but that isn't fair Carrier fleets just drone assist then watch netflix and make 1 guy do all the work!!!

So riddle me this, how do carriers die to something that can be tanked by abaddons, rokhs and megathrons?

The unanswered question here is if the carriers are so completely invincible, and the CFC/RUS side can already show 700 caps without much issue, why aren't the CFC/RUS just outright winning this war on the backs of the largest carrier flee ever seen?


Its almost like they know theres a way to beat it...

Don't worry an hour ago he learned that a group of 100 well skilled (as in SP) Tornados can Alpha Archons. Takes a while to process that information.

Filling up with Bee tears in here now. Should be a fun friday at work!

Yes, it is terrifying, particularly when only a single person on the other side needs to press only a single button to get perfect alpha every time.

I love going afk and collecting killmails as much as the next guy, but cmon now.

They can't tank that though. It only takes like 20 to Alpha a BS.

You see we did try dropping dreads on your slowcat blob but nobody loaded grid because of the billion sentries on grid

I asked why you're not fielding a carrier ball of your own, not dreads.

I mean obviously carriers aren't defensive only, we've taken more than a few systems with them.

So why won't the CFC runs just run around with 700+ carriers that you should easily be able to field burning down the countryside?

From what Baltec, James, and yourself are saying it should be virtually impossible to stop you if you'd just do that.


But you're not doing that are you, I wonder why that is.

All this ******** talk about gun splitting assumes that the slowcat pilots aren't going to notice that a bunch of tornadoes are yellowboxing them and overheat hardeners, that the slowcat pilots are all flying T2 tanked archons without bonuses, and that the DPS of the tornado fleet isn't being eroded every 3-4 seconds

it defeats spies, it defeats everything along those lines.

Speaking of overheating when yellowboxed what exactly do you do when a single ship with a passive targeter is about to trigger thousands of drones on you?

Drone assist defeats the overview, it defeats spies, it defeats everything along those lines. But keep being apologists~

They are going to be nerfed, and by the looks of it very soon.

100 nados do not have the firepower to alpha a carrier.

we're not using passive targeters at all,



So you'll be not forming Domis anymore since those will be nerfed

How much Isk do you want to put on that?

So you'll be not forming Domis anymore since those will be nerfed or what exactly are you sayin here Baltec, that the CFC hasn't used an invincible carrier blob because it might get nerfed or that you're not using them because theres a counter that we not only know about but would use.

CCP are not only changing drones right now but have also stated that they will be looking into them further. If domi get a nerf and something is better then we will adapt. Unlike you, we have not put all of our faith into a handful of overpowered ships used in a single fleet tactic. Its WN all over again.

Its a simple question you seem to be dodging Baltec

If Boot carriers are so strong where is the CFC carrier blob taking systems like the n3/PL carrier blob?

This should be easy, there should be an easy answer right at your fignertips to give here but so far you, Andski, and James have all just ignored it like its not a thing.

Like I said, its like theres a counter that you know exists, or at least know your enemy knows exists and you're afraid of losing a carrier fleet because of it.

I mean is there some reason the Goon is holding back from using what you're describing as EVE's ultimate weapon?

100 tornadoes might kill an untanked carrier, but not a slowcat

thanks for playing you can send 5bn to this character

No one specified what we were talking about.

The PL Slow Fit can not be hit killed by 100 Nados (that requires about 125 with perfect skills)

But, a Damage Fit Carrier can be, a Rep fit Carrier can be, A travel fit Carrier can be, and yes an Untanked carrier can be alpha'd by 100 Nados.

So ill take 5BN thanks.

thankfully though if the Carrier is fit according to the PL slow profile...they won't be blapping 6 dudes every Arty cycle, they might get 3 dudes if they are lucky...so the 250 F1 and F2 monkeys in Nados can pop 2 carriers for every 3 dudes they lose.

We wont be putting all of our eggs into the carrier basket because they are going to be nerfed, just like the last five times when capitals were invulnerable to subcaps.

"as a hisec miner, let me theorycraft a capital battle for you"

Hint you're wrong on all counts because "travel fit" carriers don't ******* exist in a capital battle

Thanks for ignoring my simple question, it doesn't at all undermine your argument at all to dodge it like that

you should ask your friends in Fountain why we're not throwing around carrier fleets