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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.03 05:02:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 03/09/2003 05:10:14
Ladies and Gentleman, it is my pleasure and my duty to announce the formation of a new regional government to compass and protect the territories beyond Concord jurisdiction to the north of Caldari space.
This ôNew Venal Allianceö (NVA) has been formed by the fraternity and goodwill of lawful corporations and freelancers devoted to the cause of bringing stability and prosperity to Venal and Pure Blind.
The NVA is founded on the principles of good representative democracy and is intent on providing frontier opportunity and trade access to a new generation of small and medium-sized corporations prepared to unite for mutual defence and prosperous business cooperation.
No longer will the resources of Venal and the prosperous trade lanes of Pure Blind be jealously guarded by secretive cartels and violent autocrats; no longer will the borders be closed to casual traffic and curious wanderers amongst the stars.
It is the NVAÆs firm intention to correct the mistakes of the past, and to undo the memory of tyranny and injustice that long-haunted those northern territories which otherwise might ring with sounds of industry and lawful commerce in times to come.
NVA policy-making is to be determined by a representative executive council drawn from member corporations, with membership being open to appropriate immigrant-corporations prepared to relocate offices and fleet assets to the region and with the willingness to abide by the NVA constitution and attendant responsibilities common-levied without exception.
Responsibilities and Rights include; commitment to a common defence fund and military levy, respect and commitment to the goals expressed in NVA principle documents, commitment to the constitution, with rights to protection, free access to trade lanes and rare ore fields, free expression and the guarantee of personal liberty for corporations and individual members.
The NVA will operate a free border zone on the assumption of innocence, with only enemy forces and known malign illegals facing arbitrary attack from NVA fleet assets. Individual warships, equipment suppliers, couriers and explorers will have access without toll to the core Venal territories. Non-Venal mining operations and bulk traders will be asked to tithe a portion of their profits by pre-arrangement to provide against the cost of maintaining regional security. These negotiations to be conducted with respectful diplomacy by NVA border security.
Piracy and commercial predation will not be tolerated in regions policed by the NVA, and the NVA fleet will seek out and engage piratical activity when such is detected within our zone of operations.
It is our intention as an aspirant regional authority to normalise diplomatic and trade relations with neighbouring corporations and other regional alliances as swiftly as possible. And to this end we vouch our recognition for the authority of Fountain, Stain and Syndicate-Placid alliances, and ask that formal reciprocal relations be established as a matter of priority.
To the smaller Pureblind corporations that have long harried the pirate scourge of Venal, we propose common-cause and united action in reclaiming this region from chaos and lawless tyranny. Let us strive together towards a brighter future for the free populous of Eve cluster.
The NVA is a dream forged in blood and sacrifice and redemption; those corporations that held Venal in times before have been redeemed from the malign influence of Pirate Megacorps and have purged the criminal elements most reviled for villainy and predation and wanton murder. Free now of the gangsters and profiteers, the remaining corporations of the NVA wish to make amends for the deeds long done in Venal, and looking towards the future we ask you take a leap of faith and grasp the opportunity to aid the building of a brighter dream with honesty and courage.
Friends the time is now, and the NVA invites pilots and pioneers of means and valour to make cause beside the freedom-fighters of Venal in the struggle yet to come. For though we stand free and unbowed in the south of Pure Blind, ætis hard truth that the depths of Venal are ringed with outlaws and villains close-united in the desire to ruin and despoil the hopes of those who dare to dream. A great battle before us to free the territories of Venal from low domination, but an opportunity for those who wish to test their arts and valour and win a place in our gratitude and future prosperity.
ætis truth undeniably that the worst of times forge friendships hard as iron amongst those who keep faith and fight with common cause; aid us now in this time of test and trial and discover the faith and commitment at the core of the NVA, a treasure salvaged from the bitterest of disasters to pass in recent memory.
In faith then, I am
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Lex Luger
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Posted - 2003.09.03 06:41:00 -
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Blah blah blah ......
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.09.03 06:46:00 -
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what he said ^^  --
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tarabelle
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Posted - 2003.09.03 06:59:00 -
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Good luck to you!
Just don't let it turn into another Fountain where the allience charge you 1 million isk just to enter the area and where mining will get you killed :(
Keep space as free as possible.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.09.03 07:14:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 03/09/2003 08:50:33 Those who scoff would not recognize a new paradigm if it bit them in the crotch.
This is a revolutionary document in the history of the Venal Region. Scoff if you will...we understand there are those who can do nothing else.
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Lex Luger
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Posted - 2003.09.03 07:16:00 -
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Blah.....
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:18:00 -
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So basicly you are following the Khanid alliance example: No Tyranny, but an anti Piracy alliance.
Good evolution i must say. __________________________
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Sambora
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:23:00 -
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My warmest congratulationas to those of the NVA. It is refreshing to see an active responce to what was in most peoples eyes an unsatisfactory situation. It shows great resolve of the corps involved in this new alliance to draw themselves up and take an activestance on issues of law and the fight against piracy.
Let us not scoff at the efforts of those people and corperations that enter into this endevor. For was it not many of you who voiced your anger over the VA and the way it conducted its self and ran the local area? Now when they make the effort to change and clean them selves up, why do you not applaud them for it how ever long overdue it may be?
So good luck in the formation of your new government Ms Constantine, and may it prosper as a haven for free trade and enterprise.
As a final note. It would be of great interest to many of the sceptics in this galaxy I am sure, as well as myself to know wich corps have undertaken this new stance and will submit to its laws. Good Luck once again, and Fly Free.
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:53:00 -
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Well, I for one think this approach is an excellent idea for an alliance, provided the "tithe" isn't absurdly high on traders. Allowing open mining without charging a fee would only result in the depletion of bistot and other high-demand ores, so of course they are going to charge foreign miners who want to operate there. Trade goods, on the other hand, are a far less limited resource. A small tax on trading might be acceptable to most people, but please keep that fee reasonable.
I am especially pleased to see that individual hunting or exploration ships will be allowed free access. After all, there are limitless numbers of pirates to hunt and doubtless there are interesting sights to see.
One question I do have is about the status of the Pure Blind region. Will the NVA be considering Pure Blind part of the Alliance, or simply a buffer zone? And will fees or access restrictions be enforced in Pure Blind or only Venal itself?
As someone who has had a corpmate podded by the former Venal Alliance without warning or communication of any kind, I see the NVA charter as a definite change for the better. I only hope you are able to live up to it... the history of alliances in EVE is not a particularly encouraging one.
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2003.09.03 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Raven DeBlade on 03/09/2003 09:27:03 Edited by: Raven DeBlade on 03/09/2003 09:26:36 Just waiting for Ragnar to throw a lawsuit on you ;) btw Ragnar was last man out and of course FIRST man warping out in Venal when things didnt go thier way :) brave little soldier he is... i thought Ragnar had "Copyright" on Venal... or was it something else?
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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Macumba
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Posted - 2003.09.03 09:43:00 -
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Very nice idea in theory.
Though the cynic in me gives it a week or so until complete lockdown.
Tune in next week for another episode of "Tantrums & Tritanium".
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Leitari
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Posted - 2003.09.03 09:50:00 -
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Quote: Well, I for one think this approach is an excellent idea for an alliance, provided the "tithe" isn't absurdly high on traders. Allowing open mining without charging a fee would only result in the depletion of bistot and other high-demand ores, so of course they are going to charge foreign miners who want to operate there.
Bistot and Crokite havent been seen in easily reacheble systems there for a long time now, and unless A. Portable refining stations are introduced into the game or B. The ore respawns, it is going to be very hard to mine those rocks without some large fleet operation there.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Snoop
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Posted - 2003.09.03 11:41:00 -
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Quote: Just don't let it turn into another Fountain where the allience charge you 1 million isk just to enter the area and where mining will get you killed :(
the outer ring has the same pirates as fountain it also has bistot 6 jumps from 4c-b7x why dont you go there? oh i forgot you want to freeload from the fountain alliance because you are to scared to go there as u know m0o ,rus and sinister always hang out around that region now. you cant expect protection from pirate corp's for free why should we risk our ship's so cowards like you can mine out all our resources?
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.03 15:50:00 -
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As Jade has communicated in the NVA statement and as has been publicly expressed in open forum a new dawn is about to light up a region once shrouded in corruption and villainy. We are taking strides now towards our dream of a credible, representative and democratic government in the Venal territories.
It is my view that we have chosen our friends poorly in the past and in truth the situation was never more than awkward and for some of us deeply compromising to personal ethics.
The pirates have gone and are now the hunted.
NVAÆs guiding principles are public and we ask you to judge us by them and to support us in making this promised new dawn a reality rather than just a dream.
Star Fraction
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.09.03 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Indigo Seqi on 03/09/2003 16:12:22 And she washed her hands in the blood of those that were once her friends, claiming her intentions are now pure and all past actions are to be forgotton...
"No longer will the resources of Venal and the prosperous trade lanes of Pure Blind be jealously guarded by secretive cartels and violent autocrats; no longer will the borders be closed to casual traffic and curious wanderers amongst the stars."
You know, Jade herself was once a big fan of a plan to lock the entire Pure Blind region down aswell. A plan that couldn't get much support from the rest of the alliance, even TTI and even the pirate corporations didn't feel anything for it.
Also, Sambora, are you really an employee of Jericho or is the forum bugged?
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Sambora
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Posted - 2003.09.03 16:23:00 -
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Indeed Indigo I am now a proud member of the Jericho Fraction . How ever I was not at the time I replyed to this post. Hope that dosent bother you too much.
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High Priestess
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Posted - 2003.09.03 16:38:00 -
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Free access is a wonderful concept Jade. Can you tell us when this will begin I noticed another thread on Evolution killing people again by "accident". When will this free trade policy open up and what type of tithing is expected of your guests? I know Amistad Trading would be interested in a trade and mining agreement with the NVA. Thank you.
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Tsel
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Posted - 2003.09.03 17:00:00 -
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Been reading the forums on the Venal situation, and it has been quite interesting to say the least 
Interesting to note though that Ms Constantine , having failed in her motion to expulse TTi from the region , now is trying to 'claim' it under a new alliance ..
Naive might be more appropriate comment for both Ms Constantine and any who believe her ...
How could any honest trader and businessman, even for a second, trust the word of an obvious spindoctor?
From what i can gather , a few Venal Corporations having been seduced by Evolution tried to dissolve their alliance by bringing a motion to expulse TTi from the region. It was defeated (5 out of 12). Those small Corporations should have then known that to bring such a vote and lose would obviously result in dire consequences. It s basic logic that if you ask for a vote of confidence and lose, then you yourself will be asked to leave ... What did they think? That TTi would just let them stay?? Can you say D*** and D***er?!
To now claim the region as your own while aspiring to more noble goals .. well, you must really have a low opinion of other people's intelligence ...
Like most of your announcements .. good form, but very poor substance. ----------------------------------------------- The best leaders inspire by example. When that's not an option, intimidation works pretty well too. |

Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2003.09.03 17:05:00 -
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Greetings to the New Venal Alliance from the Syndicate-Placid Commonwealth. The S.P.C. officially recognizes your soveriegnty and legitimacy as a freely formed alliance. We applaude your new anti-piracy stance and open border policy. I must warn you from experience that these high princepals are easily declared but hard to win on a day to day basis. Therefore, we wish you all of the luck possible on establishing and maintaining an alliance based on such noteworthy aspirations.
Once matters have settled in Venal, and the NVA has become comfortable in their new role, contact me to formalize a more official relation status between the N.V.A. and the S.P.C.
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Kaizer Soze
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Posted - 2003.09.03 20:06:00 -
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I find it funny that NVA claims control of a region widely known to be under direct military control of The Fountain Confederation.
Evolution, Xanadu and Cornexant Fleets are locking down major hotspots and controlling traffic.
VA pilots except a few are denied access to the FA military ops cause they are seen as a liability instead of a resource.
I look forward to seeing how this NVA will cope in the region, but my guess is that NVA will be to weak to control the region unless they become some sort of Vassal of The FA.
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Taliranowe Sarum
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Posted - 2003.09.03 20:11:00 -
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Priestess you will notice that I posted earlier about this. During our Military operations in Venal, we will shoot at all strangers on the battlefield. We give fair warning, so stay away untill our fleets are gone.
Both Xanadu and Evolution military are trained to shoot, not give people free tours of the area.
I leave that to Jade and her council. We're there to conduct a war, and we do that with extreme force. You enter a warzone and complain when you take heat.....some people must be daft.
If you are there to help our fleets, i suggest you pop by #fountain and contact Molle or Lench and indicate why, so the corps can set their standings towards you.
Read the Rules Of Conduct and Terms Of Usage
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QBall
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Posted - 2003.09.03 21:21:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Raven DeBlade on 03/09/2003 09:27:03 Edited by: Raven DeBlade on 03/09/2003 09:26:36 Just waiting for Ragnar to throw a lawsuit on you ;) btw Ragnar was last man out and of course FIRST man warping out in Venal when things didnt go thier way :) brave little soldier he is... i thought Ragnar had "Copyright" on Venal... or was it something else?
Sorry just can't help myself with this one, but I'm pretty sure Ragnar has a (TM) on Stupid. Don't know about Venal though.  -------- "OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!" -QBall
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.03 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 04/09/2003 01:52:24
Can we please have a list of the corps who makes up this new alliance???
*EDIT* This was obviously VERY much misunderstood. It was not a request from Mass, but from me personally because of curiosity. I find the intrigues and conflicts within EVE very exciting and want to know what's happening. And I used "we" since I thought many more players wanted to know this.
And as you know very well, no MASS ships has been involved in this conflict, at any stage. Since Jade Constantine had a convo with us, I hope things are cleared, at least for the moment. And btw, why would I ask what corps are involved, if I'm already involved?
Note, I'm NOT the corp's officer for these things. I just felt I had to clear things up, after my question, since there are obviously many rumours about this.
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Tharkadd
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Posted - 2003.09.03 23:52:00 -
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Since MASS has pledged support for TTI forces, I think I speak for the NVA when I say "Get Bent"
Jackass
Everyone leaves the world a better place. Some for having been here, some for leaving it.
If children are the future, we need to weed out the bad ones before they get elected.
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teh pR3acH3r
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Posted - 2003.09.04 00:11:00 -
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Quote:
VA pilots except a few are denied access to the FA military ops cause they are seen as a liability instead of a resource.
you sir are gravely mistaken. _________________________________ Indefinately MIA Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader Founding members of the Venal Alliance You'll Find Religion When I Find You |

Zaphod Robotnik
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Posted - 2003.09.04 03:40:00 -
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[Press Release] BSC Announces Multi-Million ISK Contract With New Venal Alliance
Please see the linked document for details. --
Zaphod "Zaprobo" Robotnik President, Royal Communication Department http://eve.britishspacecorps.co.uk/http://eve.britishspacecorps |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.04 14:36:00 -
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As CEO of Jericho Fraction and a founder member of the New Venal Alliance (NVA) I formally commend and welcome the support of the British Space Corporation in the difficult early days for the new regional alliance.
We are a government born from strife and the chaos of past disasters, but our eyes are fixed on the path ahead, and our hearts are resolved to make a better future for the region to the clear benefit of all law-abiding corporations of Eve.
The British Space CorporationÆs formal recognition of the NVA is a significant and damning blow to the dark imperial urges of CEO Ragnar and the Taggart Trans-piratical Alliance.
Honest men speak. Honourable cause is made.
Let the histories of the future reflect this moment of shining principle with generous accord and bright-spoken praise.
Jade Constantine; Jericho Fraction representative to the NVA council.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.04 14:46:00 -
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I will take a moment to confirm Dalman's words. I spoke with the gentleman last night on the issue of Taggart Transpiratical claims to have "hired" MASS Corp to fight alongside M3G4 and Space Invaders in service to Ragnar's pride and lunacy.
Monsieur Dalman was polite and helpful, and brought an executive from MASS Corp to speak on the matter.
Decisions ensued, with the outcome being the formal assurance that MASS was not operating in Venal, had issued no intent to fight with Taggart, and that should a change of corporate alignment on the matter occur in the near feature, fair and adaquate public notice would be posted.
From other sources I am given to understand that Taggart may have simply been using the name of MASS corp to shore up their own diminished military reputation.
My thanks to Dalman for his aid in this matter.
Love and peace
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Yuushi
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Posted - 2003.09.04 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Yuushi on 04/09/2003 18:32:13 Not funny. -Orestes
but whatever will NVA do for a website then? you know you laughed Orestes!! *poke poke giggle* why are you guys being the humor police anyway?? it's hardly inappropriate and there is no swearing involved...
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Yoseph Cohen
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Posted - 2003.09.04 17:54:00 -
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Quote: Not funny. -Orestes
Ok. That was the single most hillarious thing I have seen in this entire discourse. Way to go, Yuushi. :)
Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces Yoseph Cohen Aluf Israeli Defense Forces (A divison of Israeli Space Corporation) |
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