You didnt fly any blaster boat right ? If yes show KB.. Coz you talking like shyittty noob.. Learn how to fly wtf ? You dont know too much about this game its history and why blaster sucks so hard right now ? Dont you ? Even CCP is saying that blaster are broken ! You Moron ...

I'll give one example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuf_JzAkq7E

Please reduce the fall-off and tracking of medium and large AC's. You don't have to nerf them into the ground, but make them not stupid. Having extreme fall off, extreme speed, extreme tracking, and higher than average DPS is not conducive to balance.

Thanks, I'll know you'll do the right thing.

I'll give one example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuf_JzAkq7E

In its current iteration, the Tornado is making a mockery of most other ships in the game, especially the other tier 3 BC's. It's kind of hilarious to me that large AC's can perfectly track and hit Vespa drones and inties . Sure, he had two webs, but still. Why would you introduce a cheap, faster and more agile Machariel into the game? But the problem is not necessarily the ship. AC's are simply off the wall.

Please reduce the fall-off and tracking of medium and large AC's. You don't have to nerf them into the ground, but make them not stupid. Having extreme fall off, extreme speed, extreme tracking, and higher than average DPS is not conducive to balance. It's really not that different from they days when people released a bunch of drones, and zipped around at 4km/s in their HACs.

Thanks, I'll know you'll do the right thing.

Yeah, they are broken... Tell me a ship that can do what Gods coldblood does with a vindi?

Yes, because a faction battleship with 50% more damage bonus than normal, an extra turret, 50% more EHP and a 90% web bonus is juuuuust like a regular blaster boat

there are 3 ways to fix blasters (and, by extension, hybrids as a whole):

A) make them behave like AC's

B) make blasters ships more mobile than matari ships (and a fair bit of damage added to them blasters too)

C) remove the entire hybrid weaponry from game, gallente now only use drones and caldari only use missiles. SP refund from hybrid skills removal.




A is bleh, B would divide the community, C is the easiest, and, as of late, considering how everybody is behaving about this, the best solution.

at the very least it would allow me to sigh and move on instead defending option B.

there are 3 ways to fix blasters (and, by extension, hybrids as a whole):

A) make them behave like AC's

B) make blasters ships more mobile than matari ships (and a fair bit of damage added to them blasters too)

C) remove the entire hybrid weaponry from game, gallente now only use drones and caldari only use missiles. SP refund from hybrid skills removal.




A is bleh, B would divide the community, C is the easiest, and, as of late, considering how everybody is behaving about this, the best solution.

at the very least it would allow me to sigh and move on instead defending option B.

As long as it's been proven to be plausible your point remains mute. If you didn't know, other factions have uber ships too and none can match the vindi except from the bhaal and it's debatable.
I doubt you even play this game. The vindi deals 50% more dps than a mega???? where did you drop from? homeworld?

A few nerf posts coming from you; first Tengu now AC's


So your going against your previous post; lasers, ac's, and missiles are balanced

To quote you..
"No matter how you buff these guns, they will always be inferior to pulses, AC's and missiles, which are balanced well."

Why would you want to nerf something that is in balance with two other systems.

AC's don't need to be nerfed. Blasters and blaster ships need to be buffed. I have faith CCP will continue to work on this until they release the winter expansion.

I know that hybrids can still fit in and I'll wait for the changes to be implemented on TQ before saying anything. CCP tallest said it himself that more buffs could be on the way depending on the feedback he gets from this patch.
It's all annoying when some random dude starts blabbing like nothing is being done

To Grimpak:

Option B) more mobile blaster ships with a fair bit of damage is the right answer for Hybrids. To hell with the dissenters.

-Liang

I know that, but do you see it happening in a perfect way, considering CCP's track record?

if any they will boost damage by 50%, make blaster ships 50% more faster and mobile than matari ships and boost optimals and falloffs by 500%.


which would be awesome but totally OP.

Honestly? Have you been reading the dev blogs lately? It seems to me that they've brought back some of the old guns that have lots of experience with Eve. They might actually pull it off in a pretty reasonable way.

-Liang

thanks for reading my material, appreciate it. allow me to address your concerns.

- im so happy that you have faith in CCP. i dont personally, given the last 3 years of ignoring FiS. i dont think there's anything wrong with giving suggestions when theyre struggling. ive put my (few) ideas out on the table, and now i wait to see what happens on SiSi.

Honestly? Have you been reading the dev blogs lately? It seems to me that they've brought back some of the old guns that have lots of experience with Eve. They might actually pull it off in a pretty reasonable way.

-Liang

Your Back?!?!

there are 3 ways to fix blasters (and, by extension, hybrids as a whole):

A) make them behave like AC's

B) make blasters ships more mobile than matari ships (and a fair bit of damage added to them blasters too)

C) remove the entire hybrid weaponry from game, gallente now only use drones and caldari only use missiles. SP refund from hybrid skills removal.

A) By this you mean extend their range? To be honest I find it amusing that the ranges on other races have been extended as they have and yet people turn purple when the subject comes up pertaining to blasters. Take Minmatar:

Before the projectile buff AC had one range for falloff. Afterwards, that falloff range was assigned to the lowest tier gun with a 10% stepup for every tier after that. So the 1600mm plate Ruppie stayed as is with it's dual 180s. The vaga's 220mm got a 10% falloff increase. The Cynabal's 425mm got a 20% falloff increase. Add a TE for a 30% increase that wasn't there before. If you add a second TE you get 25% - 26% increase on that one.... 50% for barrage.

To put it in perspective - the vagabond before the projectile buff had 23km of falloff. Now it gets 41km.

So to turn it around - why not? Increase blaster's optimal so it's a 50-50 mix with falloff. Push cruiser DPS out to 20 -25km so they can at least force a warp out.

B) I support more mobile Gallente as the way to go as well. Shortest weapon system = fastest ships.

I support the idea to nerf everything to the ground.

Make everything so terrible to fly that nobody will want to play the game and bam ... no more problems as the last person out shuts down the lights.

I just wanted to state the obvious. Blasters currently have better tracking than projectiles across the board so your point is ******* mute.