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Nova Incantus	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:25:00 - [1] (first of all let me say, I forgot to pay attention and bought 2 skillbooks 1 8 jumps from me the other 12 jumps from there) so Im making an 8 jump run from a 0.6-0.4 sec of space to pick up a skill book, I get there in my Cormorant without a scratch. I pick up the book and decide to buy a few more gunnery skills there since they were cheaper at that particular station. I then undock from the station and turn on autopilot to begin my next jump trip for the other book. I get to the jumpgate 15km from it when I find 2 Battlecrusiers sitting there warpscrabling me and firing all their weapons at me. I know its the way of life out in 0.4 sec or lower but seriously... what possesses 2 guys to sit at a gate and blow away newbies who they know cant even scratch thier shields. Do they get off on the idea of being so powerful they can whipe someone out whos many levels below them in skills and tech who has no chance of fighting back while hes sitting there typing in the chat "stop moving so you can die!" Major lack of maturity ---------------------- If you build it, they will come and attack it. Nova Incantus - [SAK]
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:28:00 - [2] ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Originally by: Tuxford we look at them say "wow autocannons sure do suck,... oh well lets go boost amarr".
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:29:00 - [3] oh wait, you're being serious In 0.4 and below, people can shoot you, so they will. End of story. Originally by: Tuxford we look at them say "wow autocannons sure do suck,... oh well lets go boost amarr".
Max Teranous	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:33:00 - [4] A classic case of NBSI everywhere. You should ask yourself, what did you do to stop them shooting you? Scan the gate before warping there? Check local? Use an insta? Use a small fast ship with MWD to run a blockade? Max
DoctorDanny	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:37:00 - [5] I feel very bad for your loss. It is a very sad thing that people camp gates in empire and actually try to kill people there!
Hardin	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:39:00 - [6] An Executioner with two Internal Nanofibres and an MWD will get you past any gate in the game provided you ain't afking - perfect taxi and perfect for going to buy skill books... --------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists since Sept 2003
Gungankllr	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:48:00 - [7] That, my friend, in a nutshell, is Eve. People that have just joined Eve won't get it whatsoever, as most MMO's spoonfeed you and make things all carebearsy, where if you die... who cares! Eve makes you think. Eve makes you paranoid. Eve makes you 100% of the time pay attention to what you're doing, because if you don't, you'll end up dead faster than the snap of your fingers. Why did they kill you? Because you let them. As a previous poster said, when you jump into a system that has a security rating of less than .5- you can get killed rather easily without concord intervening. Why did they kill a ship that obviously had no chance of defending itself? Because you sat there long enough to get targeted. Also, don't think I'm not a little sympathetic, my first week (about 2.5 years ago, I reckon) I got my brand new Moa smoked in a low sec system by a couple of pirates spamming torpedos from their cruisers (yeah, that long ago...) And I made a post just like this one, because I just didn't get it. Welcome to Eve.
KaraThrace	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:54:00 - [8] Thats why we tell newbies to stay out of .4 and below for the first month or so....
Rellik B00n	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:54:00 - [9] because they could welcome to eve! .
Max Teranous	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:55:00 - [10] Oops, I forgot to add to my post: Yarr ! Max

James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:01:00 - [11] Welcome to EVE. I appreciate that the PvP side can seem a real deterrant at times. However, it's also the best feature EVE has. No, not the fact that people at camps gank you. I can't think of many incidences where that doesn't suck (well, unless you're the one doing the ganking). But the thing that's _good_ is the freedom. The fact that they _can_. It may seem unfair, but realise that you can do exactly the same thing back. There's a certain measure of 'backup' provided by CONCORD and sentry guns, but it won't ever be 100% secure. Only place where that's the case is docked in a station. So yes, it's evil and mean of them. But you are empowered to control your own destiny. Will you hide in 0.5+ evermore, because you fear another player? Or will you take up the gauntlet and strike back? Or even decide that you're filled with bitterness, and take up gate ganking as your hobby as well. The freedom to choose is what makes EVE great. -- We are recruiting We sell carriers.
Niccolado Starwalker	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:07:00 - [12] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 28/03/2006 16:07:23 Originally by: Gungankllr That, my friend, in a nutshell, is Eve. QFE. Thats EVE allrite But next time you old scurvy vets start to ask yourself/whine why many noobs never leave high sec, ask yourself it this case might have something with it I have now played for 4 months. AND I LOVE THE GAME! Last weekend I felt bold and powerful in my brand new battlecruiser! Lots of great weapons u dig? So I decided to take it out for a voyage. Down to the local .4 sector, for some ratting. And what happend? Entered .4 space and was podded within 5 minutes. Its EVE. I accept it. its the way of the game. But I also understood pretty fast, that until I can get better or to be in a larger group low sec aint for me! So, for the next few months I will hang around in high sec. I dont whine bout it. i dont complain bout it. I just want to explor and have fun. But I understand that I am now ready. So, ill hold my breath a while longer. ...or at least till I can get another Battlecruiser and I have forgot this incident
Teles666	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:12:00 - [13] Is this a new mini profession? Make an alt and troll the forums?
Abraxus	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:13:00 - [14] I have exactly zero sympathy for someone getting blown up in <0.4 Know the risks or don't go there.
Abraxus	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:15:00 - [15] Originally by: Gungankllr Eve makes you think. Eve makes you paranoid. Eve makes you 100% of the time pay attention to what you're doing, because if you don't, you'll end up dead faster than the snap of your fingers. That reminds me of my first trip to 0.0 OMG it was an amazing experience considering I was still in the same game
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:16:00 - [16] Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 28/03/2006 16:16:29 Sorry for the bad time in EvE. EvE is a game that seems to attract would be psychos around the world. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Nova Incantus	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:16:00 - [17] Originally by: James Lyrus Welcome to EVE. There's a certain measure of 'backup' provided by CONCORD and sentry guns, but it won't ever be 100% secure. Only place where that's the case is docked in a station. So yes, it's evil and mean of them. But you are empowered to control your own destiny. Will you hide in 0.5+ evermore, because you fear another player? Or will you take up the gauntlet and strike back? Or even decide that you're filled with bitterness, and take up gate ganking as your hobby as well. The freedom to choose is what makes EVE great. ---------------------- If you build it, they will come and attack it. Nova Incantus - [SAK]
Finix Jaeger	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:21:00 - [18] Originally by: DoctorDanny I feel very bad for your loss. It is a very sad thing that people camp gates in empire and actually try to kill people there! Yes, ppl can be very nasty... ------------------------- Rover Vitesse > Finix, i am not going to go all the way tonight
Nova Incantus	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:24:00 - [19] Concord is useless to me, the 2 times I've had my can popped while mining the other player wasn't flagged then when I shot at them on instinct Concord nuked me. And no... I dont expect any sort of Carebear fantacy world from this game, I would however expect some of you to grow a pair and go out and take on people your own size instead of just accepting it as the standard you live by and that is what **es me off I bet many of you have even done it yourselves. but anyway, no im not going to hide in 0.5 space if I got to go to 0.4 or lower then thats a chance I got to take. About the only useful advice on this thread I've seen is someone reminding me to check the local.... while instas are nice you cant use an insta to a gate you haven't been to before. As for typing into local "please stop shooting me" theres not much else you can do when warping to agate then blown away ---------------------- If you build it, they will come and attack it.** Nova Incantus - [SAK]
babyblue	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:27:00 - [20] Approximately 2% of people are Sociopaths. That is, they don't really do Empathy or Sympathy - these two emotions are important enablers of harmony in group behaviour. Eve obviously being a PvP game will attract a higher proportion of these people than 2%, so you can expect (random guess) maybe 10% of people to behave like this - they are more than likely camping a 0.4 gate near you. You can avoid them however, but you may need some new skills - like how to make and use instas.

Zeonog	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:27:00 - [21] I don't get it? Your saying people should gate camp? Thats how they choose to play the game. Yes its unfair but thats life. Maybe you should grow a pair and stop complaining?
Galk	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:28:00 - [22] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 28/03/2006 16:16:29 Sorry for the bad time in EvE. EvE is a game that seems to attract would be psychos around the world. Ofcourse it does, eve is a game where your pretty much free to do as you wish ( trust me iv'e had the full sp on that from those above) Anything goes!!!! (well atleast when it was coming my way anyway) Your allways going to get it here, from day one when people were insta poping newbs undocking from 1.0 stations... from the good ol days of jump in point camping next to newb starter systems, to people camping en mass at low sec mission route choke points. Thats eve, for all it's wonderfull idea of fantasy, there's a harsh reality that gets totaly ignored when these topics come up. ______ Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free. We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
Nova Incantus	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:31:00 - [23] Originally by: babyblue You can avoid them however, but you may need some new skills - like how to make and use instas. you obviously missed the part where you cant use instas for somewhere you've never been before... thank you for playing though ---------------------- If you build it, they will come and attack it. Nova Incantus - [SAK]
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:33:00 - [24] Edited by: Nyphur on 28/03/2006 16:34:46 Originally by: Nova Incantus And no... I dont expect any sort of Carebear fantacy world from this game, I would however expect some of you to grow a pair and go out and take on people your own size instead of just accepting it as the standard you live by and that is what ****es me off I bet many of you have even done it yourselves. Hate to say it but you won't get very far with that attitude in eve. Pirates used to let young characters with frigates go past their camps. Then people started abusing their trust by hauling zydrine in from 0.0 in a frigate on a newbie character and saying they were a new player who was lost if they came into a gatecamp. I know this because I used to do it back 1-2 years ago. Also, frigates are used a lot to transport blueprints, soemtimes of very high value, specifically because a frigate has the speed to break through a pirate gatecamp before most larger ships can lock onto them and most often it can get past a sniper at a gate too. But it needs a good microwarpdrive to do so, which will take a new character a few weeks to train for. There's a lot less honour in piracy these days and there's a lot of pointless ganking. I've seen fleets follow my empty shuttle scouts in 0.0 just to have something to blow up. I think some of it comes from the myths of people transporting T2 bpos in shuttles and getting ganked by someone who was bored but most of it is just plain human nature. These guys love to blow us up, that's what they do. They wear that negative security status like a badge of honour and take every opportunity to increase it. There are ways to get around getting killed in low sec and even 0.0, but there's a reason we tell the new guys to stay out of it. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Toros Revoke	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:35:00 - [25] This is why we have shuttles, fast, made of tin foil, disposable. Try not to hold a grudge, you'll find this happens a lot. There is a fine line between Genius and Insanity. Make sure you take your shoes off before you cross it.
babyblue	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:37:00 - [26] Originally by: Nova Incantus Originally by: babyblue You can avoid them however, but you may need some new skills - like how to make and use instas. you obviously missed the part where you cant use instas for somewhere you've never been before... thank you for playing though No, the important thing is to realise you will be going through from high sec to low sec and that this is probably one of the most dangerous locations in Eve, apart from D7 . In this case, you have to resist the temptation to leg it through with your size 12's and stop for a second to think about it. Solutions: (1) Get an alt to scout the gate for you from a good scanning position. (2) Make insta marks through the system to/from so you don't have to run to the gate. (3) Don't buy stuff in low sec (<0.5) period if you don't want to do (1) or (2). (4) If you have the skills, use covert ops or interceptor with MWD. It isn't always a good idea to grab the Rugby ball and go Pillocking up the field.
Dr Smacktalk	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:37:00 - [27] Originally by: Nova Incantus (first of all let me say, I forgot to pay attention and bought 2 skillbooks 1 8 jumps from me the other 12 jumps from there) so Im making an 8 jump run from a 0.6-0.4 sec of space to pick up a skill book, I get there in my Cormorant without a scratch. I pick up the book and decide to buy a few more gunnery skills there since they were cheaper at that particular station. I then undock from the station and turn on autopilot to begin my next jump trip for the other book. I get to the jumpgate 15km from it when I find 2 Battlecrusiers sitting there warpscrabling me and firing all their weapons at me. I know its the way of life out in 0.4 sec or lower but seriously... what possesses 2 guys to sit at a gate and blow away newbies who they know cant even scratch thier shields. Do they get off on the idea of being so powerful they can whipe someone out whos many levels below them in skills and tech who has no chance of fighting back while hes sitting there typing in the chat "stop moving so you can die!" Major lack of maturity Poor PVPERS. They are not great pvpers so they cannot engage targets that have loads of skillpoints and actual pvp experience. Have you noticed that they only engage nooblets, and non combat ships? Most of these players come from the world of Counterstrike and Quake III arena or WoW graduates and its all about getitng as many kills in one day as possible. They will camp the gate for hours on end. Usually they camp 150KM from gate, aligned to safespots.
Nova Incantus	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:44:00 - [28] ...size 14s actually ---------------------- If you build it, they will come and attack it. Nova Incantus - [SAK]
Vladimir Ilych	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:54:00 - [29] happen to me too. first destroyer and a -10 sec rating pirate in an apoc camping a gate killed me in 2 seconds flat. now i live in 0.0 and barley fear low sec as I know what precautions to take. learn from your mistakes and dont let it put you off.
Galk	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:56:00 - [30] Edited by: Galk on 28/03/2006 16:57:16 Originally by: Nyphur There's a lot less honour in piracy these days and there's a lot of pointless ganking. Your obviously are not aware that people used to sit outside 1.0 starter system stations back in 03 and gank new players as they undocked for the first time Highsec in the early days was as much a gankzone as lowsec is these days. ______ Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free. We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran



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