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Daehkthar Raehm
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Posted - 2003.09.08 21:34:00 -
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Edited by: Ch'ryl on 08/09/2003 13:17:14
I say use your ship for whatever you want. But if you're too much of a wuss to do anything other than sit in 1.0 sec space strip mining so the noobs can't find any then expect to be ridiculed.
I mine in a 0.9 system with my bship  . And actually i do hunt believe it or not. Just not with my battleship.
And about strip mining fields so that newbs cannot find anything to mine... Thats just another bull**** idea someone made up to **** and whine their asses off some more about bship miners.
How many high sec systems are there in EVE? How many belts per high sec system? If your telling me that all those belts are being strip mined before they respawn then your a damn fool.
I mine in a system with 22 belts. There is no way in hell i or the other people in bships i mine with could deplete these fields.
So now i expect another post with some more half-assed thought-up-on-a-whim reasons why all of us in bships should go head to the nearest 0.0 system and farm NPC pirates.
Just keep in mind, a few months ago, mining in a cruiser seemed like a waste of money and these people were ridiculed as well.
Apparantly we're all supposed to be sitting in our ibis's and probe's with our two miner I's mining away.
I wouldn't be surprised if "someone" here goes and whines to CCP about battleship mining in high sec space. They only want newbs in frigs mining in high sec space apparantly.
Another point, large corporations require lots of pyrite/tritanium for their bship productions ect. ect. Do you expect newbs in frigs to meet that large of a demand? No. The thing is, us battleship miners are "needed".
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2003.09.08 21:52:00 -
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Why do you care what people do with thier battleships?
Is a_guy05 mining in his Apoc somehow damaging your gameplay? (And you can drop the "well they are strip mining n00b belts" arguement because I can take you to half a dozen 1.0 and 0.9 systems that have obviously not been mined in months)
If I (or anyone else for that matter) want to use a 90M isk battleship to mine, who are YOU to say I can't? Afterall, it's my isk...
What next? I'm not allowed to hunt 20k pirates in a frigate? I MUST transport my ore in an industrial?
And I suppose that 5 million units of Tritanium to build a battleship just grows on trees right?
Tell you what. When you can supply a large scale battleship construction company with enough tritanium to meet thier quotas on a continuing basis by mining in an Imicus, THEN you can dictate how I mine, and with what ships. Until then, mind your own business.
For the record, I mine in a Thorax. Where I mine is a) none of your business and b) dependand on whatever mineral contracts I'm trying to fill.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Galk
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Posted - 2003.09.08 22:15:00 -
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Now for all the people who think PvP should not be permitted in places throughout Eve, let me guess what some of you pilot???
Every bit you made up since makes perfect sence.
Just another one trying to make the good people of eve play the game your way.
People can do what the hell they want, unless there exploiting, im sure you play the game you wish.
Still there is indeed a morale highground to it, battleships indeed, just what the hell are PC pirates doing flying the latest military hardware.
Or come to think or it, the miners, or the traders..... Makes no sence to me going by your morale highground.
Surely such ships should be in the domain of the military only...
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.08 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 08/09/2003 22:44:11
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Still there is indeed a morale highground to it, battleships indeed, just what the hell are PC pirates doing flying the latest military hardware.
Surely such ships should be in the domain of the military only...
Exactly! That's why CCP should removed all player owned battleships that doesn't belong to MASS(yea, you have to look the meaning up for yourself, otherwise you'll start a flame party about our name:P. But if there were any roleplaying in EVE we'd live up to it).
j/k
Let people do what they want with their ships.
I'll not start the trolling about why you guys don't have battleship 
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Ch'ryl
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Posted - 2003.09.09 13:02:00 -
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Edited by: Ch'ryl on 09/09/2003 13:05:21
*And about strip mining fields so that newbs cannot find anything to mine... Thats just another bull**** idea someone made up to **** and whine their asses off some more about bship miners.*
So how come half the noob sector belts I've been in hardly have anything in there apart from Veld? Try looking for Pyroxeres or Plag and you find tiny little nubs that yield nothing because some BS miner stripped out anything of greater value than Veld.
*So now i expect another post with some more half-assed thought-up-on-a-whim reasons why all of us in bships should go head to the nearest 0.0 system and farm NPC pirates.*
Nah, no point really, you're only prepared to listen to your own opinion and declare anyone elses as half-assed.
Why is it that when someone tells you that there are over a billion stars in the universe, you believe them, but if they tell you there is wet paint somewhere, you have to touch it to make sure? |
Lady Jaxx
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Posted - 2003.09.09 13:20:00 -
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As far as strip-mining nub belts goes, my first experience of Eve two months ago on my first character was not being able to find any asteroid belts in Bourynes because they'd all been strip mined to nothing.
Personally I think it is bad Eve etiquette to mine in the 12 starter systems, they should be left to act as tutorial zones for nubs.
"University of Caille 0wnz 4ll j00 l4m3rz" |
Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.09 13:22:00 -
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I love you Ch'ryl.
I have tried to put my point across but, the relentless atacks have forced me from my own thread. My back is only so broad as to bare the burden of the abuse that is posted.
But screw it.
I don't have a BS but have no envy.
I don't have Millions but don't care.
I don't care how you play the GAME was just asking a question.
I don't even care if you come and kick my ass in game, just be prepared to get it back.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Daehkthar Raehm
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Posted - 2003.09.09 20:10:00 -
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So how come half the noob sector belts I've been in hardly have anything in there apart from Veld? Try looking for Pyroxeres or Plag and you find tiny little nubs that yield nothing because some BS miner stripped out anything of greater value than Veld.
Nah, no point really, you're only prepared to listen to your own opinion and declare anyone elses as half-assed.
Hmmm..... i see alot of ore of all types in newb systems. But, i havent mined in a starter system for a long long time. And besides, newbs don't stay in frigs as long as they did back when i was a newb. Everyones in at least a cruiser after a short ammount of time.
Oh, and about me listening only to my own opinion... I read everyone else's post here and read through their opinions. If i remember correctly, i share the same opinion as several other people here.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.09 20:22:00 -
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So how come half the noob sector belts I've been in hardly have anything in there apart from Veld? Try looking for Pyroxeres or Plag and you find tiny little nubs that yield nothing because some BS miner stripped out anything of greater value than Veld.
Nah, no point really, you're only prepared to listen to your own opinion and declare anyone elses as half-assed.
LMAO. Back in the day when I was a n00b and everyone was still in frigates, people in the n00b system complained about that all the Omber already was mined out.
And why would a battleship strip a belt only for plagi/pyro? The one thing they DO mine there is VELDSPAR to get all the trit for production of more battleships.
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Hematic
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Posted - 2003.09.09 20:41:00 -
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I would like to see industrials be the giant utility ships.
Essentially this:
Make new category mining turret.
Give industrials up to 8 of them.
Make cargo bay/drone bay interchangeable. ie in fittings screen move slider towards cargo and drone bay gets smaller and vice versa.
New attribute of mining laser -cargoholds% the more miners installed on the ship the less it can hold.
So that an industrial ship decked for mining 8 guns + drones would barely have enough room for one scoop of ore.
Makes sense to move industrial activities to the industrial ships. As it stands they are haulers not industrials.
I would also like to see options for secure hauling. Basically a ship that has less cargo's no turret bays but has shields/armor for days and sub systems that take double/triple strength to jam. ie would need double webs, double warp scramble etc...
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.09 20:42:00 -
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Are the people who whine about battleships being used for mining the ones who can't afford a battleship?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.09 21:02:00 -
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Make new category mining turret.
Give industrials up to 8 of them.
And make indys cost 150M each, so that when people start strip mining with them, all the guys who can't affort them can start to whine
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Lola
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Posted - 2003.09.09 22:35:00 -
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Are the people who whine about battleships being used for mining the ones who can't afford a battleship?
Yes.
Once I got an Armageddon mining in my Thorax was no longer logical. If there were different slots for mining lasers I'd use the ship with the most mining laser to mine with. I can't understand how this thread got to be 5 pages long.
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Ch'ryl
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Posted - 2003.09.10 08:50:00 -
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Are the people who whine about battleships being used for mining the ones who can't afford a battleship?
Actually I'm not 'whining' about mining with BS. I have no problem with people mining with BS. But what I can't understand is why they have to mine with BS in the high sec areas. What's wrong with going down to a .5 area and mining with your BS? Don't tell me it's because of the npc pirates because they're a piece of cake in belts at .5. If Ican mine in .5 in a frigate and still look after myself a BS should have no problem.
And no, I have no BS and I don't envy those who do. Maybe I'll want one when I've been playing the game long enough and have all the skills, but at the moment I'm just enjoying playing the game and learning my capabilities.
My original point was, do what you want with your ship, it's your ship and if you want to mine with it then I have no problem with that. But, if you mine with it in 1.0 or .9 space then you leave yourself open to ridicule.
Why is it that when someone tells you that there are over a billion stars in the universe, you believe them, but if they tell you there is wet paint somewhere, you have to touch it to make sure? |
Ch'ryl
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Posted - 2003.09.10 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ch'ryl on 10/09/2003 09:35:05
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Oh, and about me listening only to my own opinion... I read everyone else's post here and read through their opinions. If i remember correctly, i share the same opinion as several other people here.
Yes you do. But you're the one calling my opinion half-assed. I might disagree with your opinion but I am not dismissing it in such a derogatory manner.
And Torath, don't let anyone stop you from voicing your opinion. If we all agreed life would be boring as hell. And if people can't argue a point without becoming abusive then that's their problem. They are the ones who end up looking childish and petty. And at the end of the day, it's just words on a screen
Why is it that when someone tells you that there are over a billion stars in the universe, you believe them, but if they tell you there is wet paint somewhere, you have to touch it to make sure? |
PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.09.10 09:39:00 -
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At last someone who understands where I am coming from. The idea is spot on, still gives versitility yet mean ships are more role orientated.
How about you stfu and let the players decide what role they want their ship to have?
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.10 09:57:00 -
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Are the people who whine about battleships being used for mining the ones who can't afford a battleship?
True I can't afford one, but the reason I can't is because I have too much fun cruising the systems interacting with people and exploring other places. I don't have time to sit for a week mining asteroids trying to keep myself from nodding off through boredom.
It is all through choice that I don't have one, and even if I did I would still whine about them being used for mining.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.10 10:09:00 -
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At last someone who understands where I am coming from. The idea is spot on, still gives versitility yet mean ships are more role orientated.
How about you stfu and let the players decide what role they want their ship to have?
Which part of voicing an opinion did you not understand???
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Daehkthar Raehm
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Posted - 2003.09.10 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ch'ryl on 10/09/2003 09:35:05
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Oh, and about me listening only to my own opinion... I read everyone else's post here and read through their opinions. If i remember correctly, i share the same opinion as several other people here.
Yes you do. But you're the one calling my opinion half-assed. I might disagree with your opinion but I am not dismissing it in such a derogatory manner.
Thats because, now cover your ears, I'll be using a naughty word, it IS a bull**** idea. To me at least.... and as expressed by a few others, most likely to them as well.
Oh, and about mining in a 0.5 system, if someone's production is in a station in a 0.9-1.0 system, why travel out to a 0.5 system and have to haul the minerals back?
Also, why have to go to a 0.5 to mine what you can find ABUNDANTLY in 0.9-1.0 systems. It's all common sense, for those of us blessed with this godly quality.
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.10 12:31:00 -
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Daehkthar Raehm
You bug me, the next time you hear from my sorry ass is when my corp declare war on yours and wipe you from the high sec belts for good!
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Intruders
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Posted - 2003.09.10 13:28:00 -
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Go mine yourself and get a bship too instead of *****ing and whining, every starting from scratch player now with the new minning skills can get a bship in less than 25 days. You must be one lazy bum.
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.10 13:40:00 -
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Go mine yourself and get a bship too instead of *****ing and whining, every starting from scratch player now with the new minning skills can get a bship in less than 25 days. You must be one lazy bum.
Oh yeah, like I want to spend 25 days mining, my god you know how to have fun!!!
And yes I am a bum, a big fat hair ass!!!
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Intruders
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Posted - 2003.09.10 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Intruders on 10/09/2003 13:57:52
Edited by: Intruders on 10/09/2003 13:56:16
If you really want to go anywhere in EVE you need some day to train these skills
Electronics to 5
Engineering to 5
Spaceship Command to 5
Gunnery to 5
Each one takes 9 training days, IF you have everythink in all six learning skills to lvl3, all the above mentioned basic 4 skills x5 makes us 36 whole days, just for the training final lvl5 of all of them, so there have to be sometime that you will finally understand that everythink that worths something HAS TO TAKE SOME TIME in order to be completed in EVE Online.
Or just reconsider and start thinking you might be playing the wrong game.
I rest my case.
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.10 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Intruders on 10/09/2003 13:57:52
Edited by: Intruders on 10/09/2003 13:56:16
If you really want to go anywhere in EVE you need some day to train these skills
Electronics to 5
Engineering to 5
Spaceship Command to 5
Gunnery to 5
Each one takes 9 training days, IF you have everythink in all six learning skills to lvl3, all the above mentioned basic 4 skills x5 makes us 36 whole days, just for the training final lvl5 of all of them, so there have to be sometime that you will finally understand that everythink that worths something HAS TO TAKE SOME TIME in order to be completed in EVE Online.
Or just reconsider and start thinking you might be playing the wrong game.
I rest my case.
But I am bum and don't have the time to be Mining forever!!!
Much rather sit on my ass in my*****pit and give Pirates and fools a pasting.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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illuminati
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Posted - 2003.09.10 15:00:00 -
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Posted this in other thread, might as well put it here:
Torath honey, I was thinking of getting some of the CFS alliance battleships together, lets say we take out a meager 40 strikecraft from our memberbase just for you, fit them all with miner 1, basic co-cpu and basic cargo expanders.
Then we all go to Todaki, Emrayur or something and make da veldspar pfh33r us and get some nasty screenshots, how about it huh?
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Hematic
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Posted - 2003.09.10 20:43:00 -
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Torath, I think it was the wording. People playing devil's advocate just because the original post was liable to rub some the wrong way.
But if put in to a real perspective I think it's a fine idea to create more versatile indys.
BTW: I do own a battleship (armaggedon) one of the better miners, however I still feel having an indy be the miner is a good idea.
Dalmon, 150mil? I don't know who you're buying BS's from but your getting screwed. I would say that two things should limit the indys proliferation, training and cost. Some of the better ones could cost up to 20-40mil I would say and require specialized training like the iteron mk V.
As it stands the armaggedon and apoc are the best solo mining vessels in the game. They have enough low slots to get a respectable amount of cargo room and the most turrets AND have drones.
Anyway, probably be way off as far as a project considering the real biting issues that plague people, but the concept has merit. It adds depth for sure.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.10 20:51:00 -
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I use my battleship to fight, look good, get girls, get it on with girls, pick up beer, and generally annoy people who don't have a battleship yet.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Daehkthar Raehm
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Posted - 2003.09.10 22:17:00 -
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Edited by: Daehkthar Raehm on 10/09/2003 22:25:04
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Daehkthar Raehm
You bug me, the next time you hear from my sorry ass is when my corp declare war on yours and wipe you from the high sec belts for good!
Oh, I bug you do i? Well I'm sorry then. I didn't mean to bother you in any way. (/sarcasm) Threatening me now? Grow up! And I'd like to see you try. Your just a pathetic loser who wants to seem tough by claiming "I'll declare war on you and kill your whole corp! Go me! I'm all powerful!" Pfft. Bring it *****.
Although i'd rather settle this without getting my corp involved, since none of them participate regularly in forum activities. But, it's no matter. You just can't cope with the fact that not enough people agree with your "bships should not be able to mine" ideas.
So please, indulge yourself with mighty words here on the forum and lets see how this plays out in the game. My bet is your 100% all talk.
But then again, you heard that I'm just a pitiful miner..... all i can ever do is mine mine mine..... Yep.....
If i said i was a PvP hunter, you wouldn't have half the balls your trying to "show" now with declaring war.
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Daehkthar Raehm
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Posted - 2003.09.10 22:28:00 -
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ROFLMAO.
I just did an EVE search on you, Torath, It seems you are part of an NPC beginner corp. Have fun trying to "declare war" on me.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.09.10 23:05:00 -
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FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD!!! I take my big ass Battleship "Oliphant" to 1.0 and strip mine EVERYTHING! All the time! The reason being is that it's 1.0. It has no pirates to bug the crap out of me. Constantly swarming and forcing me to deploy a heavy drone... wasting my precious time. Hell I look at it as warp path debris removal. Making it safer for all you n00bs to travel around. And for all you guys that get stuck in 'roid gravity wells... how about that one! I'm doing you guys a service. You ungrateful prats! LOL 
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