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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
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Posted - 2013.12.10 05:37:00 -
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For ALLLL these years playing eve, I have gotten used to a ship coming outta warp when it reaches around 75% of its top speed,
Now it comes out of warp at around 20% of its top speed, not to mention larger ships basically CRAWL SLOWLY along
as they FINALLY come outta warp, I myself find this soo uselessly annoying...
Rubicon overall I like, but after making 30 jumps in a BS, I feel I'd be better off playing Space Invaders
Oh and have a nice day ... Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |

Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
3784
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Posted - 2013.12.10 05:44:00 -
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Yep, this wasn't a very good change. Fix Faction Warfare - introduce timer rollbacks |

Rin Valador
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.12.10 05:55:00 -
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Roime wrote:Yep, this wasn't a very good change.
It was a fantastic change. "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
663
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Posted - 2013.12.10 05:59:00 -
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Rin Valador wrote:Roime wrote:Yep, this wasn't a very good change. It was a fantastic change.
No its damn annoying. |

Don Purple
The Zen Of Lez
129
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Posted - 2013.12.10 06:02:00 -
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It is amazing watching a target warp to a gate, fallow after him and land before him because you know... you're in a faster ship. |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
1443
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Posted - 2013.12.10 06:11:00 -
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Onictus wrote: No its damn annoying.
Maybe you could use a set of implants to speed up your warp speed, then? Battleships are supposed to be slow. If it's so annoying then fly something smaller. |

Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
576
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Posted - 2013.12.10 06:54:00 -
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A very minor insignificant tactical advantage for small ships, and the ENTIRE EVE universe has to be burdened with it, ridiculous! Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |

Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.12.10 06:59:00 -
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Hey I absolutely love the warp speed changes, but this is a separate issue.
You used to jump through a stargate at much higher speed than now. Fix Faction Warfare - introduce timer rollbacks |

Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
440
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:44:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Now it comes out of warp at around 20% of its top speed, Seriously people, how ******* hard is it to read. There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
273
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:46:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:For ALLLL these years playing eve, I have gotten used to a ship coming outta warp when it reaches around 75% of its top speed,
Now it comes out of warp at around 20% of its top speed, not to mention larger ships basically CRAWL SLOWLY along
as they FINALLY come outta warp, I myself find this soo uselessly annoying...
Rubicon overall I like, but after making 30 jumps in a BS, I feel I'd be better off playing Space Invaders
Oh and have a nice day ...
sorry BS, it was so stupid large ships almost as fast with warp and comming out of warp , now interceptors en tackling frigs does what tey should do YOU KNOW , Intercept & tackle
If you doing 30 jumps in a BS , youdoing something utterly wrong The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
120
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:55:00 -
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haha yes i hate this just because it ruins how i have learned to fly for the past 2 and a half years. After such time all the sudden having whats normal gone and replaced with something else seems so anoying, maybe in a month or 2 we'll all have forgotten about the glory of dropping from warp at 70% speed
and then in a few more years when they make coming from warp = complete standstill, we'll be right be here going "wait, what?!" |

Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
578
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Posted - 2013.12.10 07:57:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:For ALLLL these years playing eve, I have gotten used to a ship coming outta warp when it reaches around 75% of its top speed,
Now it comes out of warp at around 20% of its top speed, not to mention larger ships basically CRAWL SLOWLY along
as they FINALLY come outta warp, I myself find this soo uselessly annoying...
Rubicon overall I like, but after making 30 jumps in a BS, I feel I'd be better off playing Space Invaders
Oh and have a nice day ... sorry BS, it was so stupid large ships almost as fast with warp and comming out of warp , now interceptors en tackling frigs does what tey should do YOU KNOW , Intercept & tackle If you doing 30 jumps in a BS , youdoing something utterly wrong
I seee, youre not allowed to take a BS from point A to point B in Eve, you just build it where you want it right  Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |

Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
578
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Posted - 2013.12.10 08:00:00 -
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Aramatheia wrote:haha yes i hate this just because it ruins how i have learned to fly for the past 2 and a half years. After such time all the sudden having whats normal gone and replaced with something else seems so anoying, maybe in a month or 2 we'll all have forgotten about the glory of dropping from warp at 70% speed
and then in a few more years when they make coming from warp = complete standstill, we'll be right back here going "wait, what?!"
FYI - i am one of the few who seems to understand OP - post is not about BS warp speed going from 3au/s to 2 au/s its about any ship having to decelerate to less than 1/4th normal flight speed before attaining the ability to do anything ie "exiting warp mode"
If you get enough little annoying things in a game, you'll just play it less, I mean a game is supposed to be fun, interesting, etc, not annoying like being stuck in a traffic jam, and that is what EVE feels like atm
Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
260
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:01:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Aramatheia wrote:haha yes i hate this just because it ruins how i have learned to fly for the past 2 and a half years. After such time all the sudden having whats normal gone and replaced with something else seems so anoying, maybe in a month or 2 we'll all have forgotten about the glory of dropping from warp at 70% speed
and then in a few more years when they make coming from warp = complete standstill, we'll be right back here going "wait, what?!"
FYI - i am one of the few who seems to understand OP - post is not about BS warp speed going from 3au/s to 2 au/s its about any ship having to decelerate to less than 1/4th normal flight speed before attaining the ability to do anything ie "exiting warp mode" If you get enough little annoying things in a game, you'll just play it less, I mean a game is supposed to be fun, interesting, etc, not annoying like being stuck in a traffic jam, and that is what EVE feels like atm agreed, on this very same list is the sensor overlay.
i can't stand this crap anymore, it's like a constant "hey look our awesome explo", when they actually killed the explo.
and this every single time i jump / undock... |

The Zetin Sunn
1st Armored Division
3
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:16:00 -
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Its like Daily Mail in here. Outrage over such a minor thing.
if flying a bs is as unbearable as you say it is, don't fly them. The changes the op is unhappy about sorta makes sense, but the rest of the whine is just people upset because the way they play the game might have to change and they'd rather it stay the same because its comfortable.
Don't fly BS 30 jumps or failing that, biomass yourself |

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
763
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:21:00 -
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I don't have any real issues with the warp changes. Sure, takes longer in a Battleship, but battleships should be slower than smaller ships. |

Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy Caldari State
154
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:46:00 -
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inertia stabilizer C'mon! That was easy. |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
893
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:50:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:A very minor insignificant tactical advantage for small ships, and the ENTIRE EVE universe has to be burdened with it, ridiculous!
INSIGNIFICANT? That alone is more powerful than any buff ever made to any ship in eve history!!!
The values for some ships might need tunning. But overall things feel much better. Still think coimmand ships should go same speed as cruisers, otherwise they loose all their thing if they cannto keep up with the ships they are trying to boost. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
957
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:51:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:I don't have any real issues with the warp changes. Sure, takes longer in a Battleship, but battleships should be slower than smaller ships. Yeah I miss my old pre-rebicon faster than smaller ship battleships... rest in peace battleceptors. |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
893
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:52:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:For ALLLL these years playing eve, I have gotten used to a ship coming outta warp when it reaches around 75% of its top speed,
Now it comes out of warp at around 20% of its top speed, not to mention larger ships basically CRAWL SLOWLY along
as they FINALLY come outta warp, I myself find this soo uselessly annoying...
Rubicon overall I like, but after making 30 jumps in a BS, I feel I'd be better off playing Space Invaders
Oh and have a nice day ... sorry BS, it was so stupid large ships almost as fast with warp and comming out of warp , now interceptors en tackling frigs does what tey should do YOU KNOW , Intercept & tackle If you doing 30 jumps in a BS , youdoing something utterly wrong I seee, youre not allowed to take a BS from point A to point B in Eve, you just build it where you want it right 
You still whine too much. In red moon rising wer could NOT warp to zero. All warps were to 15 km and you had to slow boat for the gate. 30 Jumps would take 2 hour back then
Eve travel time was too FAST before rubicon for larger ships.
THey just undone some MISTAKE of making too fast to move large ships. I just hope they do the same with capital ships. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
1293
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:57:00 -
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just another reason not to fly BS :) Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg
I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
957
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Posted - 2013.12.10 09:58:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:For ALLLL these years playing eve, I have gotten used to a ship coming outta warp when it reaches around 75% of its top speed,
Now it comes out of warp at around 20% of its top speed, not to mention larger ships basically CRAWL SLOWLY along
as they FINALLY come outta warp, I myself find this soo uselessly annoying...
Rubicon overall I like, but after making 30 jumps in a BS, I feel I'd be better off playing Space Invaders
Oh and have a nice day ... sorry BS, it was so stupid large ships almost as fast with warp and comming out of warp , now interceptors en tackling frigs does what tey should do YOU KNOW , Intercept & tackle If you doing 30 jumps in a BS , youdoing something utterly wrong I seee, youre not allowed to take a BS from point A to point B in Eve, you just build it where you want it right  You still whine too much. In red moon rising wer could NOT warp to zero. All warps were to 15 km and you had to slow boat for the gate. 30 Jumps would take 2 hour back then Eve travel time was too FAST before rubicon for larger ships. THey just undone some MISTAKE of making too fast to move large ships. I just hope they do the same with capital ships. This.... is crap.
They were not too fast lol. Battleships were slow as hell. 10.5 second align time on every gate jump vs 3 seconds or less for a frig is 3 times as slow. Now they're even slower.
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Fr3akwave
Space Road Truckers.
9
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Posted - 2013.12.10 10:22:00 -
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As far as i can see all except 2 or 3 people so far didnt even bother reading the OP.
I mean... how hard is it? He is NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT WARP SPEED CHANGES, but about changes made to the warp exiting mechanic AFTER the warp.
Before rubicon, ships warped (no matter how fast) and when they landed on grid decellerating, as soon as they hit 75% max speed they were considered out of warp and therefore able to jump, lock, being locked, whatever. Now that velocity is 20% which means a considerable amount of time just more or less standing still 50m away from the spot where you will finally land. I have noticed this too and find it quite annoying. I also dont understand the reason behind this specific detail. Luckily i dont fly anything bigger than a cruiser these days. |

Dextrome Thorphan
RvB - RED Federation
36
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Posted - 2013.12.10 10:41:00 -
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Warp speed changes never made any sense to me. The acceleration changes, sure those makes perfect sense. But the warp changes... why would a little ship warp faster than a big ship? Wouldn't that big ship be able to install a much bigger, more efficient warp drive? I mean it's just very strange logic... |

Dextrome Thorphan
RvB - RED Federation
36
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Posted - 2013.12.10 10:42:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:For ALLLL these years playing eve, I have gotten used to a ship coming outta warp when it reaches around 75% of its top speed,
Now it comes out of warp at around 20% of its top speed
Yea that really is ******** and they never mentioned anything about that sneaky bastards |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
893
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Posted - 2013.12.10 10:46:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:For ALLLL these years playing eve, I have gotten used to a ship coming outta warp when it reaches around 75% of its top speed,
Now it comes out of warp at around 20% of its top speed, not to mention larger ships basically CRAWL SLOWLY along
as they FINALLY come outta warp, I myself find this soo uselessly annoying...
Rubicon overall I like, but after making 30 jumps in a BS, I feel I'd be better off playing Space Invaders
Oh and have a nice day ... sorry BS, it was so stupid large ships almost as fast with warp and comming out of warp , now interceptors en tackling frigs does what tey should do YOU KNOW , Intercept & tackle If you doing 30 jumps in a BS , youdoing something utterly wrong I seee, youre not allowed to take a BS from point A to point B in Eve, you just build it where you want it right  You still whine too much. In red moon rising wer could NOT warp to zero. All warps were to 15 km and you had to slow boat for the gate. 30 Jumps would take 2 hour back then Eve travel time was too FAST before rubicon for larger ships. THey just undone some MISTAKE of making too fast to move large ships. I just hope they do the same with capital ships. This.... is crap. They were not too fast lol. Battleships were slow as hell. 10.5 second align time on every gate jump vs 3 seconds or less for a frig is 3 times as slow. Now they're even slower.
TOO FAST. Crossign universe should not be something you do with a large ship at whim. !!! I miss the old times when crossing new eden was a whoel afternoon, that made conflicts, markets and locals way more regional.
"If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
893
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Posted - 2013.12.10 10:47:00 -
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Dextrome Thorphan wrote:Warp speed changes never made any sense to me. The acceleration changes, sure those makes perfect sense. But the warp changes... why would a little ship warp faster than a big ship? Wouldn't that big ship be able to install a much bigger, more efficient warp drive? I mean it's just very strange logic...
Because a speedboat is so much slower than a oil transport ship of 200 thousand tons... "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Yarda Black
Epidemic. Spaceship Samurai
1
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Posted - 2013.12.10 11:00:00 -
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I can see why this is annoying. The first few times I thought my ship was stuck. I got used to it now.
Personally I'm still pissed about the slow gate jumping. I sometimes press jump 5 times just to get through instead of just sitting there waiting for anything to happen. Maybe its just perception, but I feel something is going wrong while jumping through a stargate lately. |

Lucia Severasse
TEC-NOLOGY Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
1
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Posted - 2013.12.10 11:57:00 -
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i also feel the effect in BCs too, i agree that bigger ships should be slower but i think as with alot of ccp changes in the passed they tend to go from one extreme to another. a slight adjustment would be the middle ground where people could feel comfortable flying BC / BS 10 jumps or so. as it stands warping gate to gate feels like watching paint dry. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
925
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Posted - 2013.12.10 11:59:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:For ALLLL these years playing eve, I have gotten used to a ship coming outta warp when it reaches around 75% of its top speed,
Now it comes out of warp at around 20% of its top speed, not to mention larger ships basically CRAWL SLOWLY along
as they FINALLY come outta warp, I myself find this soo uselessly annoying...
Rubicon overall I like, but after making 30 jumps in a BS, I feel I'd be better off playing Space Invaders
Oh and have a nice day ... I actually like it.
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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