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Gustav Knuttsen
Billionaires Club
C0VEN
2
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Posted - 2011.11.07 12:45:00 -
[181] - Quote
Well this design sucks. Looks like orca ! but rotated LOL.
Hybrids sucks and will be sucking so Caldari friends fight for any missiles !! Otherwise you are doomed and got yet another almost playable ship. !! Caldari and Gallente are ******* orphans with these stupid hybrids ... But fight brothers ! Caldari will raise ! ehh maybe :) |
Mike Whiite
Progressive State
1
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Posted - 2011.11.07 14:57:00 -
[182] - Quote
Love the look.
Will I fly it, probably not if that "talos"clip on youtube is the standard. 5% armor Tornado attacks the naga and destroys is without the Naga being able to hit it.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuf_JzAkq7E[/url]
And then there are people who complain Caldari pilots only fly drakes |
Major Spag
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
72
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Posted - 2011.11.07 15:41:00 -
[183] - Quote
After trying this out, I can say that the Naga will not be useful in fleet battles. Tracking on Rails is not enough to warrant flying them in fleet battles unless you mount at least 2-3 tracking computers. Even then, sniping fleets are way too passe to be useful in modern battles. As always, torpedo's are not useful for anything but POS shoots or hotdropping onto caps.
What I did find it useful for is belt ratting. The speed plus the ability to fling torps at 24km chews through belt rats like candy. It doesn't have the tank for anomalies which is a shame but I don't consider that a down side. |
Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
5
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Posted - 2011.11.07 18:18:00 -
[184] - Quote
So now that all these nice looking ships are out, when are we going to see more info and Stats on these ship? It'll be nice to see what bonuses these get.
Good work! 
eëÆWhomever said, "You only get one shot to make a good impression," was utterly wrong. I've made plenty of great impressions with my AutocannonseëÆ eÉà |
Ky Vatta
Majority 12
0
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Posted - 2011.11.07 22:01:00 -
[185] - Quote
Naga = Not as good as (the others)
Its like a spacedock with guns
CCP please please please get a better design, as this one is total FAIL |
Mordecai Heller
Bastards Of New Eden
Damned Nation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.08 21:10:00 -
[186] - Quote
It's so beautiful!
I don't care if it turns out to be a terribad pvp ship, I will take that ship and fly it forever! Hope one day launcher models will arrive, it really suits them. |
Princess Cellestia
Friendship is Podding
Test Alliance Please Ignore
87
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Posted - 2011.11.09 00:43:00 -
[187] - Quote
If CCP removed the hybrid stuff from the naga and beefed up the torp bonuses this thing would be awesome. But so far its weak as hell with torps. And why put blasters on it when you can just use a Talos and get much more dps. Looks like caldari is going to be the redheaded stepchild of the Tier 3s due to the split bonuses. |
Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2011.11.09 09:41:00 -
[188] - Quote
Princess Cellestia wrote:If CCP removed the hybrid stuff from the naga and beefed up the torp bonuses this thing would be awesome. But so far its weak as hell with torps. And why put blasters on it when you can just use a Talos and get much more dps. Looks like caldari is going to be the redheaded stepchild of the Tier 3s due to the split bonuses.
no
just give it +1 +1 bonuses for rails and torps , also make them as speedy/agile as the others |
Ripperljohn
Ore Mongers
Indecisive Certainty
8
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Posted - 2011.11.09 13:45:00 -
[189] - Quote
Naomi Knight wrote:Princess Cellestia wrote:If CCP removed the hybrid stuff from the naga and beefed up the torp bonuses this thing would be awesome. But so far its weak as hell with torps. And why put blasters on it when you can just use a Talos and get much more dps. Looks like caldari is going to be the redheaded stepchild of the Tier 3s due to the split bonuses. no just give it +1 +1 bonuses for rails and torps , also make them as speedy/agile as the others
the naga is funnily enough already the most agile one, it's like speeding around in a ruppy.
-rail +torp bonus pls |
Vincent Gaines
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
38
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Posted - 2011.11.09 14:18:00 -
[190] - Quote
Princess Cellestia wrote:If CCP removed the hybrid stuff from the naga and beefed up the torp bonuses this thing would be awesome. But so far its weak as hell with torps. And why put blasters on it when you can just use a Talos and get much more dps. Looks like caldari is going to be the redheaded stepchild of the Tier 3s due to the split bonuses.
I agree but you forgot hybrids include blasters and rails.
Caldari have always had a split system, rails and missiles.
I agree, one or the other to give a 2nd bonus. Another missile ship I guess.
No fix to rails, a waste of SP on rail spec. |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
0
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:49:00 -
[191] - Quote
Tried the naga on sisi with torps ................... failed!
Expected abit more out of it and it doesnot deliver  |
Ris Dnalor
Fleet of Doom
Ushra'Khan
10
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Posted - 2011.11.10 09:21:00 -
[192] - Quote
If you take a Drake, and fit it with a tank that is as abysmal as what you get with the Nag, you suddenly have plenty of slots available so you can get 800 or 900 dps with heavy assaults, which have a faster explosion velocity, and a smaller explosion radius... than the Nag will have with torps. ... and even doing this I think you'll have a better tank than the Nag... (25% to shield resists really boosts even a 2-slot shield tank with no DCU.)
so, as it stands, not much reason to pay for a Nag. when the Drake is superior in most situations... and near-enough to equal in the rest that it wouldn't matter.
Naga needs a boost if you want many folks to fly it.
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Usurpine
Galactic Defence Consortium
United Pod Service
20
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Posted - 2011.11.10 09:44:00 -
[193] - Quote
I like the design.
Just it should use Cruise Missiles or Torps, not Railguns. Its Caldari. Caldari use Missiles, right ? |
Tiger's Spirit
Troll Hunters INC.
20
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Posted - 2011.11.10 10:10:00 -
[194] - Quote
Mike Whiite wrote:Love the look.
Will I fly it, probably not if that "talos"clip on youtube is the standard. 5% armor Tornado attacks the naga and destroys is without the Naga being able to hit it.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuf_JzAkq7E[/url]
And then there are people who complain Caldari pilots only fly drakes
Yes we saw, when naga dont shot back Tornado could kill it.
We saw a Tornado could kill a sniper BS lol. Very hard kill,sure. :D
We saw Tornado is OP 1126 DPS with 3 gyro+hail. LOL
Who will using Naga without damage bonus ? No one. Furthermore the torpedos sux without target painter, can't damage with full power the small or fast ships. Can't shot afar like a drake.
Dont forget CCP why created Naga so useless, because they want to change the 0.0 drake fleets to gun fleets (tornado). Missile swarms just create lags, drones create lags, they dont want them. So, they just dont want to create another missile fleet for 0.0 fights.
Their own interest the important one. No one care players. |
Mike Whiite
Progressive State
1
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Posted - 2011.11.10 11:44:00 -
[195] - Quote
Tiger's Spirit wrote:[Yes we saw, when naga dont shot back Tornado could kill it.
If you look closely you see the combat log stating that the naga misses again and again
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Potato IQ
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:21:00 -
[196] - Quote
Fantastic looking ship. All four look great, but this one does it for me. And I cross-trained to get out of Caldari ships god-damn you
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Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:46:00 -
[197] - Quote
Potato IQ wrote:Fantastic looking ship. All four look great, but this one does it for me. And I cross-trained to get out of Caldari ships god-damn you
yes looks as awesome as your face... |
Jarem Sothra
Rock Ballz INC.
0
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Posted - 2011.11.11 08:11:00 -
[198] - Quote
Buzzmong wrote:The Naga eh?
Can anyone at CCP enlighten me why they've stepped away from the avian names for Caldari? Especially with Naga being deity-like, surely that would have been a better fit with Gallente?
Don't forget, the Caldari Scorpion, Onyx(Latin for 'claw, and a rock snake from Pokemon)), Widow(obviously named for the deadly black widow, an arachnid), Rattlesnake, Drake(a type of dragon or a male duck), Ferox (Latin for 'fierce'), the Wyvern(a mythical winged reptile), etc, etc.
I believe they stepped outside the just avian naming for nature's predators (whether they are real or myth). |
Potato IQ
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2011.11.11 08:57:00 -
[199] - Quote
Naomi Knight wrote:Potato IQ wrote:Fantastic looking ship. All four look great, but this one does it for me. And I cross-trained to get out of Caldari ships god-damn you
yes looks as awesome as your face...
IGÇÖm telling my mum your being mean
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Venustas Blue
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2011.11.11 12:26:00 -
[200] - Quote
The oracle & Tornado are ok tank wise, not sure as of the talos, but I know for a fact the nagas tank is so bad, needs a buff straight away! |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
12
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Posted - 2011.11.11 12:34:00 -
[201] - Quote
If it's going to be useful with torps it needs a stealth bomber style explosion velocity bonus - and a big one.
What's the point of giving it a weapon system that's only really useful against battleships, when a battleship would swat it like a bug?
The other tier 3 BCs can make use of their agility and speed to make transversal work in their favour, but that doesn't work with missiles, so give the Naga a good bonus for it.
Note: IIRC, it was the explosion velocity bonus that was removed, not the missile velocity bonus? |
m0cking bird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2011.11.12 01:55:00 -
[202] - Quote
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
This thing would have done 500 damager per second @ 30,000 meters (null), very mobile and
have the most tank of any nano teir 3 battle-cruiser. Also, does 900 damage per second with anti-matter. I could see these in fleets smashing another fleet of Tornado's and most other ships. With the tracking damage and cap boost to blasters this would have been awesome!
This was a nano-blaster-rokh-A-DOOMZ! This was also a anti battleship, capital and with rigs
a anti-battlecruiser platform.
Now it's gimp and sh!t like most of the other tier 3 battlecruisers. Nerfed before it could be called overpowered (died to young). Thing could even fit stasis webifier and still have tank. I was looking forward to these new ships, but now... Think I may take another long break from this game. |
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
18
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Posted - 2011.11.12 09:13:00 -
[203] - Quote
Princess Cellestia wrote:If CCP removed the hybrid stuff from the naga and beefed up the torp bonuses this thing would be awesome. But so far its weak as hell with torps. And why put blasters on it when you can just use a Talos and get much more dps. Looks like caldari is going to be the redheaded stepchild of the Tier 3s due to the split bonuses.
Ya I dont recomend flying the Talos with blasters or rails to anyone ether. As we can see that Hybirds and there ships will be par for corse as normal.
So dont stop your Projectial or Lazer training just yet your still going to need them.
Also if you were one of thoughs that thought Hybirds and there ships were going to be the new FoTM and started training Hybirds and hybird ships you can change your training to something more usefull to yourself then Hybirds and there ships. |
m0cking bird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2011.11.13 19:28:00 -
[204] - Quote
Had sometime to spend on some things. I'm really starting to think all tier 3 battle-cruisers are overpowered. Why would I ever use a Eagle (not that I do now) over a Naga or Talos. Both are incredible long range hybrid platforms. Same with the other tier 3 battle-cruisers (Zealot, Muninn, Eagle, Deimos NERF). CCP should limit these bonuses to auto-cannons, siege missiles, blasters, and pulse lasers. Also, CCP should get rid of siege missiles bonuses and hard-points on the Naga. Stick with hybrids...
This first setup is better than the Talos @ being a blaster ship...Ship has around 40,000 ehp, 1,400m/sec, 900 damage per second.
[Naga, ******]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Medium Shield Extender II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Warp Scrambler II
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
This set-up is pretty nasty @ range. 500 damage per second @ 100km.
[Naga, ****** On The RooF!]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender I
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Invulnerability Field II
Sensor Booster II
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I |
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
19
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Posted - 2011.11.14 00:04:00 -
[205] - Quote
m0cking bird wrote:Had sometime to spend on some things. I'm really starting to think all tier 3 battle-cruisers are overpowered. Why would I ever use a Eagle (not that I do now) over a Naga or Talos. Both are incredible long range hybrid platforms. Same with the other tier 3 battle-cruisers (Zealot, Muninn, Eagle, Deimos NERF). CCP should limit these bonuses to auto-cannons, siege missiles, blasters, and pulse lasers. Also, CCP should get rid of siege missiles bonuses and hard-points on the Naga. Stick with hybrids...
This first setup is better than the Talos @ being a blaster ship...Ship has around 40,000 ehp, 1,400m/sec, 900 damage per second.
[Naga, ******]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Medium Shield Extender II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Warp Scrambler II
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
This set-up is pretty nasty @ range. 500 damage per second @ 100km.
[Naga, ****** On The RooF!]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender I
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Invulnerability Field II
Sensor Booster II
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge L
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Ya now the only problem is that there BS partners are going to out tank all of them at range and rip them apart. There only real shot at Major fleet battles is to get in close with thoughs auto's/blasters/pulse/torps. For small ganges it realy depends on how that gang wants to use them. So I think there just fine as is though I would not be ringing the OP bell just yet as the weapon systems them selfs are Large and there brother BC's get bounses to Med witch are way more usefull against omost all ships.
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Havegun Willtravel
Mobile Alcohol Processing Units
4
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Posted - 2011.11.16 01:16:00 -
[206] - Quote
Would have liked to seen more work put into making this a balanced and viable missle boat.
None the less it definately seems to have alot of potential as a gun ship, but I get the feeling it might end up being the least used of the 4.
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Nimrod Nemesis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2011.11.16 04:29:00 -
[207] - Quote
Havegun Willtravel wrote: I get the feeling it might end up being the least used of the 4.
lolwut? It's looking like the better of the much more than four caldari hybrid ships (for practical pvp applications at least), not the worst. And if you expected a drone-less paper-tanked BC to be the new pve hotness, I think you were mislead. |
Mike Whiite
Progressive State
1
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:22:00 -
[208] - Quote
Nimrod Nemesis wrote:Havegun Willtravel wrote: I get the feeling it might end up being the least used of the 4. lolwut? It's looking like the better of the much more than four caldari hybrid ships (for practical pvp applications at least), not the worst. And if you expected a drone-less paper-tanked BC to be the new pve hotness, I think you were mislead.
And the only one I see now and then are the harp[y and the Falcon, and that last one has more to do with it's ability to use a covert opps cloaking device than a its's hybrid awesomeness.
not to mention Havegun Willtravel was refering to the tier 3 battlecruiseres then caldari hybridships. |
Nikuno
Atomic Heroes
The G0dfathers
5
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Posted - 2011.11.16 10:56:00 -
[209] - Quote
Well I suspect I won't be using any of the hybrid versions of these tier3's, but if I was going to then the Naga is a lot better option than the Talos. And for all of you who continue to insist on trying to post Talos blaster fits - STOP IT ! It is never going to work ! What part of no tank do you not understand !! It's a crappy ship with crappy weapons and no way to survive any close range encounter. Just give up, once and for all. You've flogged that poor dead horse to dust. |
Vincent Gaines
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
96
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Posted - 2011.11.16 14:11:00 -
[210] - Quote
Havegun Willtravel wrote:Would have liked to seen more work put into making this a balanced and viable missle boat.
None the less it definately seems to have alot of potential as a gun ship, but I get the feeling it might end up being the least used of the 4.
The only missile boat used in PvP is the drake, and not because of the missiles but because it has a great passive tank.
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