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Art Dillinja
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Posted - 2003.09.23 19:23:00 -
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Niwaie don't you think its funny though how you were lied to and then fell for it hook line and sinker.
The only ones chuckling over this is Evol. As it was their plan all along.
<Derek> hey you do knwo that molle was plotting the whole thing from the start
<[Xan]niwaie> omg he played us :(
<Derek> remember how it made no sense that we would pay for hits on you guys before the war started
<[Xan]niwaie> wait a sec, ill cancel the FA and declare war on evol :)
I mean, really... they plotted to kill TTI and we fell for it??
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.23 19:37:00 -
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Derek, Taggart Transpiratical,
You are a very funny man. Everyone with honour had bad relations by default with Taggart because you chose to lay down with the snakes and murderers in the sewer, that kind of stink doesnÆt just wash out with the laundry mÆdear, you crossed a line and paid the price. Crying about it now just makes you look pathetic, but then, a man who is proud to spend his every working day sitting inside a station in Venal and peering out of the viewing gallery at the circling enemy is hardly going to take overmuch concern over personal reputation.
As for what the war is about, I very much suspect youÆll not have any great influence in determining those terms and issues mÆdear.
The war is about Taggart betraying their allies and then sleeping with scum. Whatever else you say mÆdear, you must admit your mean-spirited cartel of psychotic lunatics makes very poor comparison with the idealistic vision and just endeavour of the NVA declaration of principles. And there mÆdear, in that very word itself, is the finest expression of everything you lack.
You were originally faced with a confidence vote because you failed your allies. You compounded this crime by renouncing a regional council and sponsoring murder campaign, then declaring war on your allies into the bargain.
This is now largely irrelevant however; because rather than focusing on vendetta and revenge, the founders of the NVA chose to make a new council and look to the future. Now the war continues, not because of your treachery and your crimes, or even because of RagnarÆs bounty, no, it simply continues and will continue to do so, because the NVA want a future for Venal that doesnÆt include pirates and murdering psychopaths.
You have allied yourself lock stock and barrel with that filthy parasitical cause.
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we seem to find allies within only pirate corporations. I would currently trust my back to only a handful of corps right now and they are all pirate corps save one newly reformed corp out in Khanid.
Your own words and they really say it all.
If I was to quit eve tomorrow, and if Jericho dissolved in days thereafter, if all that I have ever said and done was erased from the memory of this conflict, and if all my arguments were gone à still the war would continue, and still you would ultimately lose, because mÆdear, this is about civilisation and honourable cause against villainy and foul deprivation. You have nailed your colours to murderersÆ fate; you will sink or swim with your foul allies in times to come. The NVA fights for freedom. You strive only to control a crimelordÆs petty cartel by vindictive bullying and low-brow illegality.
And asking Qball to help your cause? Oh dear on dear. Yoseph Cohen promised us a revelation on that score two weeks ago. We are still waiting for the interview.
And whilst you have ranted with abandon I note you have not even attempted to answer even one of my quite reasonable questions à could it be you do not agree with your allies in M3G4 and their statement of voting privileges in the Transpiratical Alliance?
Love and peace (and death to Taggart Transpiratical)
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.23 19:53:00 -
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Havorcide,
Yes I have a lot of time, and you know why? Because once upon a time I was a peaceful trader full-intent upon maximising the profitability of marginal trade-runs and hazardous territories. I used to spend all my time building the funding base of Jericho through blockade-running and speculative endeavour. Then Ragnar made a target of me and betrayed my corporation and hurled us all to the wolves while he made a pact with the lowest scum in Eve. Since my business has been ruined, and since my life is now a thing dictated by war and hard circumstance, I therefore have a lot of time to devote to fighting this campaign the only way I know; with intelligence and planning and careful negotiation.
Once upon a time I made 100million isk in a single day mÆdear, and this without harming a soul, or damaging anyoneÆs business. Now those days are gone forever and I scrabble in the dust for a paltry couple of million here or there against a backdrop of banditry and piratical mayhem, can you blame me for devoting my energies to the destruction of those who ruined my livelihood? You and your kind owe me mÆdear. One way or another I am happy to make you pay.
Love and peace
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.09.23 20:06:00 -
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"And asking Qball to help your cause"
HAHAHA jade did you read anything i said. Qball did everything in his power to turn Venal into a warzone. He certaintly never helped us.
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smoked
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Posted - 2003.09.23 20:11:00 -
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Jade you freak of nature you, actually we did all hear about my faithfull leap from my ship, and my entire staff and executives, and members had a helluva laugh about it the other night.
Keep up the good cheers and please jade write us another book on policy.. or esspecially one of those long winded full of **** essays you write. They always good for a laugh.
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.09.23 20:14:00 -
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<Derek> i just wanna see jade here So i can undock and go suicide my ship into her ship
<QBall> lol
<QBall> I dont think jade has anymore ships
<QBall> well maybe a Blackbird
<Derek> are people killing her?
<QBall> yah
<QBall> your still TTI?
<Derek> yeah
<QBall> hehe
<QBall> wanna know a secret
<Derek> i'm sure i already know
<QBall> because I dont really care nore play EVE much
<QBall> jade wasn't the one playing with Xanadu
<Derek> it was you
<QBall> :P
<QBall> I SET US UP A BOMB
Not that it really matters. Because Jade you don't seem to care what started the whole mess. You pick and choose the events that you want to the whole war.
The funny thing is i'm pretty sure Qballs corp is still in the NVA .....who is "transpiratical" again?
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WarElf
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Posted - 2003.09.23 21:05:00 -
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*LOTR Music*
I wish none of this would have happened, i wish All could be good again :(
~WarElf 
~WarElf Occassus Republica
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Detaitiv
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Posted - 2003.09.23 21:26:00 -
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Damn Derek. It's been a month now. You still don't know who the real sources are yet?
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Lottsa Pox
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Posted - 2003.09.23 21:47:00 -
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Jade,
You ask us to condemn Tank CEO. Why? He is a great pirate and a good wingman. I really think you like to attack people that aren't as active on the boards as you. We are pirates straight up. If you dont like Tank CEO then take your fight to him or us it doesnt matter. All of Tank CEO's actions have been for the one goal of M3G4. To remove people from the tight confines of their pod. But go ahead and spin some bull**** story about us being something other than pirates or about my lack of comprehension about things said on this thread. I have been in M3G4 since its creation. It has been and will always be a pirate corp.
Lottsa Pox
Pox to ya pod.
M3G4
Enjoy the game, I know I am
Lottsa Pox
Pox to ya pod
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.23 22:24:00 -
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Derek, so what exactly are you saying with that disclosure, that you now believe Ragnar out and out lied when he accused me of working with FA to damage TTI? That in fact the whole reason for the Taggart bounty was false and I was wrongly victimised? Is that what you are saying now? Funny, because I recall telling you chaps immediately after Ragnar spoke that he was full of crap; at the time you didnÆt seem to believe me.
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jimmychopps > Ragnar > "Taggart does not recognize the authority of this council, nor the voting power of a corp 1/100th of our size having the same power to limit our sovereignty. It is clear that the anti TTI effort has been led by Jade Constantine, who has been bought off by Evolution. We will start with a 100 million bounty on Jade Constantine with 100 million in bounties, paid for 5 mil ISK each for 20 corpses. TTI and SI and our friends will remain in Venal and we will openly attack all of the pro-Evolution people that have just voted against their one-time friends in TTI. If you wish to open relations, contact Jimmychopps now. Otherwise, you will be targetted. This is fair warning.
Smoked, listen mate, I may be a bit of a rubbish combat pilot, but really, you take the biscuit! You are an out and out embarrassment of a PvP muppet! Honestly, 2 ships in 24 hours last weekend, and you jump out of skin in fright at NVA forces this weekend and get your ship captured. The funny thing is your propaganda chief Irulan out and out and shamelessly denied your captured ship episode actually happened last night. Is Irulan an appalling gutless liar? Or have you simply lied to her? Enquiring minds would like to know. And as for my essays being good for a laugh, IÆm afraid as a comedian I finish a distant second place to your own antics.
Poxy, I asked you to condemn Tank CEO because your propaganda chief denied that M3G4 are pirates. She said you only wanted to be honourable mining carebear industrialists. Go read the chat logs. IÆm actually entirely happy to see you espousing your parasitical scum credentials, makes it easy to haul your unfortunate allies over the coals of broad disparagement.
Honestly mÆdear, you should have a word with Irulan, she is so very enthusiastic but seems as badly misinformed and out of her depth in the sphere of public relations as your CEO does in the sphere of ship to ship combat.
I donÆt need to spin a story about your lack of comprehension; you clearly donÆt have a clue.
Love and peace
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2003.09.23 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 23/09/2003 22:43:57
We had a frigate in space next to smoked when he abandonded ship. Took the pilot a second to work out wtf he was doing. We thought he was trying some new exploit or something.
New BS - 100mil pounds
New clone - 200k
Watching M3G4 leader eject, get podded and ship captured - priceless
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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smoked
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Posted - 2003.09.24 01:27:00 -
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I know, I still laugh at it, infact you put a smile on my face. Other than reading Jades dry long drawn out post about nothen of real importance.
Fun and funny stuff m8 hopefully next time I'll get a few more shots off before leaving my braised ship for my worthy apponents.
kudoz
Jade Ps... shut up please, this isn't a war of words.. or is it? For you it maybe a war of words, but you will see I will continue to send more and more iron your way.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.24 02:31:00 -
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I'm surprised you can read m'dear.
Love and peace
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smoked
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Posted - 2003.09.24 03:34:00 -
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me 2 :)~
arg i am not a pirate
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.24 03:40:00 -
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Two more Battleship losses for the Taggart Transpiratical Alliance in Venal tonight;
Algazara of the Paladins of the Red skull lost her dominix to NVA action led by KrullDari of Cyberdyne Systems with support from NVA fleet assets. The kill occured at 6NY shipyard. This notorious pirate was podded and corpse atomised by torpedo bombardment.
Darwin of M3G4 Corp lost his Scorpion battleship to NVA action led by Trip of RONA corp with support from NVA fleet assets. The kill occured at Y-4 Station. Unfortunately Darwin escaped in his pod, but we are sure there will be other chances to punch his ticket conclusively in the future.
Love and peace
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.09.24 04:21:00 -
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I have to commend both of the killed pilots for their valor--especially Algazarra, who did not dock and log despite already having escaped once with fairly heavy damage.
Also, kudos to all the NVA...getting much better with familiarity.
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2003.09.24 23:33:00 -
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Ok, while i was away for one day my point has begun to be proven. Alot of you, some who shall remain nameless are becoming alittle to involved in this forum. now in regards to M3G4 not being pirates, read exactly what was stated. In the past some acts of piracy have been commited. Now looking at the dynamics of this game two things are true. One. there can be no good with out evil and two no evil with out good. I am not even going to continue scoring this war, cause it was done, calculated strenuosly, and show a few things. 1st this war is being lost by the nva. main reason being, no mining and low player count in venal on be half of the NVA. 2nd Most major engagements are won by the NA. 3rd those that are not usually end up in stalemate. Now let us define victories. victories are defined as one side besting the other. Now it is true that during the periods of lower player count, The nva has been able to score a few kills, thes kills are usually 4 to 1 in favor of the nva. Now in terms of periods when more people are on and the fighting is more intense, NVA losses every single battle consisting of more than 3 ships on both sides. Many corps have opted to leave venal due to the fact that at the end of the major engagement of the day, they are forced to sit twiddling thier thumbs in the station while awaiting non existant reinforcements for empire space. well last weekend we were there for a good 9-10 hours and NONE came. The battles following the entrapment in the station is usually a contest of who can be more childish in local. Now the reason we started posting on the forum is plain simple and sterile. THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN JERICHO AND TTI getting into a huge ****ing contest and rallying support. Frankly its old. cause none of the original alliances are in existance. and 2 both sides seem to think venal can support a lot of huge corps. well while quite rich it cant. Now in respect to RONA, most of them are honorable fighters, but RONA has also been forced to spend many hours in a station and have also run away. Jade did make one point. HER combat force is primarily euro while ares is american. so the likely hood of a great climactic battle is slim indeed. So i end this constant posting and leave jade to believe and say what she wishes, I will post sterile and accurate info as i get it from my perspective as she does, though naturally youll all devise your own numbers, opinions and make threats at each other, well feel free. but remember this, in all conflicts neither side is totally right and is often both very wrong for allowing a conflict to come to pass.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.09.25 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 25/09/2003 00:18:33
Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 25/09/2003 00:07:04
Xen: If your definition of losing the war is no mining and low player count in the region...then we are winning. We do mine in the region except when M3G4 are present, and we have more players in the region than you do, and I don't see too many TTI mining ops in progress. In fact, other than Tigger and an occasional cameo by Mark A and a couple others, I really don't see ANY TTI any more. So evidently...TTI has already lost? By your definition, yes. Of course, I am not so foolish to buy your definition, so I will assume TTI is still in the war.
Secondly...you claim we are only winning the 4-1 and multiple ship engagements and that M3G4 has won ALL the engagements involving more than three ships per side. That's funny--exactly how many such engagements have there been? One? Two? And with M3G4 forces camped at a gate with drones deployed so as to take advantage of drone lag? An ill-advised NVA attack, IMO, and the lesson was learned. And it was also quite the isolated incident. NVA made some mistakes over the course of ONE weekend, and you are still declaring victory from that ONE weekend.
I also wonder--according to your own log, NVA has been virtually crippled--decimated--by NA forces and should surrender. Well, if that's the case, how are we able to win battles with overwhelming numbers? Perhaps NVA is not so crippled as you had tried to make everyone believe? And perhaps you exaggerate still...
Thank you for smashing your own creditbility. And one other thing. Just admit you're a pirate--like EVERYONE ELSE IN M3G4 will proudly admit--and learn how to start a new paragraph. Sheesh!
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smoked
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Posted - 2003.09.25 01:21:00 -
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[END TOPIC]
buttons for the faint at heart
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Lurk
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Posted - 2003.09.25 01:59:00 -
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well last weekend we were there for a good 9-10 hours and NONE came.
I can tell you the same story. That's basically because m3g4 seems to only active starting 0 GMT. Most NVA are offline then.
I can tell you that i often camped 4 hours when NO m3g4 even dared to exit a station.
Anyways, a war is only won when either one side gives up or is annihilated - both of that hasn't happened yet so don't speak of victory.
You won battles but we did also. "Major engagements" - you mean when you happen to camp a gate and deploy so many drones that you are already podded when your client has loaded up ? Well you are really good if you won that one i'd be proud of myself ...
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Mark A
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Posted - 2003.09.25 05:01:00 -
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well last weekend we were there for a good 9-10 hours and NONE came.
I can tell you the same story. That's basically because m3g4 seems to only active starting 0 GMT. Most NVA are offline then.
I can tell you that i often camped 4 hours when NO m3g4 even dared to exit a station.
I think you're right that TZ differences mean that numbers shift throughout the day. Fight fans should note that often there's a sweet spot in the middle where forces are approximately equal and some decent PvP can ensue. While its always fun to deride those who stay mid-warp or docked when way outnumbered, everyone does it and it would be dumb not to.
Agreed exploiting drone lag isn't good. Combat drones have certainly been used by both sides, but to my knowledge no-one has descended to using mining drones in combat situations. The fixed warp-in points really do need to be randomized, but you can avoid lag when engaging at gates and stations by warping to a +70km BM and approaching from there.
The real test is when there's an engagement of an approximately equal number of ships (and without any significant lag issues), which outcome has been fairly consistent so far...
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2003.09.25 09:26:00 -
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blah blah blah
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.25 10:19:00 -
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Agreed exploiting drone lag isn't good. Combat drones have certainly been used by both sides, but to my knowledge no-one has descended to using mining drones in combat situations.
Anyone on our side that I catch using mining drones deliberately will have to add them to their shopping lists :-) So far the fight has been fairly clean - which is evidenced by the distinct lack of calls of 'exploit' after each combat. Something I'm very happy with and I hope it stays that way.
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The fixed warp-in points really do need to be randomized, but you can avoid lag when engaging at gates and stations by warping to a +70km BM and approaching from there.
You should check the latest CSM. Jump in (presumably that's what you mean) points are going to become completely static soon. Given the current lag situation I'm not sure I'm looking forward to that...
Use of distant BMs can lead to accidental grid differences, if both sides go to a BM at the other side of a gate at 70km they're very close to the 'local' limit, if not past it. I really hope CCP can increase the range of a grid to quite a bit more than the maximum tactical range around an object - maybe 500km or more rather than the current 150km (I think).
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The real test is when there's an engagement of an approximately equal number of ships (and without any significant lag issues), which outcome has been fairly consistent so far...
Nope, the real test is when one side folds. Strategically the M3G4 presence has weakened our hold on Venal, but as KIA says most of the time it's business as usual and whilst M3G4 might camp one or two important systems, don't confuse that with controlling the entire region. I query your interpretation of the results of equal battles, but leaving that aside, total losses of ships and general disruption to activity is more important than what happens in 30 minutes on one day out of a whole week. TTi certainly has no civilian ops in Venal under their own flag, we do. Venal is ours, not yours and will remain so. It's open knowledge that TTi is shedding members and that factionalism is rearing its head in your corp. You're finding we have a much stronger stomach for a long war than you do.
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Mimic
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Posted - 2003.09.25 11:57:00 -
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omfg
All people talking in this thread about the big fights bla bla.
Can anyone say what is a victory ? There can only be a victory if one side goes COMPLETLY down or gives up. Does any side did it ?
And Christopher.. u say our forces are staying away or in stations.. What do ur forces if we are overwhelming ? They stay in station.
Since i play MMORPGS and thats quite long, the side that is underpowered stays away from the fight. Especially in Eve u HAVE to stay away if someone camps a station or a gate or a jump in. Because both sides using drone lags and other things. Everyone wants to have an advantage and uses all possibilities. So u are no better or worse than we are.
Another thing is after a combat. I am bored of hearing ppl telling me we cheat. Only because they were afk or got a ctd. One night we got 3 times ctd everytime when an enemy went to a gate we're camping. Did we tell they're cheating ?! No. So please stop talking about cheats or rabbits that don't come out of an station we do, u do. Thats how fighting goes if u can loose something that got a value in the game (like Battleships or their equipment) u will take care not to loose.
So the fight goes on and the player himself has to decide when to engage and when not!
Mimic
p.s. i don't know any option to cheat no real program for eve and so i think there is noone until someone shows me something that changes my mind. And so i dont thing anyone of NA or NVA cheats!
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Corsair G
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Posted - 2005.01.15 06:53:00 -
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Rattman
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Posted - 2005.01.15 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Corsair G
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Stop ressurecting all these threads.
This is old a dead
All opinions, rambling or not, expressed here are my own and not that of my corp or alliance |
Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.01.15 07:34:00 -
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IBTL....definetly makes me miss the old days.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |
Skape Gote
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Posted - 2005.01.15 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Corsair G
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Surely this type of **** has got to be worth a ban for the whole account?
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2005.01.15 08:12:00 -
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idd.
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Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |
Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.01.15 08:29:00 -
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err... WTF? someone gag that guy... thread ressurection is bad mmmkay?
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