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Auraka Sith
JPG Industries
1
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:14:00 -
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Just one thing I don't understand... this player behind the killing has killed 25 ships with only 2 losses all in 0.8 or higher areas.... how is this play not getting Concord'd?
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Archibald Thistlewaite III
349
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:17:00 -
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Concord don't post their killmails. |

stoicfaux
3748
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:40:00 -
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Auraka Sith wrote:Just one thing I don't understand... this player behind the killing has killed 25 ships with only 2 losses all in 0.8 or higher areas.... how is this play not getting Concord'd?
Thanks No, the real question is why the the player isn't permanent-kill-on-sight at the request of the resident corporations, neighborhood associations, police, chambers of commerce and other heavy weight political donors.
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
937
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:43:00 -
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celebro wrote:Once you undock you are not safe anywhere in EvE, that's the way it has always been. Get it through you head, CCP intended for this type of gameplay and still support it. Still, but less and less. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Apocryphal Noise
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
86
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:45:00 -
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I'm just shocked that someone who's been playing for 5 years is so ignorant of basic game mechanics. Bears be bearin' I suppose, |

Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
807
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:48:00 -
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Apocryphal Noise wrote:I'm just shocked that someone who's been playing for 5 years is so ignorant of basic game mechanics. Bears be bearin' I suppose,
You need to see when the losing there first ship the will never come back again.... Yes thats we call people. |

Karrl Tian
Bourbon Bandits Anarchy.
363
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:49:00 -
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Obviously a troll. Everyone knows younger characters can't kill older characters. |

Lailyana Enaka
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
118
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Posted - 2013.12.30 01:54:00 -
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Fully Armored with Shield Extender I.....so can i have your stuff? |

Bel Tika
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel's
191
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Posted - 2013.12.30 02:03:00 -
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Hi-Sec's an illusion, it needs dismantled |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1262
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Posted - 2013.12.30 02:40:00 -
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James McMario wrote:Thanks McPew. I might keep those advises in mind. Seems like I should have been more careful :)
To people like Magna, Haedonism, etc. - seems like by posting this I accidently dialed "0" as you guys showed up eventually. That community here is even worse then I thought... get a life, ok?
But on the other hand, thanks to those here that posted something useful. I'll be licking wounds and let's see :)
Thanks, Jim
@Admin: you can close this one :) Damn James, don't let them sucker you into thinking you could have made better choices. You're OP was spot on.
These responses are the responses of idea cloning. Its what politicians and PR reps use, a variation of the emperors new clothes.
Ockhams Razor, the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, trust your first instincts. You were about to become one of them.
Having said that you can get a Tayra to 28k ehp with 18k m3 which would be enough to defeat 2 Ganknados. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3004
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Posted - 2013.12.30 02:47:00 -
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You can fit a Tornado to have volley damage over 13,000 hp. Targets fast for full damage at 30km. The risk is a 60 mil ISK fit ship. The potential payoff is the loot drop.
The rest is just a calculation.
If you have over 300mil in cargo I'd roll the dice on it.

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Manes Avatarr
Adventurers
115
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Posted - 2013.12.30 03:00:00 -
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I understend the op's tears and hopelesness. In the past i lost over 2B in Wreathe. And yeah, same story - alpha Tornado.
[b]STUPIDITY IS EXPENSIVE[/b
I've learned it hard way. And im not he first nor the last, naive in hisec.
I think the worst thing the CCP *is* doing to ppl is telling them that they are safe in hisec. That there are police, navies and all. And ppl think that they are protected and their business safe and they can shot NPC in their big, funny sandbox.
Again, i feel for your loss but its not that big. Lesson learned. Head up and keep going. A bit smarter. ADVENTURERS Corp. | To explore & fight! | https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2906996 |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18609
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Posted - 2013.12.30 03:30:00 -
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Yonis Kador wrote:Wow. The loot fairy really likes Steve Keebler. A Stratios and 4 Macks in one afternoon. Nice. But wasn't Tippia just saying that surviving on gate scraps was less profitable a couple days ago and that these kinds of ganks were on the decline? I said that trying to steal gank loot is pretty much a non-starter these days because they're so rare. So far, nothing has really been provided to disprove this.
Quote:Steve didn't get that memo. Steve is a single data point, not a world-wide trend. People have been stupidly stuffing their T1s full of overprices stuff since the birth of the universe; the fact that they're still doing it doesn't indicate that ganking has become more common. If anything, it shows that it's exceedingly rare since the thought apparently doesn't enter people's minds that it's a bad thing to do.
Or worse: it does enter their mind, but a rational calculation shows that the risk is so close to zero as to not matter.
Every time someone comes on the forums screaming in shock and horror about being ganked (and inevitably be shown to have all but invited that gank through their fitting and cargo choice) and kicking up a storm about how ganking is out of control, it only reinforces the sense that it's increasingly rare. The irony is that if it was even close to as common as these self-made victims proclaimed, there would be no posts because it would be such a natural part of life that no-one would bat an eye when it happened. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
237
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Posted - 2013.12.30 04:57:00 -
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Tippia wrote:The irony is that if (ganking were) even close to as common as these self-made victims proclaimed, there would be no posts because it would be such a natural part of life that no-one would bat an eye when it happened. Now who's making unsubstantiated claims? :-)
MDD |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
10662
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Posted - 2013.12.30 07:09:00 -
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Best of luck in SC. See you when you realize EVE is the king spaceship game again 
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1262
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Posted - 2013.12.30 07:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Yonis Kador wrote:Wow. The loot fairy really likes Steve Keebler. A Stratios and 4 Macks in one afternoon. Nice. But wasn't Tippia just saying that surviving on gate scraps was less profitable a couple days ago and that these kinds of ganks were on the decline? I said that trying to steal gank loot is pretty much a non-starter these days because they're so rare. So far, nothing has really been provided to disprove this. Quote:Steve didn't get that memo. Steve is a single data point, not a world-wide trend. People have been stupidly stuffing their T1s full of overprices stuff since the birth of the universe; the fact that they're still doing it doesn't indicate that ganking has become more common. If anything, it shows that it's exceedingly rare since the thought apparently doesn't enter people's minds that it's a bad thing to do. Or worse: it does enter their mind, but a rational calculation shows that the risk is so close to zero as to not matter. Every time someone comes on the forums screaming in shock and horror about being ganked (and inevitably be shown to have all but invited that gank through their fitting and cargo choice) and kicking up a storm about how ganking is out of control, it only reinforces the sense that it's increasingly rare. The irony is that if it was even close to as common as these self-made victims proclaimed, there would be no posts because it would be such a natural part of life that no-one would bat an eye when it happened. Lmao. Priceless Tippia. That last paragraph is pure gold - as long as someones reporting its not happening :).
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7971
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Posted - 2013.12.30 07:43:00 -
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That's not what he said... Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2178
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Posted - 2013.12.30 07:47:00 -
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surely infinity ziona would not misrepresent another's argument |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1900
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Posted - 2013.12.30 08:26:00 -
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Once again Tippia is making unfounded claims about the frequency of hi-sec ganking.
Again, unless he can provide real evidence, ( that he has not been ganked for a while is NOT evidence) I call BS.
I do not know if the frequency of ganking is up, down or at a consistent level, neither does he.
But some null-sec folk do like a good whinge just for the sake of it. This is not a signature. |

Paddyman21
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.30 08:30:00 -
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Wait, are you for real? You're leaving because you lost 600M ISK in HighSec? I'm sorry but LOL
Also, I read one of the comments that players are leaving because of that. Dude, there are people saying that same thing for years now, and I mean years. Yet, CCP is live an kicking and celebrated 10 years this year. It is something called migration, some people come, some people leave.
Do some of you even know what a single sandbox mean? What do you want a single secure zone where you can carebear ISK as much as you want without anyone being able to touch you? Well LOL again.
If you want to feel safe, I guess you should go to Null, it's most likely you will be more protected there by your buddies than anywhere in the highsec.
Jesus, you can get out of your home today and get hit by a car. What are you going to do? Cry "Well booohoo, I want a highsec life where nothing bad can happen to me" WTH??? Grow up and man up! EVEBLK | Balkan EVE Online Portal http://eveonline.rs/ |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4332
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Posted - 2013.12.30 08:44:00 -
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Yonis Kador wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Yonis Kador wrote:Wow. The loot fairy really likes Steve Keebler. A Stratios and 4 Macks in one afternoon. Nice. But wasn't Tippia just saying that surviving on gate scraps was less profitable a couple days ago and that these kinds of ganks were on the decline? haha
Somebody better tell Steve.
YK Got a link for that? Judging by the ammount of T1 industrial kills appearing on a certain killboard, T1 industrial ganking is more prolific than ever. People just won't stop jamming everything they own in to untanked industrials. haha Of course I do. I may not write often but I read almost everything and I'm not really a b.s.'er. Tippia wrote:Incorrect on all counts.
I get my data from the simple fact that I used to make good money from sitting on the Jita undock or Perimeter gate(s) stealing gank loot, and you could count the CONCORD clouds along every highway. The money is gone, as are the clouds (and not just in the sense that they don't appear in force like in the olden days).
This makes it based on an observed reality, unlike every claim ever made about some supposed increase in ganking. For the record, I was only joshing Tippia with my comment. It isn't possible to refute someone's "observed reality," and I have no doubt those words were (as they all are with Tippia) carefully chosen. I just thought it was funny that I read this comment like yesterday and today there's all these indy kills with billions in loot drops not 3 jumps from the Perimeter gate. haha Steve didn't get that memo. YK
Nice. I find it particularly amusing since Miniluv killed over 400 T1 industrials last month for profit. This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4332
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Posted - 2013.12.30 08:50:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Yonis Kador wrote:Wow. The loot fairy really likes Steve Keebler. A Stratios and 4 Macks in one afternoon. Nice. But wasn't Tippia just saying that surviving on gate scraps was less profitable a couple days ago and that these kinds of ganks were on the decline? I said that trying to steal gank loot is pretty much a non-starter these days because they're so rare. So far, nothing has really been provided to disprove this. Quote:Steve didn't get that memo. Steve is a single data point, not a world-wide trend. People have been stupidly stuffing their T1s full of overprices stuff since the birth of the universe; the fact that they're still doing it doesn't indicate that ganking has become more common. If anything, it shows that it's exceedingly rare since the thought apparently doesn't enter people's minds that it's a bad thing to do. Or worse: it does enter their mind, but a rational calculation shows that the risk is so close to zero as to not matter. Every time someone comes on the forums screaming in shock and horror about being ganked (and inevitably be shown to have all but invited that gank through their fitting and cargo choice) and kicking up a storm about how ganking is out of control, it only reinforces the sense that it's increasingly rare. The irony is that if it was even close to as common as these self-made victims proclaimed, there would be no posts because it would be such a natural part of life that no-one would bat an eye when it happened.
http://i.imgur.com/szVvcU1.png This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18610
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Posted - 2013.12.30 08:54:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Lmao. Priceless Tippia. That last paragraph is pure gold - as long as someones reporting its not happening :). Ordinary things are not shocking or worth commenting on every time they happen. It's not really much more complicated than that. So let's put your misinterpretation into more accurate words: as long as someone is reporting it (especially if done in a tone of shock, surprise, and outrage that it happened), it's not common enough to be so out of control as many want to claim.
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Once again Tippia is making unfounded claims about the frequency of hi-sec ganking.
Again, unless he can provide real evidence, ( that he has not been ganked for a while is NOT evidence) I call BS. Go count them on the kill boards. Last time I did, we had just over 3 hauler kills a day in December this year in Niarja GÇö a system commonly showing up on the GÇ£gank centralGÇ¥ list of places to avoid GÇö compared to close to 4 four years ago. Yes, both numbers are low (unsurprisingly since ganking has never been as common as the victims are want to claim) but they're lower now regardless, in spite of having a higher population now, and in spite of fewer kills overall being reported back then.
Oh, and I've never presented being my being ganked as any kind of evidence other than to show an equally valid claim as GǣI was ganked, so it must be everywhereGǥ. Or, wellGǪ more accurately, my never being ganked. Because that is the number of times it has happened to me over the last 6 years. The anecdotal claims I provide is that in my first two years, I was targeted three times (all of which failed) and after that, I was never even targeted again.
Mallak Azaria wrote:http://i.imgur.com/szVvcU1.png And? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4333
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Posted - 2013.12.30 08:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:http://i.imgur.com/szVvcU1.png And?
Well you wouldn't believe it, but this guy is trying to tell me that ganking is exceedingly rare. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying it's out of control either, but it's a lot more common than you seem to think. This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |

Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
31
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:03:00 -
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Look @ some of the gankers past kills/huals. I need to get into that business too. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18610
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:03:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Well you wouldn't believe it, but this guy is trying to tell me that ganking is exceedingly rare. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying it's out of control either, but it's a lot more common than you seem to think. Based on a single data point? Yeah, no. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Chirjo Durruti
Snotra RDEM PLLC Haven.
2
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:56:00 -
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Have to ask: do ship hulls never drop or was that just bad luck for both participants?  HOWTO: No More Tears (solo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdA4ciUrH-k
If you can get me a better crew than THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPrtQ9AdoM0
convo me. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7973
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Posted - 2013.12.30 10:02:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3961593#post3961593
Malcanis wrote:The last data we had is that suicide ganking is far below it's peak.
Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Cloaky McWarpStab
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.12.30 11:03:00 -
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You guys should check out OP's Wolf lossmail... |

Frank Millar
322
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Posted - 2013.12.30 11:11:00 -
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Cloaky McWarpStab wrote:You guys should check out OP's Wolf lossmail... Looks like it was fitted with mission loot...  |
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