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Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:22:00 - [1] Edited by: Shin Ra on 12/03/2006 15:23:00 RKK mining outpost in J-LPX7 MC mining outpost in Y-CWQY Was expecting some sort of forum post. Anyway, why are you guys building mining outposts? Also, plz answer sensibly unlike the previous post.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:23:00 - [2] Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 12/03/2006 15:23:00 RKK mining outpost in J-LPX7 MC mining outpost in Y-CWQY Was expecting some sort of forum post. Anyway, why are you guys building mining outposts? Also, plz answer sensibly unlike the previous post. It's a mining outpost. It's for mining. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Cloned Mark	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:23:00 - [3] to mine? ----------------
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:25:00 - [4] Is it really worth to money. They are only a few jumps from the other stations.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:26:00 - [5] Originally by: Shin Ra Is it really worth to money. They are only a few jumps from the other stations. Yes. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Kozak	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:32:00 - [6] Mining outposts are great for recycling loot. You can put them in systems with many belts and will recieve a big return on investment.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:33:00 - [7] Why do you bother asking? Do you really think we'd bother if there wasn't an advantage? ... and why a forum post, just convo one of us and ask for goodness sake. Eve Blacklight Style
Zarthanon	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 12/03/2006 15:23:00 RKK mining outpost in J-LPX7 MC mining outpost in Y-CWQY Was expecting some sort of forum post. Anyway, why are you guys building mining outposts? Also, plz answer sensibly unlike the previous post. Now now Eddz, you shoudn't be stealing other forum ***'s accounts! Originally by:** ParMizaN i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk Originally by: Buddrow TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
Rafein	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:43:00 - [9] Refinery outposts are most useful Outposts. Everyone gets Market. Labs can be replaced with a Mobile Lab, with BP's stored in outpost. And the Mobile's reduce more time from research Deployable factories are a lot the same. can make ships faster, usually easier to just use a deployalbe factory. The Refinery array, though, is VERY limited, and takes a long time. Coupled with the fact that mining is one of the more active things players do in 0.0 (having a factory doesn;t help if you don't have the minerals) it really just makes sence if your making an Outpost, just make it a refinery.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:50:00 - [10] Originally by: Blacklight Why do you bother asking? Do you really think we'd bother if there wasn't an advantage? ... and why a forum post, just convo one of us and ask for goodness sake. Cause it seemed like a pretty big deal and I thought you guys might have something to say about it. Don't get all grumpy on me old man
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:52:00 - [11] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Blacklight Why do you bother asking? Do you really think we'd bother if there wasn't an advantage? ... and why a forum post, just convo one of us and ask for goodness sake. Cause it seemed like a pretty big deal and I thought you guys might have something to say about it. Don't get all grumpy on me old man I don't get grumpy at you Junior, I just point out when you're being daft Anyway, as you know we're just a stale old carebear alliance with no teeth these days (it says so on the forums, numerous alts told us, so it must be true) so you surely can't be surprised at us putting up refining outposts Eve Blacklight Style
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.03.12 15:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Blacklight Why do you bother asking? Do you really think we'd bother if there wasn't an advantage? ... and why a forum post, just convo one of us and ask for goodness sake. Cause it seemed like a pretty big deal and I thought you guys might have something to say about it. Don't get all grumpy on me old man I don't get grumpy at you Junior, I just point out when you're being daft Anyway, as you know we're just a stale old carebear alliance with no teeth these days (it says so on the forums, numerous alts told us, so it must be true) so you surely can't be surprised at us putting up refining outposts I know your all carebears. Just surprised you are planning to stay in one area for so long.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.03.12 16:02:00 - [13] Random question; With the MC outpost in Bob space does this mean the MC will not be taking contracts against Bob anymore? Or is Bob okay with a Mc base in their own space during wartime? Or will Bob be taking away the outpost incase of war? Oh and no im not an alt ^_^ ------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
thebold	Posted - 2006.03.12 16:05:00 - [14] Shinra, I support BOBs claims. It is a totaly awsome mining system. I made 200Mill there in 5 mins. Congrats on the outpost.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.12 16:18:00 - [15] Originally by: thebold Shinra, I support BOBs claims. It is a totaly awsome mining system. I made 200Mill there in 5 mins. Congrats on the outpost. Cool, that should go towards the absolute owning and two poddings you took on this weekend then. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
thebold	Posted - 2006.03.12 16:27:00 - [16] yea, my t2 fittings come form enemy kills.. i only drive t1 im that poor :/ your not the only people to pod me :) and it is nice to see how ccp still hasnt fixed that lag when you enter your pod you cant control your client but hey i know how chowdown feels now :D ow i crashed the other day on friday night loged back on to get podded :D gg last night :) good times ahead!
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.03.12 16:28:00 - [17] Certainly interesting, so BoB wont be moving for a while then Why did MC put up an outpost though? Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful I Luv Teh Parm!!1 - Imaran
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.03.12 16:29:00 - [18] Originally by: ParMizaN Certainly interesting, so BoB wont be moving for a while then Why did MC put up an outpost though? cause bob are just mc's mining alts
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.12 16:30:00 - [19] Originally by: thebold yea, my t2 fittings come form enemy kills.. i only drive t1 im that poor :/ your not the only people to pod me :) and it is nice to see how ccp still hasnt fixed that lag when you enter your pod you cant control your client but hey i know how chowdown feels now :D ow i crashed the other day on friday night loged back on to get podded :D gg last night :) good times ahead! No, the only thing ahead is the continued owning for your alliance. This is just too easy. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.03.12 16:32:00 - [20] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: ParMizaN Certainly interesting, so BoB wont be moving for a while then Why did MC put up an outpost though? cause bob are just mc's mining alts Oops, forgot Seleene was Blacklight's alt Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful I Luv Teh Parm!!1 - Imaran
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.03.12 16:37:00 - [21] Originally by: thebold ...and it is nice to see how ccp still hasnt fixed that lag when you enter your pod... No, it's nice of ccp to give us interdictors and spheres, u could have had insta-control, both times u were getting podded cuz u were right in the middle of them. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:01:00 - [22] Edited by: Raid on 12/03/2006 17:01:38 Interesting.. MC outpost in PB... i guess MC really is in BOB's back pocket.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:06:00 - [23] Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 12/03/2006 17:01:38 Interesting.. MC outpost in PB... i guess MC really is in BOB's back pocket. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and find out? Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Shibby DoWa	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:07:00 - [24] Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 12/03/2006 17:01:38 Interesting.. MC outpost in PB... i guess MC really is in BOB's back pocket. or maybe BOB is in the MC's back pocket?
Boonaki	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:09:00 - [25] Hymm, I didn't even know we were building an outpost. Why do people outside the corp know stuff before I do? Fear the Ibis of doom.
thebold	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:09:00 - [26] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: thebold ...and it is nice to see how ccp still hasnt fixed that lag when you enter your pod... No, it's nice of ccp to give us interdictors and spheres, u could have had insta-control, both times u were getting podded cuz u were right in the middle of them. excuse me first time we wapred out of your sphere you only got vader caught in it.. we warped back in to you close range and was not in your spehere.. i ctded and loged on and got podded. Second time my crusader had a after burner and AB'ed very far from the bubel and couldent outrun the destroyer since there so fast.. Facts K?
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:12:00 - [27] "Interesting.. MC outpost in PB... i guess MC really is in BOB's back pocket." I guess it means so is/was the ISS then, seeing how they were allowed to operate in BoB space and run their starbases in it... or maybe someone simply had enough business sense to negotiate a contract that'd benefit both sides enough to warrant it. o.O
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:14:00 - [28] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 12/03/2006 17:01:38 Interesting.. MC outpost in PB... i guess MC really is in BOB's back pocket. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and find out? Another alliance has set up an OUTPOST in your claimed space. Clearly you have some sort of agreement there. I dont think we will ever see MC take a contract up against BOB. Am i wrong? tell me why if i am...
ponieus	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:20:00 - [29] Originally by: Raid Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 12/03/2006 17:01:38 Interesting.. MC outpost in PB... i guess MC really is in BOB's back pocket. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and find out? Another alliance has set up an OUTPOST in your claimed space. Clearly you have some sort of agreement there. I dont think we will ever see MC take a contract up against BOB. Am i wrong? tell me why if i am... its pretty obvious m8.. pay the fee and see what happens.....
Chowdown	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:22:00 - [30] Originally by: thebold and it is nice to see how ccp still hasnt fixed that lag when you enter your pod you cant control your client but hey i know how chowdown feels now :D Bastard!
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:25:00 - [31] "I dont think we will ever see MC take a contract up against BOB. Am i wrong? tell me why if i am..." If they do, then it's reasonable to expect cost of the outpost would be included in the contract bill. Which doesn't automatically mean no contract ever, but likely reduces amount of people who could afford it even further... but then it's not like any other alliance wasn't free to offer MC a deal like that, and gain similar advantage.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:26:00 - [32] Originally by: Boonaki Hymm, I didn't even know we were building an outpost. Why do people outside the corp know stuff before I do? because you dont' read our forums or pay attention to what's going on? dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:30:00 - [33] Originally by: ponieus Originally by: Raid Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 12/03/2006 17:01:38 Interesting.. MC outpost in PB... i guess MC really is in BOB's back pocket. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and find out? Another alliance has set up an OUTPOST in your claimed space. Clearly you have some sort of agreement there. I dont think we will ever see MC take a contract up against BOB. Am i wrong? tell me why if i am... its pretty obvious m8.. pay the fee and see what happens..... No doubt they will quote someone a fee for a contract on bob... But to seem impartial they will quote a ridiculously high fee to a point where no one would even want to pay it. If i was MC and i had an outpost in your space, why would i risk it for a contact that would eventually expire? They have a money making outpost that will generate more revenue that any single contract ever could. When i said MC was in BOB's back pocket, thats what i meant.... is what i have said above wrong? Explain if so..
Shibby DoWa	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:31:00 - [34] Edited by: Shibby DoWa on 12/03/2006 17:33:43 ok, lets try a constructive post. The last time MC went carebearing in BoB space, there was a huge out-cry over MC being in BoB's pockets, how they would never take a contract against BoB, etc and what-not. However, this was only a short-stay to get the wallet up, something that just about every merc corp has to do from time to time (KIA were mining in someone else's space for a while to get their capital ships too). Once the carebearing is finished, there would be no need what-so-ever for the merc corp to hang around. Now, if a merc corp creates and builds property, whether it be a POS or an Outpost, they are at the mercy of the alliance who controls that space, and others who wish to claim their space. If hostile entity X decides to try and take the MC's outpost while the MC are at the other side of the galaxy on a contract, who will defend it? If somebody is attacking BoB's space, will the MC intervine (even if on another contract) to defend their outpost or the space of their hosts? If someone comes up with enough ISK to hire the MC against BoB, will the outpost be fair game to take? What will happen after the contract? It would be good to get both an official BoB and MC statement on this (especially the MC) about how the above situations and more will be resolved. While the ISS maybe allowed into another alliance's territory to get rich, this is because their neutrality is different to that of the MC's. ISS's goals are to get rich and be friends with everyone. The MC's is to kill whoever pays them lots of ISK wants them to kill, and never to turn down a contract due to "friendly relations" with a certain alliance. People will be less willing to hire the MC if they will have to constantly worry about them backing out of a contract to defend their home systems.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:33:00 - [35] Originally by: Raid Am i wrong? tell me why if i am... Ask MC exactly how many, SERIOUS, with CASH and with a PLAN, offers they had for contracts they had on BoB. Once you've had an answer, ask why any forward thinking group could possibly want an outpost - then try and work out why we're the most obvious people to speak to about putting up an outpost. It's all rather obvious, Raid, if you think about it. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:33:00 - [36] Originally by: j0sephine "I dont think we will ever see MC take a contract up against BOB. Am i wrong? tell me why if i am..." If they do, then it's reasonable to expect cost of the outpost would be included in the contract bill. Which doesn't automatically mean no contract ever, but likely reduces amount of people who could afford it even further... but then it's not like any other alliance wasn't free to offer MC a deal like that, and gain similar advantage. exactly, but MC would quote the cost of the outpost PLUS any revenue they might lose in the future... a total of countless billions. So no, MC will never take a contact against BOB because the price is simply too high. The advantages gained by MC would never justify such a bill...
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:35:00 - [37] Edited by: Dianabolic on 12/03/2006 17:36:25 Originally by: Raid So no, MC will never take a contact against BOB because the price is simply too high. Incorrect, the bill for using mc against us is now something that THE CLIENT might never pay. So again, if you wanna find out - ask mc how much they want, cough it up and let's see the result, shall we? Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Shibby DoWa	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:35:00 - [38] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid Am i wrong? tell me why if i am... Ask MC exactly how many, SERIOUS, with CASH and with a PLAN, offers they had for contracts they had on BoB. Once you've had an answer, ask why any forward thinking group could possibly want an outpost - then try and work out why we're the most obvious people to speak to about putting up an outpost. It's all rather obvious, Raid, if you think about it. iirc, it was only twice, and one was from blacklight
bobinbooob	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:36:00 - [39] Originally by: Boonaki Hymm, I didn't even know we were building an outpost. Why do people outside the corp know stuff before I do? try playing and not playing forums gg, way to look stupid
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:40:00 - [40] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid Am i wrong? tell me why if i am... Ask MC exactly how many, SERIOUS, with CASH and with a PLAN, offers they had for contracts they had on BoB. Once you've had an answer, ask why any forward thinking group could possibly want an outpost - then try and work out why we're the most obvious people to speak to about putting up an outpost. It's all rather obvious, Raid, if you think about it. How about instead of asking me a bunch of questions you answer one of mine? If its so obvious then lay your wisdom on me...
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:42:00 - [41] Edited by: Dianabolic on 12/03/2006 17:42:40 Originally by: Raid Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid Am i wrong? tell me why if i am... Ask MC exactly how many, SERIOUS, with CASH and with a PLAN, offers they had for contracts they had on BoB. Once you've had an answer, ask why any forward thinking group could possibly want an outpost - then try and work out why we're the most obvious people to speak to about putting up an outpost. It's all rather obvious, Raid, if you think about it. How about instead of asking me a bunch of questions you answer one of mine? If its so obvious then lay your wisdom on me... Any answer given is far less comprehended than an answer found. edit: the fact that the answer to this has been given, on many occassions, by the ceos of both groups, just further proves the point. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:45:00 - [42] Edited by: Raid on 12/03/2006 17:45:31 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid Am i wrong? tell me why if i am... Ask MC exactly how many, SERIOUS, with CASH and with a PLAN, offers they had for contracts they had on BoB. Once you've had an answer, ask why any forward thinking group could possibly want an outpost - then try and work out why we're the most obvious people to speak to about putting up an outpost. It's all rather obvious, Raid, if you think about it. How about instead of asking me a bunch of questions you answer one of mine? If its so obvious then lay your wisdom on me... Any answer given is far less comprehended than an answer found. just answer the question is its so obvious... I took the time to explain to you why i think MC would never take a contract against bob. If you believe im wrong then please tell me why. If you want to continue to dance around and not respond then dont bother replying again and let someone in your alliance who can respond do so.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:48:00 - [43] Hi Raid, I would like to welcome you to the BoB fanboi club. Your membership badge will be in the post and sent out to you soon. Please make sure that you follow every single BoB forum post and care alot about what we are doing. Congrats. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Shibby DoWa	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:50:00 - [44] Originally by: DB Preacher Hi Raid, I would like to welcome you to the BoB fanboi club. Your membership badge will be in the post and sent out to you soon. Please make sure that you follow every single BoB forum post and care alot about what we are doing. Congrats. dbp actually by the looks of it, he's more interesting in what the MC will do rather than BOB. if the MC had set up shop with another 0.0 aliance the questions would still stand.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:51:00 - [45] Originally by: Shibby DoWa Originally by: DB Preacher Hi Raid, I would like to welcome you to the BoB fanboi club. Your membership badge will be in the post and sent out to you soon. Please make sure that you follow every single BoB forum post and care alot about what we are doing. Congrats. dbp actually by the looks of it, he's more interesting in what the MC will do rather than BOB. if the MC had set up shop with another 0.0 aliance the questions would still stand. Actually, he's in every BoB post going. His membership has been approved. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:53:00 - [46] Edited by: Raid on 12/03/2006 17:53:22 Originally by: DB Preacher Hi Raid, I would like to welcome you to the BoB fanboi club. Your membership badge will be in the post and sent out to you soon. Please make sure that you follow every single BoB forum post and care alot about what we are doing. Congrats. dbp Actually im more concerned about what MC is doing. Im not asking why BOB has let MC into their territory thats fairly obvious. Question is, why has MC decided to build an OUTPOST (not a pos or something else that can be taken down) in someone elses territory. Such an action does effect the prices they charge for their contracts and does effect who they are contracted against. I cant compete with the RKK forum *****s so call me whatever you like. The questions however, will not be going away. Either answer them or just admit you now own MC. edit: shibby beat me to it... thanks for actually reading my posts shibby.
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:55:00 - [47] Edited by: Draximus Cane on 12/03/2006 17:55:47 Hi Mum -------------------------------------------------
Shibby DoWa	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:56:00 - [48] Edited by: Shibby DoWa on 12/03/2006 17:56:17 Originally by: Draximus Cane Official MC response None of your bussiness way to **** off potential customers. besides, I thought only the CEOs could give official responses? edit: edting your post won't save you from my ninja whoring skills :)
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:57:00 - [49] Originally by: Shibby DoWa Edited by: Shibby DoWa on 12/03/2006 17:56:17 Originally by: Draximus Cane Official MC response None of your bussiness way to **** off potential customers. besides, I thought only the CEOs could give official responses? edit: edting your post won't save you from my ninja whoring skills :) We dont take contracts from alts -------------------------------------------------
Shibby DoWa	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:01:00 - [50] Originally by: Draximus Cane Originally by: Shibby DoWa Edited by: Shibby DoWa on 12/03/2006 17:56:17 Originally by: Draximus Cane Official MC response None of your bussiness way to **** off potential customers. besides, I thought only the CEOs could give official responses? edit: edting your post won't save you from my ninja whoring skills :) We dont take contracts from alts keep digging
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:03:00 - [51] mc = bob puppy "We brake for nobody"
Velsharoon	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:06:00 - [52] maybe they want somewere to park their titan
Shibby DoWa	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:09:00 - [53] Originally by: Velsharoon maybe they want somewere to park their titan whether that was a serious question or not, you can't part a titan at an outpost, only POS. of course, the safest place for a titan is on a logged-off alt account :)
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:10:00 - [54] Originally by: Raid just answer the question is its so obvious... I took the time to explain to you why i think MC would never take a contract against bob. If you believe im wrong then please tell me why. You ARE wrong, Raid. GO TO MC AND ASK THEM HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO HAVE A CONTRACT ON US! When they say "50 billion" (or whatever the fee may be) PAY IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! The point being, my poor misguided and obviously comprehension impaired fanboi, it isn't MC that won't take a contract, it is the peole of EVE that won't pay what it would cost to have a contract taken on us. There's a rather massive, wide, huge difference, to it being too expensive, and not willing to even consider it. Does having this outpost in period basis make that fee even greater? Yes, it probably does. Wishing you had thought of it first? Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:20:00 - [55] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid just answer the question is its so obvious... I took the time to explain to you why i think MC would never take a contract against bob. If you believe im wrong then please tell me why. You ARE wrong, Raid. GO TO MC AND ASK THEM HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO HAVE A CONTRACT ON US! When they say "50 billion" (or whatever the fee may be) PAY IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! The point being, my poor misguided and obviously comprehension impaired fanboi, it isn't MC that won't take a contract, it is the peole of EVE that won't pay what it would cost to have a contract taken on us. There's a rather massive, wide, huge difference, to it being too expensive, and not willing to even consider it. Does having this outpost in period basis make that fee even greater? Yes, it probably does. Wishing you had thought of it first? My point was the fee would exceed any benefit MC would give someone to be contracted against BOB. THAT is why MC will never be hired against BOB... yes the fee will be steep and its up to the client to pay it HOWEVER, this relationship was designed so that no one would ever be able to pay it thus bob will never be a contract MC will take. Outpost in bob spave + MC new fee against BOB = MC in back pocket of BOB.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:25:00 - [56] Originally by: Raid Outpost in bob spave + MC new fee against BOB = MC in back pocket of BOB. I'll be sure to include that in the Fanboi Newsletter so that all our fanbois know the situation for future forum trolling. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Shibby DoWa	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:25:00 - [57] Originally by: Raid Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid just answer the question is its so obvious... I took the time to explain to you why i think MC would never take a contract against bob. If you believe im wrong then please tell me why. You ARE wrong, Raid. GO TO MC AND ASK THEM HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO HAVE A CONTRACT ON US! When they say "50 billion" (or whatever the fee may be) PAY IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! The point being, my poor misguided and obviously comprehension impaired fanboi, it isn't MC that won't take a contract, it is the peole of EVE that won't pay what it would cost to have a contract taken on us. There's a rather massive, wide, huge difference, to it being too expensive, and not willing to even consider it. Does having this outpost in period basis make that fee even greater? Yes, it probably does. Wishing you had thought of it first? My point was the fee would exceed any benefit MC would give someone to be contracted against BOB. THAT is why MC will never be hired against BOB... yes the fee will be steep and its up to the client to pay it HOWEVER, this relationship was designed so that no one would ever be able to pay it thus bob will never be a contract MC will take. Outpost in bob spave + MC new fee against BOB = MC in back pocket of BOB. and if CC held space that the MC could build an outpost in, exactly the same kind of deal could have been struck. Being honest, the issue here isn't that the MC built an outpost in 0.0, it's who's 0.0 space they built it on. anyone who attempts to take bob's space will now have both bob AND the mc after them, which isn't really a very inviting prospect. still, an official announcement from the MC would help calm things down.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:28:00 - [58] But no, Raid, your point was that MC wouldn't take a contract against BoB - I've proved that it isn't the MC that are the problem, it is the EVE community (most notably our enemies) who don't have the plan, nor the cash, to make it worth their while. FA failed to pay for it when we took first Delve, then Fountain. Imperium failed to pay for it when we kicked them out of Outer Ring. If that is how you define somenoe who is in the "bob back pocket" then great, the MC can keep my pockets warm allllll night long. But right now you look like a bitter little fanbois, who is jealous of the empires that can be built, all that is required is a little bit of effort. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Cummilla	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:33:00 - [59] Edited by: Cummilla on 12/03/2006 18:38:51 Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Blacklight Why do you bother asking? Do you really think we'd bother if there wasn't an advantage? ... and why a forum post, just convo one of us and ask for goodness sake. Cause it seemed like a pretty big deal and I thought you guys might have something to say about it. Don't get all grumpy on me old man IS Blacklight old IRL? heh
Durvaul	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:38:00 - [60] Originally by: Raid Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid just answer the question is its so obvious... I took the time to explain to you why i think MC would never take a contract against bob. If you believe im wrong then please tell me You ARE wrong, Raid. GO TO MC AND ASK THEM HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO HAVE A CONTRACT ON US! why. When they say "50 billion" (or whatever the fee may be) PAY IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! The point being, my poor misguided and obviously comprehension impaired fanboi, it isn't MC that won't take a contract, it is the peole of EVE that won't pay what it would cost to have a contract taken on us. There's a rather massive, wide, huge difference, to it being too expensive, and not willing to even consider it. Does having this outpost in period basis make that fee even greater? Yes, it probably does. Wishing you had thought of it first? My point was the fee would exceed any benefit MC would give someone to be contracted against BOB. THAT is why MC will never be hired against BOB... yes the fee will be steep and its up to the client to pay it HOWEVER, this relationship was designed so that no one would ever be able to pay it thus bob will never be a contract MC will take. Outpost in bob spave + MC new fee against BOB = MC in back pocket of BOB. Do u not understand english or are u just ten years old? MC are nap with bob, they have an outpost up to make money. Why would they fight bob? BOB would take there outpost. So no i imagine they wouldnt takee a contract as it would make financial sucucide. Since u still dont seem to get it. BOB WONT FIGHT MC, MC WONT FIGHT BOB. I CANT MAKE THIS ANY CLEARER EMF 4TW
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:38:00 - [61] Edited by: j0sephine on 12/03/2006 18:38:17 "omg lousy quote stealer! " I suck at typing; in the time it takes me to make one post 5 new pop up and cover most of what am trying to say ;/ (well eiher that or "nice quote, i took it. yarrr \o/"
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:40:00 - [62] Originally by: Cummilla IS Blacklight old IRL? heh Old enough to be a lot wiser than Junior, which I will remind him of again in London in April as I hold his head down the loo and flush it for a laugh Eve Blacklight Style
slip66	Posted - 2006.03.12 18:46:00 - [63] Edited by: slip66 on 12/03/2006 18:47:27 Raid, its not that hard pay the fee and well see what MC does. Untill then it's a mute point and nothing but speculation. They didnt have the outpost before and no one hired them :/ Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Trooper B99	Posted - 2006.03.12 19:30:00 - [64] If the MC's current client(s) or serious client(s) to be are concerned about anything to do with our services or contracts they are of course free to contact us privately and have things clarified and dealt with in a one to one situation as is our normal SOP. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Shibby DoWa	Posted - 2006.03.12 19:45:00 - [65] Originally by: Trooper B99 If the MC's current client(s) or serious client(s) to be are concerned about anything to do with our services or contracts they are of course free to contact us privately and have things clarified and dealt with in a one to one situation as is our normal SOP. not quite what I was looking for, but it's a start :)
Masta Killa	Posted - 2006.03.12 19:54:00 - [66] Shin started a flamethread --------------------------------------
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.12 19:58:00 - [67] Originally by: Durvaul Originally by: Raid Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid just answer the question is its so obvious... I took the time to explain to you why i think MC would never take a contract against bob. If you believe im wrong then please tell me You ARE wrong, Raid. GO TO MC AND ASK THEM HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO HAVE A CONTRACT ON US! why. When they say "50 billion" (or whatever the fee may be) PAY IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! The point being, my poor misguided and obviously comprehension impaired fanboi, it isn't MC that won't take a contract, it is the peole of EVE that won't pay what it would cost to have a contract taken on us. There's a rather massive, wide, huge difference, to it being too expensive, and not willing to even consider it. Does having this outpost in period basis make that fee even greater? Yes, it probably does. Wishing you had thought of it first? My point was the fee would exceed any benefit MC would give someone to be contracted against BOB. THAT is why MC will never be hired against BOB... yes the fee will be steep and its up to the client to pay it HOWEVER, this relationship was designed so that no one would ever be able to pay it thus bob will never be a contract MC will take. Outpost in bob spave + MC new fee against BOB = MC in back pocket of BOB. Do u not understand english or are u just ten years old? MC are nap with bob, they have an outpost up to make money. Why would they fight bob? BOB would take there outpost. So no i imagine they wouldnt takee a contract as it would make financial sucucide. Since u still dont seem to get it. BOB WONT FIGHT MC, MC WONT FIGHT BOB. I CANT MAKE THIS ANY CLEARER Um if you actually read what i wrote.. thats exactly what i've been saying. MC wont take a contract up aginsst bob and theres some disagreement as to why that is. Dianabolic sees is as no one has a plan or the money to pay MC... i see it being more like MC's fee for BOB has always been just high enough that no one can really afford it (or would ever want to pay MC that much to do it). The end result is the same, and this outpost only solidifies that such a contract will never happen.
Oni 1	Posted - 2006.03.12 20:05:00 - [68] Point is MC is not neutral and merchs are supposed to be neutral. They have taken an outpost in BOB space and they lose potential customers that are not BOB friendly or against BOB+BOB friendly targets. Fair enough merchs are in it for the isk after all. Tryin to say that a contract against BoB would be "Lots of isk" + "The cost of an outpost" is rediculous and you underestimate the average readers inteligence just by saying so and thats y MC havent made an announcement about it. I expect to see a lot of BoB-hostile entities beeing war dec'd by MC in the future and we already know the price on those "contracts". Bottomline BOB n MC have mutual intrests from now on, so BOB will be an "exception" as a war target. Maybe they will have a war funded by some unknown person for 1 week to prove otherwise, but its obvious as many ppl said, points at dianabolic ;)
Gwyntar	Posted - 2006.03.12 20:06:00 - [69] Its pretty obvious why MC built an outpost. Eve seems to be going towards bigger and bigger capital ships, so having 0.0 refining and production facilities is super useful in order to be able to produce these things. They couldnt build an outpost in "unclaimed" space because it mainly has crap roids and moons, is generally close to empire and so hard to secure, and what happens if the MC are on contract and someone else moves a fleet in to take their space? It's pretty obvious why they chose bob. Noone seemed to be willing to pay what it would take to make them fight bob anyway, and bob's space is amongst the most secure in eve. Also they already have friendly relations. It's less obvious what the problem is. And that problem is that BoB have a tendency to get involved in fights beyond their borders. (Unless they suddenly went all carebear on us). What happens if MC are in a long term alliance war contract, with their full force, at rates of say 2bn a week (I really dont know what MC rates are), and suddenly the situation changes and BoB comes in on the other side? MCs forces are all committed on the contract and BoB attack their outpost. (And I'm not accusing BoB of being dishonourable here - it's war right?). It just seems like a messy situation... Or hey maybe BoB and MC are bored (I havent heard of any big MC contracts lately), and they're just setting up for a good old fashioned war down there :)
Gerome Doutrande	Posted - 2006.03.12 20:06:00 - [70] Originally by: Trooper B99 If the MC's current client(s) or serious client(s) to be are concerned about anything to do with our services or contracts they are of course free to contact us privately and have things clarified and dealt with in a one to one situation as is our normal SOP. So there will be no official MC statement regarding the outpost? That'd be a bit odd, seeing as you don't usually shy away from releasing news about considerable achievements (we'll agree that PR is important for corporations in the mercenary business).
thebold	Posted - 2006.03.12 20:09:00 - [71] BOB I wish to make a complaint. /me slams fist on table where is my forum fanboi badge?! i thought i was #1, you left me for raid? I... iii.. wa waaaahaha :'(
Alberta	Posted - 2006.03.12 21:47:00 - [72] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Cummilla IS Blacklight old IRL? heh Old enough to be a lot wiser than Junior, which I will remind him of again in London in April as I hold his head down the loo and flush it for a laugh Finally! A plausible explanation for his hairstyle in the photo's from the fanfest. My Thoughts on Game Balance
dabster	Posted - 2006.03.12 21:58:00 - [73] Originally by: Durvaul Originally by: Raid Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid just answer the question is its so obvious... I took the time to explain to you why i think MC would never take a contract against bob. If you believe im wrong then please tell me You ARE wrong, Raid. GO TO MC AND ASK THEM HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO HAVE A CONTRACT ON US! why. When they say "50 billion" (or whatever the fee may be) PAY IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! The point being, my poor misguided and obviously comprehension impaired fanboi, it isn't MC that won't take a contract, it is the peole of EVE that won't pay what it would cost to have a contract taken on us. There's a rather massive, wide, huge difference, to it being too expensive, and not willing to even consider it. Does having this outpost in period basis make that fee even greater? Yes, it probably does. Wishing you had thought of it first? My point was the fee would exceed any benefit MC would give someone to be contracted against BOB. THAT is why MC will never be hired against BOB... yes the fee will be steep and its up to the client to pay it HOWEVER, this relationship was designed so that no one would ever be able to pay it thus bob will never be a contract MC will take. Outpost in bob spave + MC new fee against BOB = MC in back pocket of BOB. Do u not understand english or are u just ten years old? MC are nap with bob, they have an outpost up to make money. Why would they fight bob? BOB would take there outpost. So no i imagine they wouldnt takee a contract as it would make financial sucucide. Since u still dont seem to get it. BOB WONT FIGHT MC, MC WONT FIGHT BOB. I CANT MAKE THIS ANY CLEARER dunno who you are but.. they have an outpost up to make money. I hope you're the only one involved who thinks this is the case. Outposts arent to make isk, they are e-peens and to make logistics easier for people with too much isk lying around. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
slip66	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:01:00 - [74] Originally by: thebold BOB I wish to make a complaint. /me slams fist on table where is my forum fanboi badge?! i thought i was #1, you left me for raid? I... iii.. wa waaaahaha :'( lol :) Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:21:00 - [75] /me pokes his nose into thread. Hello My Latest Vid (16/02/06)
David Corbett	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:32:00 - [76] Edited by: David Corbett on 12/03/2006 22:33:40 So why does this all matter? There are a lot of outposts out there now. They're really not that expensive when you take a look at it and put it all together, especially for a large alliance like ASCN or BoB. Heck, small alliances and assorted industrial conglomorations have put them in space, too. Actually, by now I'd expect one of the old RA dudes to come in and say that he could pay for an outpost from his own wallet. MC and BoB have a good relationship. MC is famous for their professionalism, so I'm sure they'd still take that contract. But watch out for gank fleets hiding behind gates :P
Weco	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:49:00 - [77] Quote: why are you guys building mining outposts? The million dollar question! <Why are MC building a mining outpost?> For: A:Mining <> B:Moaning C:Whining <> D:Flaming Hmm, gonna need to phone a friend on this one... ____________________________________________ My sig?
Kane Jacobs	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:59:00 - [78] \m/ O_o \m/ _______________________________________________
LuckyPierre	Posted - 2006.03.12 23:04:00 - [79] Originally by: Gerome Doutrande Originally by: Trooper B99 If the MC's current client(s) or serious client(s) to be are concerned about anything to do with our services or contracts they are of course free to contact us privately and have things clarified and dealt with in a one to one situation as is our normal SOP. So there will be no official MC statement regarding the outpost? That'd be a bit odd, seeing as you don't usually shy away from releasing news about considerable achievements (we'll agree that PR is important for corporations in the mercenary business). I approve this question, why hasn't it been answered yet?
Mika Doi	Posted - 2006.03.12 23:21:00 - [80] Edited by: Mika Doi on 12/03/2006 23:24:27 Here's the deal... Someone stole my cookies and took them to period basis figuring I wouldn't follow them 50+ Jumps down there. They were wrong! I went down there, snatched them cookies up and ate them all. Knowing that my need for cookies was great I needed a nice place to get an oven to bake more cookies. I'm not going to go back to empire as it's just too far and while empire cookies are great why go there when I can just bake them here. Since BoB was already around they offered me a chance to use their store to build my oven in. I said "Really? Aw shucks mister! Thanks!" So I built me a big ass oven to bake all the friggin cookies I desire. Now if the cookie theif had went to Venal or Stain, well then I would've chased them there, snatched my cookies back ate them and built an oven for more cookies. But no! They did not. That's why I am baking cookies in Period Basis. I think Band of Bakers are the only confectioner around that would allow me to build an oven in the back of their store. The other bakeries around the neighborhood are too cutthroat or mean to let a little defenseless gal with a sweet tooth and a penchant for snickerdoodles to build in oven in their stores anyway. Lucky me, now I get all the damned kladdkaka and tea cookies I could desire!
Budvar50	Posted - 2006.03.12 23:45:00 - [81] Quote: Here's the deal... Someone stole my cookies and took them to period basis figuring I wouldn't follow them 50+ Jumps down there. They were wrong! I went down there, snatched them cookies up and ate them all. Knowing that my need for cookies was great I needed a nice place to get an oven to bake more cookies. I'm not going to go back to empire as it's just too far and while empire cookies are great why go there when I can just bake them here. Since BoB was already around they offered me a chance to use their store to build my oven in. I said "Really? Aw shucks mister! Thanks!" So I built me a big ass oven to bake all the friggin cookies I desire. Now if the cookie theif had went to Venal or Stain, well then I would've chased them there, snatched my cookies back ate them and built an oven for more cookies. But no! They did not. That's why I am baking cookies in Period Basis. I think Band of Bakers are the only confectioner around that would allow me to build an oven in the back of their store. The other bakeries around the neighborhood are too cutthroat or mean to let a little defenseless gal with a sweet tooth and a penchant for snickerdoodles to build in oven in their stores anyway. Lucky me, now I get all the damned kladdkaka and tea cookies I could desire! lol :D
Ehxo	Posted - 2006.03.12 23:46:00 - [82] Originally by: Mika Doi Edited by: Mika Doi on 12/03/2006 23:24:27 Here's the deal... Someone stole my cookies and took them to period basis figuring I wouldn't follow them 50+ Jumps down there. They were wrong! I went down there, snatched them cookies up and ate them all. Knowing that my need for cookies was great I needed a nice place to get an oven to bake more cookies. I'm not going to go back to empire as it's just too far and while empire cookies are great why go there when I can just bake them here. Since BoB was already around they offered me a chance to use their store to build my oven in. I said "Really? Aw shucks mister! Thanks!" So I built me a big ass oven to bake all the friggin cookies I desire. Now if the cookie theif had went to Venal or Stain, well then I would've chased them there, snatched my cookies back ate them and built an oven for more cookies. But no! They did not. That's why I am baking cookies in Period Basis. I think Band of Bakers are the only confectioner around that would allow me to build an oven in the back of their store. The other bakeries around the neighborhood are too cutthroat or mean to let a little defenseless gal with a sweet tooth and a penchant for snickerdoodles to build in oven in their stores anyway. Lucky me, now I get all the damned kladdkaka and tea cookies I could desire! My stomach hurts.. -
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2006.03.12 23:51:00 - [83] Originally by: DB Preacher Hi Raid, I would like to welcome you to the BoB fanboi club. Your membership badge will be in the post and sent out to you soon. Please make sure that you follow every single BoB forum post and care alot about what we are doing. Congrats. dbp Is he gonna get free mugs and t-shirts ? Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
Redblade	Posted - 2006.03.12 23:51:00 - [84] Originally by: Mika Doi Edited by: Mika Doi on 12/03/2006 23:24:27 Here's the deal... Someone stole my cookies and took them to period basis figuring I wouldn't follow them 50+ Jumps down there. They were wrong! I went down there, snatched them cookies up and ate them all. Knowing that my need for cookies was great I needed a nice place to get an oven to bake more cookies. I'm not going to go back to empire as it's just too far and while empire cookies are great why go there when I can just bake them here. Since BoB was already around they offered me a chance to use their store to build my oven in. I said "Really? Aw shucks mister! Thanks!" So I built me a big ass oven to bake all the friggin cookies I desire. Now if the cookie theif had went to Venal or Stain, well then I would've chased them there, snatched my cookies back ate them and built an oven for more cookies. But no! They did not. That's why I am baking cookies in Period Basis. I think Band of Bakers are the only confectioner around that would allow me to build an oven in the back of their store. The other bakeries around the neighborhood are too cutthroat or mean to let a little defenseless gal with a sweet tooth and a penchant for snickerdoodles to build in oven in their stores anyway. Lucky me, now I get all the damned kladdkaka and tea cookies I could desire! Awsome U will have to share some of that kladdkaka tho, i'll bring the cream
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:00:00 - [85] Originally by: thebold BOB I wish to make a complaint. /me slams fist on table where is my forum fanboi badge?! i thought i was #1, you left me for raid? I... iii.. wa waaaahaha :'( After consulting the RKK database the decision has been made to DENY your application. The complete and absolute rubbish you spout has made you ineligable for membership. Please try again once you have learnt how not to lie in every post you write. Thanks for your continued wannabee status. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Ripp Tyde	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:04:00 - [86] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: thebold BOB I wish to make a complaint. /me slams fist on table where is my forum fanboi badge?! i thought i was #1, you left me for raid? I... iii.. wa waaaahaha :'( After consulting the RKK database the decision has been made to DENY your application. The complete and absolute rubbish you spout has made you ineligable for membership. Please try again once you have learnt how not to lie in every post you write. Thanks for your continued wannabee status. dbp Do i atleast get an e for effot? or an honorary junior fan boi badge? Ripp Tyde DingleBerry Bear
fisty	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:13:00 - [87] lol at all the people arguing why and who and what and when... nicely done MC for the outpost and congrats to the diplomats of both sides BoB and MC :D ciao
Therem Harth	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:24:00 - [88] Originally by: Raid Um if you actually read what i wrote.. thats exactly what i've been saying. MC wont take a contract up aginsst bob and theres some disagreement as to why that is. Dianabolic sees is as no one has a plan or the money to pay MC... i see it being more like MC's fee for BOB has always been just high enough that no one can really afford it (or would ever want to pay MC that much to do it). The end result is the same, and this outpost only solidifies that such a contract will never happen. I patiently read all the posts of yours in this thread, and all of them have only one thing in common - you somehow assume that MC is in the business just for kicks. Sorry to break the news for you, but they are in it for money. Helpful link. Consequently, irrespective of any outpost existence, MC bills for engaging BOB would be higher than average, simply because they rely on intelligence and reconaissance data to estimate potential adversaries. I hope this is comprehensible enough without having an accounting background of dbp Perhaps you would better understand the issue, if your guys would stop humping the Doril/Sendaya gate and trying to demand "something substantial and meaningful to the region" from 15-man newbie corps who had actually taken the trouble to make a proper diplomatic approach to request neutrality for passthrough corridor usage. But I guess that would require some business sense, if not actually accounting or diplomacy skills -- This is my personal opinion and doesn't represent DAB or RAZOR alliance in any respect
gizli	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:53:00 - [89] ive been informed that a little n00b in frick paid for it, personally, he told me... On msn, so.... n00b in frick = seleene's alt = blacklights mother? getting kinda confused here
gizli	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:55:00 - [90] Edited by: gizli on 13/03/2006 00:58:18 and just this minute i was told this so called n00b was a chav! Edit: This information might not be true, a paranoid biologist told me
Rukaz	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:04:00 - [91] THERE ARE NO CHAVS IN FRICK Rukaz Frick Information Minister
gizli	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:09:00 - [92] Originally by: Rukaz THERE ARE NO CHAVS IN FRICK Rukaz Frick Information Minister
Velsharoon	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:11:00 - [93] Eyebrow is a chav
CamMan	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:12:00 - [94] Originally by: Raid Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Raid just answer the question is its so obvious... I took the time to explain to you why i think MC would never take a contract against bob. If you believe im wrong then please tell me why. You ARE wrong, Raid. GO TO MC AND ASK THEM HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO HAVE A CONTRACT ON US! When they say "50 billion" (or whatever the fee may be) PAY IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! The point being, my poor misguided and obviously comprehension impaired fanboi, it isn't MC that won't take a contract, it is the peole of EVE that won't pay what it would cost to have a contract taken on us. There's a rather massive, wide, huge difference, to it being too expensive, and not willing to even consider it. Does having this outpost in period basis make that fee even greater? Yes, it probably does. Wishing you had thought of it first? My point was the fee would exceed any benefit MC would give someone to be contracted against BOB. THAT is why MC will never be hired against BOB... yes the fee will be steep and its up to the client to pay it HOWEVER, this relationship was designed so that no one would ever be able to pay it thus bob will never be a contract MC will take. Outpost in bob spave + MC new fee against BOB = MC in back pocket of BOB. RAID ..... tsch tsch tsch. people have had the opportunity to hire MC against BoB for a long time and no one has taken it up. So if MC wants to put an outpost up somewhere then where would be the most logical place to put it up that would not interfer with "likely" future conttracts, and where space is pretty safe? put yourself in the position of MC and ask yourself what is best in their terms? I say for a nomadic mercenary corp like MC who are good friends with BoB who want an outpost then the answer is fairly obvious. If someone who has lots of iskies want to hire MC, then they could make a deal. ie. the hiring corp might let them have an outpost in their space as part of payment etc etc. There are ways around everything, just some people arent smart enough to think of those ways themselves. That being said, I personally would love to fight MC, because they are great guys and i respect them alot, and they are very very good at what they do. What else could you ask for in a war? So if some alliance came up with xx bill isk, then it would happen and BoB respect that. Originally by: Bender Interesting, no the other one ... tedious
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:50:00 - [95] Originally by: CamMan So if some alliance came up with xx bill isk People of course have had the oportunity to hire MC, but somehow i think the bill would be outragiously high. Is an MC contract against BOB worth XXbil? IMO.. no way... Hence the reason no one has paied such a price to have them shoot at BOB. With the outpost now there XX bil has turned into XXbil times 2..
aeti	Posted - 2006.03.13 02:02:00 - [96] Originally by: Velsharoon Eyebrow is a chav
Aloysius Knight	Posted - 2006.03.13 05:26:00 - [97] Originally by: Mika Doi Edited by: Mika Doi on 12/03/2006 23:24:27 Here's the deal... Someone stole my cookies and took them to period basis figuring I wouldn't follow them 50+ Jumps down there. They were wrong! I went down there, snatched them cookies up and ate them all. Knowing that my need for cookies was great I needed a nice place to get an oven to bake more cookies. I'm not going to go back to empire as it's just too far and while empire cookies are great why go there when I can just bake them here. Since BoB was already around they offered me a chance to use their store to build my oven in. I said "Really? Aw shucks mister! Thanks!" So I built me a big ass oven to bake all the friggin cookies I desire. Now if the cookie theif had went to Venal or Stain, well then I would've chased them there, snatched my cookies back ate them and built an oven for more cookies. But no! They did not. That's why I am baking cookies in Period Basis. I think Band of Bakers are the only confectioner around that would allow me to build an oven in the back of their store. The other bakeries around the neighborhood are too cutthroat or mean to let a little defenseless gal with a sweet tooth and a penchant for snickerdoodles to build in oven in their stores anyway. Lucky me, now I get all the damned kladdkaka and tea cookies I could desire! COOKIES! Haha can't touch this!
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.03.13 06:25:00 - [98] Edited by: Shin Ra on 13/03/2006 06:25:11 Originally by: Alberta Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Cummilla IS Blacklight old IRL? heh Old enough to be a lot wiser than Junior, which I will remind him of again in London in April as I hold his head down the loo and flush it for a laugh Finally! A plausible explanation for his hairstyle in the photo's from the fanfest. Nope, just a REALLY long time since I got it cut. And yes comparitively speaking his probably old enough to be my dad.
Oni 1	Posted - 2006.03.13 06:33:00 - [99] Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Raid Um if you actually read what i wrote.. thats exactly what i've been saying. MC wont take a contract up aginsst bob and theres some disagreement as to why that is. Dianabolic sees is as no one has a plan or the money to pay MC... i see it being more like MC's fee for BOB has always been just high enough that no one can really afford it (or would ever want to pay MC that much to do it). The end result is the same, and this outpost only solidifies that such a contract will never happen. I patiently read all the posts of yours in this thread, and all of them have only one thing in common - you somehow assume that MC is in the business just for kicks. Sorry to break the news for you, but they are in it for money. Helpful link. Consequently, irrespective of any outpost existence, MC bills for engaging BOB would be higher than average, simply because they rely on intelligence and reconaissance data to estimate potential adversaries. I hope this is comprehensible enough without having an accounting background of dbp Perhaps you would better understand the issue, if your guys would stop humping the Doril/Sendaya gate and trying to demand "something substantial and meaningful to the region" from 15-man newbie corps who had actually taken the trouble to make a proper diplomatic approach to request neutrality for passthrough corridor usage. But I guess that would require some business sense, if not actually accounting or diplomacy skills -- This is my personal opinion and doesn't represent DAB or RAZOR alliance in any respect (d) is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict; This is taken from the link u provided.
Therem Harth	Posted - 2006.03.13 07:41:00 - [100] Originally by: Oni 1 Helpful link. (d) is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict; This is taken from the link u provided. Owning a business in a foreign country doesn't usually automatically make you a resident, and certainly not a national. There are exceptions to that rule, but not many. Same goes for real estate. There are countries that limit the sale of real estate properties to residents only, but tbh I haven't noticed any such legislation to be in effect in Period Basis
Leafo	Posted - 2006.03.13 08:08:00 - [101] Edited by: Leafo on 13/03/2006 08:09:57 Link to the Mercenary Coalition 'Frequently Asked Questions'. Has been there since day 1 of the MC. For other serious and relevant questions please contact any of the MC's representatives. Thank you. //Leafo click on sig for all MC videos
KingAc	Posted - 2006.03.13 10:16:00 - [102] MC got the 3 secret Kladdkaka bpo¦s We need basic a big baker to make kladdkakor of haxxor.
Randay	Posted - 2006.03.13 10:30:00 - [103] Congrats to the MC on thier outpost! ------------------------------------------- "Det hSr kan betyda krig!"
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:08:00 - [104] Originally by: Leafo Link to the Mercenary Coalition 'Frequently Asked Questions'. Though, should be noted that the "we reserve right not to accept contracts on friends and family" is just a safe-guard in case we got a contract proposal on an alt corp or something. But as Seleene said "we'd take a contract on our alt corps, too, since it'd be so damned fun!" Also, don't keep your valuables in the back pocket - it's a rather easy to pick pocket those. Originally by: KilROCK Originally by: Arkanor Gallente missileboat might be cool. Pod yourself till you got no skills.[
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:23:00 - [105] so since mc is carebearing might as well hire a merc corp to annoy the hell out of them.. ;) whos the cheapest, but annoying merc corp around, contact me ingame.. ^^ :P "We brake for nobody"
Fitz Chivalry	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:34:00 - [106] Edited by: Fitz Chivalry on 13/03/2006 11:35:21 I cant really understand why there is any major surprise/interest to this move as it makes perfect sense for both parties. (i) BoB get someone they can trust with a vested interest in the security of that region so that if they are threatened they would effectively hire the help of the MC for free as they would want to attack that hostile. (ii) The hostile would not be able to hire MC against BoB as the cost would be prohibitively high (though it would have been anyway). (iii) BoB often go wandering about space and if MC are at home carebearing then this leaves their home space with a decent pvp presence that would attack hostiles for free. (iv) MC need access to 0.0 space as there is far more money to be made ratting and mining in 0.0 than there is from merc activities, they are just not as much fun. Also it makes things much easier from a capital ships construction perspective. (v) I doubt very much that MC would have ever taken a contract against BoB and so this changes very little. I am not saying MC were/are in league with BoB, its just that the price they would have quoted would have been so high that it would not be worth doing, you would be better off hiring half a dozen of the other merc bands out there instead for more bang for your buck. Having recently constructed our own outpost, I know what a sense of achievement it brings to have your own home. Enjoy. edit: be interesting to see if another alliance forms a similar deal with one of the other big merc corps/groups.
Avon	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:29:00 - [107] What an amusing thread. MC's outpost means they'll never fight BoB? Hardly. If they got paid what it takes, and were sure that the contracting alliance had the stones to carry through the fight until the region was secure, what difference would the outpost make? So long as MC are allowed to use it, it doesn't matter to them who 'owns' the space. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
jamesw	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:38:00 - [108] I got halfway through this thread... ... then my head started to hurt -- Latest Vid: Bobbing for Xelas
Fred0	Posted - 2006.03.13 13:02:00 - [109] What I don't understand is why everyone is so hellbent on building their own capital ships instead of outright buying them. I guess it must be because it's so much easier to convince the corp pets to mine for corp minerals instead of asking them to hand over the cash right away ---
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.03.13 13:13:00 - [110] Cos it's cheap like the budgie ? .... Real men use blasters
Audrea	Posted - 2006.03.13 13:33:00 - [111] Congrats on the refining outposts.. two questions though: 1) Is it made of duct tape and corrosioned metals, like all the minmatar ships? 2) Would like to see one and how it holds together. are we allowed to come take a look there, and dock? ---------------------------------------------- All my posts are my own opinions and dont not represent any organization until stated otherwise.
gizli	Posted - 2006.03.13 13:40:00 - [112] btw the chav has a potateo shaped head, potatoe or some sort of nacho's.
Lowa	Posted - 2006.03.13 15:26:00 - [113] Originally by: Velsharoon Eyebrow is a chav [highpitchedvoice]Weeeeeeeeeee![/highpitchedvoice] laughs my self off chair NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
darth solo	Posted - 2006.03.13 15:54:00 - [114] IS Blacklight old IRL? heh hes 62. d solo.
Crash addict	Posted - 2006.03.13 16:33:00 - [115] look up the corp ticker... chav
pshepherd	Posted - 2006.03.13 16:41:00 - [116] Originally by: Fred0 What I don't understand is why everyone is so hellbent on building their own capital ships instead of outright buying them. Being self sufficient is very usefull during a time of war, especially if hostiles are doing a lot of camping. ============== This is a sig O RLY? - Imaran I've only done 4 hours of Tools for 2D graphics, give me a few weeks and i'll be cool, really.
InfoForYou	Posted - 2006.03.13 17:25:00 - [117] If a mercenary is not willing to take a contract on against anyone and everyone then they should no longer be considered a Merc. MC are now just a another 0.0 alliance nothing more.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.03.13 17:48:00 - [118] Originally by: Fred0 What I don't understand is why everyone is so hellbent on building their own capital ships instead of outright buying them. I guess it must be because it's so much easier to convince the corp pets to mine for corp minerals instead of asking them to hand over the cash right away There are a number of reasons, in no particular order: * It guarentees a supply. * It guarentees a delivery date. * It saves us money. * It makes us money. * They're built where we want them. * We build 99% of what we use, ourselves, it's a self sufficiency thing. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 18:01:00 - [119] There isnt a corp or alliance in eve that could afford MC to attack BoB tbh. Well I take that back maybe they could afford one weeks service.
Coug	Posted - 2006.03.13 18:06:00 - [120] This entire thread only really has one point regardless of future contracts or not (as I fully believe MC to fight BoB if the price is right - read: high). MC, with the construction of the outpost in BoB space (as the culminating event), has firmly entered the 0.0 political/military arena as a non-neutral entity on the "side" of BoB. Standings will be set (if they are not already) accordingly by many people I'm sure. ----------------- ~C~
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 18:09:00 - [121] Originally by: Coug This entire thread only really has one point regardless of future contracts or not (as I fully believe MC to fight BoB if the price is right - read: high). MC, with the construction of the outpost in BoB space (as the culminating event), has firmly entered the 0.0 political/military arena as a non-neutral entity on the "side" of BoB. Standings will be set (if they are not already) accordingly by many people I'm sure. I cannot comment on standings but I am still waiting for a spanking from Seleene. Maybe my horum forage isnt as good as it should be in order for recognition.
Fred0	Posted - 2006.03.13 18:12:00 - [122] ---
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.03.13 18:12:00 - [123] To be honest I can't help but chuckle at all these 'OMG the MC have joined the political arena blah blah blah' posts. You know if the MC were offered the right money to have a go at us, we would be more than happy for them to take the contract. The fact that they have an outpost in one of our regions wouldn't matter a damn to us. We'd fight them during the contract and cause them as much pain as possible, expect them to do exactly the same to us, then we'd sit back and have a few beers and a laugh about it with them afterwards. If you believe otherwise there's no wonder you're crap at Eve. Eve Blacklight Style
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 18:13:00 - [124] Originally by: Blacklight To be honest I can't help but chuckle at all these 'OMG the MC have joined the political arena blah blah blah' posts. You know if the MC were offered the right money to have a go at us, we would be more than happy for them to take the contract. The fact that they have an outpost in one of our regions wouldn't matter a damn to us. We'd fight them during the contract and cause them as much pain as possible, expect them to do exactly the same to us, then we'd sit back and have a few beers and a laugh about it with them afterwards. If you believe otherwise there's no wonder you're crap at Eve. BURN!!!!111!!!
thebold	Posted - 2006.03.13 18:34:00 - [125] Originally by: Blacklight To be honest I can't help but chuckle at all these 'OMG the MC have joined the political arena blah blah blah' posts. To be honest I can't help but chuckle at all these 'OMG the SA going to be BBQ'ed posts by BOB blah blah blah' posts. :)
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 18:37:00 - [126] Originally by: thebold Originally by: Blacklight To be honest I can't help but chuckle at all these 'OMG the MC have joined the political arena blah blah blah' posts. To be honest I can't help but chuckle at all these 'OMG the SA going to be BBQ'ed posts by BOB blah blah blah' posts. :) Really? Because unless you haven't checked your kb recently, you are getting BBQ'ed. Badly. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 18:38:00 - [127] Originally by: thebold Originally by: Blacklight To be honest I can't help but chuckle at all these 'OMG the MC have joined the political arena blah blah blah' posts. To be honest I can't help but chuckle at all these 'OMG the SA going to be BBQ'ed posts by BOB blah blah blah' posts. :) You are still sitting inside a station chuckling tho arent you Mr. Joke?
thebold	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:10:00 - [128] Originally by: Rohann You are still sitting inside a station chuckling tho arent you Mr. Joke? No? im 2 jumps from NOL ? ow and here comes your gank squad now :)
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:12:00 - [129] Originally by: thebold Originally by: Rohann You are still sitting inside a station chuckling tho arent you Mr. Joke? No? im 2 jumps from NOL ? ow and here comes your gank squad now :) Yes they are doing what you are not. Protecting their space.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:15:00 - [130] Originally by: thebold Originally by: Rohann You are still sitting inside a station chuckling tho arent you Mr. Joke? No? im 2 jumps from NOL ? ow and here comes your gank squad now :) Yup, you've gone from hiding in 9rq to hiding in yz-. What an amazing player you are. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Avon	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:16:00 - [131] Originally by: Rohann Originally by: thebold Originally by: Blacklight To be honest I can't help but chuckle at all these 'OMG the MC have joined the political arena blah blah blah' posts. To be honest I can't help but chuckle at all these 'OMG the SA going to be BBQ'ed posts by BOB blah blah blah' posts. :) You are still sitting inside a station chuckling tho arent you Mr. Joke? Oh, that made me laugh. Superb. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:17:00 - [132] Yeah the magical toothfairy is killing you in Stain.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:19:00 - [133] Originally by: Mauxir Yeah the magical toothfairy is killing you in Stain. Umm, You're killing us in stain? That's a funny one. HAHA. No. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:20:00 - [134] So youre saying you are not losing ships in Stain? Can I have what youre smoking?
Tennotsukai	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:20:00 - [135] /me waves Hi Mum..
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:22:00 - [136] Originally by: Mauxir So youre saying you are not losing ships in Stain? Can I have what youre smoking? No we have lost ships that I will give you but we are not getting completly massacred. As you are.
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:23:00 - [137] Yeah and my dad is bigger than yours. Go play with your dolls junior.
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:25:00 - [138] Originally by: Mauxir Yeah and my dad is bigger than yours. Go play with your dolls junior. LoL?
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:25:00 - [139] Edited by: DB Preacher on 13/03/2006 19:25:18 Originally by: Mauxir So youre saying you are not losing ships in Stain? Can I have what youre smoking? Dude, Have a look at your kb, then have a look at your region. You've killed 3 BS in stain all weekend. You are getting owned and spending all your time trying to avoid us in Stain. Meanwhile we now have complete control of 9rq, the supposed heart of SA space. All too easy. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Coranor	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:28:00 - [140] Yes Mauxir well done you can read the losses section of our killboard. If however you could read our kills section you would quite quickly realise that your alliance is losing ships and battles at a rate i've not seen since, well ever actually. Maybe they need the help of the all powerful MASS. --------------
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:29:00 - [141] Yeah DB I agree just get Sir Molle to make a post about us being dead and you can go back to your mining. And the great thing is you mainly come in hacs and inties but you casually go for how many BS we killed. And how about the ***you are reciving in Bob land? You wanna chat about the PR battle or they ***your gank squad recived two days ago in YZ9. Shushh and go make some more ignorant posts.
Coranor	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:31:00 - [142] But you forget that we actually have something called logistics my dear boy. Hacs and inties are cheap as chips. --------------
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:32:00 - [143] Originally by: Mauxir Yeah DB I agree just get Sir Molle to make a post about us being dead and you can go back to your mining. And the great thing is you mainly come in hacs and inties but you casually go for how many BS we killed. And how about the ***you are reciving in Bob land? You wanna chat about the PR battle or they *your gank squad recived two days ago in YZ9. Shushh and go make some more ignorant posts. Umm, 6 bs in those battles? We killed more in one battle against Mass. And as for us only coming in inties and hacs.... BZ\|ZZZZZZ\|T Shall I pull some stats for you from our combined KB's? No seriously, I will if you want to continue talking. You are ours to toy with as we please. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto** Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:33:00 - [144] Those hacs cost what the market will pay for them. And since you cant build 50 a day they may be cheap for you but at the rate you are loosing them you wont be able to replace them fast for too long.
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:33:00 - [145] Originally by: Mauxir Yeah DB I agree just get Sir Molle to make a post about us being dead and you can go back to your mining. And the great thing is you mainly come in hacs and inties but you casually go for how many BS we killed. And how about the ***you are reciving in Bob land? You wanna chat about the PR battle or they ***your gank squad recived two days ago in YZ9. Shushh and go make some more ignorant posts. I am glad you brought that up. My question is wtf are you doing in Delve when we are in Stain? Apparently you dont have the ballz to fight in Stain. But by all means stay there it just means Stain will fall easier.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:34:00 - [146] Originally by: Mauxir Those hacs cost what the market will pay for them. And since you cant build 50 a day they may be cheap for you but at the rate you are loosing them you wont be able to replace them fast for too long. bzzzt, WRONG AGAIN BOY. Unlike you, we can Mass produce ships. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
TWD	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:34:00 - [147] Originally by: Mauxir Yeah DB I agree just get Sir Molle to make a post about us being dead and you can go back to your mining. And the great thing is you mainly come in hacs and inties but you casually go for how many BS we killed. Duuude, there is a BoB fleet sitting right in the middle of Stain and has been there for the last week. Where is SA??!
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:34:00 - [148] We are in Stain cause you beat your chest and said bring it. Now that we are here you are complainin that we are here. Are you okay want to sit down while i get you a glass of water?
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:35:00 - [149] In Delve TWD in delve 2 jumps from NOL.
thebold	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:36:00 - [150] killing bs doesnt constitute to loosing a war.
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:36:00 - [151] Originally by: Mauxir We are in Stain cause you beat your chest and said bring it. Now that we are here you are complainin that we are here. Are you okay want to sit down while i get you a glass of water? LOL OMFG SOMEONE GET THIS MAN A FECKING CLUE!!!!! You attacked us and declared war. We came to Stain and you left for Delve. What kind of imbecile fleet commanders do you have or are you relying on a decoder ring from a cereal box to understand what we are saying?
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:36:00 - [152] Originally by: Mauxir We are in Stain cause you beat your chest and said bring it. Now that we are here you are complainin that we are here. Are you okay want to sit down while i get you a glass of water? You aren't anywhere. There is a tiny smattering of ships based out of a couple of NPC stations in a couple of systems. The rest of you appear to be ummmmm, who knows. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:36:00 - [153] Originally by: Mauxir We are in Stain cause you beat your chest and said bring it. Now that we are here you are complainin that we are here. Are you okay want to sit down while i get you a glass of water? lol getting a little bit wound up there kiddo, you seem to be getting awfully confused. Eve Blacklight Style
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:37:00 - [154] Dont cry Rohann it will all be ok.
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:37:00 - [155] Originally by: thebold killing bs doesnt constitute to loosing a war. No but hiding in stations spewing ****e on the forums without bringing it does.
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:39:00 - [156] Originally by: Mauxir Dont cry Rohann it will all be ok. It's ok already. I guess my expectations were a bit much. Your just like the rest tho really.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:40:00 - [157] Edited by: DB Preacher on 13/03/2006 19:40:07 Originally by: Mauxir Dont cry Rohann it will all be ok. Actually it will be ok for Rohann because if you continue to pvp cough lol as you have been you will be in fear of becoming the biggest joke in the South. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:40:00 - [158] As are you.
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:41:00 - [159] Norad fights better than you guys. Oh wait a minute.....yep its confirmed...... BURN
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:45:00 - [160] Originally by: Mauxir Dont cry Rohann it will all be ok. Hey Mauxir, go ask how your fleet is in delve now ROFL. they all dead :< dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Wuubaa	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:47:00 - [161] IAM!
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:47:00 - [162] Yeah DB gf. Now go **** I know you want to.
Kryztal	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:48:00 - [163] I find it funny how SA have been complaining about us not bringing it and as soon as we bring it you all scatter and run away. A few SA said in local that killing you wouldnt be as easy to kill as FA was. Guess what, even FA put up more of a fight the first few weeks. You wanted us to bring it, you complained and moaned that we didnt bring it. You have made a fool of yourself and showed the rest of EvE what kind of Alliance you really are. Run and Hide. Black Nova Corp Bob(TM) Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:48:00 - [164] Originally by: Mauxir Yeah DB gf. Now go ** I know you want to. Not really a good fight. Just another day defending our home from fools. Bye. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto** Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:50:00 - [165] Well now, you gonna come back to Stain now?
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:52:00 - [166] Edited by: Mauxir on 13/03/2006 19:51:54 No we like it in Delve. Npc stations and all that.
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:53:00 - [167] Originally by: Mauxir Edited by: Mauxir on 13/03/2006 19:51:54 No we like it in Delve. Npc stations and all that. K go get new ships now.
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:54:00 - [168] Yeah got one. OMW
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.03.13 19:57:00 - [169] Originally by: Mauxir Yeah got one. OMW Rofl, that's the way dude. You wave the Stain Flag in Delve. Biggest.... pvp..... joke..... ever. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
pony2slow	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:00:00 - [170] Edited by: pony2slow on 13/03/2006 20:00:19 Originally by: pony2slow Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Mauxir Yeah got one. OMW Rofl, that's the way dude. You wave the Stain Flag in Delve. Biggest.... pvp..... joke..... ever. dbp yeah they dont get it m8.. dont even bother anymore.. we destroy whatever they put in Stain and then we kill whatever they send to Delve... Hmm.. not only can we invade other lands but protect our own at the same time also.. SA please.. You asked for it. You got it. And know you run away to Delve. No worries m8. When you goto Delve we will be there. When you come back to "your" home we will be there. damn it wrong guy.. Stupid alt.. That was me ponieus. I dont mean to hide behind that alt.
pony2slow	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:00:00 - [171] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Mauxir Yeah got one. OMW Rofl, that's the way dude. You wave the Stain Flag in Delve. Biggest.... pvp..... joke..... ever. dbp yeah they dont get it m8.. dont even bother anymore.. we destroy whatever they put in Stain and then we kill whatever they send to Delve... Hmm.. not only can we invade other lands but protect our own at the same time also.. SA please.. You asked for it. You got it. And know you run away to Delve. No worries m8. When you goto Delve we will be there. When you come back to "your" home we will be there.
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:01:00 - [172] ok
Rohann	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:02:00 - [173] Originally by: pony2slow Edited by: pony2slow on 13/03/2006 20:00:19 Originally by: pony2slow Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Mauxir Yeah got one. OMW Rofl, that's the way dude. You wave the Stain Flag in Delve. Biggest.... pvp..... joke..... ever. dbp yeah they dont get it m8.. dont even bother anymore.. we destroy whatever they put in Stain and then we kill whatever they send to Delve... Hmm.. not only can we invade other lands but protect our own at the same time also.. SA please.. You asked for it. You got it. And know you run away to Delve. No worries m8. When you goto Delve we will be there. When you come back to "your" home we will be there. damn it wrong guy.. Stupid alt.. That was me ponieus. I dont mean to hide behind that alt. OMFG BOB USES ALTS TO POST WTF!?!?!?!?
Galavet	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:26:00 - [174] Originally by: Mauxir Edited by: Mauxir on 13/03/2006 19:51:54 No we like it in Delve. Npc stations and all that. So if I brought all my guys back from stain to fight you in delve would you stay and fight or run back to stain screaming "We pwn!!!11" and avoid all real fights.. Honest question, would you stand your ground or not? Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:28:00 - [175] If you are asking would we line up and let you kill us then the answer is no. We are not in Napoleonic wars.
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:35:00 - [176] "If you are asking would we line up and let you kill us then the answer is no." ... So, you don't even consider the possibility you could actually win a head-on fight, and reckon all you can do is run around and gank random target here and there? That's rather... weak, for all the earlier forum chest beating and stuff :/
Raid	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:36:00 - [177] 2 pages of PURE flames. Zip up and stop the measuring guys this is so childish, both sides look stupid. /me looks for a mod.
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:39:00 - [178] We just engaged outnumbered so we do engage in uneven fights dont spin it its "even" beneath you.
Lowa	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:40:00 - [179] Oi! This thread is supposed to be about Ouposts! And us never going for BoB! Dont make me log on and kill a corpmate! I swear i will! Get this thread back on track! Right this minute! And bring some Kladdkaka, need the sugar and cream! /LOWA - mini-bar is empty! This SUCKS! NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
thebold	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:40:00 - [180] Gal, The reason we stalled on moving some of us into delve was because if we went in first ASCN would of turned on us... Now we can do what we want we didnt want ascn to turn on us because im more scared of them.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:46:00 - [181] Originally by: Lowa Oi! This thread is supposed to be about Ouposts! And us never going for BoB! Dont make me log on and kill a corpmate! I swear i will! Get this thread back on track! Right this minute! And bring some Kladdkaka, need the sugar and cream! /LOWA - mini-bar is empty! This SUCKS! Apparently u guys did something sexual to me with the Kladdkaka as part of this deal. heh Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Kazim	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:48:00 - [182] rofl Forum Wars are GO! lay of the smack db its doesnt suit you
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:49:00 - [183] "We just engaged outnumbered so we do engage in uneven fights dont spin it" uhmm i didn't say anything to such effect? o.O Galavet asked if BoB came back to Delve for you, would you stay there and fight, and you answered no, you wouldn't let BoB kill you all like that. It was the fact you didn't even consider other possible outcome to such kind of fight but BoB killing you all if you stayed, that i commented on. If taking your words at face value is spinning... oh well. ..;
Nafri	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:50:00 - [184] Originally by: j0sephine "Interesting.. MC outpost in PB... i guess MC really is in BOB's back pocket." I guess it means so is/was the ISS then, seeing how they were allowed to operate in BoB space and run their starbases in it... or maybe someone simply had enough business sense to negotiate a contract that'd benefit both sides enough to warrant it. o.O but that stops a 0.0 contract against Bob totally
Nafri	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:51:00 - [185] Originally by: Lowa Oi! This thread is supposed to be about Ouposts! And us never going for BoB! Dont make me log on and kill a corpmate! I swear i will! Get this thread back on track! Right this minute! And bring some Kladdkaka, need the sugar and cream! /LOWA - mini-bar is empty! This SUCKS! already put it back on track
Mauxir	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:53:00 - [186] Josephine do you have trouble putting letters together? I said I wouldnt stand and be slaughtered I never said we wouldnt fight. Selective reading must be a new skill dunno where to buy it though if you could let me know where I would appriciate it.
Lowa	Posted - 2006.03.13 20:58:00 - [187] Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Lowa Oi! This thread is supposed to be about Ouposts! And us never going for BoB! Dont make me log on and kill a corpmate! I swear i will! Get this thread back on track! Right this minute! And bring some Kladdkaka, need the sugar and cream! /LOWA - mini-bar is empty! This SUCKS! already put it back on track Thank you. I will now sleep in peace. Out. Sksl! NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
dantes inferno	Posted - 2006.03.13 21:01:00 - [188] Quote: Selective reading must be a new skill dunno where to buy it though if you could let me know where I would appriciate it. its given out exclusivly to slob members upon completion of their forum whoring/warfarw and propeganda training _____ This is a Stain Alliance Fighter. It is protecting the assets of Stain Alliance, and may attack anyone it perceives as a threat, Threat Level: Trigglarist Fundermentalist
Alberta	Posted - 2006.03.13 21:04:00 - [189] Originally by: darth solo IS Blacklight old IRL? heh hes 62. d solo. Wrong. He's 64, and we're currently debating if we still need him, and if it's worth the effort it takes to push a few bananas a day through the bars of his cage. My Thoughts on Game Balance
Braaage	Posted - 2006.03.13 21:06:00 - [190] Originally by: thebold Gal, The reason we stalled on moving some of us into delve was because if we went in first ASCN would of turned on us... Now we can do what we want we didnt want ascn to turn on us because im more scared of them. Come again?? ___________________________________________ http://www.eve-tutor.com Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.03.13 21:11:00 - [191] Originally by: Raid 2 pages of PURE flames. Zip up and stop the measuring guys this is so childish, both sides look stupid. /me looks for a mod. People complain when we stop the banter, they complain when we don't. What you should have done was email [email protected] so we could have noticed this thread and addressed it properly if you had a concern. At least people are using their mains for the most part. But for now, this thread is too far gone off-topic. It appears as though the OP got her answer in the midst of everything else included. Click. ___


Abdalion	Posted - 2006.03.13 21:13:00 - [192] Forgot to add, I now have a burning desire for some sticky chocolate. Wonder why that is? ___


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