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thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:49:00 - [1] Edited by: thedragoon on 23/03/2006 15:53:51 as some of you may have noticed Shadow,Penetrate,Dofa Have Joined forces over the last 3 weeks many have died. We are under constant attack from many faction's 1, NORAD 2, Goon Fleet 3, Some Five corps 4, CCP The results have been Staggering even for me to come to terms with. Our combined kills in the last 2 weeks have been over 1200 with over 170 battleships killed by allied forces Exact numbers are hard to pinpoint our losses come to very little with less than 10 battleships killed in fleet action Yesterday we engaged 100 man blob with 20 pilots the invaded our base system the results 35 hostiles killed before they ran our losses 3 battleships a short movie to follow of yesterdays events. Penetrate and allies Rule Supream
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:50:00 - [2] For numbers that are 'hard to pinpoint', you seem to be pretty sure of your statistics.
Zorlag	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:52:00 - [3] Well to be totally fair those 3 losses were battleships whereas we only lost frigates and cruisers. Fun fight though.
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:52:00 - [4] Edited by: Fi T''Zeh on 23/03/2006 15:52:11 Second in a BE thread... damn you RF links broken =[ .... Real men use blasters
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:55:00 - [5] Originally by: Zorlag Well to be totally fair those 3 losses were battleships whereas we only lost frigates and cruisers. Fun fight though. thats not correct our killboard show at least 3 battleships taken from your forces, look at mr Cues scanner and watch the pods in the movie
Chode Rizoum	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:57:00 - [6] 170 bs kills in 2 weeks. is nice. whats the link to your kb ?
MrCue	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:01:00 - [7] Edited by: MrCue on 23/03/2006 16:01:13 Originally by: Chode Rizoum 170 bs kills in 2 weeks. is nice. whats the link to your kb ? We use Battleclinic.com Killmail Database
Zorlag	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:01:00 - [8] Edited by: Zorlag on 23/03/2006 16:01:51 Edited by: Zorlag on 23/03/2006 16:01:21 I am aware we lost one battleship, but that wasn't from the "real" fight though. I'm referring to the blobfight. Also check out videos and Yeep's thread, has some feeds from our fight.
Wakokai	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:02:00 - [9] Love the way you said that goons ran, Its was more of a case that your forces warped out, your forces had to keep moving safespots as scared of being probed and it was your forces that left the system first.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:05:00 - [10] Originally by: Wakokai Love the way you said that goons ran, Its was more of a case that your forces warped out, your forces had to keep moving safespots as scared of being probed and it was your forces that left the system first. i think you can see after we re-grouped we warped from gatge to gate looking for your forces they were safespotted up at i choose a Bs heavey fleet we did not have the support there due to your sheer numbers so i jumped out of that system and we setup your forces then ran home and we went back to base and killed ivol.... K thanks Tempest-- lone gank just before the rest of u jumped in. Scorp Raven killed in blob fight and many other ships.
Ohmite	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:07:00 - [11] We have also had some battles with you, while most have been fun at the time it is dissapointing to see many of your raven pilots fitting the Burn Eden tactic of all WCS stabs across the bottom. Yes it is is a valid tactic and is effective, just a bit disspointing to see you saying how well you are doing and making out you are good PVPers which some of you certainly are but then having to resort to the lame tactics of a full rack of WCS, if you want to fight then fight not fit for retreat - Just seems abit hypocritical thats all
Ziyi Zhang	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:09:00 - [12] Damnit, from the title I had assumed this to be a thread about the seminal 1980's pop song by Glenn Frey, as used in the classic movie Beverley Hills Cop. Instead it is a thread in which someone tells us the startling news that a well organised squad of sniping stabbed up BS can kill more enemy ships than it loses. I feel cheated.
Zorlag	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:09:00 - [13] Originally by: thedragoon Tempest-- lone gank just before the rest of u jumped in. Scorp Raven killed in blob fight and many other ships. Yeah Tempest for sure, havn't heard anything of a raven and scorp.
Yeep	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:10:00 - [14] Edited by: Yeep on 23/03/2006 16:12:18 Edited by: Yeep on 23/03/2006 16:10:23 I hear that when a hostile fleet has two covops actively probing for you they are probably looking for another fight. The scorp was killed in another system way before the fleet engagement. The tempest pilot is an idiot and thought he would run home ahead of the fleet because he was fed up and bored. And don't get me started on how your fleet commander pleaded with ours to be let into system so you could engage in a "fair" fight.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:19:00 - [15] Edited by: thedragoon on 23/03/2006 16:20:41 Originally by: Yeep Edited by: Yeep on 23/03/2006 16:12:18 Edited by: Yeep on 23/03/2006 16:10:23 I hear that when a hostile fleet has two covops actively probing for you they are probably looking for another fight. The scorp was killed in another system way before the fleet engagement. The tempest pilot is an idiot and thought he would run home ahead of the fleet because he was fed up and bored. And don't get me started on how your fleet commander pleaded with ours to be let into system so you could engage in a "fair" fight. how you ever expected me to enter into a loag fest jumping into your 100 man gang with 20 pilots i dont know... As it happens we came round the back way and killed you fleet either way good fight and may there be more. you can not deny that we had balls to engage that while most others would sit back and watch u pass. **eduit why were u sat in a safe spot if you wanted a fight after we killed and podded 30 of u it was clear u had had enough when we sat in the next system for 20 mins waiting for you. IMO you were scared.
Voltron	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:20:00 - [16] Originally by: Yeep Edited by: Yeep on 23/03/2006 16:12:18 Edited by: Yeep on 23/03/2006 16:10:23 I hear that when a hostile fleet has two covops actively probing for you they are probably looking for another fight. The scorp was killed in another system way before the fleet engagement. The tempest pilot is an idiot and thought he would run home ahead of the fleet because he was fed up and bored. And don't get me started on how your fleet commander pleaded with ours to be let into system so you could engage in a "fair" fight. Nothing wrong with asking to be let in for a fight IMO.....goon usually have umpteen frigs/cruisers laggin the hell out of gates, so if they asked to be let in for a fight.......and you truly wanted a fight and not a lag gank, then there shouldn't be a problem there should there be? It's fine if a lag gank is what you wanted, tactics are tactics and everyone is allowed to defend themselves as they see fit. Volt Chuck Norris is far too over-hyped......Dan Akroyd FTW.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:23:00 - [17] Originally by: Ohmite We have also had some battles with you, while most have been fun at the time it is dissapointing to see many of your raven pilots fitting the Burn Eden tactic of all WCS stabs across the bottom. Yes it is is a valid tactic and is effective, just a bit disspointing to see you saying how well you are doing and making out you are good PVPers which some of you certainly are but then having to resort to the lame tactics of a full rack of WCS, if you want to fight then fight not fit for retreat - Just seems abit hypocritical thats all Hmmm TBH we DONT need to fit stabbs but when we are fighting the numbers we are if i call for the fleet to get out i want to make sure that they get out..... with the other stuff that i want fitted on the ships in my fleet there is simply not anything els that can be fitted in the low slots sorry to dissapoint but bringing 100 men to fight 20 IMO is far worse than anyone fitting stabbs eh?
Na'Kota	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:24:00 - [18] Well it was more like "umpteen" Battleships and a Capital ship waiting for them but yeah, you guys keep clinging to this - "Goonfleet only wins because they lag people out" defense you have going, maybe if enough of you repeat it it'll seem a little less pathetic.
Zorlag	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:25:00 - [19] Originally by: thedragoon either way good fight and may there be more. This is all that matters really.
Tarnish Katharr	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:25:00 - [20] I would like to request that you post what those 35 kills were.
Tarnish Katharr	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:27:00 - [21] Originally by: Zorlag This is all that matters really. Quoted for truth. It was a ball.
Legomaan	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:28:00 - [22] Edited by: Legomaan on 23/03/2006 16:29:03 screw it
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:28:00 - [23] Originally by: Na'Kota Well it was more like "umpteen" Battleships and a Capital ship waiting for them but yeah, you guys keep clinging to this - "Goonfleet only wins because they lag people out" defense you have going, maybe if enough of you repeat it it'll seem a little less pathetic. I never said that and also goonfleet never won anything,,,, I think the fact that we have killed so many, Is the real reason you show up with force to try to deter us from killing you as much all that happened is we ripped your fleet apart and they hid in safe spot and refused to jump to us...... I never jumped my fleet into your 100 man gate camp with drones i asked to be let in so we could fight you but i was denied that, so we went round the otherway so we did not get lag killed,,,,, and finished u off there. K thanks goon Out
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:29:00 - [24] Originally by: Tarnish Katharr I would like to request that you post what those 35 kills were. Yes i will get the stats for you i know many have not yet posted there kills including me as it was late and i needed sleep but by the end of downtime 2morrow i will get the exact stats for you if poss./
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:31:00 - [25] No offence or anything, but that movie sucked. Watching 20 BS simultaneously try to gank a hauler/cruiser/frigate/capsule is ******* boring. The fleet part was alright though.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:32:00 - [26] Originally by: Legomaan Edited by: Legomaan on 23/03/2006 16:29:03 screw it I have to say i think you are missing the BIGGER PICTURE. I asked to be let through the gate with my 20 pilots that you were sat on with 100+ to get them to a spot where we would not be lag killed it is common that fleet jumping in is at disadvantage with lag. I mean come on u were not there for a fight you would have thought that you were at the advantage with 100+ gang vs's 20 right? Or am i missing somthing
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:35:00 - [27] Originally by: Elve Sorrow No offence or anything, but that movie sucked. Watching 20 BS simultaneously try to gank a hauler/cruiser/frigate/capsule is ******* boring. The fleet part was alright though. Agreed but that was stuff we killed with the fleet that we had gathered while moving to engage the huge blob it was not really that edited and Mr cue frap's every day and puts it up for the members that are in our co-op to see more than eve public....... i thought it would be better to see what was going on as well as me post about it... Did you notice local dropping like by 20 as we were podding them HAHA :))
Yeep	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:36:00 - [28] Yes, the point you are missing is that never, since we have started fighting you, have you ever shown any wish to engage in a fair fight. Letting you into your home system where you can warp in and out on our fleets (yes, we were split between the two gates and there was no lag in system at all, props to ccp for that) at 200km with zero risk as your pilots already in system had been doing would have been a monumentally stupid move on our part.
danneh	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:38:00 - [29] Originally by: Ohmite We have also had some battles with you, while most have been fun at the time it is dissapointing to see many of your raven pilots fitting the Burn Eden tactic of all WCS stabs across the bottom. Yes it is is a valid tactic and is effective, just a bit disspointing to see you saying how well you are doing and making out you are good PVPers which some of you certainly are but then having to resort to the lame tactics of a full rack of WCS, if you want to fight then fight not fit for retreat - Just seems abit hypocritical thats all Interdictor, and they are sheep to the slaughter ;)
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:44:00 - [30] Originally by: danneh Originally by: Ohmite We have also had some battles with you, while most have been fun at the time it is dissapointing to see many of your raven pilots fitting the Burn Eden tactic of all WCS stabs across the bottom. Yes it is is a valid tactic and is effective, just a bit disspointing to see you saying how well you are doing and making out you are good PVPers which some of you certainly are but then having to resort to the lame tactics of a full rack of WCS, if you want to fight then fight not fit for retreat - Just seems abit hypocritical thats all Interdictor, and they are sheep to the slaughter ;) you would think they could work that out for them selves right BTW i never got chace to say good fight for that one so GF
Warlord2004	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:49:00 - [31] Originally by: Yeep Yes, the point you are missing is that never, since we have started fighting you, have you ever shown any wish to engage in a fair fight. Letting you into your home system where you can warp in and out on our fleets (yes, we were split between the two gates and there was no lag in system at all, props to ccp for that) at 200km with zero risk as your pilots already in system had been doing would have been a monumentally stupid move on our part. Oh... so you mean we don't fight the way you want us to fight therefore we're not playing fair.... Jeez.. get over it and adapt.. perhaps you might want to consider ways you could overcome our tactics instead of whining that we dont stand toe to toe in a boring who has the most ships slugfest
Voltron	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:53:00 - [32] Originally by: Na'Kota Well it was more like "umpteen" Battleships and a Capital ship waiting for them but yeah, you guys keep clinging to this - "Goonfleet only wins because they lag people out" defense you have going, maybe if enough of you repeat it it'll seem a little less pathetic. Show me a battle you've won where it wasn't due to numbers and son I'll stop saying it . Scout's honor...............on a sidenote I've never complained about it, you have mass #'s so use them (tbh most ppl including me would in your case), but it's silly of you to claim uberness when you consistenly engage with 5X the numbers. Granted most of your members are new, and its good that you're getting them involved the way you do, still at the moment it's numbers/lag that wins goonfleet fights (as I said, everyone has the right to defend themselves as they see fit). Volt Chuck Norris is far too over-hyped......Dan Akroyd FTW.
danneh	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:53:00 - [33] Originally by: thedragoon BTW i never got chace to say good fight for that one so GF Yea it was fun, i was suprised with no smack after everything ive read on these forums
Legomaan	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:54:00 - [34] Edited by: Legomaan on 23/03/2006 16:55:06 Edited by: Legomaan on 23/03/2006 16:54:51 Originally by: Warlord2004 Oh... so you mean we don't fight the way you want us to fight therefore we're not playing fair.... Er, you may want to ask yourself that question first, since we were there, waiting for a fight, and you complained about a "agfest frigate blob", when plenty of other corps have engaged our "frigate blobs" and managed to not cry about it. I'll take a fine, at this point I don't care.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:56:00 - [35] Again, BURN EDEN corporation has nothing to do with this. A few of those guys are ex-BE and many of them have been friends with us for a long time.
Kalashi	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:10:00 - [36] To any of the Alts posting and questioning the BS kills last night... WATCH THE VIDEO You see the Battleships go into structure. They then POP and the pod's go next. Oh... For the Goonfleet alts posting about Warp Corp. Stabs...funny how your frigates kill mails were fitting 1 Stab each
Mordocik	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:11:00 - [37] Perhaps someone from Goonfleet would care to explain what your actual objective was yesterday, as I for one don't understand. You came to PF, and closed it down by bubbling both gates and having 50+ people on each. Fine, classic system shutdown well done. You then get a carrier in ... and procede to do NOTHING for some hours while we are trying to get a fleet together to fight you. We get a fleet together which is actually LESS then 20 for most of the time and start to assess the best way to fight you. We ask if you want to let us in to fight you, after all if you were there for a fight it should be apparent that we are NOT going to jump into a double bubbled gate with >20 to fight >130 in PF. You mock us for the suggestion, thats fine, but what do you procede to do? Nothing. You sit there for another hour while a couple of us (I managed to get past your gate camp) snipe at you and lure your (I hope) worse pilots into our POS and kill ~8 or so. Now you get really bored and leave and walk into our fleet that has setup to kil your en route, note still giving you odds of well over 3:1. So explain to me what the point of locking PF down was. You did attack the POS, and you didn't want to fight us. Just a show of force? If so consider myself for one very unimpressed.
Ziyi Zhang	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:11:00 - [38] Originally by: danneh Originally by: Ohmite We have also had some battles with you, while most have been fun at the time it is dissapointing to see many of your raven pilots fitting the Burn Eden tactic of all WCS stabs across the bottom. Yes it is is a valid tactic and is effective, just a bit disspointing to see you saying how well you are doing and making out you are good PVPers which some of you certainly are but then having to resort to the lame tactics of a full rack of WCS, if you want to fight then fight not fit for retreat - Just seems abit hypocritical thats all Interdictor, and they are sheep to the slaughter ;) Except: (i) chances are the interdictor would get instapopped so could probably fire 1 bubble at best, (ii) the BS will all be moving and likely have MWD on so it would take very little time for them to get out of range of the bubble so as to be able to warp. (iii) if you didnt have enough BS present to be able to take them out very very quickly then you would require at least 3 or 4 interceptors to tackle each BS as they are loaded with stabs, in the time it would take them to get out to the BS how many do you think would get popped by precision cruise missiles or when they got there, T2 med drones? (iv) they arrive and start scrambling the BS, with more and more of them getting picked off by cruise missiles and drones all the time. (v) if you did have enough BS to be able to instapop them chances are they would not engage you in the first place. So at the end of it you hae lost an interdictor, half a dozen ceptors plus a few more of your main ships to maybe, maybe take down 1 hostile BS. Why not just to the sensible thing and refuse to engage them at all?
Zorlag	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:18:00 - [39] That is classified.
Baconjoe	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:19:00 - [40] Originally by: thedragoon Originally by: Ohmite We have also had some battles with you, while most have been fun at the time it is dissapointing to see many of your raven pilots fitting the Burn Eden tactic of all WCS stabs across the bottom. Yes it is is a valid tactic and is effective, just a bit disspointing to see you saying how well you are doing and making out you are good PVPers which some of you certainly are but then having to resort to the lame tactics of a full rack of WCS, if you want to fight then fight not fit for retreat - Just seems abit hypocritical thats all Hmmm TBH we DONT need to fit stabbs but when we are fighting the numbers we are if i call for the fleet to get out i want to make sure that they get out..... with the other stuff that i want fitted on the ships in my fleet there is simply not anything els that can be fitted in the low slots sorry to dissapoint but bringing 100 men to fight 20 IMO is far worse than anyone fitting stabbs eh? _______________________________________________ NO We are cursed men
Midgen	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:23:00 - [41] Edited by: Midgen on 23/03/2006 17:23:26 nice
Wrok	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:24:00 - [42] back when the five was atuk shinra and the rest of the original gang we had 50bs kills in 1 day...fun days they were... so 170 is sad for 2 WEEKS....
Dwayne	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:26:00 - [43] My nutz itch, and is this burning sensation normal???
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:34:00 - [44] Originally by: Wrok back when the five was atuk shinra and the rest of the original gang we had 50bs kills in 1 day...fun days they were... so 170 is sad for 2 WEEKS.... and was that when you first began fighting together?
Cummilla	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:36:00 - [45] I boldy predict a goon fleet zergWinzzoR vs. EX-BE chilluns. You heard it hear first!
Trinity Trixx	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:37:00 - [46] Originally by: Ohmite We have also had some battles with you, while most have been fun at the time it is dissapointing to see many of your raven pilots fitting the Burn Eden tactic of all WCS stabs across the bottom. Yes it is is a valid tactic and is effective, just a bit disspointing to see you saying how well you are doing and making out you are good PVPers which some of you certainly are but then having to resort to the lame tactics of a full rack of WCS, if you want to fight then fight not fit for retreat - Just seems abit hypocritical thats all It's really quite simple - don't make it more complicated than it is. Let me explain it to you militarily and perhaps you'll understand. You get fired upon in battle and you're firing back. You take shots and are wounded. You fall back to let others go ahead who are not injured. You get medical treatment onsite. Patched up, you now determine you can re-enter battle. You fall in behind those who took over your spot. When they are injured, they fall back and you resume your original position. And so it continues. See? Simple really. Not lame. Simple. Get it? Good. Good fight GoonFleet. Wish I could have stayed around longer to watch, my lag (not CCP's) froze me up so badly I had to relog much to the disappointment of myself and two friends who were watching their first large engagment. Hope to do it again when my 'puter is running better! Dissappointing? -- 'Though this be madness, yet there is method in 't.' W.S. "Hamlet"
Xachar	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:46:00 - [47] Edited by: Xachar on 23/03/2006 17:47:58 Originally by: Mordocik Perhaps someone from Goonfleet would care to explain what your actual objective was yesterday, as I for one don't understand. You came to PF, and closed it down by bubbling both gates and having 50+ people on each. Fine, classic system shutdown well done. You then get a carrier in ... and procede to do NOTHING for some hours while we are trying to get a fleet together to fight you. We get a fleet together which is actually LESS then 20 for most of the time and start to assess the best way to fight you. We ask if you want to let us in to fight you, after all if you were there for a fight it should be apparent that we are NOT going to jump into a double bubbled gate with >20 to fight >130 in PF. You mock us for the suggestion, thats fine, but what do you procede to do? Nothing. You sit there for another hour while a couple of us (I managed to get past your gate camp) snipe at you and lure your (I hope) worse pilots into our POS and kill ~8 or so. Now you get really bored and leave and walk into our fleet that has setup to kil your en route, note still giving you odds of well over 3:1. So explain to me what the point of locking PF down was. You did attack the POS, and you didn't want to fight us. Just a show of force? If so consider myself for one very unimpressed. You better wish Goonfleet never does a 'Show of force', if we can get up a 100 man gang on spur of the moment, I shudder (with joy) to think how big the gang would get on a planned engagement at goon prime time. You could have killed the entire fleet and we wouldn't raise an eyebrow. That night there where over 250 people in our rudimentry corp channel, some of our best tactitians even opted out due to apathy. As to why we were in your system, that's up to the directors to answer. Of course goonfleet uses greater numbers, anyone who doesnt take every advantage they can get is a terrible pilot. Honour be damned, fill your low slots with stabs and take on people 10 to 1, I don't think you'd find mention of any armies not attempting to overwhelm with superior numbers or terrain advantage in history. All that matters is winning, not looking good while doing it. These are my own opinions and do not represent the corps own, I apologise if I offended any one in any way. It was a good fight and both sides fought well, it was good experiance for our newbies which may one day perhaps be able to rival penetrate's pod pilots blow for blow.
Nafri	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:46:00 - [48] Originally by: Wrok back when the five was atuk shinra and the rest of the original gang we had 50bs kills in 1 day...fun days they were... so 170 is sad for 2 WEEKS.... but you arent 20 people
Triest	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:47:00 - [49] The reasons for our being there, as we stated above, are currently classified. As for our engagement, it was a pretty good fight. You did a good job killing our tackling frigates and cruisers, and were positioned in such a way that our battleships weren't able to easily engage you with the interdictor bubble on the gate. Had we not let you set the stage, as it were, the battle would likely have been more in our favor. As it was, while we did have significant losses, the overall monetary losses are probably comparable between our two forces, with the exception of our t2 tempest loss which was the result of poor decisionmaking by one pilot. Your initial post is rather inflated, however. 'Constant attack' by goonfleet is probably something of an overestimate, since we've had a total of one fleet action which spanned a few hours; As for us running away, you were the ones who left the system after reinforcing, not us. Anyway, a decent fight, but I'm not sure why you feel compelled to turn it into some sort of propaganda, but I suppose that's your prerogative.
Ziyi Zhang	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:11:00 - [50] Give the public what they want - BE vs Penetrate Imagine it - fleets of stabbed out ravens warping in and out of a gate all night long - bliss
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:52:00 - [51] best. idea. ever. but OMG imagine the forum w***age that would follow. Might even rival the bob wh()ring division .... Real men use blasters
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:56:00 - [52] Originally by: Fi T'Zeh but OMG imagine the forum w*age that would follow. Might even rival the bob wh()ring division is such cataclismic event even immaginable? The bob whorum foring division is already damn big and mighty. ...it's impossible to have anything better than that ---------------- Originally by:** Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:56:00 - [53] Originally by: Ziyi Zhang Give the public what they want - BE vs Penetrate Imagine it - fleets of stabbed out ravens warping in and out of a gate all night long - bliss We are friends with them.
SATAN	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:53:00 - [54] Originally by: Ziyi Zhang Give the public what they want - BE vs Penetrate Imagine it - fleets of stabbed out ravens warping in and out of a gate all night long - bliss Unlike the rest of EVE both groups know how to fit out tacklers. And we dont bring blobs to fight a few, we actualy go out of our way to bring fewer numbers so that the enemy would engage instead of run. If such an engagement were to ever happen the only people warping out would be the ones in pods. PS. Is goonfleet a way for the sorry members of BoB/5/etc to learn how to pvp without anyone knowing its them? If so you really should stop forum whoring like em cause it really does show.
Mordocik	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:58:00 - [55] Originally by: Xachar Edited by: Xachar on 23/03/2006 17:47:58 You better wish Goonfleet never does a 'Show of force', if we can get up a 100 man gang on spur of the moment, I shudder (with joy) to think how big the gang would get on a planned engagement at goon prime time. You could have killed the entire fleet and we wouldn't raise an eyebrow. That night there where over 250 people in our rudimentry corp channel, some of our best tactitians even opted out due to apathy. As to why we were in your system, that's up to the directors to answer. Of course goonfleet uses greater numbers, anyone who doesnt take every advantage they can get is a terrible pilot. Honour be damned, fill your low slots with stabs and take on people 10 to 1, I don't think you'd find mention of any armies not attempting to overwhelm with superior numbers or terrain advantage in history. All that matters is winning, not looking good while doing it. These are my own opinions and do not represent the corps own, I apologise if I offended any one in any way. It was a good fight and both sides fought well, it was good experiance for our newbies which may one day perhaps be able to rival penetrate's pod pilots blow for blow. I'm not complaining about your numbers, but what I don't understand is that you REALLY think that we are going to engage that kind of numbers (ie > 5:1) in an unfavourable situation? Like honestly cruise around with 400 members in gang but don't expect to get any decent fights. You can bring every advantage to bear that you want but if you actually want to fight try to hide the fact a little better.
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:05:00 - [56] Originally by: Ziyi Zhang Give the public what they want - BE vs Penetrate Imagine it - fleets of stabbed out ravens warping in and out of a gate all night long - bliss ROFL! - Gob (my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p)
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 00:36:00 - [57] Well today another Goonfleet engaged us the results as follows.. Kills 18 Frigates 6 Crusers 1 Flycatcher 1 mega Losses 1 raven 1 rifter Good fight allround After that we proceded to kill a PLAYER dredd ~Once again thanks to all the pilots involved it was funny to see goonflett smaking in MHC and then they all got podded in F67e Yarrrrrrrr fraps will follow soon.
Brisi	Posted - 2006.03.24 00:47:00 - [58] Countdown to lockage... I'd say this post reaches three and a half page before Abdalion gets in here. How about you guys?
Stahlregen	Posted - 2006.03.24 01:00:00 - [59] We have nearly a hundred times as many pilots as you, And of that five hundred are new, Just gotten their ships and are itching to go steam roll something. I cant wait to see what you post when we really do start putting 'the heat on'. "Don't worry, My friend is just admiring the shape of your skull-throne."
Azaeren	Posted - 2006.03.24 01:13:00 - [60] Ahahahaha. The first time goonfleet has seen you monkeys was last night. We were on our way back from a 4 hour op in PF-346 when a few of us were in a hurry to get home. I, being the lone tempest getting ganked, forgot to turn off autopilot as I jumped through. No biggie. Didnt get podded, not that it mattered. All the really good T2 stuff exploded except for like 3 1400s. Honestly, this was like goonfleet with frigate blobs, except these guys use battleships. I was "LOL"ing as my tempest exploded in under 5 seconds though. I should of hit my hardners as I had over 65% resists in everything. Could of lasted to 10 seconds at least. All of Goonfleets hostiles need to pay attention to this video. This will be goonfleet in a few weeks. Massive battleship gangs of 80 people :)
Cringeley	Posted - 2006.03.24 01:24:00 - [61] I was at the battle and I had a great time. We polled for ship losses after the main engagement and nobody spoke up about any major losses. On the other hand we bagged those battleships full of T2 gear so financially I think we came out ahead. I too would be interested in seeing a full accounting of our losses from that fight from your killboard because really it seemed like we ended the battle comparatively unscathed. Losing frigs and cruisers doesn't bother us in the slightest. We waited in system for quite a while afterwards trying to probe your group and from what I recall you left the system before we did. ----------------------------------------- Wild Pig spawn in jungle, bring spear
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:11:00 - [62] Originally by: Cringeley I was at the battle and I had a great time. We polled for ship losses after the main engagement and nobody spoke up about any major losses. On the other hand we bagged those battleships full of T2 gear so financially I think we came out ahead. I too would be interested in seeing a full accounting of our losses from that fight from your killboard because really it seemed like we ended the battle comparatively unscathed. Losing frigs and cruisers doesn't bother us in the slightest. We waited in system for quite a while afterwards trying to probe your group and from what I recall you left the system before we did. we have confirmed that 3 of your pilots lost battleships in the engagement witout posting killmails i can not show you this as i am not allowed to post them... your covert ops was scanning for us ???? wonder why he did not chk the gates as thats where we were after we re-grped... anyhow GF and no way can u ever claim you came out on top look at howmany were podded just from the local count zipping down :P We did jump out of the system and we waited next dor for 20 mins but as others pointed out before me you did not seem to be there for the fighting as u would have allowed us to jump in lag free if you were. yarrrr
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:15:00 - [63] Edited by: KIATolon on 24/03/2006 02:15:03 Or you can look at it another way. 1/20th of your corp lost a ship to GF compared with 1/50th of GF losing a ship to you guys. Stats are funny things and always work in favour. At the end of the day the only thing people will remember is yourself charging to the forums to boast about killing a fleet with 1/5th of the sp's on the field as you had.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:38:00 - [64] Edited by: thedragoon on 24/03/2006 02:40:17 Originally by: KIATolon Edited by: KIATolon on 24/03/2006 02:15:03 Or you can look at it another way. 1/20th of your corp lost a ship to GF compared with 1/50th of GF losing a ship to you guys. Stats are funny things and always work in favour. At the end of the day the only thing people will remember is yourself charging to the forums to boast about killing a fleet with 1/5th of the sp's on the field as you had. Hmmm want mme to talk about owning your guys in the rook vega,demios and all the other ships that you lost the other day to us ???? thought not K thanks NOW STFU NOOB Edit* HAHAHA i remeber now you were the rook so you can defo STFU now ] go flame someone who has not killed and podded you.
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:45:00 - [65] OOMGAZ\| U ROK CUS I NVER USUALLIE GET PODED, ONLYEE BY YOU YOU DEFO ROK NOW! However the interesting part of this story, that I knew you would bring up ;) is that your 5 bs were safespotted for 20 mins from a rook, a vaga a couple of inties and 2 bs. Then when we split with vlinc you came after us, and we decided to fight anyway. Sure you won. But you still sat in a SS for twenty minutes smacking (to yourselves) in local about how uber you are (from you SS). I'd believe you were AFK for your compulsory 30 minute forum breaks except for the fact you were warping around so furiously.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:50:00 - [66] Edited by: thedragoon on 24/03/2006 02:52:05 Originally by: KIATolon OOMGAZ\| U ROK CUS I NVER USUALLIE GET PODED, ONLYEE BY YOU YOU DEFO ROK NOW! However the interesting part of this story, that I knew you would bring up ;) is that your 5 bs were safespotted for 20 mins from a rook, a vaga a couple of inties and 2 bs. Then when we split with vlinc you came after us, and we decided to fight anyway. Sure you won. But you still sat in a SS for twenty minutes smacking (to yourselves) in local about how uber you are (from you SS). I'd believe you were AFK for your compulsory 30 minute forum breaks except for the fact you were warping around so furiously. just so you know Shadow company were the main body of the fleet we had with us and we were trying to get it confirmed that you were going to shoot them or not as they were blue to FIVE .... I asked your FC if they were going to shoot shadow or not and he did not give a clear answer After you shot at FC we then owned you as shadow was able to open fire.... If we would have engaged befor that your fleet would have outnumbered us 4 to 1 without the shadow guys,,,, Maybe your pilots fly like the goonies but do you have the same skillpoints as well Once again STFU get your facts str8 and go flame someone who has not podded and killed your rook, I feel so sorry for you are that bitter must not of been able to aford the loss eh.
Yazoul Samaiel	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:53:00 - [67] Originally by: KIATolon OOMGAZ\| U ROK CUS I NVER USUALLIE GET PODED, ONLYEE BY YOU YOU DEFO ROK NOW! However the interesting part of this story, that I knew you would bring up ;) is that your 5 bs were safespotted for 20 mins from a rook, a vaga a couple of inties and 2 bs. Then when we split with vlinc you came after us, and we decided to fight anyway. Sure you won. But you still sat in a SS for twenty minutes smacking (to yourselves) in local about how uber you are (from you SS). I'd believe you were AFK for your compulsory 30 minute forum breaks except for the fact you were warping around so furiously. After waiting for like 30 mins we were bored out of our skulls and decided to head home sicne u guys dotn have the stones to fight decently. We also had to get drunk coz there was nothing better to do , then u boys decided to ram so we came either way and fought but ofc the odds of 5 bs aginst a hac 2 inties and cpl of cruisers is already known so stuff ur babbeling about the noob **** mmmkayyyy ? "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
vankar	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:54:00 - [68] which 5 corps have u killed in the "some 5 corps coloum"? supremacy left 5, I asssume thats the only 5-ish corp u see there.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:56:00 - [69] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: KIATolon OOMGAZ\| U ROK CUS I NVER USUALLIE GET PODED, ONLYEE BY YOU YOU DEFO ROK NOW! However the interesting part of this story, that I knew you would bring up ;) is that your 5 bs were safespotted for 20 mins from a rook, a vaga a couple of inties and 2 bs. Then when we split with vlinc you came after us, and we decided to fight anyway. Sure you won. But you still sat in a SS for twenty minutes smacking (to yourselves) in local about how uber you are (from you SS). I'd believe you were AFK for your compulsory 30 minute forum breaks except for the fact you were warping around so furiously. After waiting for like 30 mins we were bored out of our skulls and decided to head home sicne u guys dotn have the stones to fight decently. We also had to get drunk coz there was nothing better to do , then u boys decided to ram so we came either way and fought but ofc the odds of 5 bs aginst a hac 2 inties and cpl of cruisers is already known so stuff ur babbeling about the noob **** mmmkayyyy ? I answered this in the post above noob so again STFU and read before you post...
Yazoul Samaiel	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:56:00 - [70] Originally by: thedragoon Edited by: thedragoon on 24/03/2006 02:52:05 Originally by: KIATolon OOMGAZ\| U ROK CUS I NVER USUALLIE GET PODED, ONLYEE BY YOU YOU DEFO ROK NOW! However the interesting part of this story, that I knew you would bring up ;) is that your 5 bs were safespotted for 20 mins from a rook, a vaga a couple of inties and 2 bs. Then when we split with vlinc you came after us, and we decided to fight anyway. Sure you won. But you still sat in a SS for twenty minutes smacking (to yourselves) in local about how uber you are (from you SS). I'd believe you were AFK for your compulsory 30 minute forum breaks except for the fact you were warping around so furiously. just so you know Shadow company were the main body of the fleet we had with us and we were trying to get it confirmed that you were going to shoot them or not as they were blue to FIVE .... I asked your FC if they were going to shoot shadow or not and he did not give a clear answer After you shot at FC we then owned you as shadow was able to open fire.... If we would have engaged befor that your fleet would have outnumbered us 4 to 1 without the shadow guys,,,, Maybe your pilots fly like the goonies but do you have the same skillpoints as well Once again STFU get your facts str8 and go flame someone who has not podded and killed your rook, I feel so sorry for you are that bitter must not of been able to aford the loss eh. This is spechialy for you Your skills or would u prefer this Penetrate Corp chat "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
Stahlregen	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:57:00 - [71] Originally by: thedragoon Originally by: KIATolon OOMGAZ\| U ROK CUS I NVER USUALLIE GET PODED, ONLYEE BY YOU YOU DEFO ROK NOW! However the interesting part of this story, that I knew you would bring up ;) is that your 5 bs were safespotted for 20 mins from a rook, a vaga a couple of inties and 2 bs. Then when we split with vlinc you came after us, and we decided to fight anyway. Sure you won. But you still sat in a SS for twenty minutes smacking (to yourselves) in local about how uber you are (from you SS). I'd believe you were AFK for your compulsory 30 minute forum breaks except for the fact you were warping around so furiously. just so you know Shadow company were the main body of the fleet we had with us and we were trying to get it confirmed that you were going to shoot them or not as they were blue to FIVE .... I asked your FC if they were going to shoot shadow or not and he did not give a clear answer After you shot at FC we then owned you as shadow was able to open fire.... If we would have engaged befor that your fleet would have outnumbered us 4 to 1 without the shadow guys,,,, Maybe your pilots fly like the goonies but do you have the same skillpoints as well Once again STFU get your facts str8 and go flame someone who has not podded and killed your rook I feel so sorry that you are that bitter. Acting like this isnt going to have you last long, You are nothing, You cannot even begin imagine how insignificant and miniscule you are in the scheme of things.You are just another name on another long list of two-bit corps. You better pick up your numbers, By.. oh.. say 500% because once we are done with Iron and G you and every other tiny noname corporation is going to have a hard time not being annhilated when we have 2000+ bored pilots sitting around syndicate looking for something to shoot. "Don't worry, My friend is just admiring the shape of your skull-throne."
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:00:00 - [72] Edited by: thedragoon on 24/03/2006 03:01:35 Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: thedragoon Originally by: KIATolon OOMGAZ\| U ROK CUS I NVER USUALLIE GET PODED, ONLYEE BY YOU YOU DEFO ROK NOW! However the interesting part of this story, that I knew you would bring up ;) is that your 5 bs were safespotted for 20 mins from a rook, a vaga a couple of inties and 2 bs. Then when we split with vlinc you came after us, and we decided to fight anyway. Sure you won. But you still sat in a SS for twenty minutes smacking (to yourselves) in local about how uber you are (from you SS). I'd believe you were AFK for your compulsory 30 minute forum breaks except for the fact you were warping around so furiously. just so you know Shadow company were the main body of the fleet we had with us and we were trying to get it confirmed that you were going to shoot them or not as they were blue to FIVE .... I asked your FC if they were going to shoot shadow or not and he did not give a clear answer After you shot at FC we then owned you as shadow was able to open fire.... If we would have engaged befor that your fleet would have outnumbered us 4 to 1 without the shadow guys,,,, Maybe your pilots fly like the goonies but do you have the same skillpoints as well Once again STFU get your facts str8 and go flame someone who has not podded and killed your rook I feel so sorry that you are that bitter. Acting like this isnt going to have you last long, You are nothing, You cannot even begin imagine how insignificant and miniscule you are in the scheme of things.You are just another name on another long list of two-bit corps. You better pick up your numbers, By.. oh.. say 500% because once we are done with Iron and G you and every other tiny noname corporation is going to have a hard time not being annhilated when we have 2000+ bored pilots sitting around syndicate looking for something to shoot. ROFL its post's like this that tell me how much we are Owning you keep it up P.S this is your alt in goonfleet eh??? as its the five that are attacking G and Iorn i think you forgot to change the bit that said insert your main here,,,, Well at least we know why goonfleet lost so bad today it was a five member FCing for them ROFL
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:03:00 - [73] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: thedragoon Edited by: thedragoon on 24/03/2006 02:52:05 Originally by: KIATolon OOMGAZ\| U ROK CUS I NVER USUALLIE GET PODED, ONLYEE BY YOU YOU DEFO ROK NOW! However the interesting part of this story, that I knew you would bring up ;) is that your 5 bs were safespotted for 20 mins from a rook, a vaga a couple of inties and 2 bs. Then when we split with vlinc you came after us, and we decided to fight anyway. Sure you won. But you still sat in a SS for twenty minutes smacking (to yourselves) in local about how uber you are (from you SS). I'd believe you were AFK for your compulsory 30 minute forum breaks except for the fact you were warping around so furiously. just so you know Shadow company were the main body of the fleet we had with us and we were trying to get it confirmed that you were going to shoot them or not as they were blue to FIVE .... I asked your FC if they were going to shoot shadow or not and he did not give a clear answer After you shot at FC we then owned you as shadow was able to open fire.... If we would have engaged befor that your fleet would have outnumbered us 4 to 1 without the shadow guys,,,, Maybe your pilots fly like the goonies but do you have the same skillpoints as well Once again STFU get your facts str8 and go flame someone who has not podded and killed your rook, I feel so sorry for you are that bitter must not of been able to aford the loss eh. This is spechialy for you Your skills or would u prefer this Penetrate Corp chat your links dont work buddy want to try and post them on your GoonFleet alt they might then
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:06:00 - [74] FragM posts usually go downhill after page 2. But KiaTolon, AKA Stahlregen, seems to have aprked things up a bit here.
Yazoul Samaiel	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:12:00 - [75] My links work now , Enjoy and no i dont have any goon alts. "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
Baun	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:13:00 - [76] Naming a thread after a bad 80s song should not be tolerated. The Enemy's Gate is Down
RoboTronic	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:14:00 - [77] Originally by: thedragoon ROFL its post's like this that tell me how much we are Owning you keep it up P.S this is your alt in goonfleet eh??? as its the five that are attacking G and Iorn i think you forgot to change the bit that said insert your main here,,,, Well at least we know why goonfleet lost so bad today it was a five member FCing for them ROFL Just because we fly along side the five doesn't mean every one of us is an alt :/ Sig rule compliant sig \o/
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:16:00 - [78] Originally by: RoboTronic Originally by: thedragoon ROFL its post's like this that tell me how much we are Owning you keep it up P.S this is your alt in goonfleet eh??? as its the five that are attacking G and Iorn i think you forgot to change the bit that said insert your main here,,,, Well at least we know why goonfleet lost so bad today it was a five member FCing for them ROFL Just because we fly along side the five doesn't mean every one of us is an alt :/ I never said that you All had alts in Goonfleet I am just saying that one of you that did just made a post with his goon fleet ALT by mistake he must be feeling very right now
Stahlregen	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:17:00 - [79] Originally by: thedragoon Edited by: thedragoon on 24/03/2006 03:01:35 Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: thedragoon Originally by: KIATolon OOMGAZ\| U ROK CUS I NVER USUALLIE GET PODED, ONLYEE BY YOU YOU DEFO ROK NOW! However the interesting part of this story, that I knew you would bring up ;) is that your 5 bs were safespotted for 20 mins from a rook, a vaga a couple of inties and 2 bs. Then when we split with vlinc you came after us, and we decided to fight anyway. Sure you won. But you still sat in a SS for twenty minutes smacking (to yourselves) in local about how uber you are (from you SS). I'd believe you were AFK for your compulsory 30 minute forum breaks except for the fact you were warping around so furiously. just so you know Shadow company were the main body of the fleet we had with us and we were trying to get it confirmed that you were going to shoot them or not as they were blue to FIVE .... I asked your FC if they were going to shoot shadow or not and he did not give a clear answer After you shot at FC we then owned you as shadow was able to open fire.... If we would have engaged befor that your fleet would have outnumbered us 4 to 1 without the shadow guys,,,, Maybe your pilots fly like the goonies but do you have the same skillpoints as well Once again STFU get your facts str8 and go flame someone who has not podded and killed your rook I feel so sorry that you are that bitter. Acting like this isnt going to have you last long, You are nothing, You cannot even begin imagine how insignificant and miniscule you are in the scheme of things.You are just another name on another long list of two-bit corps. You better pick up your numbers, By.. oh.. say 500% because once we are done with Iron and G you and every other tiny noname corporation is going to have a hard time not being annhilated when we have 2000+ bored pilots sitting around syndicate looking for something to shoot. ROFL its post's like this that tell me how much we are Owning you keep it up P.S this is your alt in goonfleet eh??? as its the five that are attacking G and Iorn i think you forgot to change the bit that said insert your main here,,,, Well at least we know why goonfleet lost so bad today it was a five member FCing for them ROFL Hey man, Ive got nothing to do with Tolon. If you want to go prancing around the forums spouting crap like your some ******* mega eve superstar go ahead, If you knew where we came from you would also know that starting a forum war with us would be moronic. You have had one engagement with goonfleet so far, We werent even out for an operation against you either, You were just a stop on the way home from a previous op. I dont know about the rest of your corporation but you lot seem to just be another bunch 206 ex-counterstrike players who just moved into 0.0 and now have dellusions of grandeur. "Don't worry, My friend is just admiring the shape of your skull-throne."
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:21:00 - [80] Edited by: thedragoon on 24/03/2006 03:22:49 Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: thedragoon Edited by: thedragoon on 24/03/2006 03:01:35 Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: thedragoon Originally by: KIATolon OOMGAZ\| U ROK CUS I NVER USUALLIE GET PODED, ONLYEE BY YOU YOU DEFO ROK NOW! However the interesting part of this story, that I knew you would bring up ;) is that your 5 bs were safespotted for 20 mins from a rook, a vaga a couple of inties and 2 bs. Then when we split with vlinc you came after us, and we decided to fight anyway. Sure you won. But you still sat in a SS for twenty minutes smacking (to yourselves) in local about how uber you are (from you SS). I'd believe you were AFK for your compulsory 30 minute forum breaks except for the fact you were warping around so furiously. just so you know Shadow company were the main body of the fleet we had with us and we were trying to get it confirmed that you were going to shoot them or not as they were blue to FIVE .... I asked your FC if they were going to shoot shadow or not and he did not give a clear answer After you shot at FC we then owned you as shadow was able to open fire.... If we would have engaged befor that your fleet would have outnumbered us 4 to 1 without the shadow guys,,,, Maybe your pilots fly like the goonies but do you have the same skillpoints as well Once again STFU get your facts str8 and go flame someone who has not podded and killed your rook I feel so sorry that you are that bitter. Acting like this isnt going to have you last long, You are nothing, You cannot even begin imagine how insignificant and miniscule you are in the scheme of things.You are just another name on another long list of two-bit corps. You better pick up your numbers, By.. oh.. say 500% because once we are done with Iron and G you and every other tiny noname corporation is going to have a hard time not being annhilated when we have 2000+ bored pilots sitting around syndicate looking for something to shoot. ROFL its post's like this that tell me how much we are Owning you keep it up P.S this is your alt in goonfleet eh??? as its the five that are attacking G and Iorn i think you forgot to change the bit that said insert your main here,,,, Well at least we know why goonfleet lost so bad today it was a five member FCing for them ROFL Hey man, Ive got nothing to do with Tolon. If you want to go prancing around the forums spouting crap like your some ******* mega eve superstar go ahead, If you knew where we came from you would also know that starting a forum war with us would be moronic. You have had one engagement with goonfleet so far, We werent even out for an operation against you either, You were just a stop on the way home from a previous op. I dont know about the rest of your corporation but you lot seem to just be another bunch 206 ex-counterstrike players who just moved into 0.0 and now have dellusions of grandeur. Kia tolan it is so obvious it is you but if you are trying to hide your alt at least change the post you made with this char up there to your KIa one..... maybe you would have a better chance of people beliving that this was not you more then HAHAHA
fmercury	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:27:00 - [81] Edited by: fmercury on 24/03/2006 03:27:12 Originally by: thedragoon Kia tolan it is so obvious it is you but if you are trying to hide your alt at least change the post you made with this char up there to your KIa one..... maybe you would have a better chance of people beliving that this was not you more then HAHAHA hahahahahaha
Stahlregen	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:31:00 - [82] Quote: Kia tolan it is so obvious it is you but if you are trying to hide your alt at least change the post you made with this char up there to your KIa one..... maybe you would have a better chance of people beliving that this was not you more then HAHAHA Well mate, I guess everyone but you now knows how stupid you are now that you post this. "Don't worry, My friend is just admiring the shape of your skull-throne."
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:35:00 - [83] Originally by: Stahlregen Quote: Kia tolan it is so obvious it is you but if you are trying to hide your alt at least change the post you made with this char up there to your KIa one..... maybe you would have a better chance of people beliving that this was not you more then HAHAHA Well mate, I guess everyone but you now knows how stupid you are now that you post this. so goon fleet are about to finish off G and Iorn eh yarrrrr i could have sworn it was Five attacking them stfu noob night Kia i am off 2 sleep now but it was fun finding out at least 1 of your alts, by getting u that mad u posted with the wrong Guy LOL, and just the fact that u have not posted back with your main to counter the claim and its your alt defending you ..... well we will let others decide but like me iam sure they are not that stupid and if i was G and iorn i would be waring goon fleet as the five's alt corp HAHA
Stahlregen	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:37:00 - [84] Originally by: thedragoon Originally by: Stahlregen Quote: Kia tolan it is so obvious it is you but if you are trying to hide your alt at least change the post you made with this char up there to your KIa one..... maybe you would have a better chance of people beliving that this was not you more then HAHAHA Well mate, I guess everyone but you now knows how stupid you are now that you post this. so goon fleet are about to finish off G and Iorn eh yarrrrr i could have sworn it was Five attacking them stfu noob night Kia i am off 2 sleep now but it was fun finding out at least 1 of your alts, by getting u that mad u posted with the wrong Guy LOL, and just the fact that u have not posted back with your main to counter the claim and its your alt defending you ..... well we will let others decide but like me iam sure they are not that stupid and if i was G and iorn i would be waring goon fleet as the five's alt corp HAHA Okay, i think this guy just did my job for me by confirming he really is retarded. "Don't worry, My friend is just admiring the shape of your skull-throne."
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:39:00 - [85] Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: thedragoon Originally by: Stahlregen Quote: Kia tolan it is so obvious it is you but if you are trying to hide your alt at least change the post you made with this char up there to your KIa one..... maybe you would have a better chance of people beliving that this was not you more then HAHAHA Well mate, I guess everyone but you now knows how stupid you are now that you post this. so goon fleet are about to finish off G and Iorn eh yarrrrr i could have sworn it was Five attacking them stfu noob night Kia i am off 2 sleep now but it was fun finding out at least 1 of your alts, by getting u that mad u posted with the wrong Guy LOL, and just the fact that u have not posted back with your main to counter the claim and its your alt defending you ..... well we will let others decide but like me iam sure they are not that stupid and if i was G and iorn i would be waring goon fleet as the five's alt corp HAHA Okay, i think this guy just did my job for me by confirming he really is retarded. Your job was defending your main and claiming that it is not you ooook gn anyhow
fmercury	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:41:00 - [86] Originally by: thedragoon Your job was defending your main and claiming that it is not you ooook gn anyhow hahhahahahahahahaha
Stahlregen	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:42:00 - [87] Edited by: Stahlregen on 24/03/2006 03:44:16 Originally by: thedragoon Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: thedragoon Originally by: Stahlregen Quote: Kia tolan it is so obvious it is you but if you are trying to hide your alt at least change the post you made with this char up there to your KIa one..... maybe you would have a better chance of people beliving that this was not you more then HAHAHA Well mate, I guess everyone but you now knows how stupid you are now that you post this. so goon fleet are about to finish off G and Iorn eh yarrrrr i could have sworn it was Five attacking them stfu noob night Kia i am off 2 sleep now but it was fun finding out at least 1 of your alts, by getting u that mad u posted with the wrong Guy LOL, and just the fact that u have not posted back with your main to counter the claim and its your alt defending you ..... well we will let others decide but like me iam sure they are not that stupid and if i was G and iorn i would be waring goon fleet as the five's alt corp HAHA Okay, i think this guy just did my job for me by confirming he really is retarded. Your job was defending your main and claiming that it is not you ooook gn anyhow By your overuse of emoticons, Apparent lack of knowledge on the current situation surrounding your own space, Id be surprised if you can salvage even the slightest trace of dignity from this thread. I almost feel sorry for the guys that have been lumped in with you. But hey, If this is the company they keep they probably deserve it. It looks like all that big talk has died down. I do believe you have been served. "Don't worry, My friend is just admiring the shape of your skull-throne."
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.03.24 04:08:00 - [88] sorry meant to post with this char lol
Drachenlord	Posted - 2006.03.24 07:00:00 - [89] Edited by: Drachenlord on 24/03/2006 07:00:32 Edited by: Drachenlord on 24/03/2006 07:00:12 did I see a dominix blink from existence in that video? looked like it was scrammed and webbed, and then, it wasnt there? I also noticed a lot of logging on and off during the course of that video of a lot of those that appeared to be in your gang... Good fight and decent video, but it just looked like some pilots were logging in combat when under fire... Well done taking the fight to them in any case, its hard to fight the zergfleet known as the goons. -------------------------------------------------
Black Napallm	Posted - 2006.03.24 07:49:00 - [90] Edited by: Black Napallm on 24/03/2006 07:59:09 To the comments on the video, we also find simple ganks not that exiting, but we are always looking for a bigger battle..its like filling a glass with your favorite drink when you are really thirsty, you cant have it full instantly or always, there will be moments where its not full. We find EVE fun. Thats all that matters...
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.03.24 09:00:00 - [91] Originally by: Black Napallm Edited by: Black Napallm on 24/03/2006 07:59:09 its like filling a glass with your favorite drink when you are really thirsty, you cant have it full instantly or always, there will be moments where its not full. - Gob (my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p)
Warlord2004	Posted - 2006.03.24 10:12:00 - [92] Originally by: Black Napallm Edited by: Black Napallm on 24/03/2006 07:59:09 To the comments on the video, we also find simple ganks not that exiting, but we are always looking for a bigger battle..its like filling a glass with your favorite drink when you are really thirsty, you cant have it full instantly or always, there will be moments where its not full. We find EVE fun. Thats all that matters... We don't let black out much.....
Kalashi	Posted - 2006.03.24 10:16:00 - [93] One post says - "most of our pilots are new and itching to get into a fight" <- Frigate pilot Seems that would be 90% of your forces? Then another post says "Just wait until we all jump into our Battleships...blah blah" <- O RLY ? All i see is a Large scale Corp. of Alts and as many Noobs recruited for 'PVP' as possible. Safety in Numbers for Goonfleet? Well, second engagement last night. Whether you were returning from an OP or whatever. When in 0.0 you should always be ready to fight, be organised, alert etc. Again, check our losses. Then look at your own. 50% of your fleet flying to station in Pods in the first 25sec's of battle was great fun to see
Jemmy Bloocher	Posted - 2006.03.24 10:21:00 - [94] Edited by: Jemmy Bloocher on 24/03/2006 10:21:41 What were they doing there anyway?
Happydayz	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:51:00 - [95] Edited by: Happydayz on 24/03/2006 11:53:01 Originally by: Kalashi One post says - "most of our pilots are new and itching to get into a fight" <- Frigate pilot Seems that would be 90% of your forces? Then another post says "Just wait until we all jump into our Battleships...blah blah" <- O RLY ? All i see is a Large scale Corp. of Alts and as many Noobs recruited for 'PVP' as possible. Safety in Numbers for Goonfleet? I dont see how you don't get that. We just finished a recruiting drive bringing in literally hundreds of new players. Some will stay, some will leave. In 1-2 months many of them will be in BS's, and in another 2-3 months after that they'll be specialized in either BS's or T2 ships. So yes, it is logically consistent to note that although many of our newbies are in frigates now that they'll be flying in other ships soon. As for safety in numbers: of course. There are multiple viable strategies for PvP'ing in eve. Bringing superior numbers to compensate for lack of skillpoints/equipment is just one of these. I think that the current flame war here in this thread is because both groups find that fighting each other can be quite frustrating. In the one time that I fought with Penetrate I wasted about 45 minutes to an hour waiting for them to leave their safespots and open engagements. On the other end, it is of course frustrating to want to fight only to realize that the fleet on the other side of the gate has 50+ pilots with drones out. But so what? Each side is going to maximize their chances of survival and victory and taking advantage of their inherent strengths. Penetrate with their smaller fleets composed of better ships and higher SP pilots can't afford to just blindly charge into battle and use various methods to shape the battlefield to their advantage. Conversely, goonfleet, with their larger fleets made up of weaker ships and lower SP pilots oftentimes needs to rely on its mass to win victories. There are of course exceptions to the rule as GF has many older and experienced pilots and I'm sure that Penetrate has done a few "damn the torpedos, full speed ahead" type manuevers. Quote: 50% of your fleet flying to station in Pods in the first 25sec's of battle was great fun to see A lot of the newbies that I'm partly responsible for mentoring were out in that fight and I for one am glad that they got to experience a real 0.0 fleet op within their first week of playing. Whether they came back home in a pod or not they still got some great experience and hopefuly formed good habits. edit: and in case anyone saw a lone blackbird hauling tail back home, that would have been me. After a 3 hour op and work the next day in 5 hours, I needed to go to bed and get to sleep. Does it show a lack of discipline? Well yeah. But this is also a game and sometimes people chose to take risks in the name of convenience. I imagine that this was the case with the tempest that you ganked.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:56:00 - [96] Originally by: Ohmite We have also had some battles with you, while most have been fun at the time it is dissapointing to see many of your raven pilots fitting the Burn Eden tactic of all WCS stabs across the bottom. Yes it is is a valid tactic and is effective, just a bit disspointing to see you saying how well you are doing and making out you are good PVPers which some of you certainly are but then having to resort to the lame tactics of a full rack of WCS, if you want to fight then fight not fit for retreat - Just seems abit hypocritical thats all You can see a bit of a fight we had with Suprem here sadly our only loss was the guy frapsing that fight but u get the drift it aslso shows us owning dark at the end :P Suprem-Dark fight
Calenth	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:37:00 - [97] Edited by: Calenth on 24/03/2006 12:38:08 Little known fact: Everyone in goonfleet is a KIATolon alt . . . except for one person. I wasn't there for these engagments, but looking over the killboards, the result seem about even financially. Anyone bragging about how they got OMG SO MANY kills against . . .goonfleet. . is kinda missing the point of the swarm tactics we've been using and popularizing for months now.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:41:00 - [98] Originally by: Calenth Edited by: Calenth on 24/03/2006 12:38:08 Little known fact: Everyone in goonfleet is a KIATolon alt . . . except for one person. I wasn't there for these engagments, but looking over the killboards, the result seem about even financially. Anyone bragging about how they got OMG SO MANY kills against . . .goonfleet. . is kinda missing the point of the swarm tactics we've been using and popularizing for months now. The result was even ??????? your killboards are very badly wrong LOL unless you are using KIATOLANS meth of you have 500x our size so 1 bil in loss to you is as bad as us loosing 500k cause to come to the result you have that would be about the formula
Calenth	Posted - 2006.03.24 13:11:00 - [99] Originally by: thedragoon The result was even ??????? your killboards are very badly wrong LOL unless you are using KIATOLANS meth of you have 500x our size so 1 bil in loss to you is as bad as us loosing 500k cause to come to the result you have that would be about the formula Your ships use expensive t2 fittings, ours usually don't. When one of your guns is worth more than ten of our ships, going by base ship value is a little silly. That said, there's a reason that killboard links are prohibited on this forum. Suffice to say, I think our guys did reasonably well for themselves, considering (apart from Azaeraen's foolish Tempest loss, which was his own fault) and the amount of forum prancing that has resulted amuses me.
PipoDeYoyo	Posted - 2006.03.24 13:15:00 - [100] Go Goonfleet!
Azaeren	Posted - 2006.03.24 14:46:00 - [101] As I stated before, I was the only T2 fitted battleship to get ganked, stupidly on my behalf. So other then me getting killed, losing about 30m insurance+50M in fittings=80m out of my pocket. Oh wait, I really didnt lose anything because of me using looted enemy gear. GG. 30m out of my pocket. Anyway, Penetrate ranks right up there with..Hell, You're the lamest bunch Ive ever seen in 2 years of eve playtime.
Trac3rt	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:08:00 - [102] Edited by: Trac3rt on 24/03/2006 15:10:50 Firstly, you guys were the ones afraid to engage on our terms. You asked our fleet commanders for safe passage into the system so you could warp around with stabs sniping our fleet. You were afraid to jump in and engage us on our terms, yet we were not afraid to jump and engage on your terms. That alone says something! Secondly, you have claimed that every goonfleet frigate killed had at least one stab on it? I have just gone through the killmails, and there were only two ships destroyed fitting stabs; an Osprey and a Stabber. More stabs were on the killmails from your three losses than were on the 30 kills you got on us. Thirdly, you lost 3 Battleships with T2 equipment. Our killboard shows 30 losses; 24 Frigates, 4 Cruisers, and 1 Battlecruiser. At an extremely expensive estimate of 2mil a frigate, 10Mil a cruiser, and 40Mil a BC you destroyed 128Million worth of equipment. You lost a Scorp, Raven, and Dom. The Dom and Scorp were using T2 gear. I cannot see how you can claim to have come out financially ahead in that engagement. Fouthly, it is nice to see that you keep up to date on local politics. You are obviously aware that Goonfleet have been assisting The Five and raiding G and IRON space for the last couple of weeks. Finally, it is a strong sign of insecurity when you have to make public announcements for every little acheivement you wish you had made. So you have banded up and gotten a bunch of kills over the last few weeks? Who cares! This is a desperate cry for attention, jumping up and down waving your hands in the air like a kid with downs shoulding "LOOK AT MEEEE!". I am sorry, but the whole of Eve is not going to suddenly take notice and suck you off over this, all threads like this acheive is excessive smack. Before reading this I thought your smack in local couldn't get any more retarded... I was wrong! Please grow up and learn how to spell! ___
Trac3rt	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:10:00 - [103] Edited by: Trac3rt on 24/03/2006 15:10:22 I will give you the fact you beat us yesterday near MHC You win some, you lose some. This is the nature of Eve. At least I flew away with my ship in one piece (more or less). ___
Calmdown	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:47:00 - [104] Originally by: Na'Kota Well it was more like "umpteen" Battleships and a Capital ship waiting for them but yeah, you guys keep clinging to this - "Goonfleet only wins because they lag people out" Wait....Goonfleet wins?
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.24 17:11:00 - [105] Originally by: Trac3rt Edited by: Trac3rt on 24/03/2006 15:10:50 Firstly, you guys were the ones afraid to engage on our terms. You asked our fleet commanders for safe passage into the system so you could warp around with stabs sniping our fleet. You were afraid to jump in and engage us on our terms, yet we were not afraid to jump and engage on your terms. That alone says something! Secondly, you have claimed that every goonfleet frigate killed had at least one stab on it? I have just gone through the killmails, and there were only two ships destroyed fitting stabs; an Osprey and a Stabber. More stabs were on the killmails from your three losses than were on the 30 kills you got on us. Thirdly, you lost 3 Battleships with T2 equipment. Our killboard shows 30 losses; 24 Frigates, 4 Cruisers, and 1 Battlecruiser. At an extremely expensive estimate of 2mil a frigate, 10Mil a cruiser, and 40Mil a BC you destroyed 128Million worth of equipment. You lost a Scorp, Raven, and Dom. The Dom and Scorp were using T2 gear. I cannot see how you can claim to have come out financially ahead in that engagement. Fouthly, it is nice to see that you keep up to date on local politics. You are obviously aware that Goonfleet have been assisting The Five and raiding G and IRON space for the last couple of weeks. Finally, it is a strong sign of insecurity when you have to make public announcements for every little acheivement you wish you had made. So you have banded up and gotten a bunch of kills over the last few weeks? Who cares! This is a desperate cry for attention, jumping up and down waving your hands in the air like a kid with downs shoulding "LOOK AT MEEEE!". I am sorry, but the whole of Eve is not going to suddenly take notice and suck you off over this, all threads like this acheive is excessive smack. Before reading this I thought your smack in local couldn't get any more retarded... I was wrong! Please grow up and learn how to spell! Your facts are wrong 3 battleships from goonfleet were downed in the first fight you talk of but he nvm if u dont want to admit it its fine by me we had fun and we know that 100 to 20 we came out far far ontop and we been killing 10's of your battleships flying around this space on top of that..... we have a little suprise for you may there be lots of good fights
Trinity Trixx	Posted - 2006.03.24 17:36:00 - [106] Originally by: Trac3rt Edited by: Trac3rt on 24/03/2006 15:10:50 Firstly... You've got to be kidding me. 20 ships jumping into 130 so we could play on your terms? Give me a break Trac3rt. I'm trying really hard not to tell you how stupid that sounds, and I won't because you obviously feel validated stating such. My only advice to you would be to put yourself in our shoes and ask yourself what you would have done. Wait... if you do that and still say you would have jumped in on a 130+ fleet... perhaps you should remain silent unless you wish to remove all doubt as to how you would look (as the old adage goes). Originally by: Trac3rt Edited by: Trac3rt on 24/03/2006 15:10:50 Secondly... And our kill mails say different. Moot point really as there will always be questions about killmails and they are rarely accurate according to either side. Originally by: Trac3rt Edited by: Trac3rt on 24/03/2006 15:10:50 Thirdly... See Above and just to split hairs - NOTE: in your first sentence, you say "you lost 3 Battleships with T2 equipment... and in your second to last sentence say "The Dom and Scorp were using T2 gear" Again, this leads to plausibility. You're losing ground. Originally by: Trac3rt Edited by: Trac3rt on 24/03/2006 15:10:50 Fouthly... Where did any one of us directly say otherwise? Originally by: Trac3rt Edited by: Trac3rt on 24/03/2006 15:10:50 Finally... It is never wise to cast stones when living in a glass house. -- 'Though this be madness, yet there is method in 't.' W.S. "Hamlet"
RoboTronic	Posted - 2006.03.24 19:05:00 - [107] Originally by: Trinity Trixx It is never wise to cast stones when living in a glass house. I bet it's a LOT of fun though! Sig rule compliant sig \o/
Michael Nester	Posted - 2006.03.24 23:11:00 - [108] we produce almost everything from scratch, most of our losses are slim to none on frigates, its only those of us that use T2 gear that incurr the losses. All I can say is keep up whatever it is you are doing, you are training our new players for us, I cut my teeth on two-bit corps such as yours in my day, it is now time for the new gen to learn how to take out the trash.
Stan Bowman	Posted - 2006.03.24 23:49:00 - [109] Well I for one have been having a blast, Thanks for the fodder!
The Anointed	Posted - 2006.03.25 00:09:00 - [110] Originally by: thedragoon Blah Blah Blah Everything you say makes me want to smash my head off my keyboard! I didnÆt even want to post cause I get the feeling I would simply be encouraging you. Honestly, you have got to be the most infuriatingly 'special' person in eve. I didnÆt think institutes had internet connections though? Kr0m's Recruiting
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 01:54:00 - [111] Originally by: The Anointed Originally by: thedragoon Blah Blah Blah Everything you say makes me want to smash my head off my keyboard! I didnÆt even want to post cause I get the feeling I would simply be encouraging you. Honestly, you have got to be the most infuriatingly 'special' person in eve. I didnÆt think institutes had internet connections though? Watch who you flame it might get you kicked out of your corp someday.... p.s hello evil edna.
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.03.25 02:36:00 - [112] Originally by: Ohmite We have also had some battles with you, while most have been fun at the time it is dissapointing to see many of your raven pilots fitting the Burn Eden tactic of all WCS stabs across the bottom. Yes it is is a valid tactic and is effective, just a bit disspointing to see you saying how well you are doing and making out you are good PVPers which some of you certainly are but then having to resort to the lame tactics of a full rack of WCS, if you want to fight then fight not fit for retreat - Just seems abit hypocritical thats all Interdictors ftw. Our corp killed 3 of their stab packing bs's. Once the interdictor makes them stand still their gimped setups help you kill them. P.S. The person who dropped the bubble is a lady in her 60's. You got "pwned" by a pensioner!
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.03.25 02:38:00 - [113] Congratulations penetrate, you logged off a lot. You're doing a stirling job. In the time it took you to log off and on again repeatedly, the rest of GF not in the gang made more money that they lost that whole month. Incidently, dragoon: (need to translate for him to understand) U R GANG IS N00B NAD IT LOGED HA U LUSERS U LOGED U NOOBS I PWN U, WOOT GF MADE U LOG AND U SUCKED AND YOU GORT OWNE, OMG WE ROX. :)
remo man	Posted - 2006.03.25 02:58:00 - [114] Ahhh the usual childish bo*lox on teh forums..... oh yeah please use stabs...Interdictors 4TW!!
Hail Xenu	Posted - 2006.03.25 03:25:00 - [115] Edited by: Hail Xenu on 25/03/2006 03:25:14 Edited by: Hail Xenu on 25/03/2006 03:25:01 Oh hi, I'm one of the newbies in GF and I just wanted to thank Penetrate for helping out the newbies. From just one of your cans I got 4 times my net worth at the time, bought an osprey and mined millions worth of zyd, thanks!
Black Napallm	Posted - 2006.03.25 07:47:00 - [116] Originally by: Hail Xenu Edited by: Hail Xenu on 25/03/2006 03:25:14 Edited by: Hail Xenu on 25/03/2006 03:25:01 Oh hi, I'm one of the newbies in GF and I just wanted to thank Penetrate for helping out the newbies. From just one of your cans I got 4 times my net worth at the time, bought an osprey and mined millions worth of zyd, thanks! Oh hey noobie You really dont have to thank us, you can send thanks to NORAD and Serpentis corporation BTW, our losses is part of one big plan that is carrying out as we speak, we let you taste the good fruits, and se what next will follow.
Emsigma	Posted - 2006.03.25 08:57:00 - [117] Originally by: KIATolon Or you can look at it another way. 1/20th of your corp lost a ship to GF compared with 1/50th of GF losing a ship to you guys. I couldn't agree more. If Luxemburg's army had a slug fest with China's army I would definitly proclame China as the winners if both sides lost 50% of their total army in that battle.
Tdino	Posted - 2006.03.25 08:58:00 - [118] I have to say that FLAME FTW, but goon fleet we are board so we fight u for fun, same as NORDAD etc, 130 people and a carrier against 20 funny as hell we been laughing so much on ts. Keep it comming im having a BLAST.....
Fedaykin Naib	Posted - 2006.03.25 11:02:00 - [119] I see that fragm is still the same flaming homosexual he has always been. "Long Live the Fighters!"
Mordocik	Posted - 2006.03.25 11:38:00 - [120] Originally by: Emsigma Originally by: KIATolon Or you can look at it another way. 1/20th of your corp lost a ship to GF compared with 1/50th of GF losing a ship to you guys. I couldn't agree more. If Luxemburg's army had a slug fest with China's army I would definitly proclame China as the winners if both sides lost 50% of their total army in that battle. Who "wins" is, in examples like this, all about perspective, the key thing though is the goal, without a goal the statistics are meaningless. To make this clear, if the goal of china was to invade Luxemburg and it did so at the cost of half of luxemburgs army and half of its own, then clearly China has won, even though its taken significantly more losses. Of course if it doesn't take luxemburg then you could probably say that its lost, due to the fact that its taken a lot more losses. Whats the relevance? The fact that you don't seem to (oh I'm sure theres some high and mighty objective that you won't reveal claiming some uber secret battle technique)have any kind of objective is why you are getting laughed at by your losses. You are losing more then we are, even taking into account the odd tech 2 ship lossage, so without you stating your objective eg "to kill a higher percentage of our enemy then they kill of us" then you will appear to be the losers. Of course while you state that you create things from scratch don't forget we do as well, ravens cost us ~21 mil fully outfitted and we have BPO's for almost all of what we use. Even putting that aside we have so many resources both in terms of individuals wealth and corp wealth that we can afford to lose our tech 2 ships and fittings at the same rate that you lose your tech 1 versions. So basically unless you want to clearly state a goal that shows that your loss rate is irrelevant and its about some other factor, then you are going to appear as the losers to the vast majority of the spectators.
Swaffer	Posted - 2006.03.25 11:43:00 - [121] Well i hope that goon fleet have a good plan to put in to action, Cos i think they might have to move back to empire soon Can any of there pilots fly decent ships, or are they all noobies. LOL
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.03.25 12:07:00 - [122] the goal is to give their pilots combat experience. That is being achieved just fine.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 12:50:00 - [123] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Ohmite We have also had some battles with you, while most have been fun at the time it is dissapointing to see many of your raven pilots fitting the Burn Eden tactic of all WCS stabs across the bottom. Yes it is is a valid tactic and is effective, just a bit disspointing to see you saying how well you are doing and making out you are good PVPers which some of you certainly are but then having to resort to the lame tactics of a full rack of WCS, if you want to fight then fight not fit for retreat - Just seems abit hypocritical thats all Interdictors ftw. Our corp killed 3 of their stab packing bs's. Once the interdictor makes them stand still their gimped setups help you kill them. P.S. The person who dropped the bubble is a lady in her 60's. You got "pwned" by a pensioner! Your getting very excited about this arnt you maybe you should chk your losses to us before spouting off... allthough as i said back in the theread we killed one of your Bs's with 3 of ours at the frigate when 24 of u jumped into local... alot of support with them if you need an inrodictor bubble to hold 3 battleships down when you have 24 in gang maybe you should all consider joining goonfleet that was the first engagement in this area where we came out worse off and losing 3 battle ships for taking 1 is really no big deal now go back to bed or join goonfleet. k thanks
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 12:53:00 - [124] Originally by: KIATolon Congratulations penetrate, you logged off a lot. You're doing a stirling job. In the time it took you to log off and on again repeatedly, the rest of GF not in the gang made more money that they lost that whole month. Incidently, dragoon: (need to translate for him to understand) U R GANG IS N00B NAD IT LOGED HA U LUSERS U LOGED U NOOBS I PWN U, WOOT GF MADE U LOG AND U SUCKED AND YOU GORT OWNE, OMG WE ROX. :) we really upset you last night when we killed 35 ships including numerious bs's and you had 100 in gang and could not get near us....... you called the shot now we are on your doorstep whtcha gonna do big boy the carrier got owned you got owned time to take goonfleet back to jita?
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.03.25 15:31:00 - [125] Yes, the 5 is now disbanding due to the 0 kills you got against us last night, and the 2 kills we got against your lot. Sorry to have bothered you, do you want my stuff? I can leave it in one of the numerous safespots we *****ed and you warped away from when we tried to engage you?
TheBuffoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 15:41:00 - [126] "Hay guyz we got no land no more, maybe we should go fly around Syndicate and brag about shooting frigates!!! lolololol"
Zarimax Mishka	Posted - 2006.03.25 16:04:00 - [127] Originally by: KIATolon the goal is to give their pilots combat experience. That is being achieved just fine. I'm just a newbie goon who lost an executioner in the opening seconds of the battle, but I think this is the smartest thing said all thread. After the battle, I actually had learned a lot and gained some respect for Penetrate. Whoever their tactical commander was quickly realized we had a warp in to their sniping battleships and adjusted their tactics accordingly. Now maybe this meant less goonfleet battleship kills for Penetrate, but it also meant less Penetrate battleship kills for goonfleet. Now maybe I just don't ôgetö EVE enough yet to understand why we all have to come out on the boards and slap each otherÆs faces with our e-peens. Sure the precision cruise missiles used to destroy me cost more than the ship I was flying, but that doesn't make Penetrate a loser for firing them. I don't understand why we just can't get along with a mutual respect even while having fun blowing each other up.
Tetsujin	Posted - 2006.03.25 16:13:00 - [128] Whether we win or lose in engagements like this, the fact of the matter is that we come out completely unscathed. Our players are all individually wealthy enough to afford to replace their ships without denting their wallet, and we won't be uprooted from our system. If you want to think of yourselves as poiling boiling water on an ant hill, fair enough, but it's an ant hill that won't go away.
Mordocik	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:31:00 - [129] Originally by: KIATolon the goal is to give their pilots combat experience. That is being achieved just fine. Indeed it is, and if that is your only goal its going well I'm sure. Do you not see though that in terms of proclaiming winners and losers its more then a little disingenuous as clearly ANY engagement, whether you "win" or "lose" is going to meet your goal. I put it to you that you are meeting your goal well, but don't expect spectators to agree that its a "win" if you are losing more resources or numbers as this is the most commonly accept meaning of "win" in EVE.
TheBuffoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:38:00 - [130] I don't see why GoonFleet should give a rat's ass as to whether outsiders think they're winning or losing. Either they're making a lot of money and having a good time fighting because they're definitely not being driven from their territory, or they're losing money and the [5] will be coming down soon to eradicate any of the l33tsp34k ****ant corps that think they're awesome because they can shoot precision cruises from 200km away in stabbed out ravens.
Mordocik	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:42:00 - [131] Originally by: TheBuffoon I don't see why GoonFleet should give a rat's ass as to whether outsiders think they're winning or losing. Either they're making a lot of money and having a good time fighting because they're definitely not being driven from their territory, or they're losing money and the [5] will be coming down soon to eradicate any of the l33tsp34k ****ant corps that think they're awesome because they can shoot precision cruises from 200km away in stabbed out ravens. The amusing thing here is you could replace "GoonFleet" with "Penetrate" and it would make just as much sense. Its not just people from my side of the fench proclaiming victories .....
TheBuffoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:45:00 - [132] Yeah, GoonFleet didn't start this thread, chief. Also your CEO sounds like he's 13 years old the way he descends into AOL-speak in every post. Quote: you called the shot now we are on your doorstep whtcha gonna do big boy the carrier got owned you got owned time to take goonfleet back to jita? I can see why people don't really take you guys seriously.
Mordocik	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:48:00 - [133] Originally by: TheBuffoon Yeah, GoonFleet didn't start this thread, chief. Also your CEO sounds like he's 13 years old the way he descends into AOL-speak in every post. Quote: you called the shot now we are on your doorstep whtcha gonna do big boy the carrier got owned you got owned time to take goonfleet back to jita? I can see why people don't really take you guys seriously. ask yourself the question, would ~30 adults follow a leet speaking 13 year old into battle risking billions of isk and resources and more importantly significant amounts of their time? Perhaps all is not what it seems. Then ask yourself the question of what might be the objective of acting in such a way ....
TheBuffoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:49:00 - [134] No, I don't think 30 adults would, but I think anybody can drive the short bus to school.
Mordocik	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:53:00 - [135] Edited by: Mordocik on 25/03/2006 18:54:51 ahh so you retreat into generalizations and insults. Now what were the qualities of people on the short bus again? As a hint, you already said yourself what the purpose of acting in such a way might be ...
TheBuffoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:57:00 - [136] It's probably to annoy everybody else, which would qualify you as teenage and twenty-something trolls. You're no different than any other pack of semi-literate internet tools, you just happen to be more vocal about your ignorance.
Mordocik	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:58:00 - [137] Originally by: TheBuffoon It's probably to annoy everybody else, which would qualify you as teenage and twenty-something trolls. You're no different than any other pack of semi-literate internet tools, you just happen to be more vocal about your ignorance. Nice guess, but as the saying goes "no cigar". I've already given you the hint .. take a moment to think about it.
TheBuffoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 19:00:00 - [138] Wait is this where you pretend you're superior to somebody else on the internet by typing "nice guess" and acting quasi-mysterious, when everybody knows that you're a moron for arguing with somebody's alt?
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.03.25 19:01:00 - [139] It is not only about winning or losing resources, dont forget that in the time it takes your fleet to move to lower syndicate the OSS has usually made more money than they're going to lose in an evening, even if they lose 5-10 or so bs, and 20-50 insured frigs and cruisers..
TheBuffoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 19:03:00 - [140] Let's all pretend lower Syndicate doesn't have 60 belts of crok that OSS are mining, so we can brag about blowing up 100 frigs that cost a grand total of 20M to produce and insured to 15M.
Mordocik	Posted - 2006.03.25 19:04:00 - [141] Originally by: TheBuffoon Wait is this where you pretend you're superior to somebody else on the internet by typing "nice guess" and acting quasi-mysterious, when everybody knows that you're a moron for arguing with somebody's alt? I'm not pretending about anything, if you feel inferior thats your issue. Nor do I think I'm acting particularly mysterious, after all you did say yourself as to why he might be doing it. Nor am I arguing with you, I'm simply pointing a few things out, whether you are an alt or not is irrelevant, you are expressing thoughts and opinions, thats what I am engaging with not your little pixilated representation.
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.03.25 20:50:00 - [142] Originally by: thedragoon Your getting very excited about this arnt you maybe you should chk your losses to us before spouting off... Not really, just pointing out what everybody knows. What little skill you have lies on the forums, not ingame. To word it another way, you have lost 100% of your engagements with us
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.03.25 21:51:00 - [143] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: thedragoon Your getting very excited about this arnt you maybe you should chk your losses to us before spouting off... Not really, just pointing out what everybody knows. What little skill you have lies on the forums, not ingame. To word it another way, you have lost 100% of your engagements with us # not every engagment chk your killboards and if your telling me that skills involve 20 ppl killing 3 and you losing 1 is the skills you got then I dont want to be uber like you ill stay as me K thanks... O and pod u later

Laurelin1420	Posted - 2006.03.25 22:30:00 - [144] Flames ,flames,flames...... Click forum rules \| [email protected]


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