said of linux users that have yet to understand how to setup and use a MS OS.
Lets toss out all the fixes, ignore content, shelve any future ideas of improvements....alll so the CCP coders can take the time to recode all of the EVE system to cater to a few whiners that are riders of the "IHATEMS" bandwagon...
Learn how to use/setup/secure the MS OS, instead of hiding behind the linux skirt of incompatability.
How many of you wannabe linux users actualy have a clue on how to write an OS, secure a PC, or write any code at all? how many earn a living (not just sc*****by working a second job like washing cars)
MY VOTE - let EVE stay on the MS OS platform, and force the whiners to either use the EVE code on the platform it was written for, or they go rot in a corner while whining about the "to hard to learn MS OS"
READ THE THREAD.
This has NOTHING to do with CCP.
The games with the highest numbers of votes get WINE developers to help fix WINE to make them run under Linux.
Stop trolling.
P.S. I don't know a single full-time linux user who can't understand and work on the code of an OS. And I know quite a number of full-time linux users.
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<3 Tachikomas -Eldo
But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler
I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde
You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes
Immy > You All - Imaran
Tachikomas > All ~kieron
POKEMON -eris
Jacques was 'ere
Capsicum still is |
DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.02.12 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sevarus James
again, the OP was pointing us linux 'wine' users to the wine forums to vote for additional support for eve. Unlike some of the folks who cant read for some reason, this is to add 'voice' to the WINE developers to take a look at some of the issues we're still experiencing with wine and eve.
To be clear, under Cedega (wineX port for games), EVE DOES run. Just not completely stable yet. There are some additional dx9 issues that are being addressed. Under wine (which is free, as in beer), there are more issues as wine itself is a more 'generic' platform for running windows programs under linux. Does it work? Yes it does. Is it perfect? Nope. But until the devs supporting it know that there's an issue with an application, they won't take a look.
CCP does not, nor have thye ever produced DX9...that is a MS chunch of code, seems the Wine (whiner) group should go talk to MS about their problems...
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:00:00 -
[36]
Originally by: DukDodgerz
Edited by: DukDodgerz on 12/02/2006 15:58:07
Originally by: Sevarus James
again, the OP was pointing us linux 'wine' users to the wine forums to vote for additional support for eve. Unlike some of the folks who cant read for some reason, this is to add 'voice' to the WINE developers to take a look at some of the issues we're still experiencing with wine and eve.
To be clear, under Cedega (wineX port for games), EVE DOES run. Just not completely stable yet. There are some additional dx9 issues that are being addressed. Under wine (which is free, as in beer), there are more issues as wine itself is a more 'generic' platform for running windows programs under linux. Does it work? Yes it does. Is it perfect? Nope. But until the devs supporting it know that there's an issue with an application, they won't take a look.
CCP does not, nor have thye ever produced DX9...that is a MS chunk of code, seems the Wine (whiner) group should go talk to MS about their problems...
As I said before, this thread has NOTHING to do with CCP whatsoever. We are not asking CCP to do anything at all. At least read the thread before you troll.
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The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
<3 Tachikomas -Eldo
But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler
I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde
You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes
Immy > You All - Imaran
Tachikomas > All ~kieron
POKEMON -eris
Jacques was 'ere
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:04:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: DukDodgerz
Edited by: DukDodgerz on 12/02/2006 15:58:07
Originally by: Sevarus James
again, the OP was pointing us linux 'wine' users to the wine forums to vote for additional support for eve. Unlike some of the folks who cant read for some reason, this is to add 'voice' to the WINE developers to take a look at some of the issues we're still experiencing with wine and eve.
To be clear, under Cedega (wineX port for games), EVE DOES run. Just not completely stable yet. There are some additional dx9 issues that are being addressed. Under wine (which is free, as in beer), there are more issues as wine itself is a more 'generic' platform for running windows programs under linux. Does it work? Yes it does. Is it perfect? Nope. But until the devs supporting it know that there's an issue with an application, they won't take a look.
CCP does not, nor have thye ever produced DX9...that is a MS chunk of code, seems the Wine (whiner) group should go talk to MS about their problems...
As I said before, this thread has NOTHING to do with CCP whatsoever. We are not asking CCP to do anything at all. At least read the thread before you troll.
read the whole thread, and you sir, are trolling and insulting anyone that basicly tells you to go whine to someone else about linux issues.
Eve is not ported, will not be ported, and this whole topic should be moved to "OUT OF POD" since it has NOTHING to do with CCP, EVE, or the platform EVE runs on.
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:06:00 -
[38]
Originally by: JamesTalon
Bloody penguin, I hope Ethan guts the thing... I wonder if anyone even knows what I'm talking about
Linux isn't that great in my opinion, but meh, I use my comp for gaming, not much else, so windows is easier
Ctrl-Alt-Del ftw
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:06:00 -
[39]
Originally by: DukDodgerz
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: DukDodgerz
Edited by: DukDodgerz on 12/02/2006 15:58:07
Originally by: Sevarus James
again, the OP was pointing us linux 'wine' users to the wine forums to vote for additional support for eve. Unlike some of the folks who cant read for some reason, this is to add 'voice' to the WINE developers to take a look at some of the issues we're still experiencing with wine and eve.
To be clear, under Cedega (wineX port for games), EVE DOES run. Just not completely stable yet. There are some additional dx9 issues that are being addressed. Under wine (which is free, as in beer), there are more issues as wine itself is a more 'generic' platform for running windows programs under linux. Does it work? Yes it does. Is it perfect? Nope. But until the devs supporting it know that there's an issue with an application, they won't take a look.
CCP does not, nor have thye ever produced DX9...that is a MS chunk of code, seems the Wine (whiner) group should go talk to MS about their problems...
As I said before, this thread has NOTHING to do with CCP whatsoever. We are not asking CCP to do anything at all. At least read the thread before you troll.
read the whole thread, and you sir, are trolling and insulting anyone that basicly tells you to go whine to someone else about linux issues.
Eve is not ported, will not be ported, and this whole topic should be moved to "OUT OF POD" since it has NOTHING to do with CCP, EVE, or the platform EVE runs on.
Can you read? This thread is not asking for EVE to be ported!
This, however, is about EVE. This forum is... EVE general discussion.
Take your MS-fanboy Linux flaming elsewhere.
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:14:00 -
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*snip*
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:20:00 -
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How about you leave the decision to move a thread to the Moderators , eh ?
This thread is about EVE, it's asking the community to petition the developers of WINE to make WINE support EVE.
It's not asking CCP to do anything at all.
Please stop going on about this point.
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Capsicum
How about you leave the decision to move a thread to the Moderators , eh ?
This thread is about EVE, it's asking the community to petition the developers of WINE to make WINE support EVE.
It's not asking CCP to do anything at all.
Please stop going on about this point.
Thanks Capsicum
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:31:00 -
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I vote NO
now whine and cry to a mod to have that removed too
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:32:00 -
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I dont see why. Everyone who has linux already should have a copy of windows. Therefore why dont you just revert back to that and stop wasting prescious man-hours at CCP HQ which could be put into finding a solution to lag or designing new content.
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
I dont see why. Everyone who has linux already should have a copy of windows. Therefore why dont you just revert back to that and stop wasting prescious man-hours at CCP HQ which could be put into finding a solution to lag or designing new content.
cant ppl read?
noone is asking ccp to do anything. What is being asked for is that you participate in a vote that may bring eve to the atention of developers on a windows emulator in linux, so that eve may be playable in linux. nothing that will involve ccp in anny way.
and no, everyone that has linux dont autoaticly has a copy of windows..
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Staf
Originally by: lofty29
I dont see why. Everyone who has linux already should have a copy of windows. Therefore why dont you just revert back to that and stop wasting prescious man-hours at CCP HQ which could be put into finding a solution to lag or designing new content.
cant ppl read?
noone is asking ccp to do anything. What is being asked for is that you participate in a vote that may bring eve to the atention of developers on a windows emulator in linux, so that eve may be playable in linux. nothing that will involve ccp in anny way.
and no, everyone that has linux dont autoaticly has a copy of windows..
P.S. Wine Is Not An Emulator
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Karl Staf
Originally by: lofty29
I dont see why. Everyone who has linux already should have a copy of windows. Therefore why dont you just revert back to that and stop wasting prescious man-hours at CCP HQ which could be put into finding a solution to lag or designing new content.
cant ppl read?
noone is asking ccp to do anything. What is being asked for is that you participate in a vote that may bring eve to the atention of developers on a windows emulator in linux, so that eve may be playable in linux. nothing that will involve ccp in anny way.
and no, everyone that has linux dont autoaticly has a copy of windows..
P.S. Wine Is Not An Emulator
emulator by any other name....
it emulates the environment needed to run a program, thus, EMULATOR.
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: DukDodgerz
emulator by any other name....
it emulates the environment needed to run a program, thus, EMULATOR.
That's a common misunderstanding, have a look here ...
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Posted - 2006.02.12 16:58:00 -
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Make eve run natively under Linux.
Signed.
Oh, and when the 64bit support petitions start Im also signing that in advance.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.02.12 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
I dont see why. Everyone who has linux already should have a copy of windows. Therefore why dont you just revert back to that and stop wasting prescious man-hours at CCP HQ which could be put into finding a solution to lag or designing new content.
The second point has already been answered, but as to your first point :
If you have something you like and something you don't like, why would you want to use the thing you don't like?
btw only 4 more votes to beat that poker game that's currently on the 1st place
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Posted - 2006.02.13 02:02:00 -
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Just 2 more votes to be the top requested game for the wine devs.
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Posted - 2006.02.13 02:29:00 -
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While the official WINE is a good start we need to also look into a petition vote for Cedega, as that has far more DX9/10 support than the origonal WINE.
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Posted - 2006.02.13 09:24:00 -
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ccp knows what causes the problems under cedega for years and obviously they don't care to fix them.
Minmatar structures and some sounds + the way the [ESC] menu is rendered(!!!) causes problems.
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Posted - 2006.02.13 09:56:00 -
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OK, we're at the top... but with a rating of "Garbage" - what does that mean?
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Posted - 2006.02.13 11:10:00 -
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You get my vote ^^
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Posted - 2006.02.13 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tar om
OK, we're at the top... but with a rating of "Garbage" - what does that mean?
http://appdb.winehq.org/help/?topic=maintainer_ratings
It means it doesn't work and needs some work to be done before it'll run.
Oh and vote submitted
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Posted - 2006.02.13 11:46:00 -
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o/ Voted.
Eve is one of the few things keeping me from moving for good to suse instead of cygwin to the server.
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rig0r
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Posted - 2006.02.13 12:31:00 -
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Voted
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:14:00 -
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Voted :)
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: JamesTalon
Bloody penguin, I hope Ethan guts the thing... I wonder if anyone even knows what I'm talking about
Linux isn't that great in my opinion, but meh, I use my comp for gaming, not much else, so windows is easier
ctrlaltdel ftw.
As we all know, Linux is a better OS than Windows.
However, Windows has the support, and programs and drivers made for it. Linux doesn't have this totally.
And hence, Windows will always be superior for most people, and definitely for the gaming market, until developers are willing to spend a lot of money porting their stuff to a second platform.
And if you think that's going to happen anytime in our lifetimes, you're mistaken.
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:21:00 -
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Go away!
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rig0r
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Originally by: JamesTalon
Bloody penguin, I hope Ethan guts the thing... I wonder if anyone even knows what I'm talking about
Linux isn't that great in my opinion, but meh, I use my comp for gaming, not much else, so windows is easier
ctrlaltdel ftw.
As we all know, Linux is a better OS than Windows.
However, Windows has the support, and programs and drivers made for it. Linux doesn't have this totally.
And hence, Windows will always be superior for most people, and definitely for the gaming market, until developers are willing to spend a lot of money porting their stuff to a second platform.
And if you think that's going to happen anytime in our lifetimes, you're mistaken.
Lies. More and more game developers create their games for both windows and linux. Quake4, UT2004 are perfect examples. There is no need to port anything if you use the right (cross-platform) libraries where possible. Ofcourse there is always extra work involved but porting an entire game is not always necessary.
Anyway this thread is NOT ABOUT A NATIVE EVE CLIENT but about better EVE support in WINE.
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:39:00 -
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Just a bit of info for those voting. I'm a paying subscriber to cedega (transgaming) and have already voted there. For a time, EVE wasn't on the list of supported games at all, but that has changed. Enough of us EVE-ers put in votes there, so it does show in the database now. (RMR).
Our thread is the largest in the "other" category, and has NEARLY the largest count even amongst the 'named' game sub-forums.
We're not quite there yet for stability, but its getting better.
WOW and Guildwars are (last I checked) now fully supported, and some users in those forums are reporting better FPS than they were getting on the native windows side.
Again, this thread isn't about porting, rather getting our members who WANT an alternative to raise their voices to the wine folks. Getting us to the top in the games list for MMO's in WINE.........made me smile.....er....makes me smile. :)
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:45:00 -
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Um? Eve WORKS with WineX
Seen people running it and threads on it before.
But I won't vote simply because I don't use Linux as an OS - I found I was spending my time fighting it (and yes, I'm a computing professional) rather than getting anything done. Open Office is the sort of example you want to hold up as Open Source, not Linux.
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:52:00 -
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Um, Maya, wineX = CEDEGA. It does work......but not well, and has issues with some parts of the game. (most notably settings window, file handling and a few DX issues that still need to be ironed out).
As for the wine voting, it is the main fork of wine, and I've personally spoken with a few of the folks working on it...one of which I KNOW plays EVE. Getting more than just one fork to work well, can only mean good things.
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Um? Eve WORKS with WineX
And WineX costs money.
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:59:00 -
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Voted!
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.02.13 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha
While the official WINE is a good start we need to also look into a petition vote for Cedega, as that has far more DX9/10 support than the origonal WINE.
I would have voted for EVE with cedega aswell, but the problem is that I have to pay a monthly fee just to be able to vote, and with eve reported as being somewhat unstable on cedega I don't consider it worth the money (yet, but that may change in the future).
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Posted - 2006.02.13 18:47:00 -
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In all seriousness they'd be better off working on a Mac client. I'm sorry but I really don't think CCP should invest ANY time or resources into a Linux supported client that will only cater to an extremely small percentage of their gaming population. They're a small company with limited resources. Why should they waste time, money and resources into something that will have no return? You guys can thump your Linux bibles all you want but face it, you're in a very, very small minority and pose no profit to CCP.
Wish I had a dollar for every bloody Linux thread that pops up.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.13 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Memphis Raines
In all seriousness they'd be better off working on a Mac client. I'm sorry but I really don't think CCP should invest ANY time or resources into a Linux supported client that will only cater to an extremely small percentage of their gaming population. They're a small company with limited resources. Why should they waste time, money and resources into something that will have no return? You guys can thump your Linux bibles all you want but face it, you're in a very, very small minority and pose no profit to CCP.
Wish I had a dollar for every bloody Linux thread that pops up.
READ THE THREAD AGAIN.
And again.
And again.
This thread has absolutely nothing to do with CCP doing anything whatsoever.
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Posted - 2006.02.13 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Memphis Raines
In all seriousness they'd be better off working on a Mac client. I'm sorry but I really don't think CCP should invest ANY time or resources into a Linux supported client that will only cater to an extremely small percentage of their gaming population. They're a small company with limited resources. Why should they waste time, money and resources into something that will have no return? You guys can thump your Linux bibles all you want but face it, you're in a very, very small minority and pose no profit to CCP.
Wish I had a dollar for every bloody Linux thread that pops up.
And I wish I got a dollar for every person who thought that this thread is asking CCP to lift a finger! lol You are quite right though.. if CCP was to make another client Mac OS X would be the next most popular OS; but that is for another thread.
I just want to say thanks to all the folks who voted. Eve is now top of the list of most wanted apps to work under WINE :) I wish I had the DirectX skills to help with the coding work, but this should help at least raise the priority of getting the work done.
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Posted - 2006.02.13 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Um? Eve WORKS with WineX
And WineX costs money.
Actually winex (cedega) is free if you download the source and compile it yourself. It only costs money (oh no a whopping $5/month for 3 months) if you want to download the precompiled binaries with copy protection support. Since Eve has no copy protection you don't have to use the binaries.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.13 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Taerenius
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Um? Eve WORKS with WineX
And WineX costs money.
Actually winex (cedega) is free if you download the source and compile it yourself. It only costs money (oh no a whopping $5/month for 3 months) if you want to download the precompiled binaries with copy protection support. Since Eve has no copy protection you don't have to use the binaries.
Last time I downloaded the CVS and compiled it I got about 300 seperate compile errors.
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Posted - 2006.02.14 04:02:00 -
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If any of you just wanted to try Cedega, they now have a 14 day evaluation trial you can download. I pay for Cedega in hope that they'll one day support EVE.
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Posted - 2006.02.14 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha
Those who still view Linux as something difficult and inferior have yet to learn the operating system.
OS Bigot ;)
Sorry, I've used, administered, and programmed on Linux since the 0.95 kernel days, and still use it for servers. I don't think the X-windows desktop will ever be good enough to make me switch my workstation though.... at least until X gets a total rewrite and the Gnome/KDE folks stop fighting.
Do I want EVE running under Wine? I really don't care, except that I don't want CCP to waste any resources on it. If the WINE folk email the devs, and they have the time to reply... fantastic. But I don't want them to TAKE time away from improving EVE, just to satisfy a small minority of people who, frankly and IMHO, are too stubborn to use the right tool for the right job.
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Posted - 2006.02.14 09:33:00 -
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Kim, again, please read the thread or at least REALLY read the OP. This isn't about CCP doing a damn thing. Its about getting the members who USE linux to go to the wine page and VOTE for our app to get ATTENTION by the wine developers.
How many times does this have to be said? Is it something about the word "linux" that gets certain portions of the population up in arms? I simply do NOT understand this.
Also: confirming that cedega (transgaming) has opened up the commercial version of cedega for a 14 day trial.
I personally pay the membership fee as I know that its not just EVE that gets help, but our community overall as we can just use the OS of CHOICE and be able to use applications without concern over that choice.
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Posted - 2006.02.14 10:05:00 -
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Folks,
If this thread descends into OS FUD, then I'll have no choice but to lock it.
If you want to argue the relative merits of Windows VS Linux, please go elsewhere
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Posted - 2006.02.14 10:07:00 -
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ILL VOTE! SIGNED!
Either a linux client or just make the servers linux, atleast they will work then...
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Posted - 2006.02.14 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Memphis Raines
In all seriousness they'd be better off working on a Mac client. I'm sorry but I really don't think CCP should invest ANY time or resources into a Linux supported client that will only cater to an extremely small percentage of their gaming population. They're a small company with limited resources. Why should they waste time, money and resources into something that will have no return? You guys can thump your Linux bibles all you want but face it, you're in a very, very small minority and pose no profit to CCP.
Wish I had a dollar for every bloody Linux thread that pops up.
You realize that the underpinning of linux and MacOS are BOTH Unix based right? If it natively ran on OSX it'd be trivial to get running in linux.
If there are a zillion linux threads wouldnt that tell you that the OS is used. Alot? How many MocOS client threads do you see? How many linux threads? Hundreds of thousands of us now use linux as our primary OS. The reason tis not "reported" anywhere is because there are no sales figures as there are with OSX and Windows.. no where to get statistics from. You don't buy linux. You download an image then every so often run teh updater and depending on which distro you use, either grabs all the binaries off the net to update you to the current state (kinda of like windows update but for ALL your applicatiosn too) or downloads the source off the internet and compiles it specifically for your archetecture (machine).
There is no way to track such figures accurately.
In the server world its a bit different. You can spider web sites and see which os is hosting them.. so its easy to grab figures there. Which btw, shows linux/unix way outnumber windows machines for this type of thing.
My point is if you could accurately guage how many people are unsing linux on thier desktop, you might be VERY suprised.
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Ayepocsz
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Posted - 2006.02.14 15:15:00 -
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You choose to use linux because you want to look like a pro. You wish to be seen as the expert. You want to do everything manually.
Dont expect support when you choose the hard way.
*dont use linux unless you really really really mean it ;) (and YES i know some uses where i would chose linux)
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Andrymeda
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Posted - 2006.02.14 15:46:00 -
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I'd rather CCP keep their resources on the existing product. They've got more work to do.
And someone in this thread posted a link or page that tried to send me a cookie. Tsk-tsk.
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Zippy Pinno
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:00:00 -
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Voted
PS - Its easy to write portable code. Not to do so is shortsighted and weak.
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rig0r
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Andrymeda
I'd rather CCP keep their resources on the existing product. They've got more work to do.
And someone in this thread posted a link or page that tried to send me a cookie. Tsk-tsk.
Read the topic. Then reply. It's not that hard.
If you can't do that, stay off the forums mkay ?
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:05:00 -
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i have bad expirience with linux
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David Sinclair
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kim Chee
Sorry, I've used, administered, and programmed on Linux since the 0.95 kernel days, and still use it for servers. I don't think the X-windows desktop will ever be good enough to make me switch my workstation though.... at least until X gets a total rewrite and the Gnome/KDE folks stop fighting.
All the major distributions are switching from XFree to Xorg, which is in the process of re-writing the whole thing. Who cares if Gnome/KDE fight? Pick one and run with it. Choice is not a bad thing. I'm currently running KDE, and the feature set is much larger than windows and feels much more responsive. What is it that windows provides as a better workstation than Linux? Frankly, when I am forced to use windows, due to the few unportable applications, I feel like I'm taking a giant leap backward in UI standards...
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Do I want EVE running under Wine? I really don't care, except that I don't want CCP to waste any resources on it. If the WINE folk email the devs, and they have the time to reply... fantastic. But I don't want them to TAKE time away from improving EVE, just to satisfy a small minority of people who, frankly and IMHO, are too stubborn to use the right tool for the right job.
It's interesting that you put it that way. I use Linux for my job. Not only does it integrate properly with the necessarily elements I need to get work done, it plays games very well. Doom 3, Quake 4, and Neverwinter Nights all run native perfectly. I used to play WoW, which ran perfectly through cedega. I can even run Eve through Cedega, though due to some really wierd bugs performance is sub-par (though stability is not an issue, it's only crashed once or twice).
Linux is more than capable of gaming performance. If you don't want Eve to run under Linux, that's fine. But why do you feel the need to step in here and flame those who do?
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Katie Wise
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:40:00 -
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Wine FTL!!!!
I'm all for more OS support but linux? How about AIX? And if we are attempting to get more supported OSes.. lets not emmulate... pure port please!
p690 Regatta FTW! :)
How about a 390 build too. /snicker
You might be able to run Eve on linux using VM ware to emulate a full windows install.
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Roxors
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:44:00 -
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wine is cool and it would be nice to see it support eve.. i know alot of people that would love to run eve on an open source platform.
personally i use windows for gaming.. the reason for that is when im done working for the day i dont want to hear jack schlitz about dependancies or incompatabilities. for my servers at work i take full advantage of open source software (freebsd ftw!!) but for a desktop os windows is a little more user friendly. to put it simply.. i'll run my games on an open source platform when freebsd puts them in the ports collection.
but yes.. wine and sedega support would be sweet. like i said.. i know lots of people that enjoy the academia of gaming on OS's not designed for that purpose..
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:46:00 -
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Why is there always a fetish with Linux and EvE?
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:04:00 -
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Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 14/02/2006 17:05:47
I work for a software support team, and I despise apple macintoshes.
However That said, I would love to open the Eve online market up to Apple users.
as for linux Im neither for or against, to be honest you dont have to use linux you could just use windows. But then thats just another topic alltogether.
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Justus Imperius
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: radon8
I doubt CCP would ever have a linux version out soon, but you can register your support for EVE to work under WINE, the Linux Windows emulator which has a lot of DirectX 9 support, but not quite enough to get EVE running past the splash screen.
As you can see in the list below, EVE is already listed in the top 25 applications most wanted to fully work under Linux, but is behind many other games, including WoW.
http://appdb.winehq.org/votestats.php
If you would be interesting in being able to play EVE on a Linux OS, register with the WINE app db website and register your vote (or all 3 votes!) for the game.
http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=2249
Look, we ahve been over this so many times, EVE is a game, and 97% STATISCALLY PC use windows, end of story.
EVE will never be a linux base game. Linux is basically a coers platform, not a gamers platform.
Stop makiing these stupid posts
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Marac Ranliem
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:24:00 -
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/signed I would love a native client, Cedega(WineX) just doesnt cut it for eve as its not officially supported and it has a few too many problems.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:38:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Katie Wise
You might be able to run Eve on linux using VM ware to emulate a full windows install.
Nope, you can't install directx in vmware unless they have greatly improved it since I tried it - the reason being that it's emulating all hardware aswell, and the emulated hardware is not capable of doing things that directx needs it to do.
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Suvetar
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:49:00 -
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Title changed, maybe people will stop mis-interpreting this thread now.
Maybe.
To the people posting "/signed" please vote on the Wine site instead - the URL is listed in the op post.
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:49:00 -
[94]
Title changed, maybe people will stop mis-interpreting this thread now.
Maybe.
To the people posting "/signed" please vote on the Wine site instead - the URL is listed in the op post.
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Geistkonig
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Posted - 2006.02.15 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: Andrymeda
I'd rather CCP keep their resources on the existing product. They've got more work to do.
And someone in this thread posted a link or page that tried to send me a cookie. Tsk-tsk.
Hide, before Shikari sees your post
This is NOT about making CCP do anything. They got EVE working under Windows. It's now up to the WINE folks to get EVE working under GNU/Linux.
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Geistkonig
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Posted - 2006.02.15 04:08:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Scorpyn
Originally by: Katie Wise
You might be able to run Eve on linux using VM ware to emulate a full windows install.
Nope, you can't install directx in vmware unless they have greatly improved it since I tried it - the reason being that it's emulating all hardware aswell, and the emulated hardware is not capable of doing things that directx needs it to do.
Just to clarify...
WINE runs Windows apps without emulating the entire Windows OS or creating any sort of virtual machine.
Running EVE on VMWare involves first creating a virtual machine under Linux, then running the entire Windows OS on that machine, and *then* starting EVE under that copy of Windows. Even if everything worked perfectly, it'd overload your hardware to the nth degree, and would be entirely impractical for daily use to start vmware >> start windows >> open eve >> wait fifteen minutes for the screen to refresh.
WINE on the other hand runs without creating a virtual machine, or running another full OS... it merely does magic with libraries, DLLs, DirectX, and other such things that don't *quite* support EVE on Linux at the present time, but could quite possibly run EVE well if the devs put some serious time into it.
Long winded of me, and probably unnecessary...
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Fooball
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Posted - 2006.02.16 13:48:00 -
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The advantage with WINE support is that it makes Eve work on Macs, Linux systems, *BSD and others with the same effort. They don't even have to support or modify the Eve Client.
All they would have to do is to install Wine with debugging mode themselves, look at what functions make wine go haywire, look at their own code and copy&paste couple lines of code to the Wine project guys. They would fix the Wine for those functions...
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Zant Suken
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Posted - 2006.02.17 18:19:00 -
[98]
I like Linux, but CCP shouldn't bother supporting anything other than Windows. They need to fix the flaws in the current client before spending time on any other platform.
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Mirirar
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Posted - 2006.02.17 20:11:00 -
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I vote that instead of spending time futzing around with stuff to get either a Wine or Linux build running, they instead spend the engineering and art capacity on adding new content for the existing userbase.
Supporting Linux will bring in a grand total of 7 users, and would be a QA quagmire. There is simply no business reason to do this. The additional content would bring in far more Win32 users.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.17 20:17:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Mirirar
I vote that instead of spending time futzing around with stuff to get either a Wine or Linux build running, they instead spend the engineering and art capacity on adding new content for the existing userbase.
Supporting Linux will bring in a grand total of 7 users, and would be a QA quagmire. There is simply no business reason to do this. The additional content would bring in far more Win32 users.
Everyone who doesn't read the OP, including the quoted person above, should be banned from posting in this thread.
Seriously.
Did you even read the thread TITLE?!!
Is everyone blind today?!
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Posted - 2006.06.12 18:21:00 -
[101]
Major bumpage here.
At any rate. Wine is getting there. I don't like WineX and transgaming (bunch of thieves if you ask me).
On the top 25 list here, EVE Online is now in third place with 118 votes. Number 1 on that list has 134 votes. Just a few more votes people! Common, start login in, and start voting! Better yet, use all three of your votes! Now!
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Redd Sectoray
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:12:00 -
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Would love to see WINE running EVE smoothly. Added 3 votes as EVE is the only thing that has me glued to a Windows OS. *fingers crossed*
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:15:00 -
[103]
the thread was DEAD, stop reanimating the DEAD post!
CCP is not a wine dev team, bug the wine dev team.....
FRODO HAS FAILED;
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Biltic Creen
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:19:00 -
[104]
Originally by: DukDodgerz
the thread was DEAD, stop reanimating the DEAD post!
CCP is not a wine dev team, bug the wine dev team.....
Oh my god!
And at least 20 people beside you have misinterpreted the thread cause they didn't even read the first post
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: Hllaxiu on 12/06/2006 21:22:21
Originally by: Suvetar
Folks,
If this thread descends into OS FUD, then I'll have no choice but to lock it.
If you want to argue the relative merits of Windows VS Linux, please go elsewhere
Vi is the best editor ever created. Emacs is an over built piece of junk.
Anyways.. voted! I just wish that ATI would release enough information for free (as in speech) drivers that have decent support for modern video card functions.
Edit I also forgot: Little Endian > Big Endian
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:26:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Biltic Creen
Originally by: DukDodgerz
the thread was DEAD, stop reanimating the DEAD post!
CCP is not a wine dev team, bug the wine dev team.....
Oh my god!
And at least 20 people beside you have misinterpreted the thread cause they didn't even read the first post
read it back when it was originaly posted... the thread was DEAD...did you pay attention to THAT????
Posted - 2006.02.12 04:41:00 <--old original post date, dead thread, and the rest of what I posted is still true, even if YOU did not read the thread...
FRODO HAS FAILED;
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Ab Initio
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:28:00 -
[107]
Originally by: DukDodgerz
the thread was DEAD, stop reanimating the DEAD post!
CCP is not a wine dev team, bug the wine dev team.....
*Shakes head in disbelief*
I've voted in the hope that support for EVE is added.
As for the amount of people responding to this thread without taking the effort to read the OP, you really are making yourselves look very daft.
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:39:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Ab Initio
Originally by: DukDodgerz
the thread was DEAD, stop reanimating the DEAD post!
CCP is not a wine dev team, bug the wine dev team.....
*Shakes head in disbelief*
I've voted in the hope that support for EVE is added.
As for the amount of people responding to this thread without taking the effort to read the OP, you really are making yourselves look very daft.
disbelief in what, are you blind or unable to read, the thread was DEAD (check the OP date while you toss about insults)! And CCP is NOT a wine/linux dev team...is that too tough to understand?
simple and clear, so how could you misunderstand any of what I posted?
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:58:00 -
[109]
which reminds me, my next hard-drive upgrade im installing linux
i really really hate microsoft pace of software developement and price
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Rakeris
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Posted - 2006.06.12 22:00:00 -
[110]
I would definitly like to see a linux version of EVE or at least to be able to play it using wine.
You have my votes already. ^^
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Posted - 2006.06.12 22:46:00 -
[111]
I like pie, will ccp bake me some pie?!?!?!
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Samirol
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Posted - 2006.06.12 22:51:00 -
[112]
for the cheesecake!
necromancy is bad mmmkkaaaayyy!!
pew pew pew
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Ab Initio
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Posted - 2006.06.12 23:07:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Ab Initio on 12/06/2006 23:10:09
Originally by: DukDodgerz
disbelief in what, are you blind or unable to read, the thread was DEAD (check the OP date while you toss about insults)! And CCP is NOT a wine/linux dev team...is that too tough to understand?
simple and clear, so how could you misunderstand any of what I posted?
I realise that the post was necro, what I am yet to understand is how you think CCP has anything to do with the original post? At all?
The entire thread is an attempt to get EVE linux users, to go vote on the Wine site.
It has nothing to do with CCP or there developers. It is NOT a request for a linux version, nor a request for CCP to deal with Wine on the users behalf. It is a request for users that are interested in getting Wine to support us, to use our numbers and vote for Wine to add support for EVE.
This many pages in, and people are arguing for the sake of arguing, without even reading the OP.
EDIT: After 5 posts from you in this thread, one removed by the mods, and STILL NOT READING THE OP.. You deserved to be called out tbh.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.06.12 23:38:00 -
[114]
CCP have had a chat with Transgaming.
What more do you need?
Now, close the coffin, and get this thread back in the earth where it belongs.
RIP.
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Bartholomeus Crane
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Posted - 2006.06.12 23:47:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Ab Initio
Edited by: Ab Initio on 12/06/2006 23:10:09
Originally by: DukDodgerz
... some drivel ...
I realise that the post was necro, what I am yet to understand is how you think CCP has anything to do with the original post? At all?
The entire thread is an attempt to get EVE linux users, to go vote on the Wine site.
It has nothing to do with CCP or [their] developers. It is NOT a request for a linux version, nor a request for CCP to deal with Wine on the users behalf. It is a request for users that are interested in getting Wine to support us, to use our numbers and vote for Wine to add support for EVE.
This many pages in, and people are arguing for the sake of arguing, without even reading the OP.
EDIT: After 5 posts from you in this thread, one removed by the mods, and STILL NOT READING THE OP.. You deserved to be called out tbh.
Frankly, I don't care how old the OP's post was. Better to resurrect an old post than to made a new one. The request made by the OP is still valid though. It doesn't ask for CCP to do anything. Iy only asks for those interested to vote on Wine's website so that they, the Wine developers, will maybe focus on providing EVE support. That's all.
And frankly, the fact that DukDipstick doesn't like me doing that, leaves me cold. It also leaves him looking rather like a ****. But who cares, right?
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Ab Initio
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Posted - 2006.06.13 00:09:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Ab Initio on 13/06/2006 00:12:13
Originally by: Avon
CCP have had a chat with Transgaming.
What more do you need?
Now, close the coffin, and get this thread back in the earth where it belongs.
RIP.
This thread is about Wine, not Cedega.. CCP contacting Transgaming has nothing to do with the OP either.
EDIT: For the record, I use Cedega, updating of Wine doesn't affect me at all. It's just really annoying, to see this many people reply to a thread without reading the content. The OP is trying to do something positive for our community, and instead of getting support, adleast 1/2 of the thread is random crap that has nothing to do with his post.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2006.06.13 00:11:00 -
[117]
Originally by: DukDodgerz
emulator by any other name....
it emulates the environment needed to run a program, thus, EMULATOR.
Myth 1: "Wine is slow because it is an emulator"
Some people mean by that that Wine must emulate each processor instruction of the Windows application. This is plain wrong. As Wine's name says: "Wine Is Not an Emulator": Wine does not emulate the Intel x86 processor. It will thus not be as slow as Wabi which, since it is not running on a x86 Intel processor, also has to emulate the processor. Windows applications that do not make system calls will run just as fast as on Windows (no more no less).
Some people argue that since Wine introduces an extra layer above the system a Windows application will run slowly. It is true that, in theory, Windows applications that run in Wine or are recompiled with Winelib will not be able to achieve the same performance as native Unix applications. But that's theory. In practice you will find that a well written Windows application can beat a badly written Unix application at any time. The efficiency of the algorithms used by the application will have a greater impact on its performance than Wine.
Also, and that's what people are usually interested in, the combination Wine+Unix may be more efficient that Windows. Just as before it's just how good/bad their respective algorithms are. Now to be frank, performance is not yet a Wine priority. Getting more applications to actually work in Wine is much more important right now. For instance most benchmarks do not work yet in Wine and getting them to work at all should obviously have a higher priority than getting them to perform well.
But for those applications that do work and from a purely subjective point of view, performance is good. There is no obvious performance loss, except for some slow graphics due to unoptimized Wine code and X11 driver translation performance loss (which can be a problem sometimes, though).
Originally by: F'nog
This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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BPO Master
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Posted - 2006.06.13 00:31:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: DukDodgerz
emulator by any other name....
it emulates the environment needed to run a program, thus, EMULATOR.
Myth 1: "Wine is slow because it is an emulator"
Some people mean by that that Wine must emulate each processor instruction of the Windows application. This is plain wrong. As Wine's name says: "Wine Is Not an Emulator": Wine does not emulate the Intel x86 processor. It will thus not be as slow as Wabi which, since it is not running on a x86 Intel processor, also has to emulate the processor. Windows applications that do not make system calls will run just as fast as on Windows (no more no less).
Some people argue that since Wine introduces an extra layer above the system a Windows application will run slowly. It is true that, in theory, Windows applications that run in Wine or are recompiled with Winelib will not be able to achieve the same performance as native Unix applications. But that's theory. In practice you will find that a well written Windows application can beat a badly written Unix application at any time. The efficiency of the algorithms used by the application will have a greater impact on its performance than Wine.
Also, and that's what people are usually interested in, the combination Wine+Unix may be more efficient that Windows. Just as before it's just how good/bad their respective algorithms are. Now to be frank, performance is not yet a Wine priority. Getting more applications to actually work in Wine is much more important right now. For instance most benchmarks do not work yet in Wine and getting them to work at all should obviously have a higher priority than getting them to perform well.
But for those applications that do work and from a purely subjective point of view, performance is good. There is no obvious performance loss, except for some slow graphics due to unoptimized Wine code and X11 driver translation performance loss (which can be a problem sometimes, though).
I can tell you a volkswagon beatle isnt a car because it has the engine in the rear and uses an air cooled engine...wouldnt make it NOT a car.
He says it emulates an environment, and I'll be damned if that isn't just what your quote describes.
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Ab Initio
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Posted - 2006.06.13 00:43:00 -
[119]
Originally by: BPO Master
He says it emulates an environment, and I'll be damned if that isn't just what your quote describes.
I think the point is that it doesn't emulate a Windows OS, it runs the windows binary and simply maps api calls to there linux equivelant.
I'm pretty sure they did the whole "Wine Is Not an Emulator" thing just to cause arguments though
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jamesw
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Posted - 2006.06.13 01:36:00 -
[120]
hmmmm
<insert wine whine here>
If you buy a game designed to run on windows, then use windows - its not hard to do.
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Posted - 2006.06.13 01:49:00 -
[121]
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Ab Initio
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Posted - 2006.06.13 02:15:00 -
[122]
Originally by: jamesw
hmmmm
<insert wine whine here>
If you buy a game designed to run on windows, then use windows - its not hard to do.
Like I said earlier, someone is trying to do something positive for the EVE community, that has no affect at all on people not using Linux. It also has no affect at all on CCP. It is purely there to help people using Linux, and people still feel the need to post this garbage.
A big part of why I play this game is the EVE community. By community, I mean people like the OP, not the 'contributors' whos posts are for the most part completely worthless.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.06.13 02:55:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Ab Initio
Originally by: BPO Master
He says it emulates an environment, and I'll be damned if that isn't just what your quote describes.
I think the point is that it doesn't emulate a Windows OS, it runs the windows binary and simply maps api calls to there linux equivelant.
I'm pretty sure they did the whole "Wine Is Not an Emulator" thing just to cause arguments though
BOCHs is an emulator. WINE is an implementation of the windows APIs in Linux. There is a difference.
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Posted - 2006.06.13 15:23:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Ab Initio
Originally by: jamesw
hmmmm
<insert wine whine here>
If you buy a game designed to run on windows, then use windows - its not hard to do.
Like I said earlier, someone is trying to do something positive for the EVE community, that has no affect at all on people not using Linux. It also has no affect at all on CCP. It is purely there to help people using Linux, and people still feel the need to post this garbage.
A big part of why I play this game is the EVE community. By community, I mean people like the OP, not the 'contributors' whos posts are for the most part completely worthless.
QFT!
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shwarzkauph
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Posted - 2006.06.13 15:37:00 -
[125]
not many CONSUMERS use linux. Notice I said consumers, not nerds or geeks who think theyre cool. Ive never had a problem with windows.
Games companies are after the consumer market, they want to make money. Theres not much money in Linux, so why bother.
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Bartholomeus Crane
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Posted - 2006.06.13 16:01:00 -
[126]
Originally by: shwarzkauph
not many CONSUMERS use linux. Notice I said consumers, not nerds or geeks who think theyre cool. Ive never had a problem with windows.
Games companies are after the consumer market, they want to make money. Theres not much money in Linux, so why bother.
You don't like linux or nerds or geeks or never had a problem with windows? Good for you! That simply isn't what this thread is about. A hint? Read the OP, simple, is only like 4 lines of text. You don't want to bother? Fine with me as well, just don't bother telling me, because frankly ...
For those others, EVE can always need more votes on the wine website. Doesn't cost you a penny, doesn't involve CCP doing anything, but will help the community by maybe bringing in more players.
I'm surprised people have such a hard time understanding! This thread is not about which OS is better! It is about indicating to the developers of wine (not CCP!) that there are people out there that would like wine to support EVE online. That's it, no hidden agenda, we are not us trying to tell that we are cool or superiour!
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.06.13 16:06:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Ab Initio
Edited by: Ab Initio on 13/06/2006 00:12:13
Originally by: Avon
CCP have had a chat with Transgaming.
What more do you need?
Now, close the coffin, and get this thread back in the earth where it belongs.
RIP.
This thread is about Wine, not Cedega.. CCP contacting Transgaming has nothing to do with the OP either.
EDIT: For the record, I use Cedega, updating of Wine doesn't affect me at all. It's just really annoying, to see this many people reply to a thread without reading the content. The OP is trying to do something positive for our community, and instead of getting support, adleast 1/2 of the thread is random crap that has nothing to do with his post.
If you think Cedega and Wine are coded in total isolation you are very wrong.
I know for a fact that there are people who code for both.
If something hits Cedega which would help it run under Wine, and it isn't restriced code (copy protection for example), that change will end up in Wine.
That was the point I was trying to make. I should have been more clear, and for that I am sorry.
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Bartholomeus Crane
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Posted - 2006.06.13 16:29:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Ab Initio
Edited by: Ab Initio on 13/06/2006 00:12:13
This thread is about Wine, not Cedega.. CCP contacting Transgaming has nothing to do with the OP either.
EDIT: For the record, I use Cedega, updating of Wine doesn't affect me at all. It's just really annoying, to see this many people reply to a thread without reading the content. The OP is trying to do something positive for our community, and instead of getting support, adleast 1/2 of the thread is random crap that has nothing to do with his post.
If you think Cedega and Wine are coded in total isolation you are very wrong.
I know for a fact that there are people who code for both.
If something hits Cedega which would help it run under Wine, and it isn't restriced code (copy protection for example), that change will end up in Wine.
That was the point I was trying to make. I should have been more clear, and for that I am sorry.
I don't particularly like Transgaming, or more precisely, what Transgaming did. They stole a version of wine when it was still under a liberal license, added some patches, brought it out as Cedega and started milking it for all they could without giving anything back to the original developers. That, to me, is simply low.
Now, wine is comming back stronger as ever, with an even better program as well. As for Transgaming working with the developers from wine, I'd be somewhat surprised about that. EVE sort of works under Cedega but doesn't under wine (yet). If Transgaming had been so cooperative, EVE would have been working under wine now as well. Maybe some contributors to Cedega also contribute to wine, but given their record, I think it more likely that Transgaming is still trying to milk wine for all that its got.
But as you said, this thread is not about Cedega or Transgaming, it's about wine, and more people voting for EVE on winehq can only help the community. So let's all do that
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Captain Alcoholic
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Posted - 2006.06.13 21:48:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Scorpyn
I would have voted for EVE with cedega aswell, but the problem is that I have to pay a monthly fee just to be able to vote, and with eve reported as being somewhat unstable on cedega I don't consider it worth the money (yet, but that may change in the future).
I highly suggest looking and seeing if other games are supported that you do play. Right now EVE is the only one that isnt. For me:
Quake4 (native)
UT (native)
Steam (Cedega)
Pirates! (Cedega)
Eve (apparently Cedega eventually)
Diablo 2 (cedega)
Gun (cedega)
Plus I have heard that Transgaming (the co behind Cedega) is in the talks with CCP for a partnership (TG does the coding, CCP shells out info or shares source). That would rock. This was from Wulfram personally. I talked to him at the Desktop Linux Summit in April.
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Captain Alcoholic
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Posted - 2006.06.13 22:00:00 -
[130]
Originally by: The Wizz117
i have bad expirience with linux
Such as? Perhaps I could be of assistance. I have been using for almost 10 years now, and have had my ... fun ... and can sympathize with you. On the other hand, when working its a blast and a nice retreat from MS Windows. Unfortunately not ALL games that I have interest in work completely. Most, yes, but not EVE ;D Fully that is.
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adfnr
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Posted - 2006.10.31 23:42:00 -
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Voted! We seem quite stable at #1.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.31 23:43:00 -
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No necro! Bad puppy! No treats for you!
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Scorpyn
Caldari
The Patriot Pact
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Posted - 2006.11.01 00:02:00 -
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This is probably the only necro so far that I actually like
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Tiger Sahara
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Posted - 2006.11.01 02:05:00 -
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Woted at winehq.
We're #1 atm, with 179 votes
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Flesh Eater
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Posted - 2006.11.01 03:45:00 -
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I can't see them porting it....but they should at least make it work well with Wine on Linux. OpenGL as an option makes sense for a lot of reasons....yet they have locked themselves into the DirectX path... :/
Developers have a responsibility if we are to have more options for Operating Systems...at the moment choices in OSes seem to have stagnated.
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Iyanah
Minmatar
Mining Munitions and Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: JamesTalon
Bloody penguin, I hope Ethan guts the thing... I wonder if anyone even knows what I'm talking about
Linux isn't that great in my opinion, but meh, I use my comp for gaming, not much else, so windows is easier
lol, i know what you're talking about, and i find you ammusing.
and to the OP:
i dunno about the game, but the forums seem to run perfectly on whine... ...wait... that's something different :P
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Izo Azlion
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: JamesTalon
Bloody penguin, I hope Ethan guts the thing... I wonder if anyone even knows what I'm talking about
Linux isn't that great in my opinion, but meh, I use my comp for gaming, not much else, so windows is easier
I know what your talking about, mate.
Izo Azlion.
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Gyrn Fzirth
Minmatar
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Gyrn Fzirth on 01/11/2006 22:51:22
*EDIT*
I should read more. I was under the (apparently mistaken) impression this was a vote to get ccp to code eve to support linux. It is not.
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Andrew Gunn
Frontline Defense Force
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:47:00 -
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All three of my votes are now on EVE-Online
It's really funny to see how incredibly stupid some people are when it comes to this subject. I don't indeed to be mean, but why is it that some people are compelled to offer their "insight" when they have no idea what WINE is, what the OP is talking about, or even what they are talking about?
To make things clear (as has been done many, many times in this thread):
WINE - A linux utility that allows for Windows-based programs to run on linux. THIS IS NOT MADE BY CCP
EVE - The video game that we all play. This is made by CCP.
The point of this thread - To get people (probably not you) to go to ANOTHER website, and petition ANOTHER developer, to make THEIR software run EVE.
This message is a public service announcement, brought to you by the "shut up and read" foundation and the ad-council.
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Derran
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:50:00 -
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I'd rather see a Macintosh client for Eve first. At least Mac users could then play another MMORPG instead of just WoW.
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hobieone
Caldari
Intergalactic Commerce Union
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:59:00 -
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the ting that would help wine alot and bring upto and probably surpass cedga is they would develope a gui for it. and i wold like to see support for a native version of the client tho that would rock
like to comment thou it amazes me how ignorant some on this forums can can like the above comment about linux being a hacked together unis is couldn';t be further fromthe truth. like to some of their faces when they try to use windows vista and find out more than 95% of the current and new games on the market currently will not install or run on it! anyone that tried the mosrt recent release canaidate can atest to that fact. beside some game developers are giving linux attension like croteam desided instead of working with wine/cedega htey makeing a native client for serious sam 2 which is a great fun fps and so far it looking good.
and i run eve both on linux through cedega and windows xp and it run fine both ways
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Taram Caldar
Caldari
Acheron Vanguard Armada
The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.11.01 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 01/11/2006 23:10:00
Originally by: Derran
I'd rather see a Macintosh client for Eve first. At least Mac users could then play another MMORPG instead of just WoW.
Lack of reading skills FTW!!!!
READ THE THREAD GENIUS! Nobody is asking CCP to port the game to Linux! We're asking the developers of WINE (A windows emulator, shudup it's an emulator, for Linux) to fix WINE so it properly runs EVE. It has ZIP to do with CCP.
Personally I play EVE on a XP system because I use the right tool for the right job. But there's nothing wrong with linux users asking other linux users to get a linux app developer to modify their code so it properly runs EVE.
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Gyrn Fzirth
Minmatar
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.11.03 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: hobieone
the ting that would help wine alot and bring upto and probably surpass cedga is they would develope a gui for it. and i wold like to see support for a native version of the client tho that would rock
like to comment thou it amazes me how ignorant some on this forums can can like the above comment about linux being a hacked together unis is couldn';t be further fromthe truth.
Are you trying to say that it isn't a hacked together "unix-like" os? It isn't real unix, like a BSD. It is absolutely hacked together - thousands of people just tossing stuff in there and hoping the whole steaming pile of crap works.
Linux blows g0ats. If you want to play with unix, get a BSD (freebsd, netbsd etc.)
Originally by: hobieone
like to some of their faces when they try to use windows vista and find out more than 95% of the current and new games on the market currently will not install or run on it! anyone that tried the mosrt recent release canaidate can atest to that fact.
I've been running vista for 2 months now. Eve works great. Quake 4 works great. Half-Life 2 works great. Anything that won't install native can be run in compatibility mode. Try running any of those on linux (except quake - has a linux client) and you'll see why noone has rushed to adopt linux on the desktop :/
Originally by: hobieone
beside some game developers are giving linux attension like croteam desided instead of working with wine/cedega htey makeing a native client for serious sam 2 which is a great fun fps and so far it looking good.
and i run eve both on linux through cedega and windows xp and it run fine both ways
Glad to hear it. More power to you, on running things in linux.
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