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Yosef Brinalle
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.12.30 11:18:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:For the OP:
High-sec isn't the USA or Europe in terms of safety, crime prevention and/or general security.
Instead, think of high-sec in terms of Mexico or Columbia where cartels and/or rebel groups are/were willfully flouting the law, to put it mildly. On one hand, egregious criminal acts will bring down the Federales (think CONCORD.) However, outside of that, the law is pretty weak, especially if you're an individual.
Welllllll, no. I can't think of a single country where the cargo involved in a crime won't be confiscated by the police or other governmnt forces. The only difference being whether the owner will ever see it again or it walks away from the evidence locker. CONCORD is suposed to be 'self funded' but it walks away from confiscating all that loot? The people at CCP could not write a consistent or realistic backstory if someone paid them.
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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2013.12.30 11:42:00 -
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James McMario wrote:Sometimes it obviously takes some events to finally take decisions. I am playing EVE since 2008, just 1-2h per week as real life is still some kind of important :).
Now I just learned that a fully armored (2 shield extenders) Tayra with 600 MIO ISK freight (my ship and freight of course,) can be blown out of space in INARO (a 0.8 high sec system!!!!!) with just one shot from a 1400mm canon of some player playing EVE sind November this year.
How - for god's sake - can something like this happen in HIGH SEC space. I was even flying the route coming from Jita "in manual", meaning flying from gate to gate by clicking it myself. So NO autopilot. The moment my Tayra got visible because of warping to the next gate exploded, releasing my pod. The guy started shooting at my pod also but that moment I hit warp and was not destroyed.
But - again - how can this happen in HIGH SEC space? I think CCP could balance something like this. Anybody an idea?
Well - maybe off to Star Citizen in the near future, there I can at least blame loosing my ship on my bad flying skills :)
Jim
So you have played for 5 years and all those years you cunningly avoided reading forums and understanding basic dps/alpha<>ehp figures. You learned nothing... in 5 years... How does that happen? |

Katran Luftschreck
Stillwater Corporation
2098
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:02:00 -
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James McMario wrote:I was even flying the route coming from Jita
And that's all we needed to know right there.
I've got a better idea than just leaving: Organize a freighter boycott of Jita. Eventually the kee-kee losers will get bored & leave, or the Goons will get mad that their favorite alt hangout went all ghost town on them and rub out all the kee-kee losers for you.
Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1264
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:12:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3961593#post3961593 Malcanis wrote:The last data we had is that suicide ganking is far below it's peak. Heh. Malcanis being a reliable unbiased source of ganking data. The only reason he's a CSM is because you rigged the vote for him. This guy is a forum mod who likes to put down / humiliate people who post about being ganked and generally breaks all the forums rules he's supposed to be enforcing :)
Next... |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18614
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:17:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Heh. Malcanis being a reliable unbiased source of ganking data. The only reason he's a CSM is because you rigged the vote for him. This guy is a forum mod who likes to put down / humiliate people who post about being ganked and generally breaks all the forums rules he's supposed to be enforcing :)
Next... GǪnext, it's time to sell your aluminium options because the foil business is through the roof!
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2178
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:19:00 -
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did james amril kesh personally rig malcanis' vote
perhaps you should email your proof of this to internal affairs
do you know what a csm is? |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2178
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:21:00 -
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:) because i'm so not mad about malcanis :) |

ZynnLee Akkori
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:27:00 -
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Regarding the risk\reward system gankers use to pick targets, what is a ship/fit that they will leave alone no matter what cargo you are carrying? If I wanted to ferry BPO's worth a trillion ISK all around Jita, what would be the safest ship/fit? One that would survive anything a ganker would throw at me until Concord showed up?
This of course presumes that the ganker didn't know ahead of time about the BPO's, and was in whatever they use for ganking.... |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1264
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:31:00 -
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I'm not interested in your dodgy denials. We know the system is rigged. You don't have to be a genius to understand that a coalition of 35k will be able to stack the CSM with all of its members and only represent themselves rather than the actual people they're supposed to represent - the playerbase.
ZynnLee Akkori wrote:Regarding the risk\reward system gankers use to pick targets, what is a ship/fit that they will leave alone no matter what cargo you are carrying? If I wanted to ferry BPO's worth a trillion ISK all around Jita, what would be the safest ship/fit? One that would survive anything a ganker would throw at me until Concord showed up?
This of course presumes that the ganker didn't know ahead of time about the BPO's, and was in whatever they use for ganking.... Ships are so cheap to buy and fit that there really is no ship that couldn't be alphaed or killed in a 0.5 or 0.6 by cats for that job. The only reasonable chance would be in a cov ops. I regularly transport multiple billions in blockade runners / covert frigs.
There are idiots killing freighters that are empty just for kicks... |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18615
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:36:00 -
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ZynnLee Akkori wrote:Regarding the risk\reward system gankers use to pick targets, what is a ship/fit that they will leave alone no matter what cargo you are carrying? No such thing. I suppose you could try something that would require a node-crashing amount of ships to gank, such as a capship, but you wouldn't be able to carry anything around in it since you can't change systems.
So instead, you just have to make sure that it's too much effort or too expensive to gank for what they get out of it, which generally means reducing the value of your haul.
Quote:If I wanted to ferry BPO's worth a trillion ISK all around Jita, what would be the safest ship/fit? One that would survive anything a ganker would throw at me until Concord showed up?
This of course presumes that the ganker didn't know ahead of time about the BPO's, and was in whatever they use for ganking.... Probably a blockade runner. Not that it withstands any kind of punishment, but it makes any kind of gank a gamble since they have no way of knowing what you're carrying. That in and of itself might be a red flag that you're worth going after, but on the other hand, BRs are very very tricky to catch if you fly them correctly.
Infinity Ziona wrote:I'm not interested in your dodgy denials. We know the system is rigged. Do we? Do you have anything to even hint at the stuff you just made up? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
107
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:39:00 -
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you should have been flying the Stratios with all of that cargo in its hold instead... covops cloaking > most stuff http://www.devilswarrior.info/killboard/?a=home |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4333
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:40:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Well you wouldn't believe it, but this guy is trying to tell me that ganking is exceedingly rare. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying it's out of control either, but it's a lot more common than you seem to think. Based on a single data point? Yeah, no.
Based on, you know, knowing what other groups are doing. I could go & link everything I use on a week to week basis to show you otherwise, but apart from being a colossal waste of time... No, that's basically it. This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2178
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:42:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:I'm not interested in your dodgy denials. We know the system is rigged. You don't have to be a genius to understand that a coalition of 35k will be able to stack the CSM with all of its members and only represent themselves rather than the actual people they're supposed to represent - the playerbase. actually, every single player was able to vote in the election, with each vote carrying equal weight
so in reality the playerbase voted for... the current csm, including malcanis |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4333
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:42:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3961593#post3961593 Malcanis wrote:The last data we had is that suicide ganking is far below it's peak. Heh. Malcanis being a reliable unbiased source of ganking data. The only reason he's a CSM is because you rigged the vote for him. This guy is a forum mod who likes to put down / humiliate people who post about being ganked and generally breaks all the forums rules he's supposed to be enforcing :) Next...
Since when did CSM member become forums mods? Oh right, you're that guy who also tried to tell us that making tens of billions per day is the standard income for nullsec line members. This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18615
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:44:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Based on, you know, knowing what other groups are doing. I could go & link everything I use on a week to week basis to show you otherwise, but apart from being a colossal waste of time... No, that's basically it. Not a complete waste. It would answer somewhere between half and a quarter of the question everyone is askingGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2178
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:44:00 -
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don't speak any more, the csm secret forum police will moderate you |

James McMario
WISMUT AG
11
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Posted - 2013.12.30 13:01:00 -
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Awesome. Seems like my issue - which happens to hundreds of players every day - was worth a 7 - page thread... not bad. Come on guys, let's go for more... ;)
Just kidding. Stop it. Please. (FORUM MOD, please close!!!)
To those asking why I didn't know that something like this could happen although I'm playing EVE for more then 5 years... Well, because it never happened to me before. Either I am extremely good (which I'm obviously not ;-) ) or I'm just not reading EVE forums every day and play 5-6hours a day. Shame on me. Let me just quit my job, quit with my gf and get rid of all those other things called real life... well, just a matter of priorities.
But this endless discussion here actually makes fun to follow and that somebody just put a bounty on me is hilarious. Looking forward to many more hours of EVE...
And now - let's go for 10 pages of threads... :)
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7981
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Posted - 2013.12.30 13:08:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:The only reason he's a CSM is because you rigged the vote for him. God damn it and I even covered my tracks too.
Infinity Ziona wrote:This guy is a forum mod WHAT Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2179
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Posted - 2013.12.30 13:09:00 -
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James McMario wrote:Just kidding. Stop it. Please. (FORUM MOD, please close!!!) malcanis, or an actual mod?
there's a yellow flag icon at the top of each post. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7981
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Posted - 2013.12.30 13:17:00 -
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I really take issue with the fact that people who make threads can request them be closed. Why does starting a conversation automatically give you the right to **** on everyone else who wants to participate if you don't like where it goes? Quite frankly it's stupid. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2179
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Posted - 2013.12.30 13:20:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I really take issue with the fact that people who make threads can request them be closed. Why does starting a conversation automatically give you the right to **** on everyone else who wants to participate if you don't like where it goes? Quite frankly it's stupid. if you want to fully confess to your nefarious election-rigging crimes you'll be able to start a new thread |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4202
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:35:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:So, would it be wrong to petition CCP to remaned General Discussion to "i need some way to blame the game or other people for my own imcompetence" discussion?
If only there were these industrial style ships that couldn't scanned that people could train for to move valuable stuff....... Blockade Runners fit with cloak warping to 0 at each gate. Why didn't you just post that simple info instead of hiding it within a bunch of sarcastic remarks? DMC Why are you concerned about how I speak to a weak willed complainer who'd rather post a hissy fit than learn how to play a video game? Last time I looked, this was EVE (the game that real life psychos look at as "a bit too harsh), not My Little pony online. HTFU already. You are everything wrong with Eve. Instead of trying to guide the players you tell them off.
Please biomass.
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Sky' Darkstar
Dark Star Operations.
15
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:40:00 -
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"Time to leave".
0/10.
In case this is real: Bye! -Sky' |

Sid Crash
15
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:43:00 -
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Anslo wrote:You are everything wrong with Eve. Instead of trying to guide the players you tell them off.
Please biomass.
If a 5 year old player still has to have his hand held and shown, in detail, where he could have gotten the information then it's pretty much a lost cause. And no amount of "hahha rofl, I have a life you know, I don't play 6 hours a day" by the OP is a valid excuse for the lack of "hmm, people seem to get ganked a lot, perhaps I should invest 5 minutes of time into checking the wiki or doing a search on the forum to find out how to avoid that stuff"
Dumbs will be dumbs, stop pandering to them. |

Magna Mortem
the noise a cow makes while mating
138
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:45:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:So, would it be wrong to petition CCP to remaned General Discussion to "i need some way to blame the game or other people for my own imcompetence" discussion?
If only there were these industrial style ships that couldn't scanned that people could train for to move valuable stuff....... Blockade Runners fit with cloak warping to 0 at each gate. Why didn't you just post that simple info instead of hiding it within a bunch of sarcastic remarks? DMC Why are you concerned about how I speak to a weak willed complainer who'd rather post a hissy fit than learn how to play a video game? Last time I looked, this was EVE (the game that real life psychos look at as "a bit too harsh), not My Little pony online. HTFU already. You are everything wrong with Eve. Instead of trying to guide the players you tell them off. Please biomass. And you are completely blind to the fact that this is just a troll thread. You are making it worse for everybody else.
Please biomass. |

Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
3
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:50:00 -
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Oh dear, don't think I've seen anything so hilarious in my life.
Oh yes, the last tard who posted on here.. |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2807
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:56:00 -
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Ganking risk estimation reads...
http://rifterlings.com/bounty/?u=y&sv=7000000&sc=600000000&bv=0&hp=7550&c=10
Quote:Suicidal. You are a flying pi+¦ata ready to be ganked by anyone. Good job.
Sounds like a personal problem to me. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4202
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:58:00 -
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Magna Mortem wrote:Anslo wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:So, would it be wrong to petition CCP to remaned General Discussion to "i need some way to blame the game or other people for my own imcompetence" discussion?
If only there were these industrial style ships that couldn't scanned that people could train for to move valuable stuff....... Blockade Runners fit with cloak warping to 0 at each gate. Why didn't you just post that simple info instead of hiding it within a bunch of sarcastic remarks? DMC Why are you concerned about how I speak to a weak willed complainer who'd rather post a hissy fit than learn how to play a video game? Last time I looked, this was EVE (the game that real life psychos look at as "a bit too harsh), not My Little pony online. HTFU already. You are everything wrong with Eve. Instead of trying to guide the players you tell them off. Please biomass. And you are completely blind to the fact that this is just a troll thread. You are making it worse for everybody else. Please biomass. Make me, nerd-alt.
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Sid Crash
19
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Posted - 2013.12.30 15:07:00 -
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That's an awesome site, could you make two versions please? One that's really easy to find and giving enough hints that it' obviously fake always answering "you'll be completely safe, please fly through Perimeter" and one only the smart people will click, giving the proper info.
PVP everywhere, even on helpful websites.
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Your T2 catalyst dps numbers are on the low side, 700 dps is attainable with all lvl 5. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4095
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Posted - 2013.12.30 16:41:00 -
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Anslo wrote: You are everything wrong with Eve. Instead of trying to guide the players you tell them off.
Please biomass.
And you are completely blind to the fact that this is just a troll thread. You are making it worse for everybody else.
Please biomass.[/quote] Make me, nerd-alt.[/quote]
He said while hiding behind an npc corp lol.
Sorry, i'm not the misfit here, it's you and your like (the Dinsdales and DMCs of the EVE world) and your warped sense of , i dunno, E- honor, that is the problem. Grown folks (and you shold be grown if you are playing this game) should be able to take their licks without posting ( in General Discussion no less) a whiney I quit thread when they do something stupid like put 500 mil worth of stuff in a ship that costs 1.2 mil and has less EHP than an anoerexic rifter.
Damn right they get told off, just like you did back when you posted the nonsense you did. (Space)Man up or gtfo.
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