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DRGaius Baltar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:48:00 -
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CCP you are our only HOPE!
TLDR, Goons literally needs CCP's help to continue "winning EVE"
"Can't figure out a strategy against one ship doctrine"?
Answer: "nerf it" "it's not fair!"
Is this what the future holds for the rest of us that believe in real strategy and theorycrafting? "Nerf it because I can't win fast enough"
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Priestess Lin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:50:00 -
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Of course they have, look at the clowns who comprise them. Its the biggest bandwagon in EVE history. And their leader makes excellent laughing stock. |
Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
119
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:51:00 -
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DRGaius Baltar wrote:CCP you are our only HOPE!TLDR, Goons literally needs CCP's help to continue "winning EVE" "Can't figure out a strategy against one ship doctrine"? Answer: "nerf it" "it's not fair!" Is this what the future holds for the rest of us that believe in real strategy and theorycrafting? "Nerf it because I can't win fast enough"
Possibly, but at the same time that article does make some rather valid points. |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
209
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:54:00 -
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Ambassador Crane wrote:DRGaius Baltar wrote:CCP you are our only HOPE!TLDR, Goons literally needs CCP's help to continue "winning EVE" "Can't figure out a strategy against one ship doctrine"? Answer: "nerf it" "it's not fair!" Is this what the future holds for the rest of us that believe in real strategy and theorycrafting? "Nerf it because I can't win fast enough" Possibly, but at the same time that article does make some rather valid points.
then why are his numbers all completely wrong even down to the ship costs?
lol |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
9022
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:54:00 -
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Thank you faceless NPC corp forum alt for this public service announcement.
Now back to our regularly scheduled program, already in progress.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
1552
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:55:00 -
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Yes...
/thread
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Logical 101
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
241
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:55:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:And their leader makes excellent laughing stock
But he's thinner and more personable than the last few.
If Remedial were still here, we'd be discussing all the different ways we can eat ham.
Spoiler: "With our mouths" would still lead in the polls. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
1026
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:05:00 -
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Yes
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2458
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:15:00 -
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If you replace "Balled archons are nigh on indestructible and have no effective counter, CCP fix plz" with "AOE doomsdays are nigh on indestructible and have no effective counter, CCP fix plz" then I think you'll find we're on the same side as we've always been.
I guess that makes N3 BoB, then, given they've seemingly fallen back on "scream about proposed fixes that would take away our OP toys on forum alts".
I mean maybe its just me, but don't a lot of those corp names look familiar??
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
stoicfaux
3805
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:26:00 -
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*chuckle* Numbers and stats galore, but not one mention of the drone delegation problem. Translation: CCP isn't going to "fix" drone delegation, instead let's get Someone's entire fleet of Archons nerfed. Now *that* is a cost effective way of countering an enemy's cost advantage.
WASABI: -áWarp Speed Module
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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
634
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:31:00 -
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Quote:Have Goons become the very thing they hated?? (i.e. BoB)
To a degree, that's inevitable. The position they hold carries some inescapable social and organizational frieght. They are victims of their own success. Best thing for the Goons to have happen would be for a 'New Goons' to arise. Unfortunately, Goons are so hyper-dominant that it's *very* difficult for such to happen; I'm not even sure what or how many conditions would need to change to let such a boon appear.
CCP, debuff Barges, or buff Ganking. Either will do for me, but we need more Yaaar! in this game lest it become WoW in Spaaaaace!
-á~ Me |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
9027
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:35:00 -
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You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
...aaaand since every tactic successfully used against the goons for some reason soon gets hit with a nerf bat.....
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1357
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:40:00 -
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Ambassador Crane wrote:
Possibly, but at the same time that article does make some rather valid points.
5 year old mechanics are suddenly a problem because Goons can't beat them. 
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18813
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:42:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:*chuckle* Numbers and stats galore, but not one mention of the drone delegation problem. Funnily enough, if they changed it so that drone assist worked like drone delegation, a large part of that problem would vanish.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8240
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:45:00 -
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Too bad DBRB is right.
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TharOkha
0asis Group
733
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:48:00 -
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Although i don't like goons very much i must admit that this whole drone assist is nothing more than bypassing and cheating basic principles of battle mechanic in EVE
Its just stupid that one small insta-locking frigate can control thousands of drones and bouncers and thus bypass lock time of carriers resulting in instapoping almost everything what loads on grid.
Drone assist needs to die. At least for sentry drones
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8240
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:50:00 -
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"Guys, remote AOE doomsday is overpowered."
"LOLGOONTEARSLOLRISKAVERSEROFLCRYBABIESGB2WOWPANDASLOL"
My EVE Videos |
Logical 101
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
244
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Too bad DBRB is right.
I don't believe anyone here is so stupid as to actually believe that slowcats are balanced. They're either the ones currently using them and are being intentionally dishonest in order to convince people they're fine, or they're random pubbies who don't have anything intelligent to contribute and think they're being clever.
You have to admit, you're no longer as free from whine as you were during the days of Tau Ceti. |
Mortimer Civeri
Northern Freight Unlimited
Clockwork Pineapple
500
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:00:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Ambassador Crane wrote:
Possibly, but at the same time that article does make some rather valid points.
5 year old mechanics are suddenly a problem because Goons can't beat them.
5 year old mechanics aren't the problem, it's players/alliances now rich enough to take advantage and abuse them to their fullest. It used to be that fleet fights with 100 battleships were particularly newsworthy for a null fight, now 100 capitals are a small tiff not even worth mentioning.
"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8242
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:00:00 -
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Logical 101 wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Too bad DBRB is right.
I don't believe anyone here is so stupid as to actually believe that slowcats are balanced. They're either the ones currently using them and are being intentionally dishonest in order to convince people they're fine, or they're random pubbies who don't have anything intelligent to contribute and think they're being clever. You have to admit, you're no longer as free from whine as you were during the days of Tau Ceti.
Be nice if people checked my character before they ask me about things that were before my time.
My EVE Videos |
Sean Apollo
Rokh You like a Hurricane
Nomads.
15
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:13:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Although i don't like goons very much i must admit that this whole drone assist is nothing more than bypassing and cheating basic principles of battle mechanic in EVE
Its just stupid that one small insta-locking frigate can control thousands of drones and bouncers and thus bypass lock time of carriers resulting in instapoping almost everything what loads on grid.
Drone assist needs to die. At least for sentry drones
That post was not on Drone assist (which i agree is broken) It's on Carriers... Which CFC has been right behind the drone assist and other groups have been using it with Carriers and not BS so of course CFC is gonna cry. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
9972
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:19:00 -
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Yes look at all of these ex-BoB corps in Goonswarm:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Evolution
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Destructive_Influence
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/FinFleet
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Reikoku
Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
590
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:22:00 -
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Sean Apollo wrote:TharOkha wrote:Although i don't like goons very much i must admit that this whole drone assist is nothing more than bypassing and cheating basic principles of battle mechanic in EVE
Its just stupid that one small insta-locking frigate can control thousands of drones and bouncers and thus bypass lock time of carriers resulting in instapoping almost everything what loads on grid.
Drone assist needs to die. At least for sentry drones That post was not on Drone assist (which i agree is broken) It's on Carriers... Which CFC has been right behind the drone assist and other groups have been using it with Carriers and not BS so of course CFC is gonna cry.
Like we cried for a nerf to Technetium when we had none...oh wait!
We can see when something is out of whack, and yell at CCP to change it. It doesn't mean, we are not going to abuse the hell out of it, till they do. 
"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves."
The Trial - Franz Kafka-á |
Sean Apollo
Rokh You like a Hurricane
Nomads.
15
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:26:00 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:Sean Apollo wrote:TharOkha wrote:Although i don't like goons very much i must admit that this whole drone assist is nothing more than bypassing and cheating basic principles of battle mechanic in EVE
Its just stupid that one small insta-locking frigate can control thousands of drones and bouncers and thus bypass lock time of carriers resulting in instapoping almost everything what loads on grid.
Drone assist needs to die. At least for sentry drones That post was not on Drone assist (which i agree is broken) It's on Carriers... Which CFC has been right behind the drone assist and other groups have been using it with Carriers and not BS so of course CFC is gonna cry. Like we cried for a nerf to Technetium when we had none...oh wait! We can see when something is out of whack, and yell at CCP to change it. It doesn't mean, we are not going to abuse the hell out of it, till they do.
It's funny because you guys cry when anyone else does |
Aiwha
Infinite Point
Nulli Secunda
683
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:32:00 -
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If CCP nerfs Archons into uselessness, we'll trot out our next concept to beat goons till they whine enough to get that nerfed.
We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Logical 101
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
244
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:39:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Be nice if people checked my character before they ask me about things that were before my time.
So you know nothing about the humble origins of the now vast, lurching alliance?
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Lykouleon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1262
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:41:00 -
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grr me
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8244
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:49:00 -
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Logical 101 wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Be nice if people checked my character before they ask me about things that were before my time. So you know nothing about the humble origins of the now vast, lurching alliance?
Some, not much. It's a vast and complex subject. I'm not an EVE historian nor do I care to be.
Keep in mind my corp has only been in GSF for four months.
My EVE Videos |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8244
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:51:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:If CCP nerfs Archons into uselessness, we'll trot out our next concept to beat goons till they whine enough to get that nerfed.
I thought Archons were your only line of defense.
I'm pretty sure you or someone else has insisted as much.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy
The ROC
2047
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Posted - 2014.01.09 22:53:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:If CCP nerfs Archons into uselessness, we'll trot out our next concept to beat goons till they whine enough to get that nerfed.
Out of genuine curiousity, what would that be?
I was fairly sure you guys pretty much never win subcapital fights. It was my understanding that it was your "300", so to speak, of Archons that was keeping you guys in existence at all.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
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