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Valleria Darkmoon
Convicts and Savages Shadow Cartel
297
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Posted - 2014.08.06 11:18:00 -
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Ah entitlement at its finest.
-I'm getting entertainment for literally no cost to myself whatsoever, check. -I am interested in said entertainment, check. -I have contributed nothing at any stage of development, check. -Since you peaked my interest I feel I am owed either a finished product or an explanation, check. -In above, if the latter is chosen instead of the former I feel a right to be outraged, check.
Right now the OMC team pretty much only owe anything to the people who had fights make it to win prizes because presumably they worked hard to get the footage they won with and many probably set out to get the footage with exactly this contest in mind. If the OMC crew wanted to pay out and shut down the project it'd be well within their rights to do it. So far only Teh Gaunt has a legitimate grievance. If you still feel outraged feel free not to watch. Remember also that had all of this been done as a collection of the best solo fights from a corp of solo players they could have released the video whenever they wanted and no one would have said a thing because they would not have known. I hope OMC doesn't shut down but if it did I will simply be slightly disappointed as I move on with life.
I shudder to imagine the entitlement you'd see where it was warranted. For example, if I were Chris Roberts and Star Citizen ends up as a failure I might consider a solo effort at colonizing the moon.
I will almost undoubtedly not see the video in the first few days as I will continue to check back here about once every 7-10 days and I will continue to do other things in the meantime. Release the thing whenever you are ready Miz, I will watch it then. The only thing you have to worry about is as time drags on more people will forget this is a thing. Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification. |
SkyFlyer
Perkone Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2014.08.06 11:54:00 -
[512] - Quote
Left Game after Deadline, come back months later and! I see! Nothing! Seriously dude where is my prizeeeeeeeeeeeee i need it to play xD |
Kor Kilden
Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers
31
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Posted - 2014.08.06 18:47:00 -
[513] - Quote
Valleria Darkmoon wrote:Ah entitlement at its finest.
-I'm getting entertainment for literally no cost to myself whatsoever, check. -I am interested in said entertainment, check. -I have contributed nothing at any stage of development, check. -Since you peaked my interest I feel I am owed either a finished product or an explanation, check. -In above, if the latter is chosen instead of the former I feel a right to be outraged, check.
Right now the OMC team pretty much only owe anything to the people who had fights make it to win prizes because presumably they worked hard to get the footage they won with and many probably set out to get the footage with exactly this contest in mind. If the OMC crew wanted to pay out and shut down the project it'd be well within their rights to do it. So far only Teh Gaunt has a legitimate grievance. If you still feel outraged feel free not to watch. Remember also that had all of this been done as a collection of the best solo fights from a corp of solo players they could have released the video whenever they wanted and no one would have said a thing because they would not have known. I hope OMC doesn't shut down but if it did I will simply be slightly disappointed as I move on with life.
I shudder to imagine the entitlement you'd see where it was warranted. For example, if I were Chris Roberts and Star Citizen ends up as a failure I might consider a solo effort at colonizing the moon.
I will almost undoubtedly not see the video in the first few days as I will continue to check back here about once every 7-10 days and I will continue to do other things in the meantime. Release the thing whenever you are ready Miz, I will watch it then. The only thing you have to worry about is as time drags on more people will forget this is a thing.
Unfortunately, while I agree with the bulk of this, one key point is wrong: all submissions are under restriction because no one has been informed of their fight's status and thus risk losing prizes even if their fight is one of the hundred that don't get a prize.
It's not the winners that are hurt the most, it's everyone else that submitted a fight. |
Servant's Lord
Pandora Sphere Disavowed.
61
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Posted - 2014.08.07 05:17:00 -
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Hello |
LT Alter
Ouroboros Research and Development
122
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Posted - 2014.08.07 10:27:00 -
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Perhaps it wouldn't be such a bad thing to release the list of winners. Also I agree with an earlier statement of weekly updates. IT doesn't have to be anything major, just a quick update on progress that lets a know it's going. Anyway, being a video editor myself I know how long this stuff takes, so I will patiently wait for the release of the video. |
Cheryl Swindle
Anatidae Rising
0
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:12:00 -
[516] - Quote
Wow you want to KNOW WHO WON so entitled!
But seriously, OMC is still not out. Guys. Its still not done.
Even with 3 editors
Still |
Zhao Chen-Shi
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:26:00 -
[517] - Quote
MIghty interesting lol. |
Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
66495
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:41:00 -
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Hey all
When we initially discussed it I got the idea that most people were interested in that we waited with announcing the winners until the video release. Now that things have been going slowly (as described earlier) I have been getting a lot of requests to announce the winners and give out the prizes. This will allow everyone who didn't make it to release their own videos and the winners can make use of the prizes rather than it just collects dust on the OMC char.
So therefore I intend to announce the winners tomorrow (12th August) at 18:00 EVEtime. Prizes will be sorted over the following days.
As for the video I am still unsure what to do. However I got a 4th editing helper now.
One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |
Omega Crendraven
Crow Homocide Squad Black Rise Police Department
170
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Posted - 2014.08.11 22:33:00 -
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Mizhir "making album" of OMC in serbia xa xa xa xa
" REMOVE RLML remove rlml you are worst light missile, you are the missile idiot you are the missile smell. return to rubicon. to our hml cousins you may come our fitting. you may live in the hangarGǪ.ahahahaha" CCP Rise |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
654
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Posted - 2014.08.12 01:28:00 -
[520] - Quote
Omega Crendraven wrote:Mizhir "making album" of OMC in serbia xa xa xa xa
Wait.. what? o.0 |
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SkyFlyer
Perkone Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2014.08.12 11:04:00 -
[521] - Quote
Mizhir wrote:Hey all
When we initially discussed it I got the idea that most people were interested in that we waited with announcing the winners until the video release. Now that things have been going slowly (as described earlier) I have been getting a lot of requests to announce the winners and give out the prizes. This will allow everyone who didn't make it to release their own videos and the winners can make use of the prizes rather than it just collects dust on the OMC char.
So therefore I intend to announce the winners tomorrow (12th August) at 18:00 EVEtime. Prizes will be sorted over the following days.
As for the video I am still unsure what to do. However I got a 4th editing helper now.
Yes! looking forward to seeing what i win xD |
Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
66523
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Posted - 2014.08.12 18:30:00 -
[522] - Quote
Winners announced: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=365793&find=unread One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |
Duckslayer
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
35
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Posted - 2014.08.14 10:10:00 -
[523] - Quote
now with 4(four) editors working on OMC can you hazard to give a progress update and ETA on the video? |
Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Big Rifters Inc.
102
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Posted - 2014.08.15 03:04:00 -
[524] - Quote
Duckslayer wrote:now with 4(four) editors working on OMC can you hazard to give a progress update and ETA on the video?
The community deserves to know. Gÿ¡ |
DHB WildCat
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
397
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Posted - 2014.08.15 03:05:00 -
[525] - Quote
Dont hold your breath........ 8(
I'm officially withdrawing my association with this project. I promised to give out prizes and I have done so. I promised to judge and I did so the day after the submitting period was over. I did everything I promised I would do, but I can no longer support what I feel is a failure to this community. Something was promised and it was not delivered for a far too unreasonable time frame. I wish the editors luck and look foward to the final project blowing me away.
However until then........ peace, Im out! |
Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
66590
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Posted - 2014.08.15 09:07:00 -
[526] - Quote
Regarding progress. In theory I have 4 editors. In practice it's more like one and a half. 2 of the editors have been so busy that their work on the project is barely noticeable. I'm not gonna name and shame, because I appreciate that they did what they could. And they volunteered for it so I cannot put demands up.
I expect to finish 2 more fights today. One of which has caused much trouble, but big miker managed to make a breakthrough on it, I just need to do the finishing touch. This will leave us with 4 fights still not done. 3 of them is somewhat in progress while the last one is still causing trouble cause the nature of the fight makes it hard to present properly.
I outsourced the intro to El Geo, but he didn't manage to finish it as he got some problems in RL to deal with. So I need to finish that as well.
DHB WildCat wrote:Dont hold your breath........ 8(
I'm officially withdrawing my association with this project. I promised to give out prizes and I have done so. I promised to judge and I did so the day after the submitting period was over. I did everything I promised I would do, but I can no longer support what I feel is a failure to this community. Something was promised and it was not delivered for a far too unreasonable time frame. I wish the editors luck and look foward to the final project blowing me away.
However until then........ peace, Im out!
So you are mad because I post on forums while **** is rendering?
I'm aware that helping with editing wasn't what you judges signed up, but when Aldap, Daneel and I realized how big of a task it was we asked you guys to give a hand. To which noone replied. And with Aldap gone and Daneel with very limited time I stood with the project on my own shoulders.
You did what I asked of you. And I thank you for that. I do also thank you for donating extra prizes. We really appreciate it. But words like that makes me feel backstabbed. One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |
DHB WildCat
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
399
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:06:00 -
[527] - Quote
Mizhir wrote:Regarding progress. In theory I have 4 editors. In practice it's more like one and a half. 2 of the editors have been so busy that their work on the project is barely noticeable. I'm not gonna name and shame, because I appreciate that they did what they could. And they volunteered for it so I cannot put demands up. I expect to finish 2 more fights today. One of which has caused much trouble, but big miker managed to make a breakthrough on it, I just need to do the finishing touch. This will leave us with 4 fights still not done. 3 of them is somewhat in progress while the last one is still causing trouble cause the nature of the fight makes it hard to present properly. I outsourced the intro to El Geo, but he didn't manage to finish it as he got some problems in RL to deal with. So I need to finish that as well. DHB WildCat wrote:Dont hold your breath........ 8(
I'm officially withdrawing my association with this project. I promised to give out prizes and I have done so. I promised to judge and I did so the day after the submitting period was over. I did everything I promised I would do, but I can no longer support what I feel is a failure to this community. Something was promised and it was not delivered for a far too unreasonable time frame. I wish the editors luck and look foward to the final project blowing me away.
However until then........ peace, Im out! So you are mad because I post on forums while **** is rendering? I'm aware that helping with editing wasn't what you judges signed up, but when Aldap, Daneel and I realized how big of a task it was we asked you guys to give a hand. To which noone replied. And with Aldap gone and Daneel with very limited time I stood with the project on my own shoulders. You did what I asked of you. And I thank you for that. I do also thank you for donating extra prizes. We really appreciate it. But words like that makes me feel backstabbed.
I don't care if you feel like I am backstabbing you, I've felt that way for about 3 months now from you. We have all tried the be nice to miz he's busy hugs and kisses crap. Now I'm trying the boot up your ass approach and hopefully something will get done. |
Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
66614
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:43:00 -
[528] - Quote
Well, I'm sad to say it's a waste of time for both of us. One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |
Longdrinks
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
91
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Posted - 2014.08.15 19:13:00 -
[529] - Quote
i belive in u mihizir <3
Gotta be a first time for everything and god knows you`re not the first person to ever underestimate size and scope of a project, but you`re sticking too it and thats what counts. |
SkyFlyer
Perkone Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2014.08.15 19:14:00 -
[530] - Quote
Just release this **** uneditted , or else learn to get people who are competent geezus christ |
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Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Big Rifters Inc.
102
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Posted - 2014.08.15 19:36:00 -
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plz dont ever take on a job you cant finish in a acceptable timeframe again. |
Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
66615
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Posted - 2014.08.15 19:39:00 -
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Immortal Chrono Pimpin wrote:plz dont ever take on a job you cant finish in a acceptable timeframe again.
I apologize for making free content for you guys. Next time I will just spin my ship and **** up forums like everyone else. One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |
Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Big Rifters Inc.
102
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:30:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:Immortal Chrono Pimpin wrote:plz dont ever take on a job you cant finish in a acceptable timeframe again. I apologize for making free content for you guys. Next time I will just spin my ship and **** up forums like everyone else.
Its common sense, You should of known you would take heat from a 9 month long community windup and failure. |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
309
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:33:00 -
[534] - Quote
Mizhir wrote:Immortal Chrono Pimpin wrote:plz dont ever take on a job you cant finish in a acceptable timeframe again. I apologize for making free content for you guys. Next time I will just spin my ship and **** up forums like everyone else.
I belive in you friend)) Where many other serbians fell you stood strong and escaped to Moldavia. #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Omega Crendraven
Crow Homocide Squad Black Rise Police Department
170
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:21:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:Mizhir wrote:Immortal Chrono Pimpin wrote:plz dont ever take on a job you cant finish in a acceptable timeframe again. I apologize for making free content for you guys. Next time I will just spin my ship and **** up forums like everyone else. I belive in you friend)) Where many other serbians fell you stood strong and escaped to Moldavia.
but lets not forget cetnikal rastafal! now we dont have omc, only prizeshekel dhb wildcat making secret pvp album in serbia?))) dhb we will nvr forgiv u give back our omc clay remove DHB from omc) xa xa xa real strong mizhir alive and making pvp album we dont need DHB! " REMOVE RLML remove rlml you are worst light missile, you are the missile idiot you are the missile smell. return to rubicon. to our hml cousins you may come our fitting. you may live in the hangarGǪ.ahahahaha" CCP Rise |
Nick Payne
12 Years a Sex Slav3
3
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Posted - 2014.08.16 04:59:00 -
[536] - Quote
Just release the bloody Video as it is now, sod all the fancy crap |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
309
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Posted - 2014.08.16 05:46:00 -
[537] - Quote
I personally can not watch a video if it doesn't include darude sandstorm, sanic, mlg, mountain dew, hitmarkers, weed and lens flares #GORSKI4CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4265138#post4265138
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Big rEy
Navy reiNforcements
51
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Posted - 2014.08.16 12:19:00 -
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I don't want to see the video unedited. I waited so much that I don't want to see it unedited. Mizhir, stop reading this forum. hmm |
maCH'EttE
Mafia Redux
120
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Posted - 2014.08.16 12:34:00 -
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can i get sume barbaque chicken and macaroni and cheese please. mizhir make sure to dip the chicken in sauce every 5 minutes cuz i do nut likes my chicken dry. |
Duckslayer
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
37
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:38:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:Immortal Chrono Pimpin wrote:plz dont ever take on a job you cant finish in a acceptable timeframe again. I apologize for making free content for you guys. Next time I will just spin my ship and **** up forums like everyone else.
So this free content is the OMC video being released? |
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