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Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1194
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Posted - 2013.12.02 12:01:00 -
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So far on Buff Caldari.....
1) Gal are too good
2) Cal are too pooh for PvP
3) Missiles unusable
4) Rails too good
5) Armour Tanking OP
6) Grr CCP why u make us fly dump ships
7) Because everyone else does something, so must we all High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
401
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Posted - 2013.12.02 12:03:00 -
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Majindoom Shi wrote:The point is valid. Most people won't admit it. They don't want to use missiles so they ignore the fact. And raven doctrines are rare and may have just been a phase. Name me one class of ship where caldari is the favored for pvp.
T3? Nope teng us are good but not favored. Bc? Nope maybe only the crow would be favored in its class. Anything dread and above caldari is a joke and everyone knows it. Which pvp? The blob kind? The station-games, neutral logi kind? The no-local kind?
OP: Caldari AFs see heavy use because active shield tanking is pretty ******* awesome. The Rokh is one of the best bait ships I've ever seen. Ravens make short work of structures at absurd ranges. Falcon. Blackbird. Drake got nerfed, but is still pretty popular as a conservative pvp boat. I've never seen a FW lowsec that didn't have Griffins on scan. RLML Caracals.
The problem isn't caldari ships or shield tanking or missiles. It's the phoenix and capital missiles. Rebalance incoming. There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
Majindoom Shi
Nightmare Logistics
15
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Posted - 2013.12.02 12:30:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Knights Armament wrote: Weapons systems top 20
Calling bs on this list if its supposed to be the most used weapons in either general OR pvp It's pvp and all api verified. So call BS all you want only makes you look like a fool. |
Brendan Anneto
Dread Phoenix Society Fidelas Constans
3
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Posted - 2013.12.02 12:34:00 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:I see a maticore there...how dare u say missles and shield arent used??? manticore is a glass vase. It doesn't count Proverbs 1:26-27 |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
368
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Posted - 2013.12.02 12:43:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Samillian wrote:While the Phoenix is a joke in real need of some love to state that there are no viable PvP ships in the Caldari line-up based on that is just sloppy thinking with no basis in fact. We have viable ships, the griffin.
I see your a big one for lists so just for you here is a list of viable Caldari PvP ships I encounter or use on a regular basis, some are of course niche but its still a good line-u.
Kestrel Griffin Condor Merlin Caldari Navy Hookbill
Hawk Harpy (makes me happy) Crow Raptor Manticore
Corax
Blackbird Caracal Moa (personal favourite) Caracal Navy Issue
Falcon (kill on sight) Cerebus
Tengu
Drake Naga
Nighthawk
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
3493
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:03:00 -
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Since Caldari are useless, CCP should remove them.
Especially Falcons please please. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1194
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:04:00 -
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Majindoom Shi wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Knights Armament wrote: Weapons systems top 20
Calling bs on this list if its supposed to be the most used weapons in either general OR pvp It's pvp and all api verified. So call BS all you want only makes you look like a fool.
Lol no for so many many reasons
And if you are too much of a fool to understand, I pity and PvP fleet you are part of High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
402
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:07:00 -
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Majindoom Shi wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Knights Armament wrote: Weapons systems top 20
Calling bs on this list if its supposed to be the most used weapons in either general OR pvp It's pvp and all api verified. So call BS all you want only makes you look like a fool. He's not saying the list is fake, he's saying it's not indicative of general pvp preferences or ability.
Duh. There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
3493
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:08:00 -
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CCP should make kitchen-sink fleets viable. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Knights Armament
But I p0op from there
118
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:09:00 -
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title clearly says the phoenix https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |
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Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1195
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:09:00 -
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Tul Breetai wrote: She's not saying the list is fake, she's saying it's not indicative of general pvp preferences or ability.
Duh.
Exactly
High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
402
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:11:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Tul Breetai wrote: She's not saying the list is fake, she's saying it's not indicative of general pvp preferences or ability.
Duh.
Exactly I see what you did there... There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1195
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:13:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:title clearly says the phoenix
Actually, it says " missile ships, such as the phoenix"
Not The Phoenix only
Not "ships like the Phoenix"
But "such as" ie Missile ships including the Phoenix High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Knights Armament
But I p0op from there
118
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:33:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Knights Armament wrote:title clearly says the phoenix Actually, it says " missile ships, such as the phoenix" Not The Phoenix only Not "ships like the Phoenix" But "such as" ie Missile ships including the Phoenix
I believe you have something against Caldari, are you a Gallente pilot by chance?
https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |
Adamski flipflop
Black Omega Security Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:44:00 -
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phoenixes get dat mad morale boost tho. |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1195
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:53:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Knights Armament wrote:title clearly says the phoenix Actually, it says " missile ships, such as the phoenix" Not The Phoenix only Not "ships like the Phoenix" But "such as" ie Missile ships including the Phoenix I believe you have something against Caldari, are you a Gallente pilot by chance?
??? No, I enjoy the company of my Caldari brethern.
And I fly Amarr when my Ashimmu is having a little sleep High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Chi Garu
Dos Dedos Inc
9
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Posted - 2013.12.02 14:50:00 -
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OP posts a thread about missile weapons, rabble reads it as a buff caldari thread, go figure. |
CannonFodder82
The Vo'Shun
8
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Posted - 2013.12.02 14:58:00 -
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i have a phoenix, sadface been deployed once wasted the poco tho so un win?
seriously id like it to be better, and caracals are ok at pvp vs frigs n ****. other than that i cant use my uber caldari skills |
Jamison
Southern Gothic
26
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:05:00 -
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Majindoom Shi wrote:The point is valid. Most people won't admit it. They don't want to use missiles so they ignore the fact. And raven doctrines are rare and may have just been a phase. Name me one class of ship where caldari is the favored for pvp.
T3? Nope teng us are good but not favored. Bc? Nope maybe only the crow would be favored in its class. Anything dread and above caldari is a joke and everyone knows it.
We use Naga's quiet often. |
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CCP Rise
C C P C C P Alliance
3252
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:21:00 -
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Using examples of what one alliance fields in a few select fights doesn't really show much. In general, metrics show that missiles have certainly come down in popularity some since HML changes but overall they are still performing well.
The Phoenix is certainly not in a good place. We actually tried to do a pass on it a few patches back but couldn't get the tuning quite right so we decided to wait a little since there will be good opportunities to balance it alongside other changes that we have in mind.
Missiles gained some ground recently with Cruise changes and the addition of RHML. We want to do a few more things over the next few patches will also impact the missile situation.
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1564
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:28:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Using examples of what one alliance fields in a few select fights doesn't really show much. In general, metrics show that missiles have certainly come down in popularity some since HML changes but overall they are still performing well.
The Phoenix is certainly not in a good place. We actually tried to do a pass on it a few patches back but couldn't get the tuning quite right so we decided to wait a little since there will be good opportunities to balance it alongside other changes that we have in mind.
Missiles gained some ground recently with Cruise changes and the addition of RHML. We want to do a few more things over the next few patches that will also impact missile balance, if that helps your outlook.
LOL...missiles gained ground with the addition of RHML....LOL. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1201
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:31:00 -
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Chi Garu wrote:OP posts a thread about missile weapons, rabble reads it as a buff caldari thread, go figure.
Could have something to do with the OP saying "buff or remove Caldari"
But maybe that means something else in your language
High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
111
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:33:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Using examples of what one alliance fields in a few select fights doesn't really show much. In general, metrics show that missiles have certainly come down in popularity some since HML changes but overall they are still performing well.
The Phoenix is certainly not in a good place. We actually tried to do a pass on it a few patches back but couldn't get the tuning quite right so we decided to wait a little since there will be good opportunities to balance it alongside other changes that we have in mind.
Missiles gained some ground recently with Cruise changes and the addition of RHML. We want to do a few more things over the next few patches that will also impact missile balance, if that helps your outlook.
Just make the Phoenix OP for a few patches :). .
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Davon Mandra'thin
Rotten Legion Ops
220
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:36:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Using examples of what one alliance fields in a few select fights doesn't really show much. In general, metrics show that missiles have certainly come down in popularity some since HML changes but overall they are still performing well.
The Phoenix is certainly not in a good place. We actually tried to do a pass on it a few patches back but couldn't get the tuning quite right so we decided to wait a little since there will be good opportunities to balance it alongside other changes that we have in mind.
Missiles gained some ground recently with Cruise changes and the addition of RHML. We want to do a few more things over the next few patches that will also impact missile balance, if that helps your outlook. LOL...missiles gained ground with the addition of RHML....LOL.
Tell us more about how being able to pump out 1000 DPS on a battleship with HEAVY MISSILES at 47kms is inconsequential. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1564
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:38:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Using examples of what one alliance fields in a few select fights doesn't really show much. In general, metrics show that missiles have certainly come down in popularity some since HML changes but overall they are still performing well.
The Phoenix is certainly not in a good place. We actually tried to do a pass on it a few patches back but couldn't get the tuning quite right so we decided to wait a little since there will be good opportunities to balance it alongside other changes that we have in mind.
Missiles gained some ground recently with Cruise changes and the addition of RHML. We want to do a few more things over the next few patches that will also impact missile balance, if that helps your outlook. LOL...missiles gained ground with the addition of RHML....LOL. Tell us more about how being able to pump out 1000 DPS on a battleship with HEAVY MISSILES at 47kms is inconsequential.
And what do you while they reload? Make a sandwich and hope your ship is still there when you come back? Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Plug in Baby
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
32
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:45:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:And what do you while they reload? Make a sandwich and hope your ship is still there when you come back?
Post KMs and typed 'rekt' in local? This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main. |
Davon Mandra'thin
Rotten Legion Ops
220
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:46:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Using examples of what one alliance fields in a few select fights doesn't really show much. In general, metrics show that missiles have certainly come down in popularity some since HML changes but overall they are still performing well.
The Phoenix is certainly not in a good place. We actually tried to do a pass on it a few patches back but couldn't get the tuning quite right so we decided to wait a little since there will be good opportunities to balance it alongside other changes that we have in mind.
Missiles gained some ground recently with Cruise changes and the addition of RHML. We want to do a few more things over the next few patches that will also impact missile balance, if that helps your outlook. LOL...missiles gained ground with the addition of RHML....LOL. Tell us more about how being able to pump out 1000 DPS on a battleship with HEAVY MISSILES at 47kms is inconsequential. And what do you while they reload? Make a sandwich and hope your ship is still there when you come back?
Reload times, really? Less than Arty, the same as Shield ASBs. You going to tell me both of those are inconsequential as well? You don't even need to reload when using them against small ships, they will be dead before you need to. |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1202
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:46:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
And what do you while they reload? Make a sandwich and hope your ship is still there when you come back?
Probably the same thing you do between the first shot and the last shot High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Esteban Dragonovic
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:46:00 -
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Caldari Caps in general suffer not only from the fact that capital size missile are basically broken/worthless, but also from the lack of the shield equivalent to the slave set. Something that would have hopefully appeared in Rubicon, but it now seems as there will never be such a set. |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1204
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:52:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: And what do you while they reload? Make a sandwich and hope your ship is still there when you come back?
Reload times, really? Less than Arty, the same as Shield ASBs. You going to tell me both of those are inconsequential as well? You don't even need to reload when using them against small ships, they will be dead before you need to.
He, like the OP, seems to still live in the fantasy land that equates missiles with massively low DPS weapons.
I guess DPS has changed its meaning too High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
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