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DeathWarrior
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Posted - 2006.03.10 07:52:00 -
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Edited by: DeathWarrior on 10/03/2006 07:59:32
Ok.. I have HAC 5 soon and bought my Deimos last night.
Now need a pvp setup =) I was thinking :
1042/1075 MW
392.5/412.5 CPU
Cap Capacity : 1375 @ 160.8sec regen .. 20.95 CPS
Top Velocity : 1442.996 m/s
2.64 sec ROF
HIGH-SLOTS :
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> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 0 | 0] Empty Slot
MED-SLOTS :
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> [ 150 | 50] Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
> [ 1 | 22] Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
> [ 1 | 24] Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I
LOW-SLOTS :
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> [ 173 | 28] Medium Armor Repairer II
> [ 2 | 30] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
> [ 2 | 30] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
> [ 1 | 30] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
> [ 1 | 30] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
> [ 0 | 2] Local Power Plant Manager: Capacity Power Relay I
DRONES: 5 Vespa 2's
DPS From Guns : 853.973 dps
DPS From Drones : 163.125
Total DPS : 1017.098
Resistances : EM = 76.52
Explosive = 47.17
Thermal = 80.92
Kinetic = 90.46
What you think, any suggestion on what i should change?
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Arctic Angel
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Posted - 2006.03.10 08:26:00 -
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 Originally by: DeathWarrior
Total DPS : 1017.098
Originally by: DeathWarrior
What you think, any suggestion on what i should change?
I'd suggest a nerf...
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2006.03.10 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Arctic Angel
Originally by: DeathWarrior
Total DPS : 1017.098
Originally by: DeathWarrior
What you think, any suggestion on what i should change?
I'd suggest a nerf...
Ever considered the fact that you pretty much never find yourself in a situation where you can even hit your target?
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.03.10 08:35:00 -
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Can you tell me where you are so i can blow you up in my Zealot pls? FANKOO 
Seriously, swop one EAN II for a explosive hardener and fill that hole in your resist (and make it easier for my lasers to explohohode you!) and your pretty much set.
Maybe try and squeeze a small nos in the spare high?
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.03.10 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: DeathWarrior
Edited by: DeathWarrior on 10/03/2006 08:37:25
Edited by: DeathWarrior on 10/03/2006 07:59:32
Ok.. I have HAC 5 soon and bought my Deimos last night.
Now need a pvp setup =) I was thinking :
1042/1075 MW
392.5/412.5 CPU
Cap Capacity : 1375 @ 160.8sec regen .. 20.95 CPS
Top Velocity : 1442.996 m/s
2.64 sec ROF
HIGH-SLOTS :
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> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 0 | 0] Empty Slot
MED-SLOTS :
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> [ 150 | 50] Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
> [ 1 | 22] Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I < WEB
> [ 1 | 24] Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I
LOW-SLOTS :
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> [ 173 | 28] Medium Armor Repairer II
> [ 2 | 30] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
> [ 2 | 30] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
> [ 1 | 30] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
> [ 1 | 30] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
> [ 0 | 2] Local Power Plant Manager: Capacity Power Relay I
DRONES: 5 Vespa 2's
DPS From Guns : 853.973 dps
DPS From Drones : 163.125
Total DPS : 1017.098
Resistances : EM = 76.52
Explosive = 47.17
Thermal = 80.92
Kinetic = 90.46
What you think, any suggestion on what i should change?
A good general setup, but when you take into account what you're likely to be fighting, you may want to rethink a bit.
Your guns+MWD+tank are going to seriously hurt your cap. You aren't running any nos, and many ships will be. With such high cap use and no nos to counter enemy nos, you'll find yourself running into cap problems often. Especially when you consider that blasters need a lot of MWDing to get into range in the first place.
Your DPS is ridiculously high, so you should be able to afford to drop a magstab for another relay. After that I'd play around with your setup to fit some variety of nos in (im no expert on deimos fitting, I never saw the point over a Thorax :P ). At the very least, your remaining stats should let you fit a small nos.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.03.10 09:57:00 -
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Edited by: Gariuys on 10/03/2006 09:57:45
DPS is ridiculously high cause someone's calculator is broken.
I'm a completely maxed out deimos pilot, implants/skills the works. And I get 800dps using void which includes completely maxed out hammerhead drones ( 5 of em ) ( and 2x SS mag fields )
So total bull**** that you get over 1000dps
And drop cap relay for RCU, and replace small nos with medium nos... presto decent setup ( good setup plugs that explosive resist hole )
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DeathWarrior
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Posted - 2006.03.10 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: DeathWarrior on 10/03/2006 13:11:10
Easy Garyius!
I have added 5 drones, instead of 4. So DPS is higher than it should be.
I have been training specifically for the deimos. I also have maxed skills and implants Garyius.
I was planning on having the enemy dead before dieing myself, but I guess thats only 1v1 situations. I will possibly replace 1 magstab 2 with a PDU 2..
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DeathWarrior
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Posted - 2006.03.10 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: DeathWarrior on 10/03/2006 13:24:45
Ok. Ive taken out one of the EANM II and replaced it with a Energized Explosive II.
Resistances : EM : 70
Explosive : 62.58
Kinetic : 87.81
Thermal : 75.63
Also replaced one Mag Stab II with a PDU II
DPS: 531.782 ...
That big a damage drop??
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DeathWarrior
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Posted - 2006.03.10 13:27:00 -
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HIGH-SLOTS :
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> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 142 | 29] Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xVoid M]
> [ 9 | 15] Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
MED-SLOTS :
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> [ 150 | 50] Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
> [ 1 | 22] Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
> [ 1 | 24] Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I
LOW-SLOTS :
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> [ 173 | 28] Medium Armor Repairer II
> [ 2 | 30] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
> [ 1 | 30] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
> [ 0 | 2] Local Power Plant Manager: Capacity Power Relay I
> [ 0 | 15] Power Diagnostic System II
> [ 2 | 30] Energized Reactive Membrane II
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Asnar
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Posted - 2006.03.10 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: Asnar on 10/03/2006 13:35:50
Originally by: DeathWarrior
Edited by: DeathWarrior on 10/03/2006 13:24:45
Ok. Ive taken out one of the EANM II and replaced it with a Energized Explosive II.
Resistances : EM : 70
Explosive : 62.58
Kinetic : 87.81
Thermal : 75.63
Also replaced one Mag Stab II with a PDU II
DPS: 531.782 ...
That big a damage drop??
It's got nothing to do with going easy, it is quite literally impossible to do more damage in a 2 mag field ion deimos then Gariuys does. SO you're numbers are wrong. the 531 for 1 mag field sounds a lot closer to the truth.
Oh and your new setup is worse then your old one.
 And how exactly do you adapt to potentially getting killed by everybody you kill? -Nero Scuro
If I miss you, it will be because my tracking is a little off. - Grey Area |
DeathWarrior
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Posted - 2006.03.10 15:52:00 -
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Asnar, more contstructive comments would be appriechated rather than no way you can do this or that setup isnt good... 
Any suggestions?
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.03.10 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: DeathWarrior
Asnar, more contstructive comments would be appriechated rather than no way you can do this or that setup isnt good...
Any suggestions?
ALready gave them. Asnar is me as well btw. It isn't good cause a relays is usesless compaired to a RCU and medium nos. PDU is useless compaired to mag field.
And there is no way you can 1000dps that's simple fact no matter what whatever calculation program tells you.
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
Hellraiza666
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Posted - 2006.03.10 16:10:00 -
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dude i have HAC 5, med blaster spec 5, all rapid firing surgical strike etc. 5 and a 5% med hybrid implant, and i cant get 1000 dps, whuich means ur bull****ting.
ANyways, my set up is VERY similar to your first 1, cept for a exp hardner
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DeathWarrior
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Posted - 2006.03.10 16:31:00 -
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Dont have enough cpu asnar to fit RCU + nos
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.03.10 16:50:00 -
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Manyara
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Posted - 2006.03.10 17:00:00 -
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t2 explosive hardener (or faction if you can afford it, one with a 55% bonus) and a t2 energised EM, 78% Em and 59% explosive (with Armour EM compensation 4). This tank is teh pwn. plus you got room for a pair of damage mods...
I'd also carry some standard antimatter with me, just in case you run into a couple of frigs, coz VOID completely scuppers your tracking.
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Grotz
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Posted - 2006.03.10 17:04:00 -
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Get an Ishtar if you have fairly decent drone skills.
DPS isnt everything, the 3 Deimos ive killed since flying my Ishtar will vouch for them.
Deimos = ****. I really don't know what all the fuss about them is!
Get a Mega, cheaper, more insurance pay out etc higher dmg, more versatility, BIGGER tank options and generally BIGGER 
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Kaiu
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Posted - 2006.03.10 17:04:00 -
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Get an Ishtar if you have fairly decent drone skills.
DPS isnt everything, the 3 Deimos ive killed since flying my Ishtar will vouch for them.
Deimos = ****. I really don't know what all the fuss about them is!
Get a Mega, cheaper, more insurance pay out etc higher dmg, more versatility, BIGGER tank options and generally BIGGER
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tomw
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Posted - 2006.03.10 17:16:00 -
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my current setup is something along the lines of
high - 3 ionII's 2, electron II's, 1 dark blood med nos
med - named mwd, db scrambler, db webber
low - med armor rep II, dark blood adaptive nano, dark blood energized adaptive nanno, dark blood reactive plating, dark blood explosive hardener, dark blood pdu.
t2 drones ofc.
tanks like a sob and about 90+ resistance to all. tho it just barely fits "about 1/4 cpu and a few pg left" with hac 4 and advanced weapons 4. still tweeking tho
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2006.03.10 17:24:00 -
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DeathWarrior, if you're going to defend your numbers, it's probably best if you include your entire equation. If you start a thread about a ship's DPS, then several well known Deimos pilots get back to you and say, "Your numbers aren't correct", I think that warrants checking over your sums.
Personally, I would take an Explosive hardener and an Energised Nano II over two of the latter. Your resistances aren't bad elsewhere, but you need to plug the hole in Explosive.
Save The Deimos |
DeathWarrior
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Posted - 2006.03.10 18:20:00 -
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Thanks for the comments guys 
Dash : I wasn't trying to make a thread about my DPS, this thread was about ' Deimos PvP setups ' I did work it out that I went wrong somewhere with my numbers, but its what Quickfit showed.. As I say setup nr 2 dps is ALOT lower, thus my calculations went wrong somewhere.
Kinsy : I tryed that and found my resistances quite nice, I guess I will change that out for an Explosive T2. I have armor compensation Skills V ( I know its not required, but I went for maxing out my gallente skills. ) - I have alot of SP in Drones and have Maxed gunnery skills for blasters.
I was making a gallente specialist and thought I wanted to try out the deimos and it seems thats the way Im going..
Although I would rather the thread stuck on topic, about the setup rather than my DPS.
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Asurix
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Posted - 2006.03.10 20:25:00 -
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atm I'm using
5x ions t2
mwd, web, scramble
MAR II, exp hardener, 2x nano II, mag stab, relay
works fine for me I've lost 2 1 due to lag 1 due to un-updated corpstandings so...=)
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2006.03.10 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: DeathWarrior
Dash : I wasn't trying to make a thread about my DPS, this thread was about ' Deimos PvP setups ' I did work it out that I went wrong somewhere with my numbers, but its what Quickfit showed.. As I say setup nr 2 dps is ALOT lower, thus my calculations went wrong somewhere.
Understood, but remember; the Deimos is a blaster boat so the DPS equation is going to feature heavily. You made a point of listing the different statistics, so it's advisable to make sure they're right. The only real way to test DPS is to fit the guns and check the resulting numbers.
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Beowulf Scheafer
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Posted - 2006.03.10 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: Beowulf Scheafer on 10/03/2006 21:06:13
i usedd to use :
1 med dimishing, 5 electrons II
mwd, web, scramb
1 tII rep, 1 shaodow serp expl., 1 energizes adaptive II, 1 cpr, 2 shadow serp dmgmods.
i must admit that cap was never an issue for me, i always ran out of armor before my cap was gone. i played around with some ions in the first place, but that only increased the problem. even tho i'm a dedicated blasteruser with everything expect the last 2% dmg, i was never really happy with my deimos. it has the highest dmgoutput, but of that high dmg many enemies won't take alot due to range or more hardened armor. in my oppinion the deimos is a barely weak ship as it is atm. i no swapped over to ishtar, and will only use may deimos when beeing supported with ecm anymore.
if u have ecmsupport, a small nos with ions and 3 dmgmods are a good thing, because nothing lasts very long once you are out of harms 
on its own i like the ishtar ways more. my droneskills are weak as hell, i do nearly exactly half the dmg my deimos does, but its dman verstatile. you can nos and tackle while using a 1600mm plate when in group, or you can just nos and jamm while on your own.
you can stick around a while with your deimos, but i would bet you will end up at an ishtar in the end :)
but just my 2 isk...
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.03.10 21:11:00 -
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i prefer electrons / ions so i can also fit a 800mm plate and a med nos.
i also believe (tho im not sure exactly why) electrons > ions.
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Jin Entres
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Posted - 2006.03.10 21:24:00 -
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Here's my plated electron setup.
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Jevnikar
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Posted - 2006.03.21 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: DeathWarrior
Edited by: DeathWarrior on 10/03/2006 13:32:40
DPS From Guns : 853.973 dps
DPS From Drones : 163.125
Total DPS : 1017.098
What you think, any suggestion on what i should change?
Plz be so kind and paste the formula how you came by 1017 DPS. "Damage Per Second"
deimos has dps of 400 if your realy well tooled up and skilled.
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Yarek Balear
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Posted - 2006.03.21 12:09:00 -
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Geez, give it a rest, the OP has already stated (twice I believe) that his calculations on this were flawed after getting some feedback... Try reading the post first.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.03.21 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jevnikar
Originally by: DeathWarrior
Edited by: DeathWarrior on 10/03/2006 13:32:40
DPS From Guns : 853.973 dps
DPS From Drones : 163.125
Total DPS : 1017.098
What you think, any suggestion on what i should change?
Plz be so kind and paste the formula how you came by 1017 DPS. "Damage Per Second"
deimos has dps of 400 if your realy well tooled up and skilled.
It's closer then your dps figure ( you're off by 400, he was off by 220 ) so...
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.03.21 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Entres
Here's my plated electron setup.
Tell me you got a slave set.
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