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Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:08:00 - [181] Originally by: Oventoasted armor has better base resists. all shields will always be weak to EM so. A few Caldari ships have +5% to all shield resists per level (Merlin, Moa, Eagle), which makes them pretty badass tankers. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' Nikolai can post twice as fast as me, and i'm uber -zhuge liang Uhm, I'm new to this, does this work? clickety Oveur
Gonada	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:11:00 - [182] anyone that thinks shield tanks are the very best should see the vid with one armor tanked domi taking on 5 ships :) I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
Gonada	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:11:00 - [183] anyone that thinks shield tanks are the very best should see the vid with one armor tanked domi taking on 5 ships :) I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
Gonada	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:11:00 - [184] anyone that thinks shield tanks are the very best should see the vid with one armor tanked domi taking on 5 ships :) I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
Gonada	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:11:00 - [185] anyone that thinks shield tanks are the very best should see the vid with one armor tanked domi taking on 5 ships :) I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
Gonada	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:11:00 - [186] anyone that thinks shield tanks are the very best should see the vid with one armor tanked domi taking on 5 ships :) I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
Gonada	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:11:00 - [187] anyone that thinks shield tanks are the very best should see the vid with one armor tanked domi taking on 5 ships :) I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
Gonada	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:11:00 - [188] anyone that thinks shield tanks are the very best should see the vid with one armor tanked domi taking on 5 ships :) I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:18:00 - [189] Originally by: Gonada I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. While armor or shield tanking have their own quirks that might give one a slight edge over the other, THAT is what it really comes down to. The equipment and skills are going to make more of a difference than shield vs armor. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' Nikolai can post twice as fast as me, and i'm uber -zhuge liang Uhm, I'm new to this, does this work? clickety Oveur
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:18:00 - [190] Originally by: Gonada I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. While armor or shield tanking have their own quirks that might give one a slight edge over the other, THAT is what it really comes down to. The equipment and skills are going to make more of a difference than shield vs armor. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' Nikolai can post twice as fast as me, and i'm uber -zhuge liang Uhm, I'm new to this, does this work? clickety Oveur
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:18:00 - [191] Originally by: Gonada I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. While armor or shield tanking have their own quirks that might give one a slight edge over the other, THAT is what it really comes down to. The equipment and skills are going to make more of a difference than shield vs armor. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' Nikolai can post twice as fast as me, and i'm uber -zhuge liang Uhm, I'm new to this, does this work? clickety Oveur
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:18:00 - [192] Originally by: Gonada I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. While armor or shield tanking have their own quirks that might give one a slight edge over the other, THAT is what it really comes down to. The equipment and skills are going to make more of a difference than shield vs armor. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' Nikolai can post twice as fast as me, and i'm uber -zhuge liang Uhm, I'm new to this, does this work? clickety Oveur
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:18:00 - [193] Originally by: Gonada I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. While armor or shield tanking have their own quirks that might give one a slight edge over the other, THAT is what it really comes down to. The equipment and skills are going to make more of a difference than shield vs armor. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' Nikolai can post twice as fast as me, and i'm uber -zhuge liang Uhm, I'm new to this, does this work? clickety Oveur
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:18:00 - [194] Originally by: Gonada I think though, that shield tanks and armor tanks are pretty much even, based on equiptment used and skills of the user. While armor or shield tanking have their own quirks that might give one a slight edge over the other, THAT is what it really comes down to. The equipment and skills are going to make more of a difference than shield vs armor. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' Nikolai can post twice as fast as me, and i'm uber -zhuge liang Uhm, I'm new to this, does this work? clickety Oveur
Cerberal	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:24:00 - [195] As a minmatar, i alternate between the two (given my race and its "Hybrid" ships, im able to do both comfortably). I like shield tanking when im ratting, as i dont really need the mid slots on my tempest for any utilities (i call my mid slots utility slots...as thats where all my tools go, such as webber and scrambler). As for PVP, i armor tank. Reason being i NEED those utility slots for Cap booster/Scram/Tracking dis, etc. In pvp i value my midslots as it seems he with the most tools at his disposal (not the most tank) usually ends up the better. This may not be true in everyones case...but it has proven true in mine. Besides, it may just be me...but using 2 tech two reps alternately (turning one on, then the other 6-7 seconds later) really makes my armor shoot up fast. And with my naturally high EM/Therm resists, i can concentrate on getting my KE and Exp damage resists up, and still have 2 slots for Damage mods (and since 3 mods is the limit nowadays...im not so bad off). So yes, it really depends on the ship/race i believe, ive still never seen a raven armor tank besides my corp CEO.
Cerberal	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:24:00 - [196] As a minmatar, i alternate between the two (given my race and its "Hybrid" ships, im able to do both comfortably). I like shield tanking when im ratting, as i dont really need the mid slots on my tempest for any utilities (i call my mid slots utility slots...as thats where all my tools go, such as webber and scrambler). As for PVP, i armor tank. Reason being i NEED those utility slots for Cap booster/Scram/Tracking dis, etc. In pvp i value my midslots as it seems he with the most tools at his disposal (not the most tank) usually ends up the better. This may not be true in everyones case...but it has proven true in mine. Besides, it may just be me...but using 2 tech two reps alternately (turning one on, then the other 6-7 seconds later) really makes my armor shoot up fast. And with my naturally high EM/Therm resists, i can concentrate on getting my KE and Exp damage resists up, and still have 2 slots for Damage mods (and since 3 mods is the limit nowadays...im not so bad off). So yes, it really depends on the ship/race i believe, ive still never seen a raven armor tank besides my corp CEO.
Cerberal	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:24:00 - [197] As a minmatar, i alternate between the two (given my race and its "Hybrid" ships, im able to do both comfortably). I like shield tanking when im ratting, as i dont really need the mid slots on my tempest for any utilities (i call my mid slots utility slots...as thats where all my tools go, such as webber and scrambler). As for PVP, i armor tank. Reason being i NEED those utility slots for Cap booster/Scram/Tracking dis, etc. In pvp i value my midslots as it seems he with the most tools at his disposal (not the most tank) usually ends up the better. This may not be true in everyones case...but it has proven true in mine. Besides, it may just be me...but using 2 tech two reps alternately (turning one on, then the other 6-7 seconds later) really makes my armor shoot up fast. And with my naturally high EM/Therm resists, i can concentrate on getting my KE and Exp damage resists up, and still have 2 slots for Damage mods (and since 3 mods is the limit nowadays...im not so bad off). So yes, it really depends on the ship/race i believe, ive still never seen a raven armor tank besides my corp CEO.
Cerberal	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:24:00 - [198] As a minmatar, i alternate between the two (given my race and its "Hybrid" ships, im able to do both comfortably). I like shield tanking when im ratting, as i dont really need the mid slots on my tempest for any utilities (i call my mid slots utility slots...as thats where all my tools go, such as webber and scrambler). As for PVP, i armor tank. Reason being i NEED those utility slots for Cap booster/Scram/Tracking dis, etc. In pvp i value my midslots as it seems he with the most tools at his disposal (not the most tank) usually ends up the better. This may not be true in everyones case...but it has proven true in mine. Besides, it may just be me...but using 2 tech two reps alternately (turning one on, then the other 6-7 seconds later) really makes my armor shoot up fast. And with my naturally high EM/Therm resists, i can concentrate on getting my KE and Exp damage resists up, and still have 2 slots for Damage mods (and since 3 mods is the limit nowadays...im not so bad off). So yes, it really depends on the ship/race i believe, ive still never seen a raven armor tank besides my corp CEO.
Cerberal	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:24:00 - [199] As a minmatar, i alternate between the two (given my race and its "Hybrid" ships, im able to do both comfortably). I like shield tanking when im ratting, as i dont really need the mid slots on my tempest for any utilities (i call my mid slots utility slots...as thats where all my tools go, such as webber and scrambler). As for PVP, i armor tank. Reason being i NEED those utility slots for Cap booster/Scram/Tracking dis, etc. In pvp i value my midslots as it seems he with the most tools at his disposal (not the most tank) usually ends up the better. This may not be true in everyones case...but it has proven true in mine. Besides, it may just be me...but using 2 tech two reps alternately (turning one on, then the other 6-7 seconds later) really makes my armor shoot up fast. And with my naturally high EM/Therm resists, i can concentrate on getting my KE and Exp damage resists up, and still have 2 slots for Damage mods (and since 3 mods is the limit nowadays...im not so bad off). So yes, it really depends on the ship/race i believe, ive still never seen a raven armor tank besides my corp CEO.
Cerberal	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:24:00 - [200] As a minmatar, i alternate between the two (given my race and its "Hybrid" ships, im able to do both comfortably). I like shield tanking when im ratting, as i dont really need the mid slots on my tempest for any utilities (i call my mid slots utility slots...as thats where all my tools go, such as webber and scrambler). As for PVP, i armor tank. Reason being i NEED those utility slots for Cap booster/Scram/Tracking dis, etc. In pvp i value my midslots as it seems he with the most tools at his disposal (not the most tank) usually ends up the better. This may not be true in everyones case...but it has proven true in mine. Besides, it may just be me...but using 2 tech two reps alternately (turning one on, then the other 6-7 seconds later) really makes my armor shoot up fast. And with my naturally high EM/Therm resists, i can concentrate on getting my KE and Exp damage resists up, and still have 2 slots for Damage mods (and since 3 mods is the limit nowadays...im not so bad off). So yes, it really depends on the ship/race i believe, ive still never seen a raven armor tank besides my corp CEO.
Pottsey	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:52:00 - [201] The correct answer is, it depends on the ship you fly. Amour doesnÆt have better resistance either, it depends on the ship and modules fitted. _________________________________________________ Nominate famous people in Eve who had an impact on you.
Pottsey	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:52:00 - [202] The correct answer is, it depends on the ship you fly. Amour doesnÆt have better resistance either, it depends on the ship and modules fitted. _________________________________________________ Nominate famous people in Eve who had an impact on you.
Pottsey	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:52:00 - [203] The correct answer is, it depends on the ship you fly. Amour doesnÆt have better resistance either, it depends on the ship and modules fitted. _________________________________________________ Nominate famous people in Eve who had an impact on you.
Pottsey	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:52:00 - [204] The correct answer is, it depends on the ship you fly. Amour doesnÆt have better resistance either, it depends on the ship and modules fitted. _________________________________________________ Nominate famous people in Eve who had an impact on you.
Nooey	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:59:00 - [205] Not going to stand up for the might of passive shield tanking Pottsey? ____________
Nooey	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:59:00 - [206] Not going to stand up for the might of passive shield tanking Pottsey? ____________ www.altgamer.com/nooey/Sigs/Forever.jpg[/img] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Nooey	Posted - 2006.02.27 06:59:00 - [207] Not going to stand up for the might of passive shield tanking Pottsey? ____________
Pottsey	Posted - 2006.02.27 10:59:00 - [208] Edited by: Pottsey on 27/02/2006 10:59:56 I donÆt believe every ship should be passive shield tanked. Take a Brutix itÆs got up to a 37.5% bonus to amour repairers in which case its clear amour tanking is better then active or passive shield tanking. But then a Ferox is useless as an amour tank compared to passive shield tanking. So the question should not be which is better amour or shield tanking. But the question should be which is better for xxx ship. Though for PvE it doesnÆt matter which method is better only which methods keep you alive. For level 3 missions you could amour tank or passive shield tank a Burtix just as effectively. If you donÆt die with either setup, does it really matter which one is best? _________________________________________________ Nominate famous people in Eve who had an impact on you.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.02.27 11:02:00 - [209] wrong forum Originally by: Zzazzt Originally by: thoth foc PA doesnt stand for anything.. Punchbag Alliance...
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.27 11:04:00 - [210] Originally by: Sarmaul wrong forum Aahaha , damn, I'm getting sloppy! -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' Nikolai can post twice as fast as me, and i'm uber -zhuge liang Uhm, I'm new to this, does this work? clickety Oveur

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