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Sevena Black
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.15 10:51:00 -
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The launcher would be a good idea if it increases your ability to launch EVE. That means you should be able to configure the way it works:
It replaces the current login screen
Allows server selection (SiSi, Tranquality etc)
It allows the launch of multiple clients
Patching should be specified for each client
Ability to preset launched characters per account
No advertisement / option to disable
Simply put: I click launch and things become easier and faster than they are now. |
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CCP Mandrake
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.15 11:22:00 -
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Tidwald wrote:CCP Mandrake wrote:Finally, after serveral cups of coffee, i've finished reading all posts and got some pointers going forward making the launcher. ......
7. It need to behave nicely in a Windows environment - IT MUST NOT go changing access permissions to the 'C:\Program Files\CCP\SiSi' directory same applies to 'C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE' when rolled out to live. When first run, launcher.exe asks for elevated privileges to lowerfolderprivs. I have no problems with allowing the elevated privileges when there is a clear need - such as when applying an update. But, changing the folder permissions to side-step the in built security is not acceptable. When first run, after being updated with the SiSiLauncher, launcher appeared to download an update, ask for elevated privileges to run the updater (which is what I would expect), and an error dialog pops up "Errors occurred" - the logfile contains the following: Traceback (most recent call last): File "launcher.py", line 29, in module File "localization\__init__.pyc", line 34, in LoadLocalizationData File "localization\localization.pyc", line 31, in __init__ File "localization\localization.pyc", line 58, in _LoadLanguageData File "xml\dom\minidom.pyc", line 1911, in parse File "xml\dom\expatbuilder.pyc", line 922, in parse IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'launcher/localization.xml'That file 'launcher/localization.xml' exists, and existed before launcher was run. Why are you changing the folder permissions? It can't be to allow the updater to run, as it correctly asks for elevated privileges. The main eve program correctly uses more appropriate locations for logs 'C:\Users\xxxxxx\Documents\EVE\logs' and specific folders under 'C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE'. The launcher appears to write its main log to the later location so there really is no need to change the permissions on the Sisi folder under "Program Files".
The reason for changing the folder security settings is so that you don-¦t have to get that popup asking for raised privileges every time you run the launcher, as you do right now when you run the installer, patches and repair tool. It only does this for the eve client folder, but the launcher will notice any file that is not in a state it is supposed to be in and "update" it to how it-¦s supposed to be. That makes up for lowering the folder security settings.
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Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.15 11:34:00 -
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Didn't read all pages but chiming in what I think many others will also say;
Everyone who plays EVE "for real" has multiple accounts. Make a launcher that patches multiple EVE clients on same PC smoothly and in one go. I don't want to run launcher three times to patch three clients for three accounts. I want to run it once.
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Aethlyn
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Posted - 2011.11.15 14:22:00 -
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You can launch multiple clients from one folder while faking multiple installations. See my post earlier in this thread. This solution not only saves CCP dev time, it also keeps the launcher clean and easy to use, even for starters just testing the waters with only one account. You can't patch multiple files at once (without multiplying the work), so in the end the laziest solution would be to create/update hard-copies of all files, but then again I prefer the symbolic link solution. Looking for more thoughts? Read my blog or follow me on Twitter. |
La Merovingian
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.11.15 17:01:00 -
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Tidwald wrote:Mohr Cowbell wrote:Salpun wrote:
Sisi currently works for me. Using the sisi launcher forcing a repair did not add the new functionality. Did the Win7 64bit files not get updated?
The new files are there and a launcher exe that is 458 KB is size is in the folder but does not run anything when clicked on.
Same issue here on Win7-64. When I run the launcher, I can see the process appear in task manager for about a second, then it goes away. I also tried right-clicking the shortcut and selecting Run as Administrator. Exactly the same here, but on Win7-32.
CCP Mandrake, I'm quoting this again for emphasis.
There are several of us having this problem, and it wasn't mentioned after you had read all previous 200+ posts, my friend.
I'm sure the community would be more than happy to help troubleshoot this if you have some suggestions. |
Xendrais
Order Of The Star
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Posted - 2011.11.15 19:12:00 -
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Very nice tool.
Could you add / change the way the Play button reacts AFTER you have clicked it. Presently it is not giving any feedback I can see confirming i have indeed clicked it and are only waiting for the game to start. Also, maybe it should be grayed out while the game is being updated / repaired. |
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CCP Mandrake
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.16 12:31:00 -
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La Merovingian wrote:Tidwald wrote:Mohr Cowbell wrote:Salpun wrote:
Sisi currently works for me. Using the sisi launcher forcing a repair did not add the new functionality. Did the Win7 64bit files not get updated?
The new files are there and a launcher exe that is 458 KB is size is in the folder but does not run anything when clicked on.
Same issue here on Win7-64. When I run the launcher, I can see the process appear in task manager for about a second, then it goes away. I also tried right-clicking the shortcut and selecting Run as Administrator. Exactly the same here, but on Win7-32. CCP Mandrake, I'm quoting this again for emphasis. There are several of us having this problem, and it wasn't mentioned after you had read all previous 200+ posts, my friend. I'm sure the community would be more than happy to help troubleshoot this if you have some suggestions.
So i-¦m hoping this is the embedded browser causing this, we are working on replacing the current internet explorer browser with chromium, an update will be sent out as soon as that is ready.
but if you do care to help, it would be most helpful to get the launcher log file, it is located under "%localappdata%\CCP\EVE\c_program_files_ccp_eve" and is called launcher.log (the last folder name depends on where your eve install is located). stuff |
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.11.16 12:36:00 -
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Just worked for me. Kicked me off all my eve installs.
One issue the animation on my launcher is not moveing. after I hit enter it works but not before. There is a bug report in for this not filtered yet.
Win7-32 bit works fine though. Its odd |
Aethlyn
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Posted - 2011.11.16 16:22:00 -
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The launcher issues (launcher disappears after patching) might be related to missing quotes around paths that might (and here do) contain spaces?
Quote:2011-11-09 20:45:27,878 - INFO - cmd: C:\Users\***\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\e_games_eve online (singularity)\updater.exe /path=e:\games\eve online (singularity) /url="http://cdn1.eveonline.com/EveOnlineLauncher/launcherupdate_0_21.dat" /execute=launcher.exe Looking for more thoughts? Read my blog or follow me on Twitter. |
Tara Nighthawk
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.17 22:53:00 -
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WOW has this - although at least there it can be turned off.
Either:
1. I play EVE
2. I update EVE
I don't want to do both at once. Since Incarna the game has been slow and jerky and unstable. Why would we still need something else to use up processing power and graphics capability?
Thankyou for the return of Ship Spinning. Now we can turn off the identical CQs and try to play the game. Occasionally, we can even undock or jump through a gate without the game freezing or crashing. It is especially hard to play a Gallente as there is always the fear of losing my drones when the game freezes up - not to mention getting my arse shot off as the interface stops responding and I have to relog to get it back.
Please concentrate on fixing the game so we can play at flying our ships around in space. If we wanted to watch little avatars running around in the Captain's Quarters, we could play SecondLife or The Sims3 - both of which allow much more variety in the avatar creation and the environment. The fact that The Sims3 has also been flaky since the Pets Expansion is neither here nor there.
Edit - Quote:The launcher is currently only available on Windows. That means that if you are playing EVE on a Mac you wonGÇÖt be able to enjoy it, our apologies.
This is the best news ever. So this crap is dumped on the Windows people and those of us on the Mac get to keep updating and running the game separate? We even get to keep the animated login screen. Thankyou CCP
One last point. Please stop giving us extra 'features' which nobody actually wants and make the game playable again - in spaceships - in space |
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Thaylon Sen
The Istari Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.11.18 09:52:00 -
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Is it just me or does the launcher not show how much is due to be downloaded? It needs to. |
Viktor Starwind
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.18 18:57:00 -
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For me launcher just didnt launch. It appears in process list for a second and than closes without any visible effects on screen. Win XP SP2 32bit. |
NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:23:00 -
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I had a chance to try the launcher. Actually didn't mind it and it worked well.
Couple of suggestions:
1. toggle between SISI and TQ 2. More color was too bland 3. Backup / restore settings / import fittings buttons
Anyway keep the ideas flowing. We have a game to save. |
Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.24 20:13:00 -
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The launcher doesn't work for me either. I Support the Goons! |
rootimus maximus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.25 16:07:00 -
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I love the general idea, but steam keeps my games updated while only taking up the space of a system tray icon. Any chance we could have the Eve launcher do the same? |
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CCP Mandrake
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.28 17:48:00 -
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Aethlyn wrote:The launcher issues (launcher disappears after patching) might be related to missing quotes around paths that might (and here do) contain spaces? Quote:2011-11-09 20:45:27,878 - INFO - cmd: C:\Users\***\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\e_games_eve online (singularity)\updater.exe /path=e:\games\eve online (singularity) /url="http://cdn1.eveonline.com/EveOnlineLauncher/launcherupdate_0_21.dat" /execute=launcher.exe
This could indeed be the cause of the launcher startup issue.
i have already fixed the missing quotes, but those that are having this issue never get that fix since the need to be able to update first... a bit of a catch-22
but there is a workaround, if the launcher doesnt start up, you can temporarily rename your eve folder so that it doesn't contain any spaces, run the launcher and it should then be able to update it self. then you can rename your eve folder back to contain spaces.
You can also run the repair tool to fix the launcher with the command: repair.exe --url=http://content.eveonline.com/321233/RepairData_321233.dat --whitelist=launcher/*
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Aethlyn
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Posted - 2011.11.28 20:54:00 -
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Probably won't work. When I tried, repair.exe (when I had the issues) I had issues running from a path with spaces inside (as reported earlier). Unless that has been fixed too and is somehow patched already.
Never had issues using the classic SiSiLauncher tool, though.
Edit: Right now I'm unable to patch SiSi using the launcher.
It stalls after exactly 5%/28.25 KB (running version 0.26; after updating).
The debug log is empty.
I also noticed that both links, "Repair" and "Settings" open the settings window. Looking for more thoughts? Read my blog or follow me on Twitter. |
Mibad
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.11.30 05:25:00 -
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Any ETA when this will hit TQ or time frame you would like to complete this neat little bit of tech? |
Kallie Rae
NorCorp Security AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2011.12.03 15:47:00 -
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Wondering the same, thought it would be included in the expansion, but doesn't look like it... |
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CCP Cascade
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Posted - 2011.12.05 15:39:00 -
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The launcher will be released when it is ready. Expect at least another dev blog and feedback opportunities before it is deployed. Associate Technical Producer - Core Technology Group |
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Neo Agricola
BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2011.12.05 15:53:00 -
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CCP Cascade wrote:The launcher will be released when it is ready. Expect at least another dev blog and feedback opportunities before it is deployed.
I like the new attitude of CCP
Thx for the Info.
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Mibad
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.12.06 00:55:00 -
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Good to know this hasn't been lost under the carpet. Can't wait for it CCP <3 |
Brakoo
Shiva
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Posted - 2011.12.10 02:00:00 -
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Whether or not this has been mentioned, I think integrating the Sisi Launcher into the regular launcher would make for getting onto singularity that much easier.
Some kind of option to toggle what server you are connecting to, one that doesn't involve appending files and shortcuts for example. |
Sieges
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.03 17:34:00 -
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The new Launcher should be made as transparently as possible to the players. I'd rather not have to press "Play" to get into the game every time...
I do really like the ability to change screen resolutions before launch. My laptop runs 1366x768 on its built-in screen and 1680x1050 when I am docked and using my external monitor. It would be very cool if the Launcher could auto-detect and run EVE full-screen in whichever resolution I happen to be running in. If I could have that, then pressing "Play" would be Ok |
Ryo Ishikawa
Cryptonym Sleepers Moon Warriors
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:08:00 -
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Please, just please.
For ****'s sake, test it with wine. Eve works. SiSi launcher works. Installer works. Patcher works.
We (Linux users) don't need another potential point of failure in an already tricky to get working but otherwise fine game, just to show some more flashy graphics.
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13 nonames
Jumpbridg KnightRaven Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.23 23:22:00 -
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the idea is nice but everytime i open my sisi server it takes me back to tq when it put me on your new loader and says sisi has not updated |
Planek
Shiva Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2012.02.28 07:06:00 -
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With the current client I am able to launch multiple clients quickly. At some points times 10 clients at one time. With the new launcher I have to start multiple launchers and then launch the clients individually from those.
Feature Request: Add the ability to launch multiple clients. Leave the large "Launch button" but below it on a much shorter button, have a "Launch..." button or something similar that opens a menu for "Launch multiple clients", "Settings", "or any other feature requests that are coming in. Clicking on the launch multiple clients button would open up a window with a entry field for the number of clients you want to launch with a maximum of 10 or so so players don't accidentally blow up their computers. |
Shang Tsungin
Shirai Ryu
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Posted - 2012.03.01 11:48:00 -
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When eve.exe is executed let it perform a call towards the server to check for an status and updates. When there is an update, a small new GUI will notify the player and give the player the choice to update yes or no ( Manually / by internet connectivity ). When choosing "Yes", the update disallows Exefile.exe from starting and eventually updates. When done you could let it start Eve.exe > check server status and version > start Exefile.
But please, by all means ... refrain from clutter. |
Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
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Posted - 2012.03.01 19:28:00 -
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Ah yes, a new launcher that takes only 40 minutes to tell me I can't log in to sisi for the mass test. Nice going.
You want me to test your code, fine. You want me to sit around for 40 minutes while your patcher patches the patches? Forget it. |
Stuhami
The Black Legionnares BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2012.03.02 22:39:00 -
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Hello,
It would be great to incorporate singularity in the settings or options so you can choose which server you want to play in just by launching the launcher :P.
The launcher could automatically make the copy and install Files in the eve-copy folder ( could be named singularity ) .
This way people who are interested in testing eve's new features may do so without much effort.
This Equals:
More players in mass tests
Less hassle
Less mistakes by players
Secondary effects:
More players on singularity means more feedback
This includes bug reports, changes, Balancing.
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