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Sointu Luonnotar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:18:00 -
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Please make a general memorial for those no longer with us. I really hate the idea of putting some people on the pedestal over others. Not all of us might have people that would ask us to be immortalized. So it would be grea if the memorial part would be either completely neutral general "R.I.P", but since that is probably not happening... |

Frank Millar
429
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:50:00 -
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Sointu Luonnotar wrote:Please make a general memorial for those no longer with us. I really hate the idea of putting some people on the pedestal over others. Not all of us might have people that would ask us to be immortalized. So it would be grea if the memorial part would be either completely neutral general "R.I.P", but since that is probably not happening... This is happening, if I read it correctly.
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LOL at all the sad, entitled whiney "characters" in this thread. Biomass yourselfs already. And all of your alts (or your mains, whatever comes first). 
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Awesome gesture, CCP. o7 |

Wackal Jackal
Sparkle Bros Inc
0
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Posted - 2014.02.06 14:21:00 -
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Findell Ronuken wrote:what a giant waste of money typical ccp wasting money on things not related to eve in any way even when the game is broken
They're going to get tons of subs from people who just want to get their name on the monument, so... |

knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
323
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Posted - 2014.02.06 14:29:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I've never ever heard of a Corporation ever doing something like this for their customers, ever. Much less a gaming company. .
Richard Garriot took my name to space. Beat that. Who's that ???? So: not impressed.
You're a young'un aren't you. Next you'll be asking who John Carmack is.
He's the guy who made Ultima etc. As a player promo thing when he did Tabula Rasa he took all the players names into space. Tabula Rasa was shite but he still did that which was pretty cool. |

Hoshi Sorano
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.02.06 14:31:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Hoshi Sorano wrote:Some of the younger and/or more impressionable players may take this as some sort of signal that they have somehow done something worthwhile with their lives. You and people like you* formed a community (willing or unwillingly) and made sure that that community lasted through the last decade. And I bet you so long as nothing unexpected happens (natural desasters etc.) it'll even last another 10 years. What's not worthwhile about that?
It's still just a video game, a diversion, a form of entertainment, a way to waste time. As human beings, we need the occasional diversion to rest from our labors and refresh our minds, but that doesn't make participating in such a diversion any sort of significant accomplishment.
Accomplishments are what you do with the other hours in a day that you're not wasting shooting space pixels.
Seriously, the importance some people place on video games is sickening.
The comment about my coworkers was rude and uncalled for by the way; the point is that I have not seen a favorable reaction to this monument outside of EVE players, and aside from some media hype, I doubt that we will.
Malcanis wrote: Some people get more out of EVE than playing just another video game.
Some people need to get a life.
Go outside once in a while, look at the real stars, talk to someone face to face, accomplish something real, and don't expect to be recognized for something you did in a world that doesn't even exist.
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I suggest moving somewhere that has a lot of sunshine. You'll feel a whole lot better about things.
Funny, I live somewhere known for its sunshine. Unlike some here, I actually go out and see it every now and then. In general, I do feel pretty good about things, I just don't take false pride in something that has no real meaning. If your personal self-worth is so tied up in your participation of a virtual world that people use for entertainment, I suggest professional help.
Do something truly worthwhile with your life and you'll "feel a whole lot better about things." Keep making playing a video game your crowning achievement, and you'll have self esteem problems the rest of your life. |

Hoshi Sorano
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.02.06 14:37:00 -
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Wackal Jackal wrote:Findell Ronuken wrote:what a giant waste of money typical ccp wasting money on things not related to eve in any way even when the game is broken They're going to get tons of subs from people who just want to get their name on the monument, so...
Who will promptly unsub once their names are included and the same factors that caused them to quit in the first place remain, so...
Cash grab gimmicks are rarely effective for actually building the community. The game needs more stable subscriptions, not a one month surge that will drop off just as quickly. |

Taranogas 3rd
State War Academy Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2014.02.06 14:52:00 -
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Hoshi Sorano wrote: It's still just a video game, a diversion, a form of entertainment, a way to waste time. As human beings, we need the occasional diversion to rest from our labors and refresh our minds, but that doesn't make participating in such a diversion any sort of significant accomplishment.
I find it funny that you're making this a bigger deal than it is, people are cool with it just accept it, no one is thinking "aha these nerds have no life they don't see sunshine and accomplished nothing that they need to revert to doing this to have meaning in their pathetic little lives"
this is exactly how your argument sounds, most people are cool with it and appreciate the gesture it's a nice fun cool thing, but then comes your bunch over analyzing like the morons they are.
Quote: I just don't take false pride in something that has no real meaning. If your personal self-worth is so tied up in your participation in a virtual world that people use for entertainment, I suggest professional help.
Do something truly worthwhile with your life and you'll "feel a whole lot better about things." Keep making playing a video game your crowning achievement, and you'll have self esteem problems the rest of your life.
who here EVER said that? just because we appreciated this kind of thing that means all that dribble you said? who even hinted at tying their self worth over a game? and it's like the other people you play with, or this virtual community that you're apart of doesn't exist what do you do? consider everyone you interact with an NPC? what a sad little man.. |

Hoshi Sorano
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:01:00 -
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Taranogas 3rd wrote:who even hinted at tying their self worth over a game?
Everyone in this thread who thinks this "monument" marks something worth immortalizing in stone and steel.
Everyone here who feels the need to vehemently defend such a monument. |

Taranogas 3rd
State War Academy Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:07:00 -
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Hoshi Sorano wrote:Taranogas 3rd wrote:who even hinted at tying their self worth over a game? Everyone in this thread who thinks this "monument" marks something worth immortalizing in stone and steel. Everyone here who feels the need to vehemently defend such a monument.
and you feel the need to point this out to everyone exactly why you feel the need to bash on something which probably won't affect you in any such way if you are so disgusted and opposed to this then just unsub till after march 1st, when they put every "no-lifes" name on it then you can be proud that you were not a part of it and not marked as "the people who tie their self worth over a game". |

Hoshi Sorano
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:54:00 -
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Taranogas 3rd wrote:Hoshi Sorano wrote:Taranogas 3rd wrote:who even hinted at tying their self worth over a game? Everyone in this thread who thinks this "monument" marks something worth immortalizing in stone and steel. Everyone here who feels the need to vehemently defend such a monument. and you feel the need to point this out to everyone exactly why
Because you asked; if you don't like the answer, maybe it's a bit too close to the truth for you?
Also because while I don't consider playing the game to be some grandiose achievement worth immortalizing, I do find it fun to play. As such, I am interested in the health and future of the game as a game, and I feel that actions like this will present the wrong image of our community, and in the long run, drive away more potential players than it attracts. Those it does attract will be people who join purely for egocentric reasons, and who will have little interest in continuing in the game.
Subscription based games live or die by the growth and stability of their subscriptions. I would love to see EVE continue for another decade, but continued bonehead moves by CCP seem to threaten that possibility. Any company that prioritizes stroking their own ego over improving their product has a limited shelf life. |
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Jelly Fat
Greedy Bastards
2
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:58:00 -
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If a community had to reach a consensus before going forth in a project, nothing would get done, ever.
So, hat's off to those who takes initiatives! I am a professional Fedo Breeder.
Buying high pedigree Fedos since 2013 |

raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
401
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Posted - 2014.02.06 16:58:00 -
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Friends, please accept this song as token of my appreciation for this holy EVE monument
Johnny Cash - Ain't No Grave Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM. |

Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate Caldari State
318
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Posted - 2014.02.06 17:46:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Kirren D'marr wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Same tired old arguments used against Maya Lins' minimalist design for the Vietnam Memorial in Washingto DC. "Nobody will go. It's ugly. A black slab has nothing to do with Vietnam". Blah blah blah. Again, this is a computer game! Comparing a monument to a recreational pastime in any way, shape, or form to a monument honoring soldiers who gave their lives defending the freedoms of others is absolutely disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. The point, which you obviously missed in your overzealous hasty hatred of this thing, was the unbelievable whining about the Vienam Memorials purpose and design back in the 80s. This has nothing to do with anything relating to a comparison between the military and a video game. That is a fabrication of your own imagination and nothing else. Sorry, but the world has not provided me with another video game player monument to compare it too. I'm pretty much restricted in example to use only military based monuments, and unknown monuments to unknown bridge builders and such. Get a freakin grip.
If I misunderstood your intent, I apologize. From my perspective, you were claiming that, regardless of the design of the structure, the monument would be popular in the same way that the Vietnam Memorial is popular.
The Vietnam Memorial is popular not because of its design, but because of the significance of the names etched into its surface. Claiming that this monument would be popular in the same way attaches the same sort of significance and importance to the fake names which will be inscribed on it. It implies that the names on the EVE monument are somehow equal to (or even remotely similar to) the names of those lost in Vietnam.
It is that idea which I find disgusting, and that is the meaning which I drew from your parallel. If that's not what was intended, then I retract my earlier comment. Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |

Sieges
51
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Posted - 2014.02.06 17:55:00 -
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They should take some super high resolution pictures of the monument so that we can zoom in and see the character names. Someday it would be awesome to visit Iceland, but for me, for now, it is not in the cards. But I would still like to see the names  |

Rastafarian God
25
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Posted - 2014.02.06 19:04:00 -
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1. Pretty cool and neat that you are doing this.
2. Don't ever use a countdown like that again unless its about something truly awesome game side.
3. I would much rather my real name be on that then my characters name. That would actually mean something.
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Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate Caldari State
319
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:17:00 -
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With regards to the cost, I've seen wholly unrealistic estimates in this thread at both extremes. I don't think there is any way that the price tag is in the millions of US dollars; maybe if it was a government project burdened by bureaucracy and waste, but not for one funded by a commercial entity. Likewise, estimates which only tally up a list of building materials are equally invalid, as they ignore several other important factors, such as the cost of the land, permits, and (what is usually the largest expense for something like this) the talent of the artist.
Just going off of what I've seen of similar sculptures, I would not be surprised if commissioning and building a work like this were to run anywhere between $200,000-$500,000. There's a lot of variation dependent largely upon the prominence of the artist (I'm not familiar enough with the Icelandic art scene to understand how locally renowned this guy may or may not be), but it should be a fairly accurate ballpark at least.
Now, it's not tens of millions in wasteful spending, but neither is it a paltry sum to be shelled out without a second thought. It's definitely substantial enough to make it a questionable investment for a company which has been laying off employees in recent history. Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |

Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
821
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:49:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Well, is your RL name Mike Azariah? Because this is what be etched on this monument and it has nothing to do with you being gone or not. Are you really proud to have your space name on a stone somewhere? Seriously?
Like your son will be there at some day with his children and they will go to the monument and your son will show your character's name to them and say:
"Look, this was your grandpa"
and your grandson will say:
"No it wasn't, grandpa's name was {insert your RL name here}".
And your son will explain to them that you were using name of Mike Azariah and you did something awesome under that name and that is why you ended up on monument.
And you grandson will ask:
"What did grandpa do?"
and you son will respond with pride in his voice and tears in his eyes:
"HE WAS PLAYING A VIDEO GAME".
/me laughs
Good point. Makes me very glad I did not use a simple name like (xXinsert drug or pop culture reference hereXx)
Instead, Mike IS my real first name and Azariah is the name of one of my grandfathers. I take pride in this name and in the things I have done in this game. So yes, if my as yet unborn grandkids went to iceland I hope they would find my name . . . and I hope that Eve is still around so they know what game it was.
Whether you call me by my Birth names or the ones I chose for myself. It is still a memory of me. A footprint in the sands of time that might be a bit above the high water mark.
I still like it and still think it is cool.
m
Mike Azariah-á CSM8 |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
13752
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Posted - 2014.02.06 21:59:00 -
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Kirren D'marr wrote:With regards to the cost, I've seen wholly unrealistic estimates in this thread at both extremes. I don't think there is any way that the price tag is in the millions of US dollars; maybe if it was a government project burdened by bureaucracy and waste, but not for one funded by a commercial entity. Likewise, estimates which only tally up a list of building materials are equally invalid, as they ignore several other important factors, such as the cost of the land, permits, and (what is usually the largest expense for something like this) the talent of the artist.
Just going off of what I've seen of similar sculptures, I would not be surprised if commissioning and building a work like this were to run anywhere between $200,000-$500,000. There's a lot of variation dependent largely upon the prominence of the artist (I'm not familiar enough with the Icelandic art scene to understand how locally renowned this guy may or may not be), but it should be a fairly accurate ballpark at least.
Now, it's not tens of millions in wasteful spending, but neither is it a paltry sum to be shelled out without a second thought. It's definitely substantial enough to make it a questionable investment for a company which has been laying off employees in recent history.
You're out by ~an order of magnitude.
CCP have every reason to expect significant revenue returns from this project. It's a marketing project at heart. A lovely gesture, a compliment to the community, but fundamentally, CCP expect to gain from doing this. As one would expect a commercial company to do.
1 Kings 12:11
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Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
484
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:03:00 -
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oO
I think thats pretty cool and eff the haters. Don't want your name on a stone somewhere? Well, I hope your relatives never put a gravestone up over your rotting corpse. no.. really.. i hope so.
thumbs and nips up CCP |

KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
536
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:07:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Siobhan MacLeary wrote:I am so completely and utterly underwhelmed, CCP. Yeah, I guess a monument is cool, but here I was thinking the timer would be counting down to some important change to EVE Online, rather than an announcement about a planned monument.
How does this thing even represent EVE? There's no imagery in the design that resembles anything in EVE, just a blank obelisk flanked by a face-like object. The only thing telling us that this monument represents EVE is that sculptor saying it does. It could just as well represent the struggle of the common man to understand the mindless rapacity of the business world, or something else appropriately art-wonky.
I'm disappointed, CCP, because you made such a big deal over this and it's something that doesn't actually affect a lot of us. Same tired old arguments used against Maya Lins' minimalist design for the Vietnam Memorial in Washingto DC. "Nobody will go. It's ugly. A black slab has nothing to do with Vietnam". Blah blah blah. It's so popular they can't hardly handle the crowds. Time will tell all. It always does.
When it's one of the few places to go to honor your lost loved one there's not much of a choice but to show up there. 50K+ dead makes for a lot of traveling relatives. CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
536
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:11:00 -
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Riddick Nova wrote:So how does CCP know who your main char is?
You haven't been watching the news have you? NSA of course. 
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Billy Hix
Team JK
102
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:23:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: You're out by ~an order of magnitude.
CCP have every reason to expect significant revenue returns from this project. It's a marketing project at heart. A lovely gesture, a compliment to the community, but fundamentally, CCP expect to gain from doing this. As one would expect a commercial company to do.
For the life of me, I can't see how this is much of a marketing tool.
Yes a few people in Iceland will see it. Is that what you mean, its like a billboard?
Yes a few news sources have picked up on it. Is the few stories that have popped up on gaming sites what you mean?
Are they hoping that next time they mess up people will go and shoot it?
I just don't see it at all.
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
536
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:29:00 -
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Mia Restolo wrote:I think its cool.
Doesn't Eve have 500k active subscribers? That's a lot of names to put on there!
The technology exists to put all the names on a piece of silicon that you could hold in you hand. Did they fail to mention to bring a microscope with you?
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Silent Rambo
State Protectorate Caldari State
119
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:33:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: CCP have every reason to expect significant revenue returns from this project. It's a marketing project at heart. A lovely gesture, a compliment to the community, but fundamentally, CCP expect to gain from doing this. As one would expect a commercial company to do.
I mean putting money into the product your selling seems like a much healthier and long term marketing strategy. It's called "Make your product a better product". This monument seems like a pretty bold marketing strategy Malcanis, lets see if it pays of for them.
I'm very much for EvE growth, I'm very dubious of how successful this will be in obtaining more real revenue for CCP. Player retention, which is the biggest hurdle EvE has, will still be low since this really doesn't reward staying with the game after the snapshot. Sure you can get a couple new faces in, but if they don't stick around, your back to square one. It will only be a gain if the amount of money they make in the small window of the snapshot makes up the cost, since you cant rely on a statue in Iceland bringing a lot of people to the game once the initial hype train has come to a halt.
You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies? |

KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
536
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:34:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:My main character C40ks0nD1ck would like to know if he can use a Plex for a name change?
Maybe the name pulling scripts that disallow the non-PC "main" will look at the other toons on the account for acceptance?
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
536
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:40:00 -
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SIrera Artrald wrote:Where the hel are people getting these figures from last I check cement and granite and steel and aluminum did not cost millions of dollars! Try thousands. . .
Slapping "art" on a project results in 10x a reasonable cost.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
536
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:52:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Gogela wrote:Actually, now I have something to do IRL. I have to go to iceland, find my name, and PAINT FRICKIN' FLAMES AROUND IT!
Yar.
It's neat. The monument. It's a neat monument. Player built stargates would be more neat... but this is cool. Yeah, how long before certain names are vandalized on the thing. You KNOW it is going to happen.
Just like the stealing the flag game, it will be an annual FanFest contest to see who can "pod" the most names of the more well known NullSec overlords.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Altessa Post
Midnight special super sexy
80
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Posted - 2014.02.06 22:55:00 -
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It is refreshing to see how the monument is perceived. People quarrel about its significance and whether a virtual world deserves a footprint in our well-known one. It is a piece of art and obviously it is already doing its magic :-)
I am proud to be part of it. Thanks CCP
On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be. It is amazing that so many people chose to be stupid. |

Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2014.02.07 00:05:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Well, is your RL name Mike Azariah? Because this is what be etched on this monument and it has nothing to do with you being gone or not. Are you really proud to have your space name on a stone somewhere? Seriously?
Like your son will be there at some day with his children and they will go to the monument and your son will show your character's name to them and say:
"Look, this was your grandpa"
and your grandson will say:
"No it wasn't, grandpa's name was {insert your RL name here}".
And your son will explain to them that you were using name of Mike Azariah and you did something awesome under that name and that is why you ended up on monument.
And you grandson will ask:
"What did grandpa do?"
and you son will respond with pride in his voice and tears in his eyes:
"HE WAS PLAYING A VIDEO GAME".
/me laughs Good point. Makes me very glad I did not use a simple name like (xXinsert drug or pop culture reference hereXx) Instead, Mike IS my real first name and Azariah is the name of one of my grandfathers. I take pride in this name and in the things I have done in this game. So yes, if my as yet unborn grandkids went to iceland I hope they would find my name . . . and I hope that Eve is still around so they know what game it was. Whether you call me by my Birth names or the ones I chose for myself. It is still a memory of me. A footprint in the sands of time that might be a bit above the high water mark. I still like it and still think it is cool. m
That's wonderful for you Mike.
Personally, "Kirren D'marr" is not a name I chose for myself; it is a name I chose for a purely fictional character I created and who exists only in my mind and various virtual worlds I have been involved in. I have controlled her in three different online games, but the fact remains that she is not me. Honoring a fictional persona in the same manner as one would honor fallen soldiers is just silly, and more than a little pretentious.
Similarly, I am not "proud" of her name, nor of the things I have done as her in this or other games. Nothing about it has any sort of real impact worth being proud of; it's just a game after all. Nothing I've created or destroyed in this game actually exists. It's all just something I've done for pure entertainment, a way to spend a few hours in the evening; as the "casual player" CSM, you should understand that. What is the value of pride in something that isn't real?
I take pride in real accomplishments. I take pride in the things I do that positively affect the lives of others, whether those in my family, my community, or my country. I take pride in service I have given to people around the world. I cannot take pride in playing a computer game; to do so would be to attach an entirely unreasonable and unhealthy importance to something that is completely without form or substance. For all the talk and bravado of "EVE is real," the truth is that when all is said and done, it's just a game, and none of it matters.
If playing an online game shooting internet spaceships is the one aspect of your life that you feel is the most deserving of being memorialized in stone, then I feel very sorry for you.
If you think that anyone who doesn't play EVE is going to care or even notice a bunch of fake names on a frozen island in the North Atlantic, you're delusional. Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |

Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2014.02.07 00:41:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Kirren D'marr wrote:With regards to the cost, I've seen wholly unrealistic estimates in this thread at both extremes. I don't think there is any way that the price tag is in the millions of US dollars; maybe if it was a government project burdened by bureaucracy and waste, but not for one funded by a commercial entity. Likewise, estimates which only tally up a list of building materials are equally invalid, as they ignore several other important factors, such as the cost of the land, permits, and (what is usually the largest expense for something like this) the talent of the artist.
Just going off of what I've seen of similar sculptures, I would not be surprised if commissioning and building a work like this were to run anywhere between $200,000-$500,000. There's a lot of variation dependent largely upon the prominence of the artist (I'm not familiar enough with the Icelandic art scene to understand how locally renowned this guy may or may not be), but it should be a fairly accurate ballpark at least.
Now, it's not tens of millions in wasteful spending, but neither is it a paltry sum to be shelled out without a second thought. It's definitely substantial enough to make it a questionable investment for a company which has been laying off employees in recent history. You're out by ~an order of magnitude.
Maybe, but I doubt it. That would imply that the total cost was barely more than the base materials it will be made of. That doesn't leave much for land, labor, or design.
Malcanis wrote:CCP have every reason to expect significant revenue returns from this project. It's a marketing project at heart. A lovely gesture, a compliment to the community, but fundamentally, CCP expect to gain from doing this. As one would expect a commercial company to do.
If that were all this was, and if it was likely to be a productive marketing project, that would be fine. Frankly though, I don't see it. Of all those who used to play EVE, but are no longer subscribed, how many will actually be paying enough attention to hear about this? Of those, how many will care? Of those, some may care enough to sub up for a month in order to get their names on the list. Of those, there may be a few who, after coming back to the game, decide to stick around for a while, but for most, the reasons they left EVE will still remain and they will unsub just as quickly.
So at best, CCP gains a small burst of subscriptions for one month, without any substantial or sustainable increase to the playerbase beyond that. This monument does nothing to explain or expose the game to those unfamiliar with it (except maybe for a few Reykjavik natives, even then they won't understand what it's about). It does nothing for the retention of players. I find it highly doubtful that this investment is going to bring in enough to cover it's own costs, even if you're right about my estimate.
Do you know what good marketing for EVE looks like? Things like the Battle of B-R5RB. That generated tons of media exposure and news coverage, and drew interest from all sorts of people to check out this game world. And that didn't cost CCP anything in marketing funds; it was all the result of players' actions. The best marketing CCP can do is to continue to develop and improve the tools that players need to create events like this, and to improve the methods of player retention, and then just let the players create the right sort of publicity to bring people in.
A lump of stone in Iceland that few people will ever see does none of that. Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |
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