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Mr R4nd0m Retribution. 114	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:09:00 - [1] - Quote I guess making 70% of nullsec rental space was CCPs future for eve - right? I guess that gives us the real vibrant, confrontational, dynamic pvp environment you was looking for then? I mean we might as well just get rid of all the resources that large nullsec alliances are 'supposed' to exploit. So in rubicon v2 please remove all belts, all crappy moons, all anoms, infact why dont you just remove nullsec its not like anyone actually lives there and creates some real economies is it? in fact if they not gonna actually use it, then why not just make it all NPC nullsec instead. Yeah thats what we need..
Toshiro Ozuwara SniggWaffe WAFFLES. 299	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:13:00 - [2] - Quote Someone's jimmies have been rustled. We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything. In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe
Mr R4nd0m Retribution. 114	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:15:00 - [3] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: Someone's jimmies have been rustled. Not really.. but facts are facts..
Job Valador Super Moose Defence Force Mortem Sigil 346	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:15:00 - [4] - Quote I you don't like the renters, shoot them. If you are in an alliance that has renters and you disagree with the renting program, drop corp and shoot the renters. If you are jealous of all the bank these groups are making off of renting then not only should you shoot the renters but the landlords as well. If you don't like the status quo of things going on then actually do something about it than putting up a pointless thread. "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."
Inquisitor Ageri 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 77	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:16:00 - [5] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: its not like anyone actually lives there Good point. Oh, and biomass yourself.
Toshiro Ozuwara SniggWaffe WAFFLES. 299	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:18:00 - [6] - Quote I am mad. Damn mad. And I am not going to take it anymore dammit. We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything. In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe
Mr R4nd0m Retribution. 114	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:18:00 - [7] - Quote Job Valador wrote: If you don't like the renters, shoot them. If you are in an alliance that has renters and you disagree with the renting program, drop corp and shoot the renters. If you are jealous of all the bank these groups are making off of renting then not only should you shoot the renters but the landlords as well. If you don't like the status quo of things going on then actually do something about it than putting up a pointless thread. Maybe pointless to you but not to me, that's why we all have opinions. Sorry you don't agree. After playing eve for 10 years and seeing it come to this after all the years of making eve 'better', with more conflict, content etc etc I think i have a right to my opinion. I am not that naive to believe everyone will agree with me.
Mr R4nd0m Retribution. 114	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:21:00 - [8] - Quote Inquisitor Ageri wrote: Mr R4nd0m wrote: its not like anyone actually lives there Good point. Oh, and biomass yourself. At least post with your main, if you want to make silly childish comments, so we can all laugh at you in game. Oh wait that's why you didn't. Because posting comments like that must mean you are at least 13 yrs old
Job Valador Super Moose Defence Force Mortem Sigil 347	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:21:00 - [9] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: Job Valador wrote: If you don't like the renters, shoot them. If you are in an alliance that has renters and you disagree with the renting program, drop corp and shoot the renters. If you are jealous of all the bank these groups are making off of renting then not only should you shoot the renters but the landlords as well. If you don't like the status quo of things going on then actually do something about it than putting up a pointless thread. Maybe pointless to you but not to me, that's why we all have opinions. Sorry you don't agree. After playing eve for 10 years and seeing it come to this after all the years of making eve 'better', with more conflict, content etc etc I think i have a right to my opinion. I am not that naive to believe everyone will agree with me. The thread is pointless because it changes nothing in game. You speak of content and conflict, well here is a hint, log off eve gate, log into eve itself, make your ******* content and conflict instead of complaining that their is none. "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."
Inquisitor Ageri 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 77	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:25:00 - [10] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: if you want to make silly childish comments Ah, the bitter tang of irony.
Baali Tekitsu B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx 415	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:25:00 - [11] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: I am mad. Damn mad. And I am not going to take it anymore dammit. Nomad pls RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE
Danalee EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 221	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:27:00 - [12] - Quote Wait, what did I miss? Excuse my ignorance but was there a stealth nerf to nullsec in rubicon? D.
Lugalbandak Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates. 260	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:28:00 - [13] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: I guess making 70% of nullsec rental space was CCPs future for eve - right? I guess that gives us the real vibrant, confrontational, dynamic pvp environment you was looking for then? I mean we might as well just get rid of all the resources that large nullsec alliances are 'supposed' to exploit. So in rubicon v2 please remove all belts, all crappy moons, all anoms, infact why dont you just remove nullsec its not like anyone actually lives there and creates some real economies is it? in fact if they not gonna actually use it, then why not just make it all NPC nullsec instead. Yeah thats what we need.. :( you are a mean boy The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back
Lugalbandak Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates. 260	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:29:00 - [14] - Quote Danalee wrote: Wait, what did I miss? Excuse my ignorance but was there a stealth nerf to nullsec in rubicon? D. oh and ask this guy , plenty of pvp with renters The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back
Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 818	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:35:00 - [15] - Quote One day CCP wil have to listen. THe only way to make 0.0 a place where each one has to defend it own ground is to make most infrastructure targets to be possible to disable with a rather small gang. That way you could harash incompetent alliances withtout giving time for them to bring their masters to bear with hundreds of capital ships. As long as all infrastructure in eve has MILLIONS of HP, nothign can be done. As long as doing any meaningful damage takes hundreds of capitals or hours with a reinforced timer.. nothign can be done. Until then.. eve is about the very few most powerful blocs and their rented space. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!"
Solstice Project Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 4648	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:43:00 - [16] - Quote HATE HATE HATE HATE TO THE FORUMS! FOR CHANGE!
Toshiro Ozuwara SniggWaffe WAFFLES. 301	Posted - 2013.11.22 10:19:00 - [17] - Quote I don't understand why people get mad about nullsec. Players have created corps, formed alliances, and then added coalitions on top. They have mined moons, they have mined, ratted and PI harvested. They found the best way to make money in nullsec was to rent. This is emergent behavior, not the fault of CCP. If you want them to intervene, what you're saying is that you don't like the sandbox (and implicitly, are too impotent to do anything about it). Well organized and motivated player groups are always going to optimize the game for their personal gain. Either become one, join one or keep being a hisec publord. Alternately, you can join the CFC and become a nullsec publord, but that's a topic for another day. We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything. In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe
Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 820	Posted - 2013.11.22 10:28:00 - [18] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: I don't understand why people get mad about nullsec. Players have created corps, formed alliances, and then added coalitions on top. They have mined moons, they have mined, ratted and PI harvested. They found the best way to make money in nullsec was to rent. This is emergent behavior, not the fault of CCP. If you want them to intervene, what you're saying is that you don't like the sandbox (and implicitly, are too impotent to do anything about it). Well organized and motivated player groups are always going to optimize the game for their personal gain. Either become one, join one or keep being a hisec publord. Alternately, you can join the CFC and become a nullsec publord, but that's a topic for another day. You can hae sandboxes with different shapes and types of sand.. Most people that ocmplain were in the old 0.0 time,w hen there were tons of independent alliacnes and lots of smaller wars. And they know how it was more fun. Simple as that. people want fun.. and some miss that age. Its like 2007 0.0 was like world before WW1. Current 0.0 is like world after WW2. Some people would just liek the sand type to be adjusted so that massive power blocks with most space being held by incompetent renters to not be the only way to be in 0.0. No need to remove this way of living, some just liekd when eve politics was way more complicated, with dozens of parties to consider. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!"
Jythier Smith WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence 165	Posted - 2013.11.22 13:59:00 - [19] - Quote What is this renting thing? They pay for space and then they do whatever they want with that space, and that gets them more money than paying the rent... so being a rentor is actually the most efficient way to make money, except for the expense of renting. So basically whoever is renting the space out is really running a giant protection racket.
Varius Xeral Galactic Trade Syndicate 1785	Posted - 2013.11.22 14:10:00 - [20] - Quote Uhhh...Odyssey added, like, three regions of renters. :gamebreaking: Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Tuggboat Oneida Inc. 55	Posted - 2013.11.22 14:21:00 - [21] - Quote What came out of OP's Pie hole, Quote: guess making 70% of nullsec rental space was CCPs future for eve - right? I guess that gives us the real vibrant, confrontational, dynamic pvp environment you was looking for then? Roll I mean we might as well just get rid of all the resources that large nullsec alliances are 'supposed' to exploit. So in rubicon v2 please remove all belts, all crappy moons, all anoms, infact why dont you just remove nullsec its not like anyone actually lives there and creates some real economies is it? Roll in fact if they not gonna actually use it, then why not just make it all NPC nullsec instead. Yeah thats what we need.. What i hear: 70 percent of sov space is for rent. You are looking for real conflict. CCP should get rid resources that are not easily exploitable. belts low income moons and anoms are easy to exploit. Nobody lives in null, the economy is not real. Go back to an NPC economy because people are not using sov. Please continue
Dinsdale Pirannha Pirannha Corp 1533	Posted - 2013.11.22 14:29:00 - [22] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: I guess making 70% of nullsec rental space was CCPs future for eve - right? I guess that gives us the real vibrant, confrontational, dynamic pvp environment you was looking for then? I mean we might as well just get rid of all the resources that large nullsec alliances are 'supposed' to exploit. So in rubicon v2 please remove all belts, all crappy moons, all anoms, infact why dont you just remove nullsec its not like anyone actually lives there and creates some real economies is it? in fact if they not gonna actually use it, then why not just make it all NPC nullsec instead. Yeah thats what we need.. There is a reason that the game has taken this turn over the past couple years. As Hal Holbrook said, "Follow the money." Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook.
Silvetica Dian Manson Family Advent of Fate 315	Posted - 2013.11.22 15:18:00 - [23] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: I guess making 70% of nullsec rental space was CCPs future for eve - right? . CCP makes the rules. The players make the outcome. This is our vision not CCP's and if you don't like it join a group that fights against it. There are many of us fighting that fight already. It is not CCP's job to determine the outcome and it never was and hopefully never will be. This is why the eve sandbox is better than a scripted story that the themeparks offer. here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY
Seven Koskanaiken Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two 500	Posted - 2013.11.22 15:36:00 - [24] - Quote RMTsec
flakeys Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans 1623	Posted - 2013.11.22 15:40:00 - [25] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: Inquisitor Ageri wrote: Mr R4nd0m wrote: its not like anyone actually lives there Good point. Oh, and biomass yourself. At least post with your main, if you want to make silly childish comments, so we can all laugh at you in game. Oh wait that's why you didn't. Because posting comments like that must mean you are at least 13 yrs old Your playing for 10 years you say yet this char is only 2 years old and has no killboard record and is in a 2 man corp for most of it's time. Wait , who needed to post with his main ? Mr R4nd0m wrote: I guess making 70% of nullsec rental space was CCPs future for eve - right? I guess that gives us the real vibrant, confrontational, dynamic pvp environment you was looking for then? I mean we might as well just get rid of all the resources that large nullsec alliances are 'supposed' to exploit. So in rubicon v2 please remove all belts, all crappy moons, all anoms, infact why dont you just remove nullsec its not like anyone actually lives there and creates some real economies is it? in fact if they not gonna actually use it, then why not just make it all NPC nullsec instead. Yeah thats what we need.. You do realise that there now are actualy more pliots living there then in the time there was no rental space right? We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1157	Posted - 2013.11.22 15:55:00 - [26] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: I guess making 70% of nullsec rental space was CCPs future for eve - right? I guess that gives us the real vibrant, confrontational, dynamic pvp environment you was looking for then? I mean we might as well just get rid of all the resources that large nullsec alliances are 'supposed' to exploit. So in rubicon v2 please remove all belts, all crappy moons, all anoms, infact why dont you just remove nullsec its not like anyone actually lives there and creates some real economies is it? in fact if they not gonna actually use it, then why not just make it all NPC nullsec instead. Yeah thats what we need.. Nullbear tears. So tasty. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Leigh Akiga Trickle Down Economics 353	Posted - 2013.11.22 16:06:00 - [27] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: So in rubicon v2 please remove all belts, all crappy moons, all anoms, infact why dont you just remove nullsec its not like anyone actually lives there and creates some real economies is it? I used to live in our space and do anomalies and stuff because the isk was pretty good and I felt like I was helping the cause through my ratting taxes. Now with Rubicon, and swarms of unstoppable Interceptor gangs everywhere its not even viable to run an anomaly without having to stop and get safe every five minutes. So I have moved to highsec full time as far as 'living' and making a living. And only fight in 0.0 Not sure if this is the way its supposed to be..
Batelle Komm susser Tod 451	Posted - 2013.11.22 16:13:00 - [28] - Quote Renters are 1000 times better than de-populated regions supported by their moons alone. Yeah renters suck, whatever, get over it. If you're in an alliance that has renters, do what every other slumlord alliance has done and get an alt in a local pirate/roaming corp and kill them for fun. Why can't I delete this signature?
JC Anderson Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 965	Posted - 2013.11.22 16:26:00 - [29] - Quote Wait, renters are new?
Kamii OhnoKazii Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2013.11.22 16:32:00 - [30] - Quote Mr R4nd0m wrote: I guess making 70% of nullsec rental space was CCPs future for eve - right? I guess that gives us the real vibrant, confrontational, dynamic pvp environment you was looking for then? I mean we might as well just get rid of all the resources that large nullsec alliances are 'supposed' to exploit. So in rubicon v2 please remove all belts, all crappy moons, all anoms, infact why dont you just remove nullsec its not like anyone actually lives there and creates some real economies is it? in fact if they not gonna actually use it, then why not just make it all NPC nullsec instead. Yeah thats what we need.. Good Idea - I vote for a renaming to "Dullsec" and that nothing Is left, move it all to low-sec and call that Now-Sec, and then leave High-Sec as it is and call that Sigh-Sec.... would that make you feel better? I think they (CCP) is moving in a more dynamic direction while trying not to kick over the apple-cart, but hey can't make waffles without scrambling the eggs you know.

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