Moving along.

Says the team who jumped 700 dreads into a 2700 man grid

We jumped a dread fleet into bigger numbers before and did just fine.

No you didn't, now you're outright lying.

Meanwhile the carriers are taking out one of these every 4 seconds. If they are smart they can take out one a second as you only need 40 carriers to alpha that ship.

How long do you think it will take before that nado force loses the ability to alpha carriers?

It will take 1600 megathrons before we start to alpha carriers, any fewer and you cannot take them out. So you tell me, who can field subcap armadas of the size needed to kill the capital blobs?

And this is before we get to the issue of the nodes being unable to support any fleet that is able to counter todays capital blobs.

6VDT. We dumped a dread fleet into the fight towards the end.

6VDT. We dumped a dread fleet into the fight towards the end.

So you're comparing jumping a dread fleet in at the end of a fight when most of the fighting was done and numbers were on the decline (near the end) and the field you jumped into was mostly friendly to jumping a dread fleet that massively dwarfs the 6VDT dread fleet in size into a hostile grid at the peak of fighting in the system.

And you don't see how one is not like the other and how your original statement is a lie?

Most of the fighting was not done. The dreads landed at the hight of the battle and broke tests back.

The point is it was jumping massive amounts of players in at the last second that ruined the experience for CFC, not drones. You should plan better next time friend.

Allright, post-nap replyathon!

To someone already on grid, nothin'. They hurt a bit to someone coming on grid, which is why massed container spew on Jita 4-4 is unhappy and we hurt people who do that.

You will never bomb all the drones because you will lose bubbles

This is not true in the slightest bit, like not even close to anything like what actually happened.

Rewriting history while talking to people that were there seems dumb, but coming from you its a non shocker.

Sorry sorry my mistake. You can do it with T3 BCs.

[Tornado, alpha]

8x 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II (Republic Fleet EMP L)

3x Tracking Computer II (Optimal Range Script)
2x Sensor Booster II (Scan Resolution Script)

4x Gyrostabilizer II

2x Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Projectile Locus Coordinator I

[Statistics - Mario Putzo]


Capacitor (Stable at 88.68%)

Volley Damage: 9,213.08
DPS: 511.29
42K Optimal
93K Falloff
and thats will like skills @ 3 and 4. (its over 11000K Alpha with all level 5s)

But hey 1000 of these can't possibly alpha a Carrier. After all you only need a post resist Volley of what 600 per ship with 1K dudes.

Moving along.

I was there. And unlike you, I haven't posted blatant lies in an attempt to defend a horribly overpowered capital blob.

CCP are going to be nerfing your capital hive fleet. Anyone with half a mind could see this coming.

We'd have to load Tremor and shoot from >180km, otherwise we'd still get gunned down by sentries. We'd also need 800+ Tornadoes.

This is ridiculously unrealistic.

[quote=Mario Putzo] We'd also need 800+ Tornadoes.

This is ridiculously unrealistic.

But 700 dreads is cool.

They wont die to a flight of bombs or explode every volley from any fleet let alone the carrier blob. Nados for alphaing capitals in massive fights like these just cannot work.

We'd have to load Tremor and shoot from >180km, otherwise we'd still get gunned down by sentries. We'd also need 800+ Tornadoes.

This is ridiculously unrealistic.

What are you even talking about? Its basic math.

The EM Damage alone is doing over 5K So against a max tanked archon running their hardners ahead of time you need 300 or so to break the tank...Just with the EM Damage. You need around 250 Total With all Damage types of EM accounted for. Against an average fit archon (no Trimarks, not running hardeners but fitted) you need like 100. About 70 if you all have perfect skills.

Also why would you need to be at 180KM? Do Carriers have some kind of extra armor when you are sitting at 40K?

So what you're saying is that you're not going to post any of the 30 odd videos that came out of 6VDT to back up your claim then, and just instead go nanny nanny boo boo.

Fits you, I'd stick with it.

Also why would you need to be at 180KM? Do Carriers have some kind of extra armor when you are sitting at 40K?

The idea of being at 180k is so that they don't take losses at all, its cute, they want to kill capitals with zero risk or effort simply by virtue of outnumbering their opponent and they seem to think nobody will notice.

Pre-Loads system with ~500 ships that each have 10 drones (hrrrm, 1000x5 vs. 500x10), launches and recalls fighterbombers and sentries repeatedly.

Gets free turkey shoot while overwhelming force sits in warp tunnel.

~N3PL~

p.s. I didn't mention the thousands of drones in each carrier

Oh the wonders of tinfoil.

What are you even talking about? Its basic math.

The EM Damage alone is doing over 5K So against a max tanked archon running their hardners ahead of time you need 300 or so to break the tank...Just with the EM Damage. You need around 250 Total With all Damage types of REMP accounted for. Against an average fit archon (no Trimarks, not running hardeners but fitted) you need like 100. About 70 if you all have perfect skills.

Also why would you need to be at 180KM? Do Carriers have some kind of extra armor when you are sitting at 40K?

Not only are you wildly wrong in how many ships you would need to alpha a carrier, you are failing to see that putting your subcaps in range of the carriers means they will be taking out at least one of your nados every volley with their sentries. You very quickly lose the ability to alpha carriers and it just turns into a slaughter. The number you would need are obscene.

Feel free to post some. Meanwhile I will continue to point out that you made an article on the mittani and many posts here stating that a fleet a maelstroms can kill your capital blob despite the fact that the number of ships you gave are mathematically impossible to alpha carriers.

The idea of being at 180k is so that they don't take losses at all, its cute, they want to kill capitals with zero risk or effort simply by virtue of outnumbering their opponent and they seem to think nobody will notice.

No, because being any closer means that the nados will be volleyed as fast as the drone trigger can cycle his TP. If we were to compensate for that and sit closer, we'd have to bring in more nados than the node could handle.

> Blue to half of the supercapitals in the game
> Tells everyone else they want to kill capitals without risk
> Is Grath Telkin