it probably wasn't posted due to how few people really care. also the "honourable third parties" was pretty much already a war declaration.

it probably wasn't posted due to how few people really care. also the "honourable third parties" was pretty much already a war declaration.

CCP, I need that jump capable Mega BPO now more than ever.

In particular, how will N3's territory get divided up after it's over?

I think ill reserve judgment before claiming who will turn out on top.

You forgot to mention that slowcats are bad

You know, upon thinking it over, I think the real winners here are the Russians.

Have some basic respect for your enemies.

In EVE?

And I mean, even otherwise, like it's been reciprocated?

I must say, I am NOT a Goon. But why on earth would you possibly expect them to treat N3 respectfully? Or vice versa for that matter?

Have some basic respect for your enemies. Intelligent people don't use crappy strategies and tactics. That would be stupidity - not intelligence. To talk down to your enemies because they use strong tactics is backwards.

You're exaggerating. I wasn't suggesting you need to bow down to your enemies and bullshit like that....But to spend half of your "war declaration" post crying about how the enemies are using strong strategies and tactics is just .

You're exaggerating. I wasn't suggesting you need to bow down to your enemies and bullshit like that....But to spend half of your "war declaration" post crying about how the enemies are using strong strategies and tactics is just .

Yep.. right until they are reset and then completely and utterly destroyed as their resources will be depleted and their players burnt out.

I mean, Goons and Russians have so much respect and love for each other and do not harbour any ill feelings at all towards each other

I'm actually a lot closer to being able to fly a Nag than I thought I was. I can't wait.

I just finished training my alt to moros because ''any dread just not phoenix'' , aaaaaaaaaaaand started training minnie ships on him now

Oh, the virtual slavery of changing doctrines. How I don't miss that at all.

I feel for you.

Maybe blue donut will be what it takes to build a stargate to Polaris and intimidate CCP into actually fixing sov.

I did mention the word alt right ?As in one of the other 4 accounts then this one so you don't need to feel too bad for me.



The only slavery i want sympathy for is my marriage

Speaking as another married man, whose wife, while very understanding about videogames normally, made me give up 2 of my 5 accounts...

You have that sympathy, and my axe.

Might i suggest you try some trade or research alt accs then , not time intensive at all yet verry healthy on your iskbalance.Basically with these accounts the total amount of ''logged in work'' is less then most people with only 1 account .

Maybe blue donut will be what it takes to build a stargate to Polaris and intimidate CCP into actually fixing sov.

The slowcat fleet, and of course the drone assist, of course they can be countered, just keep bombing them until even the carriers run out of sentries, will take a lot of bombing, but its doable.

You can recall sentries, you know.

Yes of course, but recalling, deploying, apply assist, recalling does reduce DPS a bit and not everyone is on the ball, I did not say it would be easy, its doable!

Given that no subcap fleet poses a threat to them I don't think time is something they fear much.

Although, this does make me wonder. Will the Russians become a CFC vassal state after this? In particular, how will N3's territory get divided up after it's over?

I was a little surprised this wasn't already posted. The Mittani recently posted on his news sight a new doctrine involving Dreadnaughts.

http://themittani.com/news/gsf-ceo-update-omegafleet-rising-0

It is unclear if were going to see any sov transfers or not, but its clear things between the CFC and N3 just got hotter.

~Rumtin

The blob works against itself in terms of time due to TiDi too, so I see your point, but I am still not convinced that Eve should be balanced to enable mass sub caps to win all the time, I was never in favour of the nerf to Titan main gun tracking to stop them being used on sub caps, though I did agree with that nerf in terms of the DD.

But this is different to the Super issue where the only counter is more supers, in this case you actually do have a counter in LR dreads.

It has yet to be tested.

as long as the 250 archons can refit fast enough and swap drones around, there's an escape mechanic that works when pointed, scrammed, bubbled, infinipointed, etc

as long as the 250 archons can refit fast enough and swap drones around, there's an escape mechanic that works when pointed, scrammed, bubbled, infinipointed, etc

What a whiny whiny whinefest that article is... Poor CFC can't wtfpwn N3 because they're using Slowcats.. lmao

"bottom line anything that attempts to mitigate the CFCs number advantage is OP and unfair to the blob. We also are using the mechanic we whine about to show how OP it is but its not hypocritical because we are doing it ironically. We just want the mechanics that don't support us winning to be nerfed, so we can go back to feeling smug about our ability to beat everyone due to the overwhelming subcap advantage.

Seriously complaining about slowcats because you have trouble fighting them is like the hi-sec miners complaining about how easy it is to suicide gank."

We can wreck the slowcats....the issue is that we kill the server before we reach critical mass. There is a big difference between a TEST slowcat fleet and a PL/NC. slow fleet under Erebus bonuses.

lol grrr Goon.

Oh I like this reply to Mittens:

Dis is wut day lern dem in da goonz skool.

Did dey lern to push da buton do.

Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?

Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?

Baltec fleet was the answer in Fountain, what has changed since? Sewers gone bad?

Baltec fleet was the answer in Fountain, what has changed since? Sewers gone bad?

We can wreck the slowcats....the issue is that we kill the server before we reach critical mass. There is a big difference between a TEST slowcat fleet and a PL/NC. slow fleet under Erebus bonuses.



lol grrr Goon.

read the linked TMC article again

250 man sentry carrier fleets became a thing.

Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?

A rather good chance, as long as they use the right tool, unlike the CFC did until now.
That's a silly argument, numbers aren't always the deciding factor.

Well lets look at this.

They are immune to any subcap fleet and they have the largest supercap fleet.

Who else has the power to stop them?

Well lets look at this.

They are immune to any subcap fleet and they have the largest supercap fleet.

Who else has the power to stop them?

Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?

Well lets look at this.

They are immune to any subcap fleet and they have the largest supercap fleet.

Who else has the power to stop them?

Well lets look at this.

They are immune to any subcap fleet and they have the largest supercap fleet.

Who else has the power to stop them?

maybe they should have the power since they're the best at finding things to abuse then

why don't you blob 200 titans

I mean, Goons and Russians have so much respect and love for each other and do not harbour any ill feelings at all towards each other

We've been on good terms with the Russians since back in 2006 so I'm not sure really what you're getting at.

Every internet spaceships war is fought on three theatres:
GÇó Morale and population metagame #1
GÇó Economy and logistics #2
GÇó Doctrines and skill level #3

Failure in any of these results in cascade of others, and when morale fails it takes a week for any entity to fold.

How will the slowcats be defeated? By making them show up less for fights. The Naglfar picture is only painted as a threatening scenario for that slowcat blob pilots, the Nag doctrine will probably never see the daylight because one day in the near future the slowcats will undock without the critical numbers to hold the spider up with good enough response. Then the morale spine cracks and N3 folds in a week.

Alternatively, the slowcats turn up with 300 every single undock and start to gain ground. No dread doctrine can reach the range of bouncer/warden with enough alpha. 140km - lol. My money is on the turn up f up though.

We've been on good terms with the Russians since back in 2006 so I'm not sure really what you're getting at.

Every internet spaceships war is fought on three theatres:
GÇó Morale and population metagame #1
GÇó Economy and logistics #2
GÇó Doctrines and skill level #3

Failure in any of these results in cascade of others, and when morale fails it takes a week for any entity to fold.

How will the slowcats be defeated? By making them show up less for fights. The Naglfar picture is only painted as a threatening scenario for that slowcat blob pilots, the Nag doctrine will probably never see the daylight because one day in the near future the slowcats will undock without the critical numbers to hold the spider up with good enough response. Then the morale spine cracks and N3 folds in a week.

Alternatively, the slowcats turn up with 300 every single undock and start to gain ground. No dread doctrine can reach the range of bouncer/warden with enough alpha. 140km - lol. My money is on the turn up f up though.

You guys are making my Nyx all hot and bothered.

Question: could you explain to a random subcap only pilot why do some of you supercap dudes use Hels?

a) They aren't immune to bombers, you won't break them but you'll stop them from dealing damage.

b) Not my issue.

That's not my point.

My point is that whining about a tactic that overcomes superior numbers is silly, and that is it.
All you have to do is come up with a superior tactic, which is what the "train dreads" post is for.

As for the supercap superiority: you're the attacking party.
Your industrial machine is intact, your carebears can do their thing freely.
Build your own, use alliance funds to buy pilots.
Problem solved.

Also, stop them doing...?

I have no business discussing this, but I just figured out I'd link you this stuff.

http://www.eveinfo.net/wiki/inde~840.htm
http://www.eveinfo.net/wiki/inde~839.htm

Look at the "Relations".

It's post-2006, mind you.
Try avoiding false statements.

Aren't immune to bombers? Have you any idea how many sentry drones fit in the 80,000m3 drone bay on an archon? I'll tell you its 3,200. Likewise at 7 bombs at a time you have NO chance of doing any appreciable to an Archon.

Also, supers and super pilots don't grow on trees.

Sure am glad I joined faction warfare before the oncoming **** storm.

Funny why -A- was removing RA from scalding pass more PL/NC. and CFC showed up than RA......soooooo.

WUT?

when you say "joined", we all know that it was the only other choice you had after losing all of your space.

To all the people crying about how mittens sotg is full of tears, lets not forget the tears shed by nulli when they lost their space to a blob.when ncdot lost their space to the blob. when test lost their space to the blob. they really should look up to solar who, didnt cry when they lost their space to the pl/ncdot/nulli/**** blob.

We you not at C-J6?

RA didn't show up to defend it, PL and NC. did....along with a fleet or so of CFC.

The fact that they're using broken tactics is no discredit to them. I mean, so are we. Broken is still broken.

When did "cfc please stop blobbing waaaa" become "cfc blob supercapitals or shut up about slowcats waaaaa"
This is new to me.

What does that even mean.

What does that even mean.

How CFC wins anything is beyond me... the stupidity of the average line members is just so damn funny.

It means Bob needs to take his pills.

IB4 Archon nerf...

Oh it'll happen in the next few weeks after a few more tears and well placed CFC members in a certain Corp...

How CFC wins anything is beyond me... the stupidity of the average line members is just so damn funny.

Never underestimate the destructive ability or stupid people in large numbers.

Never underestimate the destructive ability or stupid people in large numbers.

How CFC wins anything is beyond me... the stupidity of the average line members is just so damn funny.

Not worth anyone's attention.

Anything that happens in EVE has already happened before.

Not worth yours, maybe. But then this doesn't concern you.


But this part is blatantly false.

Yeah whatever punk. Hey, you should call your new campaing Autism Awareness '14.

If that's what it takes to get you help, sure.

Besides, it's all you have.

Oh you mean those test that goonz absorbed? I'm in a good position.

Tl;DR

Goon dev team tell Mittens he cant have his drone assist nerf.

Mittens throws a tantrum

Lost an egg and got ridiculed

Had another fit

Decided to make some isk by forcing Nag prices up, possibly to pay for a new set of Gloria Estefan pants.

Realises the CFC has finally become what they hated.

N3 roflstomps the CFC

Mittens sporting his new pants goes and plays WT, didnt want EVE anyway

Tl;DR

Goon dev team tell Mittens he cant have his drone assist nerf.

Mittens throws a tantrum

Lost an egg and got ridiculed

Had another fit

Decided to make some isk by forcing Nag prices up, possibly to pay for a new set of Gloria Estefan pants.

N3 roflstomps the CFC

Yes, I am indeed saying that we want approximately 37,000 characters getting into Naglfars

Can't tell if serious or trolling.

I for one can't wait.

BIG ASS Tornados go. Omega fleet should be a lot of fun

Not even sure if EVE has 37,000 people capable of flying dreads, but will be interesting if true.

All of them should cyno to one system at once!

CFC+pets are like Justin Bieber fans.

You soulnd mad....are you an N3 carrier pilot?

Don't speak to me FA maggot, you are nothing to me.



..And I don't do carriers..

One of the 130 some odd ceptor pilots trying to kill our bubblers then. Gotcha.

Why so mad?

Tl;DR

Goon dev team tell Mittens he cant have his drone assist nerf.

Mittens throws a tantrum

Lost an egg and got ridiculed

Had another fit

Decided to make some isk by forcing Nag prices up, possibly to pay for a new set of Gloria Estefan pants.

Realises the CFC has finally become what they hated.

N3 roflstomps the CFC

Mittens sporting his new pants goes and plays WT, didnt want EVE anyway

Massive fight in DY- atm with 341 archons
http://www.twitch.tv/sutonimh

I for one can't wait.

BIG ASS Tornados go. Omega fleet should be a lot of fun

Massive fight in DY- atm with 341 archons
http://www.twitch.tv/sutonimh

........and there goes the PL/NC. titan fleet onto field.

ya, will the node handle all this ****, dont think so..

....and more ******* carriers.....great.

http://eve-dingo.com/formRecive.php?id=eXTZ0IC


VIVA LA DOWNTIME!

I am reading this wrong or there really is 600+ carrier?

No it was doubled because I used the IGB and the server is busy dying......half all of the numbers http://eve-dingo.com/formRecive.php?id=QBbYp7Y there that one isn't hosed.



Getting there

You started losing Dreads, so you started jumping people in and out to crash the node? Well played.

CFC declares war on Tranquility*

goons have been doing that for years.

losing a fight? quick - crash the node to save face!

Massive fight in DY- atm with 341 archons
http://www.twitch.tv/sutonimh

Mittens tears post in 3...2...1...

Mittens tears post in 3...2...1...

Not sure what you are talking about. This aint over yet.

Yesm SOV is back unclaimed, looks like you have to do it again..

Who knows, maybe a disgruntled CCP employee will fall into Mittens lap again and he'll be able to flip a switch and claim total victory?




EL OH EL

You mean like how the goon FC clearly on live stream called for cfc to purposely crash the node and talked about logging in and out in system with alts would crash it to save his dread fleet. Then cheered when it happened? I do hope we see a ban incoming for blatant EULA violations like that.

You started losing Dreads, so you started jumping people in and out to crash the node? Well played.

I do hope we see a ban incoming for blatant EULA violations like that.

I'm totally ignorant on this, but what clause of the EULA has been violated?

Probably this:

CONDUCT
A. Specifically Restricted Conduct

Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.

1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.

Fair enough. That's seems clear and easy to interpret.

Even easyer when the goon fc was herd calling on twitch for goons to violate this. Twitch which is obv a partner of ccp now that ccp plans on syncing it to the ingamebrowser. If they let this go then ccp should just fire thier gms as this is the most obvious and blatant violation of EULA with direct proof of it happening.

How CFC wins anything is beyond me... the stupidity of the average line members is just so damn funny.

You mean like how the goon FC clearly on live stream called for cfc to purposely crash the node and talked about logging in and out in system with alts would crash it to save his dread fleet. Then cheered when it happened? I do hope we see a ban incoming for blatant EULA violations like that.

Yeah so what about the 15 flights of sentries PL dropped an abandoned back to back?

Post a video.

Confirming that ,just like a short Uncle from NK, all mentions of Omegafleet will now be scrubbed from the Goon records and DBRB will once again be /commisared back to grinding structures with bombers.

In other news, Mittens in his glorious new Gloria Estafan pants announces the new Goon doctrine of calling for everyone to get into a system where they are getting roflstomped to crash the node over open comms. Initial testing shows promise.

Implying anyone actually listens to him anymore.

So you're confirming it happened. That's 2.

Funny how we get blamed for for forcing the node down when there are 300 carriers dumping 10 sentries each and seemingly abandoning them to launch yet more.

Node was fine then suddenly titans and node dead

Funny how we get blamed for for forcing the node down when there are 300 carriers dumping 10 sentries each and seemingly abandoning them to launch yet more.

Node was fine then suddenly titans and node dead

i saw it more like...

node was fine....20 cfc dreadaughts go down...cfc starting to get completely crushed.... guy on cfc lifestream is talking about deliberate node crash and blam...

the node crashes.

Nice try at deflecting the blame there. When we have recorded evidence of dbrb calling for the cfc to crash the node to save the dreads i think that pretty much puts a nail in it. As n3 could ahve crashed the node at any time by cynoing in thier 200man super fleet right on top of those dreads but didnt cus they wanted the kills.

So because DBRB was being DBRB and said something jokingly you think that means that we deliberately crashed the node resulting in our ships becoming trapped and having to log into a likely very hostile bubblecamp with hundreds of carriers and a supercap/titan fleet ready to smack us down as we log in one by one?

Given a choice between that and losing the entire dread fleet, I can totally understand why the node crash would be preferable.

Congrats on finding a "solution" to your situation...

Nice try at deflecting the blame there. When we have recorded evidence of dbrb calling for the cfc to crash the node to save the dreads i think that pretty much puts a nail in it. As n3 could ahve crashed the node at any time by cynoing in thier 200man super fleet right on top of those dreads but didnt cus they wanted the kills.

i saw it more like...

node was fine....20 cfc dreadaughts go down...cfc starting to get completely crushed.... guy on cfc livestream is talking about deliberate node crash and blam...

the node crashes.

Of course it's not a coincidence that people make jokes, comments, etc. about nodes crashing before it happens, but that doesn't imply that we're doing it deliberately.
We've gotten pretty good at telling when it's about to happen, you see.

If we were actually trying to crash the node intentionally, CCP would be able to tell.

"They won't drop supers on our massive Dread fleet"
"And the Goon Celesti will blot out the sun"
"Of course we didn't crash the server to save our 200 dreads"

Spinzone online....

"They won't drop supers on our massive Dread fleet"
"And the Goon Celesti will blot out the sun"
"Of course we didn't crash the server to save our 200 dreads"

Spinzone online....

It's ironic though that people are quick to point fingers and say Mittens is crying by stating (the fact that) blobs of 250 slowcats are impervious to subcaps and therefore we're adapting (the opposite of crying) by training alpha nags.
And then these same people turning around and screaming and kicking and making a tantrum about a node crash, which kind of has a tendency to happen when you pile a ****-ton of people in system. And of course a node crash is going to benefit someone. That still doesn't mean anyone did it intentionally.

Between not playing the game and playing the game I'm pretty sure most people would choose to play the game.