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babyblue
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Drizit Sorry. See above, I edited after I read it back it cos it wasn't meant to infer you as an indvidual but you beat me to it. 
TouchT!
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Kasak Black
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:51:00 -
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Mate you got you're scaith ruined in 0.4, here is some advice...
Go below 0.5 and prepare for possible PVP combat at every gate, end of story.
If you don't think you will get hurt, don't complain on here when you do. |

crom ralphfao
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:00:00 -
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when you go shopping, open up the map browser to see where the hops are going to take you....also, those hops dont neccesarily need to be taken right away. use the map filters to determine when the player ship kills are low.
the market can be a tricky thing to get used to, start shopping by station, then system, then region.......you might also be within a few jumps of a completely different region and could have avoided unnecessary jumps.
another thing i do is whenever i travel somewhere for a purchase, i take a general look at the market and use the in game note pad to make a notation on particularly good markets hubs.
on the gate camping and low sec stuff.....use your map and all its goodies and if you frequent certain low sec systems, spend the time to make some instas with a shuttle.....even if you get a few thousand kms closer, that could make a difference.......have someone walk you through making a safespot between the gate and somewhere, use this to warp and scan, if all is clear, warp out.
cheers
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Drakus Felborne
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:09:00 -
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My .02 isk:
I hate gankers. I despise them. They are the worst part of any game. They are the 1 percenters of mmo's. They create the worst impression of an online community, resulting in the "only 14-year-old sociopathic parasites whose parents doped them up with ritalin and ignored them are playing these games" image.
But, it's better that these ********* are here, rather than outside, slashing people's tires, setting neighbor's pets on fire, etc..
As much as it sucks, it could be worse. These games just tend to accumulate them, due to them being to cowardly to face the consequences of their tendencies in the real world.
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 28/03/2006 21:33:40 Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 28/03/2006 21:32:46 Some of us (ironicaly some resellers who can lose bilions with one cargo, not just a pathetic t1 ship) actually like to be shot at without any reason when we go to lowsec. We want war, bloodshed, random murder, because that is in our blood. Nothing prevents us from playing singleplayer games, or elfland happy tree hugging online if we want peace and harmony for a change.
When we get blown up, we ask "what did i wrong", not "do these sociopaths put pets on fire while living in their mums basements".
I want to be hunted whereever i go (even high-sec), so that i have to use wits and cunning to survive in eve, not 5 accounts doing freighterruns while im afk. You dont seem to enjoy random bloodshed. I do. If i win, i want to win by my own strength alone. No mercy, no quarter. Not just some gentleman's agreement: you win once, i win once, then we go drink tea.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Argenton Sayvers Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 28/03/2006 21:33:40 Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 28/03/2006 21:32:46 Some of us (ironicaly some resellers who can lose bilions with one cargo, not just a pathetic t1 ship) actually like to be shot at without any reason when we go to lowsec. We want war, bloodshed, random murder, because that is in our blood. Nothing prevents us from playing singleplayer games, or elfland happy tree hugging online if we want peace and harmony for a change.
When we get blown up, we ask "what did i wrong", not "do these sociopaths put pets on fire while living in their mums basements".
I want to be hunted whereever i go (even high-sec), so that i have to use wits and cunning to survive in eve, not 5 accounts doing freighterruns while im afk. You dont seem to enjoy random bloodshed. I do. If i win, i want to win by my own strength alone. No mercy, no quarter. Not just some gentleman's agreement: you win once, i win once, then we go drink tea.
A totally fair and valid opinion imho. But the point is it can be bewildering for a new player (and some older ones). Please edit your post again: exchange Tea for Jack Daniels .
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:45:00 -
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Quote: what possesses 2 guys to sit at a gate and blow away newbies who they know cant even scratch thier shields. Do they get off on the idea of being so powerful they can whipe someone out whos many levels below them in skills and tech who has no chance of fighting back while hes sitting there typing in the chat "stop moving so you can die!"
Gate ganking griefer here. We get off the fact that people like you cry about how we ganked them. It's awesome to see people trying to shift the responsibility of their own stupidity to other places, not because anyone actually takes them seriously on the issue, but because self-deceit and denial are the two most pathetically amusing characteristics of human beings.
So please, continue crying a river about how people are immature and how you had no chance to fight back bla bla bla. Continue to do so, while those twice as smart as you and ten times better at judging themselves fit nanofibers, smack on a mwd and cruise past 2 battlecruiser gatecamps in 0.4 systems with no trouble.
I swear, some people would whine that zerg rushing in starcraft is immature and lame if they failed to stop it (Which btw is easy).
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Morgana Janan
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:48:00 -
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General rule for EVE, to quote a show I like: If someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back!
That's EVE in a nutshell. At least to me. ______________________________________________
When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite. |

Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Incantus
I get to the jumpgate 15km from it when I find 2 Battlecrusiers sitting there warpscrabling me and firing all their weapons at me.
It sounds like you werent paying attention or were semi-afk.
A lesson learnt at the school of hard knocks.
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Alberta
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 28/03/2006 16:16:29
Sorry for the bad time in EvE. EvE is a game that seems to attract would be psychos around the world.
 
I'll take that as a confession and walk on by pretending I didn't see you standing there with that big axe.
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O'Sirius
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Posted - 2006.03.28 22:19:00 -
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blah, blah, blah, I got blown up, blah, blah... blah, blah, blah, live and learn, blah, blah...
Now to make something productive out of this post, I've been playing this game for about 8 months now and I don't know how to make these "instas" you guys are talking about, someone care to enlighten me? I assume you're talking about waypoints? But then don't you still only warp to within 15km to them? So then why would just jumping to the gate would be differnt?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.28 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/03/2006 22:21:30
Someone killed me in Unreal Tournament the other day.
I hate people who kill me while playing Unreal Tournament.
******* sociopaths. **** them. We should all just join hands and be friends 
For those who are blind, this post is satire.
[23] Member: Official Forum Warrior
What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
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Toksin
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Posted - 2006.03.28 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/03/2006 22:21:30
Someone killed me in Unreal Tournament the other day.
I hate people who kill me while playing Unreal Tournament.
******* sociopaths. **** them. We should all just join hands and be friends 
For those who are blind, this post is satire.
Seriously. Unreal Tournament is a ******* CAREBEAR GAME. Geeez.
But, seriously. When I lost my first ship to pirates/people(It was in 0.0, so..), I was angry, confused, angry, and sad, and angered. (*Looks pointedly at BoB*) I had all of my worth in skillboks in that shuttle. The weird thing is, I HAD INSTAS, but didn't know how to use them..... But, anyway, I didn't understand why 3 HACs(*Looks pointedly at BoB*) would kill a SHUTTLE. Then I grew a pair. And went and got my revenge, later on. --------------- My views do not reflect the views of my corp, or my own views. |

Jin Entres
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Posted - 2006.03.28 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
For those who are blind, this post is satire.
You should post that in touch letters because the blind can't see it!
Umm, and on topic ...
What's wrong with people?
First off, drawing conclusions about other people's motivations, intentions and even personality and permanent characteristics (often based on stereotypes) based on insufficient information, and often bias.
Secondly, blaming others for one's own mistakes or expecting the world to change to accomodate one's own needs.
That's two things, for now.
Try not to be so narrow-minded. Live and learn, adapt and move on.
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Virvana Sharpur
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Posted - 2006.03.28 23:57:00 -
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The last few days, I am very much suprised at how tame the vast majority of losec space actually is. One could survive for days out there and never meet a threatening player.
Its live and let live in many cases. In fact, most of losec is abandoned.
Its a different matter entirely in the gates from 0.4 and below, leading to systems 0.5 and above. There one will find some of the most powerful characters and ships in the game who exist for no other reason than to prevent pilots from travelling between hisec and losec.
One cannot reason with these people, or bargan with them. They will destroy ships for no other reason than they can. Whether or not the ship is a threat means nothing. Whether or not the ship is carrying valuable cargo means nothing. They'll do it even if it ends up losing them ISK.
____________ "Give me one frigate pilot with faith, over an armada of a thousand battleships." --Virvana mons Sharpur, The Fleet Prayer |

gfldex
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Posted - 2006.03.29 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: babyblue
Approximately 2% of people are Sociopaths. That is, they don't really do Empathy or Sympathy - these two emotions are important enablers of harmony in group behaviour.
Most gates are camped by _groups_. I would say you just proven yourself wrong.
-- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.03.29 00:55:00 -
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Meh, I love roaming low sec in a rupture and taking on stuff bigger than me :D  -
                        You got pwnd by us too :P - Wrangler lol - Imaran |

Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.03.29 00:58:00 -
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Gate camping IMO always has been and always will be ghey...
I've been the victim, and the killer.
They suck when you die from them, and they are boring as hell when you are camping them...
It's the way of EVE however as the DEV's seem to like it this way.
You'll just have to get used to it... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
My Hero
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2006.03.29 01:02:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 29/03/2006 01:02:56 uhm, this post made me think a lot...
You said battlecruisers ? They had to tank the sentry guns, if they were able to scramble you at the gate. I've no clue. Is this possible e.g. in a ferox ? I've never tried to tank sentries and I don't fly ferox. If this works, it's at least .... interesting.  ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.' |

gfldex
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Posted - 2006.03.29 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Snake Jankins They had to tank the sentry guns, if they were able to scramble you at the gate.
A prophecy can tank 2 sentries until it runs out of cap charges (around 3 minutes).
-- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.03.29 01:25:00 -
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Some words about piracy and gate camping. I'm watching anything that devs say and write very carefully and I have noticed that one term is used over and over again. It is "player created content".
I was wondering why the sec status and bounty system is as it is. Because it actualy is not providing anything like safety. By thinking about player created content and piracy I found an explanation I feel confortable with.
In EVE we have regions with better resources but higher risk. At least it's called low sec. But without the help of players low sec would not be risky at all. There are no fat NPC bosses that spawn by random next beside you and pwn you. It's me (some times) how spawns next beside you. When I come and try to hunt you down (there are ppl who know how to run but luckyly they are seldom) I provide content to you and others by giving the term low sec a meaning.
The OP used the word immature twice. How can you call players immature while _you_ come to the forum, insult ppl and whine about business as usual?
-- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2006.03.29 01:40:00 -
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Edited by: Wendat Huron on 29/03/2006 01:46:05 Take their names down and make it your business to kill them and their associates every chance you get, with enough people on their backs they'll do little else but run.
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Vikram Bedi
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Posted - 2006.03.29 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex Some words about piracy and gate camping. I'm watching anything that devs say and write very carefully and I have noticed that one term is used over and over again. It is "player created content".
I was wondering why the sec status and bounty system is as it is. Because it actualy is not providing anything like safety. By thinking about player created content and piracy I found an explanation I feel confortable with.
In EVE we have regions with better resources but higher risk. At least it's called low sec. But without the help of players low sec would not be risky at all. There are no fat NPC bosses that spawn by random next beside you and pwn you. It's me (some times) how spawns next beside you. When I come and try to hunt you down (there are ppl who know how to run but luckyly they are seldom) I provide content to you and others by giving the term low sec a meaning.
The OP used the word immature twice. How can you call players immature while _you_ come to the forum, insult ppl and whine about business as usual?
I'm a n00b who just got unapologetically ganked for absolutely no reason other than the fact that ganking noobs is what gets the "gankers" pecker hard, and I'd like to echo this posters sentiments. When you're playing a standard single player game you don't ask "why did that goomba kill me?" You just accept that the other characters that aren't YOU in the game may be trying to kill you for whatever reason they have. Now, single player games gradually increase the danger in direct relation to your skill level, that is, you can't get into the "high danger" part of the game until you've beaten the "low danger", "medium danger", and "medium-high" danger, thus proving that you're capable of handling the tough stuff. Eve gives you the same levels of danger, but let's you pick where you want to go. .4 and lower are the last levels of the game. If you (like me) prefer to jump in above your head and play a more difficult game in relative to your skill level, don't complain when it takes more lives to get used to it. You can always stay at level 1 for a while, and if these guys didn't provide danger to the noobs, then there would be no reason to stay in high sec, as there would be no real "risk" to counter the reward that low sec offers.
I certainly knew the dangers of taking a poorly outfitted destroyer into .4. That I lasted a little more than a day is a victory in my mind, rather than a loss. The only beating I regret is the one that doesn't teach me something. Even still, I'm gonna level up some and go looking for the zit popper that poached my half shielded, just-got-finished-taking-out-a-cruiser catalyst...
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.03.29 02:25:00 -
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On teh Flip side it feels great to get past a gate camp thinking "hahahaha up yours mate, worse luck next time" ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |

Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.03.29 02:29:00 -
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oh well best bet is to remember their names and seek revenge someday, but you will need major backup in the tackling end since gate campers probally have all their lows filled with WCS.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.29 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker oh well best bet is to remember their names and seek revenge someday, but you will need major backup in the tackling end since gate campers probally have all their lows filled with WCS.
No gatecamper will ever tank sentries with lows full of WCS .
I think you're talking about snipers, and even they mostly have damage mods in lows.
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Sir Juri
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Posted - 2006.03.29 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Incantus (first of all let me say, I forgot to pay attention and bought 2 skillbooks 1 8 jumps from me the other 12 jumps from there)
so Im making an 8 jump run from a 0.6-0.4 sec of space to pick up a skill book, I get there in my Cormorant without a scratch. I pick up the book and decide to buy a few more gunnery skills there since they were cheaper at that particular station. I then undock from the station and turn on autopilot to begin my next jump trip for the other book.
I get to the jumpgate 15km from it when I find 2 Battlecrusiers sitting there warpscrabling me and firing all their weapons at me. I know its the way of life out in 0.4 sec or lower but seriously... what possesses 2 guys to sit at a gate and blow away newbies who they know cant even scratch thier shields. Do they get off on the idea of being so powerful they can whipe someone out whos many levels below them in skills and tech who has no chance of fighting back while hes sitting there typing in the chat "stop moving so you can die!"
Major lack of maturity 
I send my grat's to the BC pilots, nice job we need ppl like you, without you ppl like Nova will never know what he pays for (EVE is about PVP? .)
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.03.29 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Vikram Bedi .4 and lower are the last levels of the game.
You don't need skills to use insta. You don't need skills to use the map. You don't need skills to ask a corp mate to scout befor you.
But you have to be willing to learn how to do it. And that's what most ppl lack of. They prefere to come to the forums and insult ppl.
Luckyly I can do something about it. You are not save in a frig or shuttle in 1.0 when I'm around. And I give a *beep* how you call me afterward.
-- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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Gah'khaz
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Posted - 2006.03.29 02:44:00 -
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you don't need skills to stay out of low sec until you can handle it either..
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Drakus Felborne
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Posted - 2006.03.29 02:52:00 -
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Unfortunatly, studying the map only goes so far. You can't tell if that 1 pilot in space is a shuttle or a carrier that just logged in.
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