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sparx Thiesant
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:55:00 -
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To the goon who says there is no counter to carriers+sentrys bullsh#t bring your own but you scard of cap escalation becouse you claim n3+pl av more supers
You invaded and now cry coz your mega blob cnt beat this valid tactic and your trolls start crying for nurf
man up or go home bring your own caps and supers afta all isnt cfc ment to be the eve super power?
To op yes goons av become what they hated |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
2047
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:58:00 -
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Quote:To the goon who says there is no counter to carriers+sentrys bullsh#t bring your own
I'd like to point out that "get one yourself" or any variation thereof in defense of something is not a good way to claim that it's not overpowered. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
95
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:02:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Although i don't like goons very much i must admit that this whole drone assist is nothing more than bypassing and cheating basic principles of battle mechanic in EVE
Its just stupid that one small insta-locking frigate can control thousands of drones and bouncers and thus bypass lock time of carriers resulting in instapoping almost everything what loads on grid.
Drone assist needs to die. At least for sentry drones
A frigate eh? Seems to me that controlling drones is not a difficult thing (thousands of mechanical objects are controlled centrally everyday) but the necessary Command/Control requirements may not fit on a frigate. In other words, a dedicated ship built to handle such things would be more plausible. For example, a Command Ship. |

Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
106
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:04:00 -
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Has the Naglfar even been tried out yet? I havent read anything about that on the ususal news sites yet, neither the pro nor the anti-goon one. Or massed Megas, haven-¦t there been some talk that the 600+ Megas that CFC fieled in Fountain could beat it?
Slowcats are still a rather "new" thing (in the way they are used now, I know the mechanics are there for years) but it doesnt look like there has been happened much besides "domies dont work" and theorycrafting. At least, it hasnt reached the broader media yet.
Edit: Another counter, at least in the way its supposed to be, is "supercapitals kill capitals, while they are useless against subcaps". |

Mostlyharmlesss
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
106
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:07:00 -
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Please, someone tell me why this article is incorrect. 2 pages and a bunch of grr-goons but not a single argument to prove the article wrong. |

Kinis Deren
The Nyan Cat Pirates Disband.
256
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:14:00 -
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It is even worse than the OP makes out. Goons have literally become the laughing stock of New Eden with their whiney ass QQ'ing.
I sure hope CCP tells them to HTFU or GTFO.
Goontards, pro tip here: don't go sperging all over the forms and news sites - it makes you look even worse than the hi sec carebears you are so fond of insulting for doing the exact same thing you always do.
I can't even bring myself to do a 'grrr, goons' because I'm laughing so hard at their weakness. Into PVP & looking for small gang focused, NPC Null corp? Check out The Nyan Cat Pirates!
Corp CEO looking for an easy going, none sov, PVP alliance? Join Disband. today! |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4725
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:15:00 -
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Mostlyharmlesss wrote:Please, someone tell me why this article is incorrect. 2 pages and a bunch of grr-goons but not a single argument to prove the article wrong. Did you read my comment? . |

EI Digin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1648
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:18:00 -
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Never listen to anything DBRB has to say. Ever. No matter what. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8245
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:20:00 -
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EI Digin wrote:Never listen to anything DBRB has to say. Ever. No matter what. Unless he's telling you to log in and out and you happen to be in a dreadnought in his joint domi-dreadnought fleet disguised as a bomber fleet. My EVE Videos |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8245
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:20:00 -
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Tzar Sinak wrote:TharOkha wrote:Although i don't like goons very much i must admit that this whole drone assist is nothing more than bypassing and cheating basic principles of battle mechanic in EVE
Its just stupid that one small insta-locking frigate can control thousands of drones and bouncers and thus bypass lock time of carriers resulting in instapoping almost everything what loads on grid.
Drone assist needs to die. At least for sentry drones A frigate eh? Seems to me that controlling drones is not a difficult thing (thousands of mechanical objects are controlled centrally everyday) but the necessary Command/Control requirements may not fit on a frigate. In other words, a dedicated ship built to handle such things would be more plausible. For example, a Command Ship. Oh gee command ships, color me impressed. They must be really elite. My EVE Videos |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8246
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:24:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:It is even worse than the OP makes out. Goons have literally become the laughing stock of New Eden with their whiney ass QQ'ing.
I sure hope CCP tells them to HTFU or GTFO.
Goontards, pro tip here: don't go sperging all over the forms and news sites - it makes you look even worse than the hi sec carebears you are so fond of insulting for doing the exact same thing you always do.
I can't even bring myself to do a 'grrr, goons' because I'm laughing so hard at their weakness. I can't wait to laugh in your face when CCP proves that once again we were right. My EVE Videos |

Priestess Lin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:32:00 -
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Goon tears are always good. Typical they blame the game for their failures rather than adopt counters like everyone else has had to.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9972
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:33:00 -
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i suspect some people are going to sob into their archon shaped bodypillows when all is said and done Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
2048
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:35:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:Goon tears are always good. Typical they blame the game for their failures rather than adopt counters like everyone else has had to.
I ask this in all honesty, but what counters are there exactly to 300+ Archons?
I mean, if you tell them to just get more Archons that's tantamount to admitting that they're overpowered.
The only other real solution is massively blobbing the Archons, which can't happen due to node constrictions.
So please, what counters? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9972
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:37:00 -
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because surprise surprise the idea of a single person having direct control over the DPS/alpha of 255 other ships ticks all of the boxes of "this is a ridiculous mechanic"
you're free to try to refute that with weaksauce/stupid/wrong arguments Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9972
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:39:00 -
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you see the usual way you deal with a lot of incoming DPS is to broadcast for reps and overheat hardeners when you're being yellowboxed
that doesn't really work when one single ship is the trigger for an entire fleet's DPS and that single ship is using a passive targeter Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Cale Nolen
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:39:00 -
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how about we nerf the corps/alliances instead? |

Higgs Foton
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:41:00 -
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Best solution would be that CCP gives ME (i am very responsible capsuleer) a fully functional DEATHSTAR with a huge doomsday weapon with can do about 1.000.000.000 dps with an AOE of 100 km and 100.000.000.000.000 hitpoints and a huge picture of Tweety on the hull. Then i will procede to destroy the entire archon fleet of N3 with the thing. I hope that the sensing of the disturbance in the force doesn't crash the node. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9972
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:44:00 -
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anyway i'm sure some mouthbreather posting with a forum alt will suggest that there was never any discussion about drone assist before the southern war because we totally haven't been abusing the hell out of drone assist to draw attention to it as a dumb mechanic since long before this war Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8246
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:47:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:Goon tears are always good. Typical they blame the game for their failures rather than adopt counters like everyone else has had to.
I'd sure like to hear what you think is a good counter for 400+ slowcats. My EVE Videos |

Priestess Lin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Priestess Lin wrote:Goon tears are always good. Typical they blame the game for their failures rather than adopt counters like everyone else has had to.
I'd sure like to hear what you think is a good counter for 400+ slowcats.
Aren't you supposed to be training Nagflars or something? Your great leaders orders. Or was he drunk that time too?  |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9976
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:56:00 -
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i like the passive-aggressive snipes from mouthbreathing NPC alts who think they're contributing to the discussion Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Jim Era
7747
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:56:00 -
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Amarr #1 |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8246
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:58:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:Aren't you supposed to be training Nagflars or something? Your great leaders orders. Or was he drunk that time too?  JDO 5 in queue. But having a counter doesn't automatically make something balanced. My EVE Videos |

Priestess Lin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:00:00 -
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Andski wrote:i like the passive-aggressive snipes from mouthbreathing NPC alts who think they're contributing to the discussion
sorry, I don't have an enormous bandwagon corp to hide behind, nor the patience to deal with the kids who hop onto it that will undoubtedly use locator agents to avenge their butt-hurt. Truth hurts.
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Logical 101
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
245
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:02:00 -
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Andski wrote:i like the passive-aggressive snipes from mouthbreathing NPC alts who think they're contributing to the discussion Your significant contributions... are noted. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8246
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:04:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:Andski wrote:i like the passive-aggressive snipes from mouthbreathing NPC alts who think they're contributing to the discussion sorry, I don't have an enormous bandwagon corp to hide behind, nor the patience to deal with the kids who hop onto it that will undoubtedly use locator agents to avenge their butt-hurt. Truth hurts. So basically the only thing you have is talk. My EVE Videos |

Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
206
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:06:00 -
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Wait, wat? I thought the goons were considered cool. Is this not the case? |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
846
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:14:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:Andski wrote:i like the passive-aggressive snipes from mouthbreathing NPC alts who think they're contributing to the discussion sorry, I don't have an enormous bandwagon corp to hide behind, nor the patience to deal with the kids who hop onto it that will undoubtedly use locator agents to avenge their butt-hurt. Truth hurts. That doesn't actually happen. |

Cale Nolen
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:18:00 -
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quick question from newb
why doesnt CCP limit/cap how many type of a specific ship a fleet can have? |
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