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Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.13 17:55:00 - [1] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 30/09/2003 03:42:40 (edited to correct NAP list) (edited to add to Member list) (edited to add NVA principles link) (edited to add Cause for war link) For those involved in the Venal Civil war, or for those merely visiting the region, the NVA council provides the following information. New Venal Alliance: Allied Members List [BLADE] Bladerunners [C.C] Cult of Cthulhu [C-C] Cryogenic Consultancy [CDI] Cyberdyne Industries [CUMT] Curtiss Militech [DI] Draconic Industries [FGH] Fighters of Heineken [GLC] Galactico [GODS] Generals of Destruction Syndicate [GOF] Grumpy old Farts [INF] Infinicorp [JBX] JBX Corp [JERIC] Jericho Fraction [LUMMA] General Snus [KIA] KIA Corp [MDI] Manifest Destiny Inc. [NOVA] Terra Nova Corp [OCC] Occassus Republica [PAIN] The Pain Syndicate [PID] Pardon Inc. [RAVEN] Ravens of Valhalla [RIVER] River Deep [RKK] Reikoku [RONA] Rona Corporation [SJT] Sirjay Technologies [S.W] Shadow Warriors [ZONE] Zone of Control NAP (Non Aggression Pact (No restriction in Venal or Pureblind For combined military ops) [BBBB] Big Bang Burger Bar [BCKW] Backwater [BSC] British Space Corp. [BURN] Keepers of the Blue Flame [CNX/CNXI] Cornexant [CPDS] Cop Iae Dius [CYB] Cyberdine Systems [DARKM] Darkmoons [DCINC] Dreamcatchers Inc. [E X O] E x o d u s [EVO] Evolution [FSM] Free Space Mercenaries [HDY] Hadean Drive Yards [HARRR] Going Limp Inc [NAGIN] Naginata [OI] Oberon Incorporated [ODYS] Odyssey Corporation [OE] Omega Enterprises [NCAA] NCAA INC. [PLA] Playboy Enterprises [SRDB] Sword Brigade [SWC] Solar Wind [TCHL] Techell Corp [XAN] Xanadu Enemy (Corps) Destroy on Sight No Mercy [TTI] Taggart Transdimension. (And SubCorps) [M3G4] M3G4 corp. [PLD] Paladins of the red skull [SEN] Scenites [999] Andras Pandemonium [10KAD] Crusaders 10000AD [AW1] Angels of Wrath [SPVD] Space Invaders [JEDI] Joint Espionage and Defence Industries [BM-C] Biomass Cartel [FRIG] Mercenary Frigates Enemy (Individuals) Destroy on Sight No Mercy [????] Kari Stefansson [????] Yrma [????] Omniwar Unknown ships in Venal: Currently policy is assumption of friendly intentions. Unknowns are encouraged to contact NVA authorities and declare their purpose. Pureblind Policy: NVA considers Pure Blind a free territory under NVA protection. Though we make no formal territorial claim on the region, neither will be recognise any other territorial claim there. We are entirely happy to conduct joint anti-pirate manouvers in PB with native corps; but we will not allow the establishment of any controlled or exclusion zones in Pure Blind. NB: While the shooting war with Taggart Transpiratical continues, independents and neutrals are not welcome in 6NJ8-V or Y-4CFK systems and will be asked to leave. This is because Taggart uses a lot of disguised neutrals to run blockades and provide targeting information; the NVA expects a degree of common sense from visitors to the warzone. Thank you for listening. Any enquiries or issues please contact me or another council member in-game. Link to the New Venal Alliance declaration of principles TTI and Ragnar ... the cause of war Offices in Venal Love and peace (and death to Ayn Rand) JF Public Forum
Agent Shield	Posted - 2003.09.13 22:54:00 - [2] Jade, I realize you said 'in-game', but for those of us who may not be in the loop; some more informationis requested. If I was to fly up into the area that is 'controlled' by the NVA, am I left alone under friendly visitor status? May I come up to the area and hunts some NPCs, mine some better minerals, hang out with the residents, etc...; or is there some formal document (passport/papers) that are necessary for travel through a NVA controlled area? We actually are looking at a new place to go visit, usually hang around for about a week or so, then move on to other areas. Peaceful intentions, we have our own personal KOS list that does not include any of the corp/individuals on your list; so that is all fine. I guess, do I (or the corp), need an invitation? Another question, I was thinking of purchasing some bulk minerals from someone who was in 6NJ??, but I would not want to get into any trouble in doing so, thus will stay out as asked. Are the minerals being sold out of there members of your alliance who therefor need someone to take them out, or your particular enemy and transporting (helping your enemy) is a very bad thing. Obviously if they are part of the NVA and are asking for someone to purchase, then I might get permission to come in to pick up goods; otherwise, I do not wish to participate for safety reasons. Agent Shield
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.14 00:07:00 - [3] Agent Shield, in response to your general and specific queries: In principle yes, you should be ôleft aloneö and allowed the travel in the Venal and Pureblind territory. NVA reserves the right to question you however, and may ask after your specific affiliations and intentions, potentially logging your presence and details as part of a free ôpassö system to track visitors and travellers to the region. Be advised to respond to such queries with politeness and honest demeanour and there should be no problems. NVA has stated a declaration in principle supporting the ôfree spaceö open access concept to lone travellers and explorers. But always monsieur, be sensible, be forthright, and be accessible; and remember that answering hails, paying attention to local chat, and being aware of military presence in system is the key to avoiding costly mistakes. No, you donÆt need an invitation, but access is no substitute for respect, be respectful and respect our customs and you should be fine. If you are intending to stay in region for an extended period there may be grounds for applying for formal NAP; but such matters are for personal discussion. Re 6NJ, that is a problematic system as explained in the main post. You have the right of it though; exceptions can be negotiated by direct communications with the NVA. Always in relation to the above, the NVA must offer disclaimer that the region is not ôunder controlö and a civil war is being fought. Taggart Transpiratical is a nefarious fallen megacorporation in league with murderous pirates and psychopaths; bad things can happen in Venal and Pureblind to the unwary. This is a bitter dispute, and tensions are high. Transit must be considered hazardous. Still, if that doesnÆt put you off monsieur you are evidently a brave man and courage is the meat and drink of the NVA! Come and see the sights and if you like it, perhaps you will like so many other men and women of valour consider pledging heart and blade to the service of freedom and liberty in this once-benighted region. Love and peace. JF Public Forum
Stavros	Posted - 2003.09.14 01:18:00 - [4] noone cares, if it wasnt for the fact that i can't travel through empire space due to bugs, I would break your alliance for the arrogance you show on a daily basis. -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.14 01:30:00 - [5] I hear Taggart Transpiratical are paying well Stavros m'dear. You might want to get in touch with Ragnar? Love and peace JF Public Forum
Stavros	Posted - 2003.09.14 06:44:00 - [6] we dont work for anyone... do not mistake my animosity for TTI for love for you. you sure talk alot for someone whos corp's pvp credentials run as long as my fingernail. -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2003.09.14 10:34:00 - [7] It's interesting to see Solar Wind amongst the second list considering they're a member of Stain Alliance. Does that indicate SA and NVA are bosom buddies? HeeHee, he said b-o-s-o-m. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Sambora	Posted - 2003.09.14 11:22:00 - [8] Mr Stavros, the informatin provided by Ms Constantine is for those who work around or wish to visit Venal and PB, and for those of us involved in the conflict. I belive I speek for most people when I say that no one give a rats ******* what your opinion on the matter is. So I would ask you to kindly keep it to your self and go shoot some newbs or what ever it is you do other that harass people with on these forums. (this is my opinion and not the official opinion of Jerichno or the NVA)
dalman	Posted - 2003.09.14 11:28:00 - [9] Quote: It's interesting to see Solar Wind amongst the second list considering they're a member of Stain Alliance. Does that indicate SA and NVA are bosom buddies? HeeHee, he said b-o-s-o-m. Well, not really. Since SA's policy is to be neutral to things outside Stain. So as long as there are no unprovoked attacks on SA ship, SA corps kinda act on thier own. So most of SA decided to stay out of the conflict in Venal, but Solar Wind went there to fight on NVA's side. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2003.09.14 11:46:00 - [10] Nice words Jade, but the simple fact is while your pilots read your dribble on these forums half the people on your KOS list are in 6N / 4FK or in Venal ..... We can all "waffle" on about alliances, passes and NAP lists but still you fail to install or be anything in regards to the Venal region ... You "smell" like a dog, you "yap" like a dog, down "UBU" down .... Mongo speaks !!
Indigo Seqi	Posted - 2003.09.14 12:53:00 - [11] Edited by: Indigo Seqi on 14/09/2003 12:54:19 ----- 1) Wasn't the NVA supposed to be some kind of legitimate alliance now? If so, what are VG, BURN, C-C and RAVEN( and possibly PAIN,) doing in the allies list? 2) Is it me, or am I seeing a number of corps on the allies list that are also part of other alliances? Have they left their previous ones or is this a sign of special cooperation between alliances? Also regarding hostiles to NVA present in Y4, the only way to keep people out of your region is by making them fear you, anything else is useless and wasted effort. The game currently does not support any form of area claiming.
Soul King	Posted - 2003.09.14 14:33:00 - [12] Why question such motives? Whats the point? Honesty is not the basis of her answers, she'll simply go on to lie and probably spout some rubbish about Proto not being a pirate anymore. If she doesn't and admits to the activities of these corporations then she is, in essence contradicting herself. Although that wouldn't be a first now would it Jade? -Necro P.S. Oh and before you have a go at my affiliates, the difference between myself and you jade is i admit to the activities of my allies. Honesty - Honesty Jade.
Tehel Necrona	Posted - 2003.09.14 14:35:00 - [13] Sorry, i posted on an alt :S -Necro
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.14 16:00:00 - [14] Monsieur Stavros IÆm a public relations consultant, I fight my wars by building alliances. But that said, I have actually fought a battleship engagement to the death, I suppose that puts me in a fairly small subcategory of eve-ites. Dearest Joshua Solar Wind are what we call in the trade, ideological mercenaries. They are honourable and skilled combatants and they hate Taggart Transpiratical as much as we do. Mr Pecker I know half the people on the KOS list are in 6N/J4. Funny that mÆdear, maybe itÆs because we are fighting a war. Indigo I hardly think itÆs appropriate for you to question the legitimacy of the NVA; especially since the Taggart Transpiratical ôNorthern Allianceö is compromised of the most brutal murdering maniacs in the Eve star cluster To answer your questions though; there are reformed and reforming piratical elements to a minority of NVA corporations. The non-piratical statement of principles expressly committed the NVA to ôfree spaceö and lawful endeavour, and in the fullness of time and open democratic voting we will see these principles ratified to binding constitution. If particular NVA corps disagree with overall policy they will have the option of leaving NVA space and finding alternative employment. Yes, in some cases the presence of corporations pledged to multiple alliances is indeed a sign of special cooperation between those alliances. You must try to realise the degree to which Taggart Transpiratial is loathed mÆdear Indigo. You space invaders were merely dashing highway robbers and lyrical rogues once. But by making common cause with Ragnar you have descended into the lowest pits of corruption and face a share of broad derision thence and after. Soul King/Tehel Necrosis I donÆt think you even understand the word ôhonestyö. No seriously mÆdear, try and understand, ôhonestyö means telling the truth. IÆve a question for you though. Are the reports that we are now getting of RagnarÆs flight from Venal for a ôvacationö true? (Comms chatter from your allies suggests that CEO Ragnar has quit the field after making a last Northern Alliance broadcast that encouraged all troops to fight and die and spend their last breath in the fruitless oppression of Venal.) I find this very amusing. For having sacrificed the VA for TTI profits, now Ragnar seems to want to sacrifice the Northern Piratical Alliance for the same cause. Does bring into question the wit of your allies though. One can almost forgive the Scenites and M3G4 because they haven't been betrayed by TTI before (to my knowledge). But to the Palladins, the SI, and those others, honestly, its only been a few weeks since your sold them out the last time! So Tehel, are you hiding in stations to cover RagnarÆs yellow streak now? Love and peace JF Public Forum
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.09.14 16:19:00 - [15] Is there any alliance which Bladerunners are not a part of? Convert Stations
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2003.09.14 16:23:00 - [16] Edited by: Mongo Peck on 14/09/2003 16:25:12 Kind of dumb then "inviting the innocent" with your paid up "passes" into the middle of a war zone ... Quote: I know half the people on the KOS list are in 6N/J4. Funny that mÆdear, maybe itÆs because we are fighting a war. Again, your words are just words and your alliance is offering "hollow truths" Woof Woof ..... Mongo speaks !!
Tehel Necrona	Posted - 2003.09.14 17:01:00 - [17] Edited by: Tehel Necrona on 14/09/2003 17:05:43 Ragnar has not jumped ship. Nor is he abusing the trust of allies to shield us. I think the only one insulting them is you by attemping to play off some daft "TTI are not trustworthy guys" here. Please Evolution may of got it to work with you, but not everyone is so gullable. Your starting to remind me of Kylie Manouge now, and no its not how attractive your behind looks in hot pants, as unfortunatley i've as of yet to bare witness of such a sight, no more so of the song "I'm Spinning around". "I'm spinning around, move out of my way, lalalal (humms in the manner you tend to do when you forget the words of the song) doododdede". -Necro
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.14 17:16:00 - [18] The strange thing is Tehel, I'm on the way to to a fight and I keep passing Taggart ships running the other way. Seems pretty conclusive that your banner device is yellow for more than asthetic reasons m'dear. And (just to be clear) are you denying Ragnars "You guys fight them on the beaches (while I sunbathe on some completely different ones) speech then"? JF Public Forum
Stavros	Posted - 2003.09.14 17:28:00 - [19] i've fought hundreds of bship fights to the death, always of the other guy/s I mean hats off to fountain they try to protect their region as best they can, but its not like we have a base inside there.. Not like many of your enemy corps do in venal, althoug I suppose you ARE a pr person so bending the truth is second nature to you.. did you used to work for the iraqui government by any chance? ¼_¼ 'there are no enemies in venal' 'the enemies are committing suicide at our stargates' sound familiar? -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2003.09.14 17:29:00 - [20] Another dumb statement by the Jericho "Mouth Peace" Quote: The strange thing is Tehel, I'm on the way to to a fight and I keep passing Taggart ships running the other way. Seems pretty conclusive that your banner device is yellow for more than asthetic reasons m'dear Jade, Jade, Jade ..... please get your lies and bull-she-it consistant :P Quote: I know half the people on the KOS list are in 6N/J4. Funny that mÆdear, maybe itÆs because we are fighting a war Waiting "with sweaty palms" for your 3 page ... yap yap ..... Does she role over, when you tickle her tum !!! Mongo speaks !!
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.14 17:41:00 - [21] Somehow I get the impression that I'm getting to you Mongo ;) The last Taggart ship I saw fleeing in the other direction was Alumnia in a Moa. Ten minutes ago. And of course yesterday we saw the exodus of an eight indy Taggart fleet wholsale abandoning their allies and packing up shop lock stock. Only people fighting the Taggart war are Taggart dupes m'dear. Love and peace. JF Public Forum
Tehel Necrona	Posted - 2003.09.14 17:49:00 - [22] I am not at liberty to discuss why, nor do i think its anyones buisness, but Ragnar plans to leave eve later on in the year, way after this conflict is resolved. The reason is quite obviously based on real life issues and nothing to do with the game itself, so please don't pin that on us Jade. If Ragnar wishes to take this up then so be it, but to be honest, his parting in the distant future is not an issue, for this conflict at least. -Necro
Tehel Necrona	Posted - 2003.09.14 17:51:00 - [23] Where was this Jade? Or is the fact that your information is second or third hand begining to show again. The fleet you escorted was nothing to do with TTI, Andras corp had 4 members who quit Andreas after being blockaded in a station for only 2 hours. They choose the easy way out, fair play to them its not like you lot didn't. -Necro
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.14 18:02:00 - [24] Are you now the "Taggart Transpiratical" Information Minister now Tehel? "Our ships are not leaving, they are flying backwards in parade ground order to celebrate the birthday of our glorious leader!" Its quite hilarious JF Public Forum
Tehel Necrona	Posted - 2003.09.14 18:09:00 - [25] At least make your attacks origional Jade. I find it also ammusing that your quick to assume that we have traffic TOO empire space FROM venal a display of our withdrawl. Now your either inciting spin or your absaloutley clueless. Is it difficult for you to appreciate that the fact we are operating in venal, we may, on occastion send people down to empire space for say... oh i dunno skill packs, blueprints and a fresh supply of Minmatar "escorts" to supply Ragnars love frigate? Really Jade, perhaps take some advice from my signiture. -Necro
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2003.09.14 18:28:00 - [26] Quote: Dearest Joshua Solar Wind are what we call in the trade, ideological mercenaries. They are honourable and skilled combatants and they hate Taggart Transpiratical as much as we do. Oh, I hate TTI too. Corp. friend happened to mention today that "Roark" sounds like the noise a chicken makes. Which is apt. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.14 19:02:00 - [27] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/09/2003 19:12:51 Stop press ... before the Taggart Information Minister releases the gloat ... I have just awoken from resleeving. The M3G4 corp pilot "Number One" is the proud owner of a previous incarnation's corpse. I have congratulated the man on the kill and advised him to demand the full 100 million bounty offered by Ragnar some days ago. My body was slain in battle against a sizable M3G4 corp fleet in Venal. I personally saw absolutely no TTI involvement in the large fleet action I was witness too. Pretty clear that Taggart ships were running south to allow their allies to carry the fighting. A hard thing to wake from dead to a new body, yet the spirit is immortal, and even as the fluids of the resleeving process are washed and dried away by the clinic attendents, my thoughts return to the war, and the fight ahead. Congratulations again Number One, you are 100million isk richer. Love and peace JF Public Forum
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2003.09.14 19:05:00 - [28] You're dying too often, Jade LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Tehel Necrona	Posted - 2003.09.14 19:13:00 - [29] Not even in death can you prevent spinning. Fantastic, absaloutley fantastic! :) -Necro
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.09.14 19:19:00 - [30] I'm afraid its the price to be paid for having taken a stand against Taggart Transpiratical and the alliance of evil men prepared to follow the shadow of Ragnar's tyranny. My honesty was poison to the Taggart machine. And like an idiot child swotting away a well-intentioned gesture, Ragnar named me victim of "fatwah" and multiple murder. I knew the risks when I stood up to that lunatic and his goons. This war is not over yet. Hope remains JF Public Forum

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