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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.03.31 17:20:00 -
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In case you dont know.
Euros and and Yanks pay taxes in different ways. Euros pay something called "VAT". Its a set % on almost all services and products.
Americans primarily pay taxes on income.
EVE gives Euros a discount when they pay for EVE that is equal to what they pay in VAT.
This isnt fair.
To be fair Americans should get an equal reduction in price. We pay taxes too just not the same way.
Does CCP think Euros are better than US players so they should pay less?
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.03.31 17:24:00 -
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Could be that the Euro is more highly valued than the American dollar too.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.31 17:25:00 -
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Huh?
The prices are naerly exactly the same for US and Euro players.
US players pay 15 dollars a month, and EU players pay 15 Euros. 15 Euros - VAT is just about 15 dollars. Thus, the prices are the same.
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Finix Jaeger
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Posted - 2006.03.31 17:26:00 -
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Does CCP think Euros are better than US players so they should pay less?
What the fudge are you smoking?
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Reatu Krentor
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Posted - 2006.03.31 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Finix Jaeger
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Does CCP think Euros are better than US players so they should pay less?
What the fudge are you smoking?
it must be something good... 
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.03.31 17:33:00 -
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yes, don't get me started on TAX. in the UK, we pay about 1/3 of our income on basic income tax and national insurance. We're taxed when we earn it. We pay 17.5% on top of pretty much everything (including stuff like cigs, petrol and alcohol which have their own special tax. So we pay tax ON our tax. We're taxed when we spend it. We pay tax on our savings, we pay tax when we inherit. We pay tax when we simply GIVE money away. So. Tax sucks. As for the whole
US pays more than Euros - you ever heard of a thing called exchange rates? at the moment, the US $ is quite strong, at about what, $1.8 to the GBPú. A couple of years ago the rate was like 1.25 to the GBP. So when it was like that, the US was paying WAAAY less than the euro, so. sush.
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Vladimir Ilych
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Posted - 2006.03.31 17:35:00 -
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News to me. The UK government puts VAT at 17.5% on almost everything. EVE will be no exception. Take my word for it.
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Sho Dimmar
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Posted - 2006.03.31 17:35:00 -
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'Euros' as you call us pay 15Ç a month. 15Ç is equal to $18.18 at todays exchange rate. US players pay $15 a month. Therefore, 'Euros' are paying more, so if anything at all, we should be getting a reduction in price.
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Sonos SAGD
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Posted - 2006.03.31 17:36:00 -
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maybe just an easy answer like it cost more to ship
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BBQ
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Posted - 2006.03.31 17:58:00 -
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At current I pay ú11 per month for eve (as of my last CC bill).
ú11 at current exchange rates is $19.10
The US costs for eve are currently set at $14.95 per month.
Somehow I think things are not quite as stacked against US players as you believe.
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Trac3rt
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:00:00 -
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FYI Euros (UK) get taxed at least 17.5% on everything they buy, AS WELL as having their income taxed.
15 Euros is also roughly equal to 15 Dollars isn't it?
There is a tax loophole where you don't have to pay VAT on imported goods valeud under ú18 (which is where certain online retailers that ship from outside of the UK charge 17.99 for a lot of stuff).
Finally, yes Euros are better than US players... what's your point?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Trac3rt
15 Euros is also roughly equal to 15 Dollars isn't it?
According to Google:
15 Euros = 18.11400 U.S. dollars
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Ediz Daxx
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:18:00 -
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Knowledge is your friend...
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Ulle
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
In case you dont know.
Euros and and Yanks pay taxes in different ways. Euros pay something called "VAT". Its a set % on almost all services and products.
Americans primarily pay taxes on income.
'Euros' pay VAT. And taxes on income. And additionals on fuel, tobacco and alchol. And often, on top of that, welfare expenses, from school to garbage disposal. If really CCP would have made a discount, it should be 'Ameros' to pay more. Are you really sure of what you're asking ? 
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Hikari Kisugi
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
In case you dont know.
This isnt fair.
To be fair Americans should get an equal reduction in price. We pay taxes too just not the same way.
Does CCP think Euros are better than US players so they should pay less?
I'm glad we got this opportunity to understand the incredible intellect you obviously possess. I think to be fair some scheme where players are offered a discount that relates to their IQ.
I'm sure you'll get a big discount.
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Lucas Garin
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Lucas Garin on 31/03/2006 18:28:48
Um... Who cares what the Euros pay.
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Chippie MS
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:29:00 -
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Come and fill your car up with petrol and then *****.
We pay 92p a litre thats nearly ú5 a gallon which is what about $9............ how much is it in the us? $2
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Lucas Garin
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Chippie MS
Come and fill your car up with petrol and then *****.
We pay 92p a litre thats nearly ú5 a gallon which is what about $9............ how much is it in the us? $2
It's $3 now for premium, which I have to use. At least in LA.
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Del ReyII
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:35:00 -
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Lets take the Eve^2 offer just as an example
In Europe we pay Ç49.95 (Thats $60.55) , in the US you would pay $49.95
In case you dont know.
Thats over 21% more. I am not sure where they get that figure from, in UK vat rate is 17.5% and in Ireland its 21%.
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Colonel O'Neill
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:39:00 -
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I could care less, I just wish my bank didn't charge me a 44 cent international transfer fee. 5/3 Bank can kiss my ass
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Wulfstan
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:41:00 -
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I think the OP thinks we only pay VAT in Europe and not income tax.
Mate, believe me, we pay income tax just like you, and our VAT is akin to your (State based?) Sales Tax.
Just like to petrol / gas in the USA. It's a lot cheaper, but driving from Washington to NYC I paid about 5 different tolls, so once again the aggregate was about the same.
Swings and roundabouts my dear fellows, swings and roundabouts.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:42:00 -
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Well, nothing quite like providing someone with no clue an education..
You already get it cheaper, and you pay less tax. Shush.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.03.31 18:54:00 -
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In the UK, we are taxed when we earn it, taxed when we save it and taxed when we spend it. Therefore the same little (and I mean Little in a literal sense) amount of money we earn can be taxed up to 3 times. Petrol, cigarettes and alcohol are taxed by nearly 65%, making them all horrendously expensive.
If you want to swap houses and move to England so you pay less to play Eve, I'll swap with you and move to the USA. But I guess I'm just a sucker to want to suffer the extra cost of playing Eve. 
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Larshus Magrus
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Posted - 2006.03.31 19:09:00 -
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I'm in the unique position that I have experienced Taxes in Euroland (Switzerland) and well as America.
Don't kid yourselves. no matter how you sliCe and dice it, the taxes are nearly the same. Both pay taxes on income, both pay taxes and sales either via VAT or fed/state/county/vity sales and use tax. Both get taxes on tax. Both have Healthcare and wellfare and unemployments and on and on taxes.
Which tax is higher overall? Its debateable based on.. and here is the kicker, spending and earning patterns. If you are taxed in total 22% and median income is 25k $ per year or you are taxed 44$ and you average income is 45k Euroes a year who pays more? ITs a wash.
In switzerland taxes were high. Petro was high. Rent was high. Food was high. But Swiss make ALOT more than americans on average with ALOT more benefits. IT all averages out.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.31 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 31/03/2006 19:16:51
Bigger houses, USA has. Only tiny houses in UK, there are. 
Adapt or cry.
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Kryss Darkdust
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Posted - 2006.03.31 19:24:00 -
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Man don't even get me going on taxes, in Sweden we pay 45% income tax before we get taxed by the county. Not to mention there is a tax on everything including simply owning a TV in the house. Americans always complain about taxes, but they don't pay S^&%$% compared to Europe.
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2006.03.31 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Chippie MS
Come and fill your car up with petrol and then *****.
We pay 92p a litre thats nearly ú5 a gallon which is what about $9............ how much is it in the us? $2
You know there was a reason in 1776 that the colonies revolted.
Americans pay $0.35 tax per gallon, wich as of today we Pay $2.15 per gallon of gas. Some places $3.00+. Now subtract your gas/petro tax from what you pay. Now what do you pay? Just asking.
We also pay health insurance, some with company help some with out.
We also pay income tax at 20-33% depending on your dependents. We also pay State tax, sales tax, and property tax.
So I really dont care if Euros pay more for petrol/or how much they pay for eve.....
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2006.03.31 19:28:00 -
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Downtime trading we have, must make Euro ammends, must we? 
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.31 19:30:00 -
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Pay lower prices, how to.
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2006.03.31 19:34:00 -
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And you know what? If you dont like the taxes you pay...try $750.00 to go to the emergency room at the hospital....$7.00 for the gauze to hold the bleeding in check...$254 for five stitches...and a whooping $978.00 Doctor bill.
Each country pays taxes for nice things like not haveing to pay for the above.
In 1776 the americans got tired of taxes being levied against them and done somthing about it.
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