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CONDIN
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Posted - 2006.03.09 21:28:00 -
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I guess i dont understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other. You cant even make a post within these forums stating your opinion without someone adding a nasty reply calling ya names or making fun of your grammer or something.
I fail to see why there are so many nasy ugly people in eve. Everyone with a paying account has forum acess. You also have a right to post a topic but simply because your view doesnt match someone else view your called names and made fun of. Nice world this eve. Got news for ya my strenghts arent in spelling and grammar. Im an MD. Im 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writting. Just try to read your doctors notes. But dispite my 13 yrs of upper education im made fun of. People really need to pay attention to how there hurting others in this game. Everyone has feelings. People have strenght and weaknesses. We're all peopl. Now u watch and read someone wanting to be smart will start calling me a fool or moron or go for the throat.Yea they'll probley even make fun of a waste of space for such a post. But ya realize what i said is all too true!
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Bhuknar Hhallas
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Posted - 2006.03.09 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Bhuknar Hhallas on 09/03/2006 21:31:36
 Originally by: CONDIN
I guess i dont understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other. You cant even make a post within these forums stating your opinion without someone adding a nasty reply calling ya names or making fun of your grammer or something.
I fail to see why there are so many nasy ugly people in eve. Everyone with a paying account has forum acess. You also have a right to post a topic but simply because your view doesnt match someone else view your called names and made fun of. Nice world this eve. Got news for ya my strenghts arent in spelling and grammar. Im an MD. Im 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writting. Just try to read your doctors notes. But dispite my 13 yrs of upper education im made fun of. People really need to pay attention to how there hurting others in this game. Everyone has feelings. People have strenght and weaknesses. We're all peopl. Now u watch and read someone wanting to be smart will start calling me a fool or moron or go for the throat.Yea they'll probley even make fun of a waste of space for such a post. But ya realize what i said is all too true!
Because you have a bunch on losers on here, who can't accept the fact that we all don't blindly follow CCP.
Real PvP is on the forums, EVE the game is just a pretty techdemo.
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Lisa Run
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Posted - 2006.03.09 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Lisa Run on 09/03/2006 21:32:17
No, you didn't waste space. It's a rather dense post. 
Sorry, couldn't resist. 
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.03.09 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: CONDIN
I guess i dont understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other. You cant even make a post within these forums stating your opinion without someone adding a nasty reply calling ya names or making fun of your grammer or something.
I fail to see why there are so many nasy ugly people in eve. Everyone with a paying account has forum acess. You also have a right to post a topic but simply because your view doesnt match someone else view your called names and made fun of. Nice world this eve. Got news for ya my strenghts arent in spelling and grammar. Im an MD. Im 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writting. Just try to read your doctors notes. But dispite my 13 yrs of upper education im made fun of. People really need to pay attention to how there hurting others in this game. Everyone has feelings. People have strenght and weaknesses. We're all peopl. Now u watch and read someone wanting to be smart will start calling me a fool or moron or go for the throat.Yea they'll probley even make fun of a waste of space for such a post. But ya realize what i said is all too true!
1: People from WoW joined game
2: Some people aren't very nice
3: people from WoW joined the game
4: ..... People from WoW ?
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.03.09 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Bhuknar Hhallas
Because you have a bunch on losers on here, who can't accept the fact that we all don't blindly follow CCP.
Real PvP is on the forums, EVE the game is just a pretty techdemo.
next time first wait for your awatar to load
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.03.09 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: CONDIN
I guess i dont understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other. You cant even make a post within these forums stating your opinion without someone adding a nasty reply calling ya names or making fun of your grammer or something.
I fail to see why there are so many nasy ugly people in eve. Everyone with a paying account has forum acess. You also have a right to post a topic but simply because your view doesnt match someone else view your called names and made fun of. Nice world this eve. Got news for ya my strenghts arent in spelling and grammar. Im an MD. Im 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writting. Just try to read your doctors notes. But dispite my 13 yrs of upper education im made fun of. People really need to pay attention to how there hurting others in this game. Everyone has feelings. People have strenght and weaknesses. We're all peopl. Now u watch and read someone wanting to be smart will start calling me a fool or moron or go for the throat.Yea they'll probley even make fun of a waste of space for such a post. But ya realize what i said is all too true!
and for u
stop stupid posting and all wil be ok
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Bertram Vetold
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Posted - 2006.03.09 21:47:00 -
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Because sometime in the past 10 years or so parents/guardians obviously stopped teaching their children how to treat others with any form of respect.
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Tatiana JInMei
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Posted - 2006.03.09 21:56:00 -
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I would like to tell you it is a part of the Eve community where it is all in good fun but this is a know effect of free speach mixed out with internet.
It is relatively easy to issult and abuse poeple when you are hidding behind an avatar of any sort (would it be the Eve forums or any other online form of community). I would say ignore post with any form of abuse or insults even if it includes a question. The poster should learn to behave.
Mind you a bit of smack talk is okay for kiding around as long as it is all in good will. As many humourist in Quebec would say a joke stops to be funny when you think it is true. Laughing at someone in good nature is healty but aim less insult or flaming just ruins the community. This community, like all the others, as mature and immature users. The sad part is immature user will take mutch more room.
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Sebastien LeReparteur
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Posted - 2006.03.09 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tatiana JInMei
I would like to tell you it is a part of the Eve community where it is all in good fun but this is a know effect of free speach mixed out with internet.
It is relatively easy to issult and abuse poeple when you are hidding behind an avatar of any sort (would it be the Eve forums or any other online form of community). I would say ignore post with any form of abuse or insults even if it includes a question. The poster should learn to behave.
Mind you a bit of smack talk is okay for kiding around as long as it is all in good will. As many humourist in Quebec would say a joke stops to be funny when you think it is true. Laughing at someone in good nature is healty but aim less insult or flaming just ruins the community. This community, like all the others, as mature and immature users. The sad part is immature user will take mutch more room.
Oups alt
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.03.09 21:58:00 -
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You want bad?
Check out Whineplay(^2) (Everquest(2) forums) or the Vault (Vault Network Forums).
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CONDIN
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:01:00 -
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Hmm now some intelegent posters are comming forward nice to see. Im for fun and so far ive taken it as such. Nice to see some intelect come forth.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:13:00 -
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why ppl are rude in eve ?
* some ppl are not wery nice
*some ppl have bad day ( like me)
*some ex wow
*some just loosers
*some newbs
*some stupid alt posters
but after all eve forums is not so bad
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:15:00 -
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Forums are for discussion and communication. People get impatient with people that aren't very good at expressing themselves, are hopeless at spelling, and aren't even vaguely acquainted with the rules of grammar. Why? Because it makes it difficult to understand what you are talking about and it makes it look like you just don't care about the people trying to read whatever you have written. It is why we have standardised rules for spelling and grammar after all.
A lot of people say: "Well loads of people are writing in their second or third language." Sure. Quite often though, people writing in a second language are a lot more precise and take a lot more care with how they express themselves than native speakers. I don't think anyone expects perfection. Just a reasonable use of full stops (periods), the odd comma here and there and most important of all: paragraphs.
If grammar and spelling is a weak area, then consider typing posts in Word (or Open Office) first and using its spelling and grammar checking facilities before posting on the forums. At least then people will (maybe) attack your ideas and not their presentation.
Unfortunately, there are also a lot of people that have no idea how to discuss or debate either. If you attack the poster rather than the post, then you aren't winning an argument, you are being an arse and making yourself look stupid.
For the most part, people in Eve are pretty helpful and friendly in my experience. There are one or two repetitive topics that crop up over and over again where people have fundamentally misunderstood what Eve is all about, however, and people tend to get a little impatient with that and respond quite negatively.
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:16:00 -
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EVE forums has a strict no stupidity, no cluelessness policy.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:17:00 -
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its YOU, not YA
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris
yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing
Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler
Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy
Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault
Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
its YOU, not YA
yya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ay ay ay ay yayayayayayya 
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:26:00 -
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also, right now i am soooo tempted to make comments about how much your name sounds like condom 
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris
yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing
Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler
Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy
Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault
Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
also, right now i am soooo tempted to make comments about how much your name sounds like condom
ehm realy ???
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Montague Zooma
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:30:00 -
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Nice to see I'm not the only one around here who was born in the 1950s (well, you could have a 1960 birthdate I guess).
As for the rudeness on this board, it's pretty much what I would expect from a game where theft, fraud, deceit, piracy and murder are considered fun and "fair". I would be shocked to see such behavior accompanied solely by polite discourse.
And yes, kids these days are less polite than we were brought up to be. What goes around comes around...we didn't live up to the standards of previous generations, either.
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Major Skillz
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:30:00 -
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I will gladly read posts you make. However, you can NEVER be my Doctor!
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Naleb Cilani
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:30:00 -
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Did you ever think that some people are just mean? I mean instead of going into speculation on the age or the living situation of a poster which a lot of people tend to do.
I think I will always remember this quote from my early MMO days:
"You may be older than me, but when it comes to PVP you're a ******* fetus"
Now what you do in real life really has no bearing when you're discussing the mechanics of this game. If it was available, I'm sure a great number of the local posters would have a PhD in Eve.
As for grammar, well, thats something else.
Quote:
if the repeatedly stated (not by players mind you) rules of the game don't agree with your "vision" of what this game ought to be... get lost.
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Malverious Prime
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Malverious Prime on 09/03/2006 22:34:21
Im sure the advent of instant messaging on cell phones has gone a long way in destroying all the hard work of Chuacer (spelling? - im a science student!) and Shakespeare. Some people are just too lazy to write in full! It is frustrating for those of us who froth at the mouth at a finely constructed sentence...
Find comfort in the fact that generally people are friendlier ingame than in the forums... in my experience at least. Ignore the tossers hiding behind the veil of 'freedom of speech', which is ironic really.
Bloody Americans.
SPELLING - BURN!!!!!
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Montague Zooma
Nice to see I'm not the only one around here who was born in the 1950s (well, you could have a 1960 birthdate I guess).
As for the rudeness on this board, it's pretty much what I would expect from a game where theft, fraud, deceit, piracy and murder are considered fun and "fair". I would be shocked to see such behavior accompanied solely by polite discourse.
If you are not joking and you seriously think people on these boards are "rude," you must be new to the internet.
The EVE-online forums are without a doubt the most civil and intelligent forums I have ever seen.
[23] Member: Official Forum Warrior
What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
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CONDIN
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:32:00 -
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Hey go for it but you (ya) see this is fun poking. Ive had some srious nasty stuff and thats what gets me people who just want to hurt. My grammar isnt that bad everyone here understands me. Its those who search for a flaw and use it to hurt you that im talking about. Im done posting nice to see some decent post instead of the down rght ugly nasty people who never learned anything from there parents ....TY DONE
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Galk
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
You want bad?
Check out Whineplay(^2)
LOL, i absolutely refuse point blank to play on their servers, i ditched the tfc community after a short term of listening to their crap.
I presume you are talking about wireplay, which you know wasn't so bad back in the day (q2 era), but after it came back, different story.
As for the Op, i hear it, i agree entirely with most of it, but people from all walks of life with bad days, good days, mood swings.. ect
Your going to get it im afraid.
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Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free.
We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
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Oxy Moron
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Montague Zooma
If you are not joking and you seriously think people on these boards are "rude," you must be new to the internet.
The EVE-online forums are without a doubt the most civil and intelligent forums I have ever seen.
You've never seen any rude posts on this forum? May I ask what drugs you are taking?
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:36:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 09/03/2006 22:37:03
Originally by: Trepkos
EVE forums has a strict no stupidity, no cluelessness policy.
Rule cite plz
And Galk, no, Whineplay = the Everquest message board. It got its name for a reason.
Digital Communist> The Jin-Mei are probably more profficient in training for Tofu and Noodles than Spaceship Command |
wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Montague Zooma
Nice to see I'm not the only one around here who was born in the 1950s (well, you could have a 1960 birthdate I guess).
As for the rudeness on this board, it's pretty much what I would expect from a game where theft, fraud, deceit, piracy and murder are considered fun and "fair". I would be shocked to see such behavior accompanied solely by polite discourse.
If you are not joking and you seriously think people on these boards are "rude," you must be new to the internet.
The EVE-online forums are without a doubt the most civil and intelligent forums I have ever seen.
i bad
cos from now i cant post in Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions
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Montague Zooma
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:38:00 -
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D'oh! Sorry about the alt post.
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Galk
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Galk on 09/03/2006 22:43:04
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The EVE-online forums are without a doubt the most civil and intelligent forums I have ever seen.
Not even close, the GPL (grandprix legends) forums/community are way ahead.
Where i came from before joining eve, completely placid for the most part.
* edit.. ohh ok, i never did everquest, my apology.
Nearly.... their was a tribes box sitting next to the eq box in game... i choose the former
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Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free.
We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
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Malverious Prime
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Oxy Moron
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Montague Zooma
If you are not joking and you seriously think people on these boards are "rude," you must be new to the internet.
The EVE-online forums are without a doubt the most civil and intelligent forums I have ever seen.
You've never seen any rude posts on this forum? May I ask what drugs you are taking?
por nub he is bigest poster in eve forums
bow for him
George Bush Jr is the president of the US... you going to bow to him? 
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Malverious Prime
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Oxy Moron
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Montague Zooma
If you are not joking and you seriously think people on these boards are "rude," you must be new to the internet.
The EVE-online forums are without a doubt the most civil and intelligent forums I have ever seen.
You've never seen any rude posts on this forum? May I ask what drugs you are taking?
por nub he is bigest poster in eve forums
bow for him
George Bush Jr is the president of the US... you going to bow to him?
now he sucks
i bow only for batman
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Galk
Edited by: Galk on 09/03/2006 22:43:04
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The EVE-online forums are without a doubt the most civil and intelligent forums I have ever seen.
Not even close, the GPL (grandprix legends) forums/community are way ahead.
Where i came from before joining eve, completely placid for the most part.
* edit.. ohh ok, i never did everquest, my apology.
Nearly.... their was a tribes box sitting next to the eq box in game... i choose the former
Remember I said "that I" have seen.
It depends on what part of the EVE forums though.
General Discussion is without a doubt a low point.
[23] Member: Official Forum Warrior
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Naleb Cilani
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:46:00 -
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Of course you have to bear in mind that some posts deserve a rude answer. 
Quote:
if the repeatedly stated (not by players mind you) rules of the game don't agree with your "vision" of what this game ought to be... get lost.
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Galk
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:48:00 -
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You reckon
GD isn't so bad, it's just where everybody posts so it gets swamped.
Alliance/corp id say....
9 out of 10 posts locked confirm it
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Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free.
We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Galk
You reckon
GD isn't so bad, it's just where everybody posts so it gets swamped.
Alliance/corp id say....
9 out of 10 posts locked confirm it
Alliance/corp has very well written posts.
Too bad its all stupid worthless smacktalk 
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2006.03.09 22:53:00 -
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The most frustrating forums are definitely the General Discussion due to the uncountable amount of people posting whines and general nonesense.
Next is the Crime and Punishment filled with WCS users, griefers and general *******s. Interesting nonetheless.
While Corporation and Organizations Discussions can contain a lot of smack, nonesense, and stupid stuff, its very interesting especially if you love politics.
For me the most enjoyable one is definitely the Ships forum. Good constructive posts and some great discussions although right around this time the pirates from the Crime and Punishment forum have flooded a bit over concerning WCS, but its usually nice and "clean"
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Acheron Cyc
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Posted - 2006.03.09 23:09:00 -
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About the spelling part, is fun to note that some non-native english speakers seem to have better grammar and spelling than the natives, which is rather sad actually but hey, thats just my opinion. :P
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.03.09 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bhuknar Hhallas
Edited by: Bhuknar Hhallas on 09/03/2006 21:31:36
Originally by: CONDIN
I guess i dont understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other. You cant even make a post within these forums stating your opinion without someone adding a nasty reply calling ya names or making fun of your grammer or something.
I fail to see why there are so many nasy ugly people in eve. Everyone with a paying account has forum acess. You also have a right to post a topic but simply because your view doesnt match someone else view your called names and made fun of. Nice world this eve. Got news for ya my strenghts arent in spelling and grammar. Im an MD. Im 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writting. Just try to read your doctors notes. But dispite my 13 yrs of upper education im made fun of. People really need to pay attention to how there hurting others in this game. Everyone has feelings. People have strenght and weaknesses. We're all peopl. Now u watch and read someone wanting to be smart will start calling me a fool or moron or go for the throat.Yea they'll probley even make fun of a waste of space for such a post. But ya realize what i said is all too true!
Because you have a bunch on losers on here, who can't accept the fact that we all don't blindly follow CCP.
Real PvP is on the forums, EVE the game is just a pretty techdemo.
The irony of this reply is enough to keep 1 BILLION aenemics healthy for 1000 years.
Originally by: Bl4zer
But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.
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Nee'kita Frist
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Posted - 2006.03.09 23:28:00 -
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I'm just bitter.
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.03.09 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Gonada on 09/03/2006 23:36:05
you wanna know why people are nasty to each other?
its becuse, at least IMHO, eve is like the last bastion of risk vs reward play, the last good game out here now where the devs dont cater blindly to the carebear fluffy crowd.
And yet, every day , I see whining people on the boards, this is too hard, that is too hard, nerf this, nerf that, waht cant i have the uber setups now, why can he have the uber setup, why didnt i get to pwn his ass, I got my ass pwned.
ect ect.
hell even today, I see a post with someone suggesting houses to decorate.... houses!! WTF are you gonna do with a house in eve besides cause hell lag, you dont even have an item to put in a house.
dumb people, carebear ideas, and totally witless whining posts bring out the worst.
IMO< if people can accept the fact that they dont need to change every friggin iota of a game to suit them, and live with doing some things the hard way, itll be better for all.
and if you dont like it, quit the bloody game, go build the game you want to play, and see how hard it is to listen to the BS that flows like a river thru here..
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Chimu Quien
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Posted - 2006.03.10 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Bertram Vetold
Because sometime in the past 10 years or so parents/guardians obviously stopped teaching their children how to treat others with any form of respect.
Yes times 10.
I particularly dislike the "pirate" types who insult everybody who doesn't play the game their way in low-sec.
But unfortunately, that's the Internet.
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Bhuknar Hhallas
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Posted - 2006.03.10 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Chimu Quien
Originally by: Bertram Vetold
Because sometime in the past 10 years or so parents/guardians obviously stopped teaching their children how to treat others with any form of respect.
Yes times 10.
I particularly dislike the "pirate" types who insult everybody who doesn't play the game their way in low-sec.
But unfortunately, that's the Internet.
Amen! Very well said.
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Asane
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Posted - 2006.03.10 00:23:00 -
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"Children nowadays are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannise their teachers. -Socrates"
Nothing really changed, and those a few generations older than us thought the same about us too
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Payne Bringer
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Posted - 2006.03.10 00:57:00 -
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I agree there are a lot of people who enjoy poking fun and also that there may be a nastier element to the forums, but every forum has them and, honestly, Eve is one of the better forums I've been on.
I'd also like to point out that, in my opinion, your comments on the thread here are not exactly the right way to give your view if you want a none-aggressive response from certain quarters.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Chimu Quien
Originally by: Bertram Vetold
Because sometime in the past 10 years or so parents/guardians obviously stopped teaching their children how to treat others with any form of respect.
Yes times 10.
I particularly dislike the "pirate" types who insult everybody who doesn't play the game their way in low-sec.
But unfortunately, that's the Internet.
Actually, the most foul mouthed people are the carebears who just got blown up. Dont pidgeon hole people, it's bound to be inaccurate.
Anyway, to the OP. I'm probably one of the grumpiest farts on the boards.
If you whine about crap or make stupid suggestions I'll rip them to shreads. I dont want EvE ruined by people who want the game on easy mode.
Why do some people make fun of poorly spelt / worded posts? I never do if it's obvious the person is trying / foreign / dyslexic etc
However, its obvious that some people dont have the self respect to make an understandable / presentable post yet they want respect shown to them. If they want respect then they can show me some. It's not fun when you need the Rosetta stone to decode someones post. Like Wanoah said, spellcheckers ftw.
My personal opinion is that your post falls into the latter category by the way. Doctors write untidily, not inaccurately or poorly.
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:09:00 -
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in agreement w thos that say tis is one of tha nicer (game)forums u will find, but to be brutally honest w/ u
if u get hurt or offended by something some cat says to u on tah internet maybe ur better off reading a nice book by urself
man id hate to see how ud react in real life to harsh words or criticism if u give an online forum that much weight
maybe u need to reevaluate ur selfesteem or somthing
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:21:00 -
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oh ho ho... if you think the EVE forums are rude or childish, i IMPLORE you to spend about 15 minutes on the WoW forums... you'll want to claw your eyes out.
EVE (in game and out) is lightyears ahead of all of the others games i've ever played when it comes to maturity and intelligent discourse.
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:22:00 -
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Rofl!
Doh, you've made me a necro. I just had to post a roflwaffle in your other thread. :)
"we have laws" Delusional nonsense I say.
The flames you get on these forums (aside from the annoying cheerleading by a certain majority of CCP) are issues that are quite valid to flame you over.
Taking grammar for an example, it is an English speaking forum. We expect at least an attempt at producing easy-to-read posts on your behalf. If you are incapable of doing so, then you do not belong on these forums. Talk with your corp mates in the game to get game hints and tips, or take it upon yourself to learn English a little better, It will only benefit you in the long run in real life anyway, so it is worth investing a little of your time into it.
We dont ask for perfect prose, just readable and easy to understand posts. We can even cope with the odd spelling mistake or two, and I've no doubt that I have probably made a few during writing this post, but I would say in my defence that my post is more legible than most on here.
Also if your 46 years old, I fail to see any signs in your post that suggest this. Taking "txt-spk" for example, my parents certainly wouldnt use "u" or "ya", and I have to say I dont know of many people over the age of 20 who would either, unless they are in a pinch and need to fit it into a limited number of characters.
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Asane
"Children nowadays are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannise their teachers. -Socrates"
Nothing really changed, and those a few generations older than us thought the same about us too
True that's nothing that hasn't been said before but it would be very short-sighted to assume today's youth are no worse than 10-20-30 years ago.
I know when I was 20something I didn't think it would be fun to burn down a bunch of churches.
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:42:00 -
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EVE forums are actually quite nice and helpful, with lotsa nice people attending. You want a perfect example of a forum thats NOT nice, helpful, and where 90% of the posts have been crap check out SWG: A kindergarten divided. I spent quite a lot of time there when I played the game, but when the NGE launched the forums where so bad that the Mods LOCKED DOWN parts of it! There where so many nasty posts there, and if they had banned all that where breaking the post rules, no gamers would be left! So they decided to let the players cool down and shut down the many sub forums :)
Reason for NGE: Players had complained to SOE that the game where too bloody difficult!!
So, when many new players come to these forums and complains that the game is too diffcult.. you cant expect much understanding from the vets of this game.
I am also a new player myself. 3-4 months old now. Lots of things still to learn. Lots of things to experience. Even when it comes to game mechanics! But this is all part of the fun! All part of the game which makes it so great! And if people actually took the time to look into it, they would see the beuty to function in a world that you cant learn and master within a week!
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Former SWG player and old-time Jedi
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Gauge Lockhart
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: Gauge Lockhart on 10/03/2006 01:42:36
Originally by: Vandar Broheem
Originally by: Asane
"Children nowadays are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannise their teachers. -Socrates"
Nothing really changed, and those a few generations older than us thought the same about us too
True that's nothing that hasn't been said before but it would be very short-sighted to assume today's youth are no worse than 10-20-30 years ago.
I know when I was 20something I didn't think it would be fun to burn down a bunch of churches.
Fallacious logic. YOU are not every 20something.
The youth of today are not to blame. the zygotes, fetus', infants and children they become are not somehow lacking in morals in comparison with earlier generations. The people that have them and teach them, however, are responsible.
Every generation has had their delinquints. sure, some liberal arts white-boys burned down a few churches. no one was hurt. 60 years ago, organized men burned down churches, burned crosses and hung people of a darker shade of skin color than themselves. Given the chioce, i'd rather have todays 'problems'.
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:45:00 -
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lol... someone should point him over to Genmay if he wants to see what real troll/flamebait forums are like.
If there were such a thing as the slums of the internet, Genmay would be it.
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Posted - 2006.03.10 02:17:00 -
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Getting in peoples faces and poking them in the electronic eye are all parts of life (esspecally if those said people are unable to in RL cos of being physically weak, unempowered (is that a word ?) at work/school etc or constrained by the laws of the society they live in).
This is where those people can do battle in a more open and level playground, and I chose that word for what it is, and the end result is that if you dont like the game dont stick your hand up to join the team.
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0bsession
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Posted - 2006.03.10 02:19:00 -
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I agree... but you'll find a-holes everywhere. And it doesnt bother me, cuz I know they are just losers in real life trying prove something. Its pathetic if you ask me... but egos are big here. Its amazing what people type, but the same jerks would never say it to your face. Why is that?
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Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.03.10 02:21:00 -
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If you want a serious example of drama, I can provide an mp3 from my WoW days of a vent conversation of us when we confronted our then guild leader about his dictatorship and pilfering most of the items out of our guild bank. which none of the other officers had access too. as a matter of fact, before the thread was deleted by GMs for "foul language and overall nastiness" that's a direct quote i got in an email when i complained, it had over 57,546 view with 5,489 replies. by far the largest thread ever on the forums.
but seriously, if you want to see some really rude nasty people look at wow. coming from there to here, and yes i still play both when i have the time, it's a truly refreshing place and experience.
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Posted - 2006.03.10 02:39:00 -
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The world is full of ppl that get their jollies by putting other ppl down. nothing you can do about it except try to grow thicker skin.
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Rachel McCloud
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Posted - 2006.03.10 03:09:00 -
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I can't believe how pretictable the mean & nasty peoples are.
It's so boring to see the same old nasty comments and is so easy for me to skip to the next post.
Why do they post these mean comments?
Who the hell knows *shrugs*
What I do know is, if your going to be mean & nasty on the forums, actually make it intertaining as all the old insults are way past there used by date.
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res0nance
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Posted - 2006.03.10 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Bhuknar Hhallas
Because you have a bunch on losers on here, who can't accept the fact that we all don't blindly follow CCP.
QFT.
The only people who ***** the forums are CCP a$$ kissers tbh
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Endakar
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Posted - 2006.03.10 03:58:00 -
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speaking of insults, how many people here know each other? if everyone says yes, then your delusional, or maybe i am.
simple truth is that most people are typing really fast so that they can reply to as many posts as they possibly can, maybe, just maybe cuz they wanna help out other people (its possible). while i can't say i know what their reasons may be for spending hours at a time replying to forums (i don't even know why i do it), i must pat those people on the back who keep the forums alive.
without these people (postatutes, i call them) that dilligently spend hours of each day keeping forums alive, we would not have anyone to poke fun of for bad grammer, but more importantly, i would never get any responses to my questions.
so, poo on you and all those who think that they are king sh!t of the forums just because you read the odd one and find some hole in it to pick away at. get your feckin arses in gear and put in the dedication that the other hard working postatutes do, and maybe the only thing you'll be able to laugh at then is yourself.
--lmfao--
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Posted - 2006.03.10 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: CONDIN
I guess i dont understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other. You cant even make a post within these forums stating your opinion without someone adding a nasty reply calling ya names or making fun of your grammer or something.
I fail to see why there are so many nasy ugly people in eve. Everyone with a paying account has forum acess. You also have a right to post a topic but simply because your view doesnt match someone else view your called names and made fun of. Nice world this eve. Got news for ya my strenghts arent in spelling and grammar. Im an MD. Im 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writting. Just try to read your doctors notes. But dispite my 13 yrs of upper education im made fun of. People really need to pay attention to how there hurting others in this game. Everyone has feelings. People have strenght and weaknesses. We're all peopl. Now u watch and read someone wanting to be smart will start calling me a fool or moron or go for the throat.Yea they'll probley even make fun of a waste of space for such a post. But ya realize what i said is all too true!
I wouldn't worry about it too much, the little prepubescent trolls here flaming you have only served to prove your point better than you ever could.
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Posted - 2006.03.10 04:08:00 -
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Edited by: Consrul on 10/03/2006 04:09:46
a lot of people who played woW..went to WoW due to boredom of DaoC..who went back to DaoC because SB died...who went to Daoc in the first place because AC1 died...who went to Ac1 in the first place because UO went blue and the graphics/concept were new....who went to UO because meridian59 hurt their eyes.....
uh not personal experience or anything ;p
Bottom line is...as a community grows..the larger the varience between player attitudes becomes..and loud minorties are magnified..and um..the larger a community gets..the less cuddly/quaint/familiar it becomes I suppose.
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.03.10 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: Payne Bringer
I agree there are a lot of people who enjoy poking fun and also that there may be a nastier element to the forums, but every forum has them and, honestly, Eve is one of the better forums I've been on.
I'd also like to point out that, in my opinion, your comments on the thread here are not exactly the right way to give your view if you want a none-aggressive response from certain quarters.
Kind regards
Payne
Wow, thats great. Almost every post he made was insulting someone/something. "hick, idiot" god that was a good laugh. What a hypocrite :P
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Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.03.10 22:52:00 -
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wow just wow
rofl
yup that qualifies as top of the line hypocrascy (spelling i know i know)
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.03.10 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: CONDIN
I guess i dont understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other. You cant even make a post within these forums stating your opinion without someone adding a nasty reply calling ya names or making fun of your grammer or something.
I fail to see why there are so many nasy ugly people in eve. Everyone with a paying account has forum acess. You also have a right to post a topic but simply because your view doesnt match someone else view your called names and made fun of. Nice world this eve. Got news for ya my strenghts arent in spelling and grammar. Im an MD. Im 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writting. Just try to read your doctors notes. But dispite my 13 yrs of upper education im made fun of. People really need to pay attention to how there hurting others in this game. Everyone has feelings. People have strenght and weaknesses. We're all peopl. Now u watch and read someone wanting to be smart will start calling me a fool or moron or go for the throat.Yea they'll probley even make fun of a waste of space for such a post. But ya realize what i said is all too true!
wait?
so becuase your from an upper school we should be nice to you?
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Posted - 2006.03.10 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Endakar
speaking of insults, how many people here know each other? if everyone says yes, then your delusional, or maybe i am.
simple truth is that most people are typing really fast so that they can reply to as many posts as they possibly can, maybe, just maybe cuz they wanna help out other people (its possible). while i can't say i know what their reasons may be for spending hours at a time replying to forums (i don't even know why i do it), i must pat those people on the back who keep the forums alive.
without these people (postatutes, i call them) that dilligently spend hours of each day keeping forums alive, we would not have anyone to poke fun of for bad grammer, but more importantly, i would never get any responses to my questions.
so, poo on you and all those who think that they are king sh!t of the forums just because you read the odd one and find some hole in it to pick away at. get your feckin arses in gear and put in the dedication that the other hard working postatutes do, and maybe the only thing you'll be able to laugh at then is yourself.
--lmfao--
hold up..
so your dissing the people that reply to your threads aswell??
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Posted - 2006.03.10 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 10/03/2006 23:04:40
Originally by: Laythun
wait?
so becuase your from an upper school we should be nice to you?
YES! Respect your burgeoisie masters, foolish proletarian! Mwahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.10 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 10/03/2006 23:04:40
Originally by: Laythun
wait?
so becuase your from an upper school we should be nice to you?
YES! Respect your burgeoisie masters, foolish proletarian! Mwahahahahahahahahahaha!
That would be "bourgeoisie". Really, when people mess up the spelling of bourgeoisie it really makes me despair
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Posted - 2006.03.10 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Asane
"Children nowadays are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannise their teachers. -Socrates"
Nothing really changed, and those a few generations older than us thought the same about us too
well, yes and no...
Please, someone sterilize me now for what I am about to say...
Tony Blair has it spot on with this whole respect thing he's banging on about. And for anyone who says otherwise, I say bah. 50 years ago - hell, 20 years ago, you would really not walk down the street and have some random guy you've never met, punch you in the face, and calmly walk off, as happened to my friend the other night when we were out together. He didn't say anything to the guy, he didn't even look at him or anything.
Anyway. Yes, the whole rose tinted glasses when looking back on stuff isn't anything new, but you just have to look at the rates of teenage pregnancy, ASBO's, little Britain to see that our world is changing, and most definately not for the better...
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Avon i bet your sister job is taking Mexicans to the united stated.
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Posted - 2006.03.10 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Endakar
without these people (postatutes, i call them) that dilligently spend hours of each day keeping forums alive, we would not have anyone to poke fun of for bad grammer, but more importantly, i would never get any responses to my questions.
yes, because Dark S has such bad grammar and spelling, his posts are completely unreadable...
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Originally by: Going commando
Avon i bet your sister job is taking Mexicans to the united stated.
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Brastagi
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Posted - 2006.03.11 00:09:00 -
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... oh and yess
sometimes those nasty and snarky replies can make you *****
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Posted - 2006.03.11 00:13:00 -
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Dont let the internet hurt your feelings, after all, it is the internet
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.11 00:17:00 -
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and i can't work the forum properly either. alt.
no skills, just luck.
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Not Usul
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Posted - 2006.03.11 00:17:00 -
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The internet seems to bring out the worst in people.
i'm a ******* ***** irl, though. So i can't honestly say i care what a load of gimps i'll never meet think of me.
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.03.11 00:56:00 -
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I'm a nice person, try to be nice online too, but some times people just cross that line and you want to break in some skulls. Then again, if I had a dollar for everyone I wanted to hit, I'd never have to work again
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.03.11 01:13:00 -
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It really is no use arguing with many people on the internet, you're never going to change their viewpoint (or at least they'll never admit it) so just don't bother. Even if you're blatantly right people will still rubbish what you're saying.
Best thing you can do with idiotic posts is ignore them.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.11 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
That would be "bourgeoisie". Really, when people mess up the spelling of bourgeoisie it really makes me despair
Yes, typo'ing ONE LETTER in a single post out of all the times I've replied with perfect prose definitely lumps me in with the d00dz of the forum. (And it was a typo, though I did have to check myself by looking up the spelling on Merriam-Webster)
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.11 01:47:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 11/03/2006 01:48:35
Guys, nowhere - not even on the internet - is arguing about spelling & grammar socially acceptable.
no skills, just luck.
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Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.03.11 02:47:00 -
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he's got a point guys, it's considered actually quite rude in most places.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.11 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Originally by: Deja Thoris
That would be "bourgeoisie". Really, when people mess up the spelling of bourgeoisie it really makes me despair
Yes, typo'ing ONE LETTER in a single post out of all the times I've replied with perfect prose definitely lumps me in with the d00dz of the forum. (And it was a typo, though I did have to check myself by looking up the spelling on Merriam-Webster)
Chill, it was a joke. Satire ftl arraprently. I couldnt spell that word if you held a gun to my head. I had to look it up
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Montague Zooma
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Posted - 2006.03.11 08:39:00 -
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Quote:
It really is no use arguing with many people on the internet, you're never going to change their viewpoint (or at least they'll never admit it) so just don't bother. Even if you're blatantly right people will still rubbish what you're saying.
I never thought of it that way before. You're blatantly right!
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Posted - 2006.03.11 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Usul Faust
Edited by: Usul Faust on 11/03/2006 01:48:35
Guys, nowhere - not even on the internet - is arguing about spelling & grammar socially acceptable.
Its perfectly acceptable. Would you not say anything to someone who was talking complete jibberish to you? Perhaps a drunk in the street starts spouting off a rant in your general direction but it makes no sense, all you hear is "HHAHDYYF FBBABEHGHGGGGLLL AAAAAAAHFNFKKL!!!!" Like clockwork orange only more F'd up!
We arent talking about perfect prose, we're talking about taking the time to make your post readable to others.
I find it rude that someone expects me to take the time to read their posts and formulate an opinion, yet seems to go out of their way to make it almost impossible to do so.
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Posted - 2006.03.11 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: M3ta7h3ad on 11/03/2006 11:02:05
Originally by: Montague Zooma
Quote:
It really is no use arguing with many people on the internet, you're never going to change their viewpoint (or at least they'll never admit it) so just don't bother. Even if you're blatantly right people will still rubbish what you're saying.
I never thought of it that way before. You're blatantly right!
I think the saying goes: "Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics - even if you win, your still retarded."
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2006.03.11 11:20:00 -
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People only get insulted or offended if they feel like it, especially over the internet. Why does it mean anything when Mr.Nobody of the Internet calls you names or is offensive? Just discard any part of a post that is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, and you're done. The moderator team spend plenty of time shooting down excessively rude people and flamers.
I mean, there are only 2 cases in which answering to irrelevant insults and stuff on the forums is reasonable; a) You're losing the discussion and decide to adopt the "BOO HOO HE'S BEING NASTY!" doctrine of forum warfare or b) You're bored.
Also, there's a fine line between being blunt and -a little bit- impolite while making an argument, and being a total flaming jerk for no concievable reason.
So like, grow thicker skin, or in the words of Mr.Timberlake; Cry me a river.
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Posted - 2006.03.11 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: 0bsession
I agree... but you'll find a-holes everywhere. And it doesnt bother me, cuz I know they are just losers in real life trying prove something. Its pathetic if you ask me... but egos are big here. Its amazing what people type, but the same jerks would never say it to your face. Why is that?
And you can prove this how? Or is this more trite and pointless speculation from yet another arm-chair sociologist? I'll wager the latter.
Honestly, do you think this only happens on gaming forums? The company I work for holds a private forum for share-holders and other "friendly" businesses and I must tell you, you would be apalled at the Quake chatroom-like mentality that is exhibited there. In fact, I know at least 2 posters there are PAID to troll the forums, hired by a comepting business.
This place isn't as bad, not by a long shot.
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if the repeatedly stated (not by players mind you) rules of the game don't agree with your "vision" of what this game ought to be... get lost.
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Darth Vroevl
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Posted - 2006.03.11 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: 0bsession
Its amazing what people type, but the same jerks would never say it to your face. Why is that?
Because in real life, people make more of an effort to curb behavior that warrants flaming? It's true that some people will start trash talking when you demolish their arguments, but there are just as many people who will try to change the subject, ignore rebuttals, engage in character assasination, or just flat out lie rather than admit they were wrong, which is every bit as bad.
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Posted - 2006.03.11 15:38:00 -
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I just blame the fact we are all human nothing is or ever will be perfect in this world
but still a little respect goes a long way
allthough if somone calls you names and hes not respecting you would it be disrespectfull to tell him not to do so ?
would that not be disrespecting his opinion of you ?
Ah the dilemma of everything in the end it just comes down to getting along with your fellow man and looking past your differances try to get along even how hard it may be
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Posted - 2006.03.11 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Viceroy
People only get insulted or offended if they feel like it
Sometimes I'm not rude but people still feel offended due to that yes.
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I mean, there are only 2 cases in which answering to irrelevant insults and stuff on the forums is reasonable; a) You're losing the discussion and decide to adopt the "BOO HOO HE'S BEING NASTY!" doctrine of forum warfare or b) You're bored.
Sometimes I get rude because of people doing (a) to me.
Sometimes I get more involved then I should because of (b).
Sometimes it's both.
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Also, there's a fine line between being blunt and -a little bit- impolite while making an argument, and being a total flaming jerk for no concievable reason.
And oftenly, people just can't handle the fact that some people just have a better argument. So they resort to blowing edginess in the argumentation out of proportion. You know, the good old "you're a griefer so sure you hate me"-argument.
All in all, sometimes people are rude without intention, sometimes they're rude knowingly, and sometimes people just whine about the forums being nasty to them because they can't deal with the arguments.
Who knows which is true in any single case ? So my advice is not taking anything too seriously, and yes i know thats not always easy It probably helps that i like arguing myself.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.03.11 16:05:00 -
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reason is simple
u don`t have to take any responsability for your actions
say what u say to a group of ppl in a bar and it would prolly cost you a trip to the hospital
alt are just another way to dodge in game responsability and trully hide ur identity, real life and ingame
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Posted - 2006.03.11 16:15:00 -
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Really this forum isn't so bad. Most of the community is relatively helpful and it is on a way higher plane than the infantile drivel on the WoW forums.
However, there's just something in the water around here that gives the forum that little bit of an edge, fools are not suffered lightly and the game is getting old enough now that many of the vets have seen a lot of the issues that are raised on the forum about 15 times over the last 3 years so can be a little caustic in our responses because of that.
I don't think it's an unreasonable argument to say that the forums reflect the game a little in terms of the harshness of Eve, the more severe death penalty than other games, the allowance of piracy, suicide ganking, scamming, corp theft etc.
There's also a large proportion of the community, especially those who have been around a while (not just the salty old vets like Rod, Viceroy, Avon etc. but people who've really got into Eve over a good few months to a year or more), who are fiercely defensive over the style of game that Eve is and it's relative harshness compared to other MMOG's. Consequentially any post that has the telltale wiff of a whine about game mechanics suggesting a dumbing down or more sheltered approach to gameplay get's pretty much stomped on immediately.
I find some of the 'omg I post on the forums twelvety-hundred and eleventy-one times a day I am uber' brigade to be far more annoying than any aggressively flaming element. In fact what is worse is the group of fanbois that follow the compulsive posters around praising them for spamming the forum with their often useless drivel. Now if that's the most annoying thing about this forum it's got to be a pretty gentle community at heart
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.03.11 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kerushi
reason is simple
u don`t have to take any responsability for your actions
say what u say to a group of ppl in a bar and it would prolly cost you a trip to the hospital
alt are just another way to dodge in game responsability and trully hide ur identity, real life and ingame
Alts yes. But mains ?
The fact I post alot in teh forums has an impact on my reputation as a character. Ingame as well.
As you can read above (salty ? wtf Blacklight, i'm just bored sometimes  ), this can mean that quite alot of people respect you less ingame.
As a reasonably active player being part of a high-profile corp I must have some consideration for that effect too. Besides the fact that I do care about the reputation of my char somewhat out of my own volition (sp).
So, alts, yes, banzor em all. Mains ? No, as the results of your actions here can be found ingame.
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Demure Guise
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Posted - 2006.03.11 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: CONDIN
Im an MD. Im 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writting. Just try to read your doctors notes. But dispite my 13 yrs of upper education im made fun of.
If your posts are actually being made fun of, it is because your spelling is so poor. It's SO bad that I have serious difficulty believing you are an adult, let alone an adult possessing 13 years of higher education. How you could possibly pass written examinations or submit a doctoral thesis with such a limited grasp of basic spelling actually baffles me. Frankly, I wouldn't trust a prescription written by a doctor who routinely uses such appalling spelling.
I have no issues with people who have genuine disabilities, or for whom English isn't a first language, but if that's the standard of writing and presentation that 13 years of higher education has left you with, God help the education system.
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Niiro Hanzo
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Posted - 2006.03.11 19:03:00 -
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We have to take into account how people discuss things. Some do it in a calm way and are hard to offend. Some are more hot livered and intense. And so on. I myself easily get "enthusiastic" when discussing/arguing about a matter that I care for, I can even get (as I suspect most would define it as) rude. Then again I simmer down immediatly after and can be best friends again. That's simply the way I am and I hardly think that will ever change. I even prefer to argue with others who are like me, it makes the entire agrument a real experience
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.03.12 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Alts yes. But mains ?
The fact I post alot in teh forums has an impact on my reputation as a character. Ingame as well.
As you can read above (salty ? wtf Blacklight, i'm just bored sometimes ), this can mean that quite alot of people respect you less ingame.
As a reasonably active player being part of a high-profile corp I must have some consideration for that effect too. Besides the fact that I do care about the reputation of my char somewhat out of my own volition (sp).
So, alts, yes, banzor em all. Mains ? No, as the results of your actions here can be found ingame.
lol the term 'salty' in English vernacular comes from our old sailing days (like a lot of english terminology - "cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey" being another one ;) ) and I just meant it in terms of the fact that some of us have been around for a while and are therefore "salty old seadogs"
It wasn't an insult mate just more crazy English-speak. If I was telling you that you forum ***** too much I'd be far more direct about it
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Cutie Chaser
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Posted - 2006.03.12 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: CONDIN
I guess i dont understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other. You cant even make a post within these forums stating your opinion without someone adding a nasty reply calling ya names or making fun of your grammer or something.
I fail to see why there are so many nasy ugly people in eve. Everyone with a paying account has forum acess. You also have a right to post a topic but simply because your view doesnt match someone else view your called names and made fun of. Nice world this eve. Got news for ya my strenghts arent in spelling and grammar. Im an MD. Im 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writting. Just try to read your doctors notes. But dispite my 13 yrs of upper education im made fun of. People really need to pay attention to how there hurting others in this game. Everyone has feelings. People have strenght and weaknesses. We're all peopl. Now u watch and read someone wanting to be smart will start calling me a fool or moron or go for the throat.Yea they'll probley even make fun of a waste of space for such a post. But ya realize what i said is all too true!
Assuming that you have any sort of manners, when you post you have (hopefully) decided:
1. This is important enough that I feel the need to post it so that others may read it.
If it isn't, then have the good taste not to spam the message boards with it.
If it is, have the common curtesy to take the short amount of time to make sure it is indeed readable. Rather or not you are 'weak in writing' you are perfectly capable of re-reading your post ONE time to catch things such as 'nasy' instead of 'nasty' or 'acess' instead of 'access'. Most people don't tend to harass people for small mistakes, such as 'thier' vs 'there', but instead they attack posts that appear to have been pulled from a pile of 3rd grade essays.
If you want to be taken seriously then please put out minimal effort. I mis-spell all the time, yet I've never been harassed for my grammer(though someone will surely find all the mistakes in this post).
In short, if you want to be taken seriously and treated as an adult, please step up to the plate and act like one.
(As a side note for anyone for whom english is a second language, then this does not apply, and feel free to tell people. Only a real asshat goes out of their way to harass a foreign speaker)
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.03.12 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: SpellChecker FTW
I guess I don’t understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other. You can’t even make a post within these forums stating your opinion without someone adding a nasty reply calling you names or making fun of your grammar or something.
I fail to see why there are so many nasty ugly people in eve. Everyone with a paying account has forum access. You also have a right to post a topic but simply because your view doesn’t match someone else view your called names and made fun of. Nice world this eve. Got news for you my strengths aren’t in spelling and grammar. I’m an MD. I’m 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writing. Just try to read your doctors notes. But despite my 13 yrs of upper education I'm made fun of. People really need to pay attention to how there hurting others in this game. Everyone has feelings. People have strengths and weaknesses. We're all people. Now you watch and read someone wanting to be smart will start calling me a fool or moron or go for the throat. Yea they'll probably even make fun of a waste of space for such a post. But you realize what I said is all too true!
Since we're on the topic of spelling and grammer...
That took maybe 3 minutes to go through with Word and have the spellchecker fix up. That included fixing any short form (u, ya, etc) that I saw. If your not good at spelling and grammer, then use this method.
http://caldarisurplus.2myip.net
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Demure Guise
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: JamesTalon
Originally by: SpellChecker FTW
I guess I donÆt understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other. You canÆt even make a post within these forums stating your opinion without someone adding a nasty reply calling you names or making fun of your grammar or something.
I fail to see why there are so many nasty ugly people in eve. Everyone with a paying account has forum access. You also have a right to post a topic but simply because your view doesnÆt match someone else view your called names and made fun of. Nice world this eve. Got news for you my strengths arenÆt in spelling and grammar. IÆm an MD. IÆm 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writing. Just try to read your doctors notes. But despite my 13 yrs of upper education I'm made fun of. People really need to pay attention to how there hurting others in this game. Everyone has feelings. People have strengths and weaknesses. We're all people. Now you watch and read someone wanting to be smart will start calling me a fool or moron or go for the throat. Yea they'll probably even make fun of a waste of space for such a post. But you realize what I said is all too true!
Since we're on the topic of spelling and grammer...
That took maybe 3 minutes to go through with Word and have the spellchecker fix up. That included fixing any short form (u, ya, etc) that I saw. If your not good at spelling and grammer, then use this method.
Sadly, even this is still not always 100% effective, although it is, as all can clearly see, a VAST improvement on the OP's horrendous spelling and "txt-speak".
Spellcheckers do NOT help when people are using a correctly-spelled word in completely the wrong place, believing the spellchecker is an infallible safety net when in fact the spellchecker is a simpleton. Purely for purposes of illustration, the word "your", in the post you made, should actually be "you're", as in "you are". Nothing to get agitated about, for sure, but it shows just how far you can trust a program that 'checks' spelling and grammar - basically, not very far!
You can often tell when someone relies solely on a spellchecker to check their text - a local paper here recently used the word "grizzly" when in fact they meant "grisly". Bad enough in a casual posting, but in a newspaper? In an article written by a 'qualified' reporter?
The best spellchecker you own is the one inside your head. Accept no substitute, and update it frequently :)
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2006.03.12 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Malverious Prime
Im sure the advent of instant messaging on cell phones has gone a long way in destroying all the hard work of Chuacer (spelling? - im a science student!) and Shakespeare.
Chaucer was un-readable by most of his generation due to the style of writing and his ability to invent new words and phrases. Shakespeare was a complete pain in the arse for making up new words in his works.
If anything they were the very soul of SMS back in their day
But yes, they could at least write. Even if no-one could understand them without a little help.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.03.12 16:31:00 -
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EvE has the most polite and mature forums of any game I play.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Brother Zephyl
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Posted - 2006.03.12 16:48:00 -
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People are mean because :
internet is anonymous
most of the games are played by young people, teenagers or in their 20ies, and of course have alot of things to prove to themselves
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.12 17:33:00 -
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Right. Because age is a surefire indication of how correct somebody is. Luckily for everybody else, there are people as mature as you to repeatedly point this out. Its hilarious that age is always the first defence people produce when somebody points out that they're a semi-literate moron. "OH! IM 40! WHATEVER YOUR TALKIN ABOUT CLEARLY DONT APPLY TO ME!"
It does apply. It will always apply.
The forums are nasty because you get lumped in here with random people you'd probably not like very much in real life, but somehow we're all expected to get along on a forum.
Also: The eve forums aren't more mature than most other videogame forums, they just have better grammar and more maths.
lots of love
usul, aged 4 and a half
no skills, just luck.
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.03.12 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: CONDIN
I guess i dont understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other.
I fail to see why there are so many nasy ugly people in eve.
Generally, it's because someone comes on and posts something like that.
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Got news for ya my strenghts arent in spelling and grammar. Im an MD. Im 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writting. Just try to read your doctors notes. But dispite my 13 yrs of upper education im made fun of.
That is because the only thing we truly know of you is how you communicate. If you don't come across as educated, people will conclude that you aren't.
Personally, I'd never trust a doctor that was that bad with spelling and grammar. If you can't even spell "grammar", what are the odds that you'll misspell my condition, or the medication you prescribe, and there will be serious consequences for me as the patient?
I'm not trying to flame you, I'm just offering an honest answer as to why you'll get that sort of response.
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Posted - 2006.03.14 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: MMXMMX on 14/03/2006 05:44:13
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Montague Zooma
Nice to see I'm not the only one around here who was born in the 1950s (well, you could have a 1960 birthdate I guess).
As for the rudeness on this board, it's pretty much what I would expect from a game where theft, fraud, deceit, piracy and murder are considered fun and "fair". I would be shocked to see such behavior accompanied solely by polite discourse.
If you are not joking and you seriously think people on these boards are "rude," you must be new to the internet.
The EVE-online forums are without a doubt the most civil and intelligent forums I have ever seen.
U lie !!!!
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Montague Zooma
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Posted - 2006.03.14 06:13:00 -
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LOL there's my quote again.
Just to be clear...I didn't say this board was rude. That was Dark's interpretation. What rudeness there is to be found here is exactly what I would expect from a game of this nature.
Just because there are some rude posts does not mean the whole board is rude.
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Posted - 2006.03.14 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Montague Zooma
LOL there's my quote again.
Just to be clear...I didn't say this board was rude. That was Dark's interpretation. What rudeness there is to be found here is exactly what I would expect from a game of this nature.
Just because there are some rude posts does not mean the whole board is rude.
Rude peaple rule the world and olso the boards :) lol
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Transmit Failure
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Posted - 2006.03.14 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: CONDIN
I guess i dont understand why so many people in eve in general are nasty to each other. You cant even make a post within these forums stating your opinion without someone adding a nasty reply calling ya names or making fun of your grammer or something.
I fail to see why there are so many nasy ugly people in eve. Everyone with a paying account has forum acess. You also have a right to post a topic but simply because your view doesnt match someone else view your called names and made fun of. Nice world this eve. Got news for ya my strenghts arent in spelling and grammar. Im an MD. Im 46 yrs old and a great number of us are strong in science and poor in writting. Just try to read your doctors notes. But dispite my 13 yrs of upper education im made fun of. People really need to pay attention to how there hurting others in this game. Everyone has feelings. People have strenght and weaknesses. We're all peopl. Now u watch and read someone wanting to be smart will start calling me a fool or moron or go for the throat.Yea they'll probley even make fun of a waste of space for such a post. But ya realize what i said is all too true!
i highly doubt you are an MD. even if you were, just because you've had 13 years of upper education doesn't make you not a dumbass when it comes to everything else.
by the way, you spelled a lot of things wrong and you are a fool and/or moron and wasting space.
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