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Another Posting Alt Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2014.02.14 12:33:00 - [421] - Quote Interesting PLEX sink for those who want to get creative with names.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 487	Posted - 2014.02.14 21:04:00 - [422] - Quote BuckStrider wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Personally I think they should get rid of this idea and just donate the money to Seans widow. Do some good in this world, not just a make yourself feel good monument. Better idea. Donate the money and hire somebody to get Seans killers This isn't just about Vile Rat. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin you're welcome
Little Dragon Khamez Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition 1045	Posted - 2014.02.15 01:10:00 - [423] - Quote Can we have a searchable web page with a grid reference to show us where our names are on the monument. Not everyone can get to Iceland. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Rain6637 Team Evil 9793	Posted - 2014.02.15 01:56:00 - [424] - Quote for that reason but also... will the names be at eye level and lower? I really do see myself taking my grandmother to see Iceland now ...what. Rainfleet on Twitch
Dunmer Orion Stay Frosty. 0	Posted - 2014.02.15 22:58:00 - [425] - Quote This is awesome! I'm looking forward to seeing it in person at Fan Fest :). -DO
Lucy tzung Deep Strike Mining Divison 0	Posted - 2014.02.17 02:48:00 - [426] - Quote just the engraving must cost a bomb, wouldn't it be better spent on a game? a game like say erm...... EvE? I mean its a cool idea but isn't it a waste of money?
Frying Doom 3633	Posted - 2014.02.17 06:47:00 - [427] - Quote Darek Castigatus wrote: BuckStrider wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Personally I think they should get rid of this idea and just donate the money to Seans widow. Do some good in this world, not just a make yourself feel good monument. Better idea. Donate the money and hire somebody to get Seans killers This isn't just about Vile Rat. No its not but giving his widow money would do a lot more real world good than a bloody monument, in Iceland. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 490	Posted - 2014.02.17 16:19:00 - [428] - Quote Frying Doom wrote: Darek Castigatus wrote: BuckStrider wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Personally I think they should get rid of this idea and just donate the money to Seans widow. Do some good in this world, not just a make yourself feel good monument. Better idea. Donate the money and hire somebody to get Seans killers This isn't just about Vile Rat. No its not but giving his widow money would do a lot more real world good than a bloody monument, in Iceland. And what about every other eve player who'se passed away over the last ten and a bit years, you honestly want to deny them a chance to be remembered by their community for the sake of one man who already has more stuff dedicated to him than any of us will ever see. Dont get me wrong, Vile Rats name should be high and proud on that monument and you can bold his name and engrave it in gold leaf with arrows pointing at it if you must, just dont try and deny other peoples chance to be there while you do. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin you're welcome
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 48	Posted - 2014.02.17 17:20:00 - [429] - Quote Darek Castigatus wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Darek Castigatus wrote: BuckStrider wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Personally I think they should get rid of this idea and just donate the money to Seans widow. Do some good in this world, not just a make yourself feel good monument. Better idea. Donate the money and hire somebody to get Seans killers This isn't just about Vile Rat. No its not but giving his widow money would do a lot more real world good than a bloody monument, in Iceland. And what about every other eve player who'se passed away over the last ten and a bit years, you honestly want to deny them a chance to be remembered by their community for the sake of one man who already has more stuff dedicated to him than any of us will ever see. Dont get me wrong, Vile Rats name should be high and proud on that monument and you can bold his name and engrave it in gold leaf with arrows pointing at it if you must, just dont try and deny other peoples chance to be there while you do. I was thining tha same but didn't want to get flamed all over the place. Other players have also died, think of them too...
Sayen Everstar College of Applied Knowledge 0	Posted - 2014.02.17 18:43:00 - [430] - Quote How does one opt out from having their name plastered on this obscenity?
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 48	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:16:00 - [431] - Quote Sayen Everstar wrote: How does one opt out from having their name plastered on this obscenity? How many are going to ask this same question? Read the article. It says you can't opt out. NO exceptions... None, zero, nada, no body...
Sayen Everstar College of Applied Knowledge 0	Posted - 2014.02.17 20:22:00 - [432] - Quote BrundleMeth wrote: Sayen Everstar wrote: How does one opt out from having their name plastered on this obscenity? How many are going to ask this same question? Read the article. It says you can't opt out. NO exceptions... None, zero, nada, no body... be so good as to point me to where it says this, as I've read a number of pieces about this POS and nothing said anything about being unable to opt out!
Zedik Fury of the Fyrd 1	Posted - 2014.02.18 00:36:00 - [433] - Quote If you can't opt out, don't worry too much. The names are being etched onto metal... on a monument. Nature will erase the names before too long. Several things on this monument don't make any sense. It isn't particularly good looking. It is simple, small, and constructed of materials that won't last for ages. They are putting in a computer as a time capsule. Hard drives aren't stone tablets sealed from the elements, they have a finite useful lifespan. Nothing I've seen about this monument shows that they are constructing it monumentally. But maybe it is more meta than I am giving it credit for. MMO's are, at their core, a waste of time and money. So is the monument. Now that I've thought about it, it does seem fitting.
Dinger Task Force Delta-14 6	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:49:00 - [434] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: How many precious CCP resources are being thrown at this statue? How many coding-months dedicated to fixing / overhauling legacy code could have been purchased for the cost of this monument to the hubris of some people? Eve is a virtual world. What is the point of a statue that the vast vast majority of the player base will never see, and most will never even hear about? CCP would have been better off coding this monument into the game and placing it in Jita. It would have more value to more of the player base. How many old players will resub to get their name on the monument? How many will stick around for a while when they see how much has changed in EVE since they played? How many extra devs will CCP be able to afford with all this extra sub money? And most importantly of all, how will all this nerf hi-sec? I resub'd for this, I played long enough in my time and feel I had enough of an impact in my own way to have my name up there with the rest of the playerbase. That said I will not be staying for now, because as others have already stated the issues which made me quit in the first intance haven't changed, in spite of even your efforts Malcanis, which are appreciated. Hi-sec for me personally has never been the issue, aside from a few rare intances it's dull as dishwater these days, however Null sec is even worse and nerfing hi-sec is not going to change that in any way. Null is still controlled by broken sovereignty mechanics determined by massive HP structures and timers, which combined with the abilty for entire alliances to jump from one end of the map to the other and back again in an afternoon result more often than not in joyless dogpile TiDi lagfests like was recently seen in HED-GP. I personally have no interest in, and will not waste my time, money and effort on such "fun" content. I don't know how much CCP will ultimately make out of this monument deal, and to be honest I don't really care. The monument in of itself is a nice idea and is more than enough for me at this time, how many other game devs do you see out there who will take the time and effort to organise something like this for their playerbase. That said I will say if CCP does make any appreciable amount of money out of this thing that I hope they do bring in a few more devs and invest some serious time and effort into fixing the problems that while they may not be killing the game are certainly holding it back at this point. Bringing Dust514 to the PC and integrating it into the Eve client along with opening the damned door would be a nice set of secondary goals if there's anything left after that MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: Dammit. Now I'm gonna have to go to Iceland . Now, is there anything else to see in Iceland worth the trip so I don't have to admit to wifey that, secretly, it's all about the monument? The Blue Lagoon and the glaciers are well worth a trip if you want to venture beyond the city, I'm told the Golden Circle tour is good as well but haven't done it myself, most of the decent hotels should be able to advise good sights also. If you're looking to stay local the Perlan centre, the shopping districts and the downtown nightlife are all worth checking out, there's whale watching tours operating from the dockyard and not forgetting of course the Red Chilli restaurants (one near the Nordica the other in the city centre IIRC) which are great eateries if you're a carnivore.
Kane Ascendant Honoha 1	Posted - 2014.02.20 01:11:00 - [435] - Quote Hey I think all of the eve online pvp fanfest winners should be on the statue !!
Suffering Shadow Heaven's Harvesters LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 3	Posted - 2014.02.20 21:35:00 - [436] - Quote Quote: This list of active, paying players ..only the ones who are paying with real currency or also the ones who are paying with plexes?
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 492	Posted - 2014.02.21 02:15:00 - [437] - Quote 'On Saturday, 1 March 2014, the die for this snapshot of New Eden will be taken and over half a million names will be frozen in time, with the highest skilled character from every active EVE Online account on this day joined together as part of Worlds Within a World.' is what CCP Falcon said in his bit on this so I don't see why PLEXed accounts would be excluded. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin you're welcome
Thylbana Nyx Caldari Tax-Dodgers 0	Posted - 2014.02.21 08:58:00 - [438] - Quote Quote: 'On Saturday, 1 March 2014, the die for this snapshot of New Eden will be taken and over half a million names will be frozen in time, with the highest skilled character from every active EVE Online account on this day joined together as part of Worlds Within a World.' DOH! I have my first character I ever made, but I don't care for the name I used (sounded cool in my head. Didn't work in reality). I've been taking what I consider my "main character" and trying to catch up, but I'm currently 8 mil skill points away from overtaking my original character. So now my old character will be etched in this monument or I delete and lose 8 million skill points (with associated benefits). CCP! WHY CAN YOU NOT HAVE A SIMPLE RENAME FUNCTION!!!
Einar Matveinen nXo Circle-Of-Two 21	Posted - 2014.02.22 13:06:00 - [439] - Quote How could we know what character in our accounts is the main character?. After eight years i don't know exactly what character in my account is defined in the database as main, for me is this character but i don't want surprises when the monument is released...
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 494	Posted - 2014.02.22 13:15:00 - [440] - Quote Einar Matveinen wrote: How could we know what character in our accounts is the main character?. After eight years i don't know exactly what character in my account is defined in the database as main, for me is this character but i don't want surprises when the monument is released... According to CCP falcon its the character with the highest SP on the account Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin you're welcome
Einar Matveinen nXo Circle-Of-Two 21	Posted - 2014.02.22 13:42:00 - [441] - Quote Darek Castigatus wrote: According to CCP falcon its the character with the highest SP on the account Ok, thanks! :)
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service 98	Posted - 2014.02.25 05:34:00 - [442] - Quote Thylbana Nyx wrote: Quote: 'On Saturday, 1 March 2014, the die for this snapshot of New Eden will be taken and over half a million names will be frozen in time, with the highest skilled character from every active EVE Online account on this day joined together as part of Worlds Within a World.' DOH! I have my first character I ever made, but I don't care for the name I used (sounded cool in my head. Didn't work in reality). I've been taking what I consider my "main character" and trying to catch up, but I'm currently 8 mil skill points away from overtaking my original character. So now my old character will be etched in this monument or I delete and lose 8 million skill points (with associated benefits). CCP! WHY CAN YOU NOT HAVE A SIMPLE RENAME FUNCTION!!! Couldn't we say use the character from our Forum?! Put a note on the game launcher, make sure the character you want on the monument is your avatar for the Forums before March 1st, 2014. That way we can make sure we have the character we want. I am probably a rare case, but I know I can't be the ONLY case. Just a thought. If it's so important to you, open up a new account and transfer your wanted char over.. this way you'll be on the monument twice and CCP got 1 more active account during the month ;-) As for me as you can see me, I re-subbed for this for 1 month, can't miss being on a statue somewhere. Tres won't be on the monument though, as it's just my forum ***** :p @CCP Thanks and do something useful with the money.
Telemicus Thrace Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 25	Posted - 2014.02.25 11:24:00 - [443] - Quote I re-subbed for this. I don't play games much these days but I'll jump in my old Wolf and go see what's new. Maybe I'll stay, maybe I won't, we'll see. For all the nostalgia, for all the years I played this EVEry EVEning , for the friends I made (and those I still still hang out with)... I had to get in on this. So many memories of the Unity wars, Interdiction, the fall of ISS, the first Nyx. As soon as the client downloads I'm going to have to see how Ushra'Khan are doing. When my kids are old enough I'll be taking them to visit their ancestral homeland in Europe (we live in Australia now). When I am there I plan to visit Iceland and see some of the sights written about in the sagas. It would be awesome to find this monument still there, make it durable.
Lucy tzung Deep Strike Mining Divison 1	Posted - 2014.02.25 15:24:00 - [444] - Quote would be cool to see an in game replica of the monument on a planet though.
Tomash Kovahlsky Polish Task Forces C0VEN 0	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:32:00 - [445] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Malcanis wrote: Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: How many precious CCP resources are being thrown at this statue? How many coding-months dedicated to fixing / overhauling legacy code could have been purchased for the cost of this monument to the hubris of some people? Eve is a virtual world. What is the point of a statue that the vast vast majority of the player base will never see, and most will never even hear about? CCP would have been better off coding this monument into the game and placing it in Jita. It would have more value to more of the player base. How many old players will resub to get their name on the monument? How many will stick around for a while when they see how much has changed in EVE since they played? How many extra devs will CCP be able to afford with all this extra sub money? And most importantly of all, how will all this nerf hi-sec? Really, you think a ton of players will burn 12 or 15 dollars/ pounds to re-sub to get their player name engraved on a rock? I do. I just resubscribed - on 3 accounts - after a 1.5yr break.
Wolvson Griff-Co 2	Posted - 2014.02.26 11:54:00 - [446] - Quote A magnificent idea, CCP! I am truly astonished! Actually, when I look at the monument, I see a gamer in front of the screen. Not just EVE player, but ANY player. Wouldn't it be a first monument built to players? And, in a way, another step towards bigger recognition for player community? One way, or the other, I like the idea very much.
Skeecher Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:50:00 - [447] - Quote It's a clever move by CCP, and I can see other online games copying the idea when they see the publicity it will get, and it's not so bad looking. It's certainly more acceptable than what Games Workshop have outside their HQ The only problem it could have is the "monument" status of it. After all, it's going to have toon names on there of every active player. These aren't the names of real people, but ficticious character names. A few others in this thread have touched on the relation it will seem to have to the countless war memorials around the world. It may be seen as being disrespectful to these war memorials to have what some in the press might describe as a "parody" of them built. Now, they say "all publicity is good publicity" but not if this monument is taken the wrong way. It may even result in it being defaced at some point in the future due to the bad taste that some will see in it's existance. You have to take into consideration the raw passion that people have for their war memorials. They're an almost taboo subject. Try to remember (for those in the UK) what the press thought of Brian Ferry's son when he was photographed swinging off the war memorial in London. So CCP needs to tread very carefully with this idea. It may well be a marketing ploy to get players to sub the game so that they can get their names on it, but there could well be players who, because of reasons mentioned above, would rather not have their character names on it. So is there an opt-out for them? Me? I see for what it is, just a bit of fun, but I'm just saying that others might not.
xxMACKxx Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo 0	Posted - 2014.02.26 19:40:00 - [448] - Quote Will people who are active using PLEX be qualified for this?
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 2642	Posted - 2014.02.26 22:10:00 - [449] - Quote I just bought myself a inscription on this monument for the ridiculously low price of one PLEX. You really should have added the option to buy inscription for non-main characters via the AURUM shop. After all, it's a vanity shop and there's no greater vanity than building a monument to yourself. Why not step it up? 100 PLEXes to get your bust printed out in 3D, covered in electrolytic paint, silver plated and rhodinized. Around half life sized. And 1000 PLEXes for a ful life sized statue, printed out and hand painted to be placed outside at a court leading to the monument. Anyway, it's better than pizza, I guess. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Janden Rynd Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 11	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:19:00 - [450] - Quote Well, we're just over a day away from having the list of names for this thing frozen. It makes me wonder exactly how thoroughly that list will be vetted. CCP have said that innappropriate names will not be included, but according to what criteria? Will senseless strings of repeated letters be included as a "name?" How many cleverly and not so cleverly disguised profanities and obscenities will make their way onto this thing simply because no one paid enough attention to catch them? How many languages will the list be checked against? How many of those languages will be checked by native speakers who can catch the nuance of hidden meanings in these names? CCP already has a naming policy in place, but a quick look at local in just about any system will tell you that they don't take the time to enforce it; why should we expect them to do any better with this? I have a feeling that when this monument is unveiled, there are going to be a lot of innapropriate names, and even more just plain ridiculous or meaningless stuff, that make their way onto its surface. Oh well; at least it will be in a place where hardly anyone will ever see it or care! Abrazzar wrote: Anyway, it's better than pizza, I guess. Blasphemy!

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